A question about fried chicken

[Bryan Simmons]

For those of you who fry chicken fairly frequently, how long do you leave the chicken pieces out of the fridge before you fry them? I find an hour or a little more is sufficient to take enough chill off.

--Bryan

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:37:36 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> For those of you who fry chicken fairly frequently, how long do you leave the chicken pieces out of the fridge before you fry them? I find an hour or a little more is sufficient to take enough chill off.
>
> --Bryan
>

The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl.

[Bryan Simmons]

So you fry it at fridge temp? I fry fish cold, because otherwise to get the corn meal crunchy, you'd have to overcook the fish, but bone-in chicken is better if you let it warm up a little before frying it.

--Bryan

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

it kind of depends really. How much chicken are you frying? If it is
just some nuggets then you can fry them while they are still frozen.
If you are frying an entire breast then that could be iffy depending
on the thickness of the breast. If you are frying bone in pieces of a
chicken then it is usually recommended that it be a room temperature
before you fry.

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl. But can you
cite your source of letting your chicken sit out for an hour and take the
chill off her bones?

[Bryan Simmons]

2 each breast, thigh, wing, leg, plus the back. I cooked the neck already. I generally leave it out for about an hour before cooking.

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

On 8/5/2020 4:42 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:52:17 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>
>>> The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl.
>>
>> So you fry it at fridge temp? I fry fish cold, because otherwise to get the corn meal crunchy, you'd have to overcook the fish,

What's that about fried fish?! You'd have to overcook the fish to get
the cornmeal crunchy if the fish wasn't refrigerator cold? Boy, you
don't know about frying fish. Turn down the heat.

> but bone-in chicken is better if you let it warm up a little before frying it.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
> The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl. But can you
> cite your source of letting your chicken sit out for an hour and take the
> chill off her bones?
>

It might be less spatter but I sure wouldn't let chicken get to room
temp before I did anything with it.

It's fine to fry chicken pieces right out of the fridge. Granted, I
haven't fried chicken since around 1982. I stopped at the grocery store
on my way home from work. Bought a package of raw cut-up chicken. You
can be sure it had been refrigerated! I did let the packaged chicken
sit on the counter while I prepared the seasoned flour coating and
heated the oil (probably Crisco). I don't recall if I did an egg wash.
I was 22; who remembers? IIRC I was using an electric skillet my
mother had given me to fry the chicken.

One could reasonably say it was still fairly cold when I dredged it and
set it aside for a minute on waxed paper so the coating could set. (I do
remember knowing that much, even at that young age). Then the chicken
went into the hot grease. The key is to slip the coated chicken pieces
it into the pan one at a time. Don't drop them in. That way it won't
spatter. Don't overcrowd the pan. People often make the mistake of
having the temperature of the fat too high. Nice crispy coating, raw
chicken. Ooops. Don't try to turn it too soon. Leave it alone! Fried
chicken takes a good 30 minutes. And you should arrange the pieces so
they can all cook evenly.

One must have patience. Good home fried chicken cannot be rushed.

The reason I stopped making fried chicken is because I had just come
home from work, stopped at the store, started dinner. I had not yet
changed out of my work clothes. I was wearing a silk blouse. About 15
minutes in, the chicken skin *popped* and I got spattered with hot
grease. It melded my silk shirt to my chest. I've never fried chicken
since. But I *do* know how to cook it! :)

Jill

[John Kuthe]

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:37:36 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> For those of you who fry chicken fairly frequently, how long do you leave the chicken pieces out of the fridge before you fry them? I find an hour or a little more is sufficient to take enough chill off.
>
> --Bryan

Bryan is the ONLY ONE whoever used to Wear FRIED CHICKEN, in case he wanted a snack! Safety pinned to whatever on his clothes! ;-)

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

We have aprons these days that work very well.

[Hank Rogers]

Remembering the good ol days? You must miss him terribly.

[Bryan Simmons]

I did that for humor. It was more performance art than an actual desire to have a snack handy.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 4:54:08 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/5/2020 4:42 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:52:17 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl.
> >>
> >> So you fry it at fridge temp? I fry fish cold, because otherwise to get the corn meal crunchy, you'd have to overcook the fish,
>
> What's that about fried fish?! You'd have to overcook the fish to get
> the cornmeal crunchy if the fish wasn't refrigerator cold? Boy, you
> don't know about frying fish. Turn down the heat.
>
> > but bone-in chicken is better if you let it warm up a little before frying it.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >>
> > The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl. But can you
> > cite your source of letting your chicken sit out for an hour and take the
> > chill off her bones?

"It’s important to keep meat and poultry chilled before cooking for safety reasons. But it is acceptable to let your chicken sit at room temperature for up to 30 minutes before frying. This step also ensures that your chicken cooks evenly and has a superior texture."
--source: https://blog.chefworks.com/uniforms/9-common-mistakes-to-avoid-for-cooking-fried-chicken/

For chicken that has been brined, I give it an hour.

> >
> It might be less spatter but I sure wouldn't let chicken get to room
> temp before I did anything with it.
>
> It's fine to fry chicken pieces right out of the fridge. Granted, I
> haven't fried chicken since around 1982. I stopped at the grocery store
> on my way home from work. Bought a package of raw cut-up chicken. You
> can be sure it had been refrigerated! I did let the packaged chicken
> sit on the counter while I prepared the seasoned flour coating and
> heated the oil (probably Crisco). I don't recall if I did an egg wash.
> I was 22; who remembers? IIRC I was using an electric skillet my
> mother had given me to fry the chicken.
>
> One could reasonably say it was still fairly cold when I dredged it and
> set it aside for a minute on waxed paper so the coating could set. (I do
> remember knowing that much, even at that young age).

I use a plastic grocery bag, rather than waxed paper, then turn the bag inside out to use as a garbage bag. Our kitchen garbage can is a little ~1.5 gallon one that fits grocery bags, as we compost and recycle.

> Then the chicken
> went into the hot grease. The key is to slip the coated chicken pieces
> it into the pan one at a time. Don't drop them in. That way it won't
> spatter. Don't overcrowd the pan. People often make the mistake of
> having the temperature of the fat too high. Nice crispy coating, raw
> chicken. Ooops. Don't try to turn it too soon. Leave it alone! Fried
> chicken takes a good 30 minutes. And you should arrange the pieces so
> they can all cook evenly.

I don't need to turn the chicken because it's fried in https://www.pinterest.com/pin/825706912910808500/ in peanut oil. I heat the oil to 375, put in the chicken, then reduce the heat to 350.

>
> One must have patience. Good home fried chicken cannot be rushed.
>
> The reason I stopped making fried chicken is because I had just come
> home from work, stopped at the store, started dinner. I had not yet
> changed out of my work clothes. I was wearing a silk blouse. About 15
> minutes in, the chicken skin *popped* and I got spattered with hot
> grease. It melded my silk shirt to my chest. I've never fried chicken
> since. But I *do* know how to cook it! :)

Jill, I fry stuff all the time. The big fryer is for everything besides fish, and I have a smaller one exclusively for fish. I almost certainly deep fry more often than anyone else who posts here. I tell folks that the best reason not to fry as much as I do is, "...because you don't want your kitchen to look like mine." If you don't want silk shirts melded to your chest, and that's understandable, wear a cotton shirt, or no shirt. While I'm pretty nudist, I typically have pants on when I fry, but often don't have a shirt on, and I almost never get hit with oil splatter.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Thomas]

Cooked til done. Done is done.
I will do frozen burgers on the grill,
My point is cook it till you like it. No blood in poultry.
More on blood ...

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 9:37:36 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> For those of you who fry chicken fairly frequently, how long do you leave the chicken pieces out of the fridge before you fry them? I find an hour or a little more is sufficient to take enough chill off.
>
> --Bryan

I don't let the chicken sit around but there's probably no reason not to let the chicken warm up a bit. My brain is calibrated to cook refrigerated chicken thighs perfectly. I keep the seasonings to a minimum because I want a classic, simple fried chicken.

OTOH, sous vide is probably the easiest way to cook perfect chicken. It also affords a way to cook the chicken in a tasty marinade. Once the chicken is fried, it is coated and fried at high temperature till brown i.e., you don't have to worry about whether the chicken is done or not and can concentrate on getting a crispy coating/skin.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/wfeKV0PpQDuX-227pLu0MQ.qbCc64dbfYihs41dTQbmDp

[Gary]

Bryan Simmons wrote:

>
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > Bryan is the ONLY ONE whoever used to Wear FRIED CHICKEN, in case he wanted
> > a snack! Safety pinned to whatever on his clothes! ;-)
>
> I did that for humor. It was more performance art than an actual desire to have a snack handy.

There's an old movie, "Down Periscope" (1996) about a submarine
crew of misfits. In one scene they were playing pirates and the
cook pinned a whole raw chicken to his shoulder to simulate
a pirate with a parrot perched on his shoulder. heh eheh

It's an amusing movie.

[Gary]

I'll warm up a steak to room temp before cooking but I've never
bothered to do that with chicken. Chicken takes longer to cook
and it doesn't really matter, imo.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Oh, please don't refer to that as an "old movie". It makes me feel ancient.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Even though we still feel and think young, we are ancient ppls
now.
Just ask any teenager.
Especially once you turn 60, it's all downhill from here. Just be
thankful that you are still a few years younger than me.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 9:38:33 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Even though we still feel and think young, we are ancient ppls
> now.
> Just ask any teenager.
> Especially once you turn 60, it's all downhill from here. Just be
> thankful that you are still a few years younger than me.
>

In the early '70s, my oldest brother was 40 years old and bought a
chartreuse Dodge Super Bee. My 20-year-old cousin wanted to what an
old wanted with such a snazzy car?

https://i.postimg.cc/xCDTSWtY/Super-Bee.jpg

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 13:51:10 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons

<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 3:20:17 PM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >For those of you who fry chicken fairly frequently, how long do you leave the chicken pieces out of the fridge before you fry them? I find an hour or a little more is sufficient to take enough chill off.
>> >
>> >--Bryan
>>
>> it kind of depends really. How much chicken are you frying? If it is
>> just some nuggets then you can fry them while they are still frozen.
>> If you are frying an entire breast then that could be iffy depending
>> on the thickness of the breast. If you are frying bone in pieces of a
>> chicken then it is usually recommended that it be a room temperature
>> before you fry.
>>
>2 each breast, thigh, wing, leg, plus the back. I cooked the neck already. I generally leave it out for about an hour before cooking.
>
>--Bryan

The thing about bone in is it can take the bones several hours to
defrost and if not defrosted then the center of you chicken will not
cook.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:45:34 PM UTC-5, Crusty...@christianity.pl wrote:
>
> The thing about bone in is it can take the bones several hours to
> defrost and if not defrosted then the center of you chicken will not
> cook.
>

You're having a lot of reading comprehension problems today, eh Crusty?
Frozen chicken wasn't mentioned. Bruce originally asked if anyone let
their refrigerated chicken come to room temperature or near room
temperature before frying.

You might want to use your finger to follow along with the posts before
tapping out a reply.

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> In the early '70s, my oldest brother was 40 years old and bought a
> chartreuse Dodge Super Bee. My 20-year-old cousin wanted to what an
> old wanted with such a snazzy car?
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/xCDTSWtY/Super-Bee.jpg

Nice looking car and age 40 has never been old age except
in odd minds.

When I turned 40 in 1993, I bought a pair of RollerBlades and
my next door neighbor asked, "Aren't you a little old for
those?" Idiot.

I was enjoying life while he (age 35 with children) had
already settled down into do nothing old age.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 07:15:51 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>>
>> In the early '70s, my oldest brother was 40 years old and bought a
>> chartreuse Dodge Super Bee. My 20-year-old cousin wanted to what an
>> old wanted with such a snazzy car?
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/xCDTSWtY/Super-Bee.jpg
>
>Nice looking car and age 40 has never been old age except
>in odd minds.

When I was 16 or so two friends of mine pledged they would kill each
other when they'd reach 40. As far as I know, they're both still alive
and approaching 60.

[Gary]

I remember when I was 17, I couldn't imagine living to
age 25. My parents were in their mid-30s then and seemed
so OLD.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I wondered if I would make it to the next century. After all, 2020 was
a whopping 35 years away and I'd really be old by then.

[Gary]

The changing of the guards. Now all us young people have turned
into
the old people. We are the ancient ones now. Time to run for
congress.

[jmcquown]

On 8/8/2020 7:28 AM, Gary wrote:

My mother was 32 when she had me. When I was 17 she was nearly 50.
Practically eligible for an AARP subscription. By their definition, she
was old.

Jill

[Bryan Simmons]

55 is the new 21. Folks used to think, "I don't want to age a day over 21 (the legal drinking age)," but at 55 folks become eligible for the early bird senior buffet special at Golden Corral.

In truth, I've only eaten at Golden Corral twice in the last 30 years, and both times were because my young son requested it for a birthday, but man, you let me loose in there and I go for one thing, and one thing only, fried chicken.

That reminds me of back in the 1990s, when I worked at the church I'd get off at 2:30, and sometimes I'd do the Long John Silver's all-you-can-eat fish Sundays. Well, then they stopped having the AYCE, so I stopped going there. About a year later, I stopped in because they had some good deal on a poster on their window, and a woman who worked there pointed at me and told a coworker, "That's him. That's the guy who ate 11 pieces of fish."

I was like, sure that's a lot, but I couldn't be the only one. She replied that no one had ever eaten that many pieces of fish, and I said, "I ate 12 at the one down on Hampton one time." It was true.

--Bryan

[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:
>
> My mother was 32 when she had me. When I was 17 she was nearly 50.
> Practically eligible for an AARP subscription. By their definition, she
> was old.

AARP lowered their age to 50 many years ago. Guess they needed
more suscribers.

I joined up at age 50 but they offered nothing that helped me
so I quit.

Then I joined again at age 64. Still nothing for me so I quit
again.

I get constant email and snail mail offers from them to this day.

[Gary]

Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> That reminds me of back in the 1990s, when I worked at the church I'd get off at 2:30, and sometimes I'd do the Long John Silver's all-you-can-eat fish Sundays. Well, then they stopped having the AYCE, so I stopped going there. About a year later, I stopped in because they had some good deal on a poster on their window, and a woman who worked there pointed at me and told a coworker, "That's him. That's the guy who ate 11 pieces of fish."
>
> I was like, sure that's a lot, but I couldn't be the only one. She replied that no one had ever eaten that many pieces of fish, and I said, "I ate 12 at the one down on Hampton one time." It was true.

I loved Long John Silver's when they had one nearby. I never did
try the
fish planks. I always bought the chicken planks. Damn good eats.

Also Bryan... thanks for the heads up about the Target mini fans.
Looks like just what I want and the price is right!

[jmcquown]

I asked friends in my neighborhood about AARP. What benefit would I get
from joining? The answer was "nothing" unless you want travel
discounts, hotel deals, things like that. Or a Medicare supplement
plan. I'm still nowhere near Medicare age and I don't travel. So, the
AARP snail mail goes into the shredder.

I'm kind of surprised you signed up for AARP twice. Also surprised
you're surprised you're being bombarded with emails and snail mail. You
invited them! Good luck getting off their list.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:15:16 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> When I turned 40 in 1993, I bought a pair of RollerBlades and
> my next door neighbor asked, "Aren't you a little old for
> those?" Idiot.
>
> I was enjoying life while he (age 35 with children) had
> already settled down into do nothing old age.
>

I love roller skating and a few years ago I toyed with the idea of getting
a pair of rollerblades. My brother pointed out we don't heal as we did
when we were kids. I let the idea die a quiet death.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:27:34 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> I remember when I was 17, I couldn't imagine living to
> age 25. My parents were in their mid-30s then and seemed
> so OLD.
>

When I was 17 my mom was 55 and my dad was 65.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:39:05 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I asked friends in my neighborhood about AARP. What benefit would I get
> from joining? The answer was "nothing" unless you want travel
> discounts, hotel deals, things like that. Or a Medicare supplement
> plan. I'm still nowhere near Medicare age and I don't travel. So, the
> AARP snail mail goes into the shredder.
>
> I'm kind of surprised you signed up for AARP twice. Also surprised
> you're surprised you're being bombarded with emails and snail mail. You
> invited them! Good luck getting off their list.
>
> Jill
>

I joined at age 50 and like Gary, just got a bunch of junk mail all the time.
Stopped the junk mail and quit them. But did rejoin for a supplemental
Medicare plan but checked the boxes I wanted no junk mail, magazine, or
e-mails from them. So far, so good.

[Dave Smith]

So true. The older we get the longer it takes to recover. I chipped my
knee cap when I was 13 and was in a cast for a couple weeks. I broke my
collar bone at 51 and was off work for two months. A few years later I
broke some ribs and it took even longer to heal.

I had a serious talk with my buddy about fitness. We were bother pretty
active before the pandemic, playing pickleball three times a week. We
both gained weighed an slipped out of shape with the lockdown. I have
been getting back into things lately, bicycling and playing outdoor
pickleball. He has not. He wants to get back at things and I had to
point out to him that it has been 5 months for him, so he is going to
have to take it east. I am having enough trouble getting back into shape
but I am worried that if he rushes back into things to hard and too fast
he is going to get hurt, and then he is going to learn the hard way
about the lower healing.

[Dave Smith]

My wife's father was 48 when she was born.

I used to work with a guy who split up with his wife when his daughters
were in their teens. He hooked up with a much younger woman and started
over. One day I had to go back to the shop with one of my new co-workers
and we were talking to Joe and he told us that his wife was going to
have a baby in a few weeks. My new co-worker asked him how old he was...
55. New co-worker looked at him and asked "Are you fucking nuts?"

The kid would be going in to Grade 5 when Joe hit 65, and into high
school when he is 72. Then it would hit university when Joe was 75,
graduating at 78 or so. Give him or her a couple years to settle down
and start raising a family and Joe would be in his 80s.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I used to work with a guy who split up with his wife when his daughters
> were in their teens. He hooked up with a much younger woman and started
> over. One day I had to go back to the shop with one of my new co-workers
> and we were talking to Joe and he told us that his wife was going to
> have a baby in a few weeks. My new co-worker asked him how old he was...
> 55. New co-worker looked at him and asked "Are you fucking nuts?"
>
> The kid would be going in to Grade 5 when Joe hit 65, and into high
> school when he is 72. Then it would hit university when Joe was 75,
> graduating at 78 or so. Give him or her a couple years to settle down
> and start raising a family and Joe would be in his 80s.
>

My brother is 73 and has two little boys age 9 and 11.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

The premise of my novel is that an older, recent widower (exact age not specified) wins the lottery, and offers a young woman a lot of money to be his paid GF. Everyone gets more than they bargained for.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[Bruce]

Some people actually are older than their age. Look at McBiddy. She's
as old as the mountains.

[Hank Rogers]

Analysis by Druce Van de Buttsniff , Phd and world's foremost biddy
expert.

[Sheldon Martin]

When I was 18 I fathered twin girls. Turned out she was 15 and
portrayed herself as 18 and aborted them while I was at sea... when I
returned is when her father brought me to the sleezey MD who did the
deed and I got a lecture. I never forgave her. Her mom was a saint
and divorced the evil bastard. Marilyn had four older sisters who all
had children while unmarried and underage. Turkish woman matured
early. Turkish men were A-holes.

[Bryan Simmons]

Tell you what car I'd like to drive is a https://www.idealclassiccars.net/vehicles/371/2003-ford-thunderbird Doesn't matter if you're 16 or 69, that's just a good looking car. What I do drive is a cheap, low end Chevy, but my retirement car, which is now my son's car, is a https://www.autoevolution.com/reviews/hyundai-sonata-hybrid-review-2015.html It gets 40 city / 44 highway, and once my son can afford a more hot shit car, I'll just take over the payments, as my name is on the title too.

Six years and we're getting the heck out of St. Louis and "Going Mobile" for a few years, wandering, following the nice weather, not driving over a few hours a day for the most part.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[Bruce]

On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:09:24 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

Turks vote for a fascist dictator. A Trump with balls, so to speak.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 1:11:25 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> my retirement car, which is now my son's car, is a https://www.autoevolution.com/reviews/hyundai-sonata-hybrid-review-2015.html
>

Here's my retirement car.

https://i.postimg.cc/T2LPgWJs/Lincoln.jpg

[Bryan Simmons]

You had intercourse with a girl whom you weren't married to, right before leaving for the Navy, knowing full well that if she ended up pregnant, you'd be long gone. WTF did you think would happen? You didn't "father" twin girls. You got a woman knocked up and then left for the Navy. Sounds like there was more than one A-hole in her life.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[Bruce]

Touché.

[Hank Rogers]

Yoose call him an asshole Popeye? He could have had yoose low down
sorry ass put in jail for statutory rape.

Nope, *yoose* the asshole Popeye.

[Hank Rogers]

But the dutch still sniff their asses.

[Hank Rogers]

Pay no attention to the gay sailor behind the curtain.

[Bryan Simmons]

I was very careful not to impregnate my underage girlfriends, and if I had, I'd have agreed to marry either one of them in a heartbeat.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[Ophelia]

Hi Bryan, Just to let you know that D. (my husband) has just downloaded you
book and said to say thank you:))


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[dsi1]

Yoose young peoples think that's a classic T-Bird. Us old fart car nuts desire the 55 to 57 birds. OTOH, I think the 64 to 66 years were the best. The design was futuristic inside and out and it didn't even have any tailfins!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHvIv01QNhA

[Hank Rogers]

Ophelia wrote:
> Hi Bryan, Just to let you know that D. (my husband) has just
> downloaded you book and said to say thank you:))
>
>

So, Himself liked the book!

[Hank Rogers]

On the other hand, in the future, my guess is we may not have
T-birds on the rocks.

[Bryan Simmons]

I truly hope he enjoys it.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 12:32:48 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons

Me too. But if you're often wearing beer goggles and having one night
stands ...

[Bryan Simmons]

Those were nice too. By the 1970s, Thunderbirds were not pretty cars. I'm not a car enthusiast, but I do like pretty things.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 3:38:08 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> By the 1970s, Thunderbirds were not pretty cars. I'm not a car enthusiast, but I do like pretty things.
>

Oh, I don't know. I had a '78 midnight blue T-top Thunderbird with
saddle interior and it was a real looker.

[Bryan Simmons]

They looked like Lincolns.

--Bryan

[dsi1]

Don't get me wrong - those 02 Thunderbirds were pretty cool looking cars. They are somewhat rare and when I pass one in a parking lot, I will stop to admire their design.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Same company.

[Hank Rogers]

Druce you should stop telling about your penis adventures.

[Bryan Simmons]

I know that much about cars. I'm just not *into* cars like a lot of guys are. You know, I've never really thought about this before, but I've never owned a vehicle made by Ford. GM, Chrysler, AMC, Fiat, Toyota, Kia, Volkswagen, but no Ford.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

A hundred years ago I could have told you every make and model but now all
I'm interested in is my present car. But I've never owned an AMC, Fiat,
Toyota, Kia, or Volkswagen.

[Dave Smith]

I have had Ford, GM AMC, Honda, Datsun, Toyota and Mazda. I worked in a
fleet operation and my experience with Dodge trucks is a major factor in
never having a personal Chrysler product. The best vehicles in our
fleet were Fords. That being said, after my last Ford purchase I will
never get another. The dealership screwed me. I went to see the
franchisee and got nowhere with him so I told him to have a good look at
me going our because he would never see me coming back in. That was not
entirely true because I did go back one more time. I told him there was
something I wanted to show him about my new vehicle. It was a Mazda ;-)

[cshenk]

Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > My mother was 32 when she had me. When I was 17 she was nearly 50.
> > Practically eligible for an AARP subscription. By their definition,
> > she was old.
>
> AARP lowered their age to 50 many years ago. Guess they needed
> more suscribers.
>
> I joined up at age 50 but they offered nothing that helped me
> so I quit.
>
> Then I joined again at age 64. Still nothing for me so I quit
> again.
>
> I get constant email and snail mail offers from them to this day.

They are a pain. If retired military, they offer nothing we don't
already have.

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:12:09 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 7:45:34 PM UTC-5, Crusty...@christianity.pl wrote:
>>
>> The thing about bone in is it can take the bones several hours to
>> defrost and if not defrosted then the center of you chicken will not
>> cook.
>>
>You're having a lot of reading comprehension problems today, eh Crusty?
>Frozen chicken wasn't mentioned. Bruce originally asked if anyone let
>their refrigerated chicken come to room temperature or near room
>temperature before frying.
>
>You might want to use your finger to follow along with the posts before
>tapping out a reply.


For everyone reading this except our resident usenet cop then I am
sure you can simply reason that whether frozen or cooled to whatever
temp allowing the bone part to become a room temperature can be
important. That being said this next part is directed to our usenet
cop. Everyone sets their fridge to a different temperature... I have
seen fridges where water can freeze if left in there for awhile. So
basically what I am trying to say to you is GET A FUCKING LIFE!

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

[jmcquown]

On 8/8/2020 1:10 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:15:16 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> When I turned 40 in 1993, I bought a pair of RollerBlades and
>> my next door neighbor asked, "Aren't you a little old for
>> those?" Idiot.
>>
>> I was enjoying life while he (age 35 with children) had
>> already settled down into do nothing old age.
>>
> I love roller skating and a few years ago I toyed with the idea of getting
> a pair of rollerblades. My brother pointed out we don't heal as we did
> when we were kids. I let the idea die a quiet death.
>
I've seen a number of people in my neighborhood rollerskating. Not on
single wheels like roller blades, but yes, skating. I used to love to
skate. Hmmmm... :)

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 8/8/2020 3:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> Hi Bryan, Just to let you know that D. (my husband) has just downloaded
> you book and said to say thank you:))
>
>

Oh no, not Winter's whatever? I hope your husband enjoys books about
the deflowering of a pubescent young woman disguised in poorly written
prose.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Being retired military, why did you invite AARP to send you their
sales rubbish? Seems rather foolish for a military person.

[Hank Rogers]

I'm gonna go check on quora, where the really smart folks are.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 7:02:52 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> The best vehicles in our
> fleet were Fords. That being said, after my last Ford purchase I will
> never get another. The dealership screwed me.
>

That's not Ford's fault; you dealt with either a thief or a liar. We've
got a HUGE Ford dealership on my side of town and they screwed my brother
as well. He also told them they'd never see him or his business again but
that did not stop him from driving Ford trucks.

The only time I visited them was once for a recall on my former Explorer
which cost me nothing. The second time was to get a new key made for that
same vehicle. It was free.

[Ophelia]

"Bryan Simmons" wrote in message
news:4994c7d7-26f7-4d78...@googlegroups.com...

On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-08-08 1:13 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:27:34 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> I remember when I was 17, I couldn't imagine living to
> >> age 25. My parents were in their mid-30s then and seemed
> >> so OLD.
> >>
> > When I was 17 my mom was 55 and my dad was 65.
> >

> My wife's father was 48 when she was born.
>
> I used to work with a guy who split up with his wife when his daughters
> were in their teens. He hooked up with a much younger woman and started
> over. One day I had to go back to the shop with one of my new co-workers
> and we were talking to Joe and he told us that his wife was going to
> have a baby in a few weeks. My new co-worker asked him how old he was...
> 55. New co-worker looked at him and asked "Are you fucking nuts?"
>
> The kid would be going in to Grade 5 when Joe hit 65, and into high
> school when he is 72. Then it would hit university when Joe was 75,
> graduating at 78 or so. Give him or her a couple years to settle down
> and start raising a family and Joe would be in his 80s.

The premise of my novel is that an older, recent widower (exact age not
specified) wins the lottery, and offers a young woman a lot of money to be
his paid GF. Everyone gets more than they bargained for.

--Bryan
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

===

My husband, who is a writer read your first chapter and commented "He is
a very good writer, funny, but not my style of storyline:)

Goosh:) You are good:))) Congratulations:)))

[Cindy Hamilton]

Apart from hand-me-downs, my first car was a used Ford Galaxy.
Since then it's been Honda, Isuzu, or Toyota.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 6:15:16 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> > When I turned 40 in 1993, I bought a pair of RollerBlades and
> > my next door neighbor asked, "Aren't you a little old for
> > those?" Idiot.
> >
> > I was enjoying life while he (age 35 with children) had
> > already settled down into do nothing old age.
> >
> I love roller skating and a few years ago I toyed with the idea of getting
> a pair of rollerblades. My brother pointed out we don't heal as we did
> when we were kids. I let the idea die a quiet death.

If you enjoy it, don't let that stop you. Just be a bit
more careful.

They didn't have roller skates in my size at the time so I
opted for the roller blades that the local surf shop sold.
They cost a lot more than skates too.

I thought they would be fine as I used to ice skate a lot in
winters but I don't like them as much. Only argument is the
braking system on the rollerblades. Bad design.

[Gary]

Go for it, Jill. Don't just sit home and be old. Just be a bit
more careful, especially at first.

Once this hot weather ends and tourist season is over (october),
I'll dust mine off and head for the boardwalk again.

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Apart from hand-me-downs, my first car was a used Ford Galaxy.

That was my first car at age 16 but I didn't own it. It was
my Mom's car that I got to drive for a few years. It was
very reliable.

[Bryan Simmons]

My first car was a 1969 AMC Javelin, with a Rambler 232 straight 6 and 3 on the floor. While saying it might make me look foolish, I have owned 2 Fiats, a 128 sedan, and a 1982 Bertone X1/9. The X1/9, of course, had electrical problems, but that car was so fun to drive.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[John Kuthe]

Mine was that 1969 VW Beetle I owned with the Pioneer tape deck, Clarion 30W power booster/equalizer and two 8" coaxial Bozak speakers in the luggage compartment in custom built cabinets and on long wires so we could pull them out and serenade us as we swam at Morse Mill! Remember, Bryan? Fred used to pantomime drumming on a cymbal to visually let me know to turn the treble UP!

Good times! Summer of 1979 when I drank a LOT of free beers because I was 19 and I could buy beer and wine in IL! Same speakers I invented Cheep Effects with at Novelty Studios!

https://i.postimg.cc/LX84Yd5r/Novelty-Studios.jpg

:-)

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

Definition of boardwalk
(American English)

"1 : a walk constructed of planking
2 : a walk constructed along a beach"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boardwalk

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 6:59:16 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:

>
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
> >
> > I love roller skating and a few years ago I toyed with the idea of getting
> > a pair of rollerblades. My brother pointed out we don't heal as we did
> > when we were kids. I let the idea die a quiet death.
>
> If you enjoy it, don't let that stop you. Just be a bit
> more careful.
>

I opted for bike riding instead.

[Bruce]

I think that's wiser for anybody 40+.

[Bryan Simmons]

I didn't drive until I was 22. I might have had some substance use issues when I was 15, 16 years old, but I was certainly not in denial. I knew that I had no business driving because until I was almost 17, I was high on weed more often than not, and I liked to drink as often as I could acquire alcohol. For years after that, it was partly inertia, but also that I got around great with a skateboard and a bus pass, and that was a lot cheaper than having a car.

--Bryan https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/bryan-simmons/winters-present/ebook/product-176j5weg.html

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I heartily agree!

[Gary]

Well be careful with that too. Remember how you fell a couple
of times when you first got it.

On the news this morning that Simon Cowell broke his back
on an E-bike. They they followed up with a report that
many older people are getting E-bikes and having accidents.
As the E-bike can go faster, a faster fall can be more
dangerous.

Any activity has it's risks though and I won't stop doing what
I like to do because of the risk.

One exception for me is maybe surfing. I've watched too many
of those shark documentaries lately and it makes me feel so
darn lucky so far. So many times in the past 50 years and
I could have been a stastistic. The shark attack frequency
is rising too.

Hmmmm.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> >Once this hot weather ends and tourist season is over (october),
> >I'll dust mine off and head for the boardwalk again.
>
> Definition of boardwalk
> (American English)
>
> "1 : a walk constructed of planking
> 2 : a walk constructed along a beach"
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boardwalk

I think most boardwalks along the ocean were originally
made of board planking, hence the name.

In my lifetime, all that I've seen have been replaced
with concrete. Mine here is about 3 miles long and smooth
and good for skating. :)

Best fun is to go on a windy day. First skate into the wind,
like walking uphill on a mountain. Then turn and skate with
the strong wind. Often just a few skating motions to get
moving and the wind will push you all the way to the other end.
Fun to do.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
> >
> > I opted for bike riding instead.
>

> On the news this morning that Simon Cowell broke his back
> on an E-bike. They they followed up with a report that
> many older people are getting E-bikes and having accidents.
> As the E-bike can go faster, a faster fall can be more
> dangerous.
>

I saw something yesterday on the bike group I belong about him having
an accident.

Many e-bikes have gears to help control your speed and the pedal assist
also controls speed. You can preach all day, but if you zoom along on
something you don't know how to control and not paying attention, you'll
definitely find yourself in an accident. Many don't take into consideration
the weight of these bikes, either.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:28:41 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >Once this hot weather ends and tourist season is over (october),
>> >I'll dust mine off and head for the boardwalk again.
>>
>> Definition of boardwalk
>> (American English)
>>
>> "1 : a walk constructed of planking
>> 2 : a walk constructed along a beach"
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boardwalk
>
>I think most boardwalks along the ocean were originally
>made of board planking, hence the name.

Yes, that sounds plausible.

>
>In my lifetime, all that I've seen have been replaced
>with concrete. Mine here is about 3 miles long and smooth
>and good for skating. :)
>
>Best fun is to go on a windy day. First skate into the wind,
>like walking uphill on a mountain. Then turn and skate with
>the strong wind. Often just a few skating motions to get
>moving and the wind will push you all the way to the other end.
>Fun to do.

I'd break something. Skating and roller skating are not for me. The
last time I ice skated, I raced my brother. Except he can skate and I
had to use willpower. I ended up with a concussion.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F3167A9...@att.net...

====

You don't have a lot of people walking on it?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:nun5jf1bjvai1i02h...@4ax.com...

=====

Oh dear .......

[Gary]

Too many right now. Look above where I said:
> > >Once this hot weather ends and tourist season is over (october),
> > >I'll dust mine off and head for the boardwalk again.

And on a cold, windy winter day there are very few people there.
That's when the oceanfront is especially nice.

[U.S. Janet B.]

you're kidding, right? Boardwalks are no longer made of boards but
cement instead? You can tell I haven't been to Atlantic City or
elsewhere like that in a donkey's years.
Boardwalks in the national parks are still made of boards. At least
the national parks that I go to are still making them of boards.
Janet US

[Gary]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> you're kidding, right? Boardwalks are no longer made of boards but
> cement instead? You can tell I haven't been to Atlantic City or
> elsewhere like that in a donkey's years.
> Boardwalks in the national parks are still made of boards. At least
> the national parks that I go to are still making them of boards.

Still many boardwalks (wooden) available but many oceanfront ones
have switched to concrete. Rather than get destroyed by the ocean
during hurricanes, they act as seawalls and resist destruction
and erosion.

I'm sure there are some oceanfront ones too but not so much
these days. Mine is about 3 miles long and all concrete.

The few "walks" in my nearby state park are all wooden.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F33C336...@att.net...

===

OK :))))))))

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> you're kidding, right? Boardwalks are no longer made of boards but
> cement instead? You can tell I haven't been to Atlantic City or
> elsewhere like that in a donkey's years.
> Boardwalks in the national parks are still made of boards. At least
> the national parks that I go to are still making them of boards.

Here in Long Island, NY, it's nice and all weird-concrete-metal-whatever.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:35:40 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

National Parks use wooden walkways, nothing permanent like concrete
that would alter the esthetics. The scenery from NY boardwalks is so
spectacular that words are inadequate. The New York Boardwalks; Coney
Island, Rockaways, Riiss Park, etal are all made of boards/lumber.
They are good for walking, pushing carriages, wheelchairs, bike
riding. They are very sturdy, and have withstood the severest
hurricanes. Brooklyn's boardwalks offer the most spectacula vistas on
the planet and the exqusite aromas from food cooking are unmatched
anywhere. I can clearly understand how a skinny melink can scoff down
a hundred Nathans hotdogs, it's the scenery, the salt air, and the
most spectacular wimmens parading their goods on the boardwalk in the
teeniest bikinis.
https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=A0geKYkyHjRfkywAuAZpCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTByMHVzM20zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?q=new+york+boardwalks&v_t=loki-keyword

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:25:37 PM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 4:54:08 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 8/5/2020 4:42 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:52:17 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl.
> > >>
> > >> So you fry it at fridge temp? I fry fish cold, because otherwise to get the corn meal crunchy, you'd have to overcook the fish,
> >
> > What's that about fried fish?! You'd have to overcook the fish to get
> > the cornmeal crunchy if the fish wasn't refrigerator cold? Boy, you
> > don't know about frying fish. Turn down the heat.
> >
> > > but bone-in chicken is better if you let it warm up a little before frying it.
> > >>
> > >> --Bryan
> > >>
> > > The hot grease takes care of taking the chill off that girl. But can you
> > > cite your source of letting your chicken sit out for an hour and take the
> > > chill off her bones?
>
> "It’s important to keep meat and poultry chilled before cooking for safety reasons. But it is acceptable to let your chicken sit at room temperature for up to 30 minutes before frying. This step also ensures that your chicken cooks evenly and has a superior texture."
> --source: https://blog.chefworks.com/uniforms/9-common-mistakes-to-avoid-for-cooking-fried-chicken/
>
> For chicken that has been brined, I give it an hour.
> > >
> > It might be less spatter but I sure wouldn't let chicken get to room
> > temp before I did anything with it.
> >
> > It's fine to fry chicken pieces right out of the fridge. Granted, I
> > haven't fried chicken since around 1982. I stopped at the grocery store
> > on my way home from work. Bought a package of raw cut-up chicken. You
> > can be sure it had been refrigerated! I did let the packaged chicken
> > sit on the counter while I prepared the seasoned flour coating and
> > heated the oil (probably Crisco). I don't recall if I did an egg wash.
> > I was 22; who remembers? IIRC I was using an electric skillet my
> > mother had given me to fry the chicken.
> >
> > One could reasonably say it was still fairly cold when I dredged it and
> > set it aside for a minute on waxed paper so the coating could set. (I do
> > remember knowing that much, even at that young age).
>
> I use a plastic grocery bag, rather than waxed paper, then turn the bag inside out to use as a garbage bag. Our kitchen garbage can is a little ~1.5 gallon one that fits grocery bags, as we compost and recycle.
>
> > Then the chicken
> > went into the hot grease. The key is to slip the coated chicken pieces
> > it into the pan one at a time. Don't drop them in. That way it won't
> > spatter. Don't overcrowd the pan. People often make the mistake of
> > having the temperature of the fat too high. Nice crispy coating, raw
> > chicken. Ooops. Don't try to turn it too soon. Leave it alone! Fried
> > chicken takes a good 30 minutes. And you should arrange the pieces so
> > they can all cook evenly.
>
> I don't need to turn the chicken because it's fried in https://www.pinterest.com/pin/825706912910808500/ in peanut oil. I heat the oil to 375, put in the chicken, then reduce the heat to 350.
> >
> > One must have patience. Good home fried chicken cannot be rushed.
> >
> > The reason I stopped making fried chicken is because I had just come
> > home from work, stopped at the store, started dinner. I had not yet
> > changed out of my work clothes. I was wearing a silk blouse. About 15
> > minutes in, the chicken skin *popped* and I got spattered with hot
> > grease. It melded my silk shirt to my chest. I've never fried chicken
> > since. But I *do* know how to cook it! :)
>
> Jill, I fry stuff all the time. The big fryer is for everything besides fish, and I have a smaller one exclusively for fish. I almost certainly deep fry more often than anyone else who posts here. I tell folks that the best reason not to fry as much as I do is, "...because you don't want your kitchen to look like mine." If you don't want silk shirts melded to your chest, and that's understandable, wear a cotton shirt, or no shirt. While I'm pretty nudist, I typically have pants on when I fry, but often don't have a shirt on, and I almost never get hit with oil splatter.
> >
> > Jill
>
> --Bryan

Fried chicken is a popular dish on this rock. We have a wide range of ways to fry chicken. Chicken karaage is pretty popular these days. My guess is that Hawaiian fried chicken will be popular on the mainland. It's tasty chicken that's easy to eat but it's not Hawaiian - it's Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTVjY-oKgDEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTVjY-oKgDE

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, I bet yoose scarfed down a lot of weenies on 'dem
boardwalks yooself!

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:44:38 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
snip

The scenery from NY boardwalks is so
>spectacular that words are inadequate. The New York Boardwalks; Coney
>Island, Rockaways, Riiss Park, etal are all made of boards/lumber.
>They are good for walking, pushing carriages, wheelchairs, bike
>riding. They are very sturdy, and have withstood the severest
>hurricanes. Brooklyn's boardwalks offer the most spectacula vistas on
>the planet and the exqusite aromas from food cooking are unmatched
>anywhere. I can clearly understand how a skinny melink can scoff down
>a hundred Nathans hotdogs, it's the scenery, the salt air, and the
>most spectacular wimmens parading their goods on the boardwalk in the
>teeniest bikinis.
>https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=A0geKYkyHjRfkywAuAZpCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTByMHVzM20zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?q=new+york+boardwalks&v_t=loki-keyword

What spectacular scenery or spectacular vista? It's water, buildings
and people.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:44:38 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>National Parks use wooden walkways, nothing permanent like concrete
>that would alter the esthetics. The scenery from NY boardwalks is so
>spectacular that words are inadequate. The New York Boardwalks; Coney
>Island, Rockaways, Riiss Park, etal are all made of boards/lumber.
>They are good for walking, pushing carriages, wheelchairs, bike
>riding. They are very sturdy, and have withstood the severest
>hurricanes. Brooklyn's boardwalks offer the most spectacula vistas on
>the planet and the exqusite aromas from food cooking are unmatched
>anywhere. I can clearly understand how a skinny melink can scoff down
>a hundred Nathans hotdogs, it's the scenery, the salt air, and the
>most spectacular wimmens parading their goods on the boardwalk in the
>teeniest bikinis.
>https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=A0geKYkyHjRfkywAuAZpCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTByMHVzM20zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?q=new+york+boardwalks&v_t=loki-keyword

Nice, but run of the mill. You can find that in many places.