OT Perfect AM in Da Lou! 64F and humid!

[John Kuthe]

And I cleaned and refilled my hummingbird feeder and saw THREE different hummingbirds! Two smallish and one a little larger.

Got my Vegetarian Breakfast of brown rice, homemade "baked" beans and some Garlic Potatoes with splash of red wine and Worcestershire, and a big fat mango for dessert. (Every meal should have as healthy dessert!:-))

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and So much More!

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 8:28:01 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> And I cleaned and refilled my hummingbird feeder and saw THREE different hummingbirds! Two smallish and one a little larger.

Perfect in Ann Arbor, too. 50 F and not so humid. We'll see a
high of 71 and the humidity will bottom out at 34%, which is
quite dry for Michigan in June.

We cleaned the maple seeds out of the gutters and after a short
break for water I'll use the leaf blower (electric) to clean
them off the pavement and onto the lawn.

> Got my Vegetarian Breakfast of brown rice, homemade "baked" beans and some Garlic Potatoes with splash of red wine and Worcestershire, and a big fat mango for dessert. (Every meal should have as healthy dessert!:-))

Three hours ago I ate my vegetarian breakfast of oatmeal with
raisins, butter, and brown sugar, washed down with a glass of milk.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

When you say brown sugar, do you mean white sugar coloured brown with
molasses?

[John Kuthe]

I feel so badly for my work's residents'. They get plain oatmeal many times in the morning, when "everyone knows" that plain oatmeal is just a culinary canvass for yummies like butter and brown sugar.

John Kuthe...

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yep.

Cindy Hamilton

[John Kuthe]

Whatever suits you, I'm just saying oatmeal is better with Yummies!

John Kuthe...

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 05:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Half vegetarian... nothing vegetarian about butter and milk.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Again you mistake vegetarian for vegan.

I forgive you.

Cindy Hamilton

[John Kuthe]

I'm not a Vegan, Ovolactovegetarian and I eat BBQ if offered because 1. I love BBQ and 2. It'r rude to turn down a Gift. :-)

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

John Kuthe wrote:

> I'm not a Vegan, Ovolactovegetarian and I eat BBQ if offered because 1. I love BBQ and 2. It'r rude to turn down a Gift. :-)
>

Do you "eat" pussy?

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Three hours ago I ate my vegetarian breakfast of oatmeal with
> raisins, butter, and brown sugar,

My oatmeal dish of choice exactly, Cindy.
Good recipe, imo.

[John Kuthe]

Oh HELL YES! I;'t smy FAVE thing to do for a lady! But consumed is a scant amount of secretions at best! "Licking and Sucking Pussy" would be a better term.

John Kuthe...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 7:58:52 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>

> Perfect in Ann Arbor, too. 50 F and not so humid. We'll see a
> high of 71 and the humidity will bottom out at 34%, which is
> quite dry for Michigan in June.
>
> We cleaned the maple seeds out of the gutters and after a short
> break for water I'll use the leaf blower (electric) to clean
> them off the pavement and onto the lawn.
>

> I ate my vegetarian breakfast of oatmeal with
> raisins, butter, and brown sugar, washed down with a glass of milk.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Upper 80's here today and bit breezy. I've got those gutter covers and haven't
had to clean out gutters in about 10 years. A neighbor has climbed a ladder
on occasion and has checked and says there's nothing in them so the covers are
doing the job perfectly.

Breakfast was a large insulated mug of coffee and sausage balls gently reheated
in the microwave.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

People seem to find this really hard. Either they think that
vegetarians don't use butter and milk or they think that vegetarians
eat fish.

[Bruce]

Greg Sorrow.

[dsi1]

Don't feel too bad about it. A bowl of oatmeal is pretty much the only thing that a lot of old folks can tolerate in the morning. I used to make a bowl of the stuff every morning for my mother-in-law.

On this rock, they like to put a little sugar, and some milk. I've never seen anybody put butter on their oatmeal. I suppose they would if they were raised on the mainland. I shall log that into my notebook that mainland people like to put butter on their oatmeal. The local old folks will also like to have a papaya alongside their bowl of oats. My guess is that it helps with digestion.

[Hank Rogers]

Why don't you bring in some of your yummies for the poor old souls?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not all of them do. You'd better put that some mainland people
like to put butter in their oatmeal.

I've never liked milk on my oatmeal. There are people who do,
though.

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I like a good size pat of butter in the bottom of the bowl then serve the
hot oatmeal over it. While that's melting, add the sugar; plain old white
sugar is fine with me. Then a dribble of milk or cream, maybe a tablespoon.

Oatmeal, consumed on a regular basis, is great for lowering cholesterol and
it makes you feel full longer. One of those 'stick to your ribs' breakfasts.

[dsi1]

People on the mainland also like to put butter on their rice. My Korean mother-in-law must of had a shit fit when she first saw her new white step-kids do that. I have to admit that I felt a little dizzy when I saw my brother-in-laws put butter, sugar, and milk on their bowls of rice. I love those guys but these days, I've learned to look away when they eat rice.

[Hank Rogers]

Or, they think vegetarians whine and preach all the time.

[Hank Rogers]

Nah, sounds more like Popeye.

[Hank Rogers]

I have oatmeal almost every day when the weather ain't hot.

Try it with your butter, but add a couple TBSP of dried chopped
dates, instead of sugar. Adds a nice flavor, and just the right
amount of sweetness for me. I also put in a little black pepper and
salt. I usually let it sit in a covered microwaveable bowl
overnight, so all that needs to be done next morning is uncover and
stick it in the microwave.

[GM]

In summer, I actually eat it at room temp...I make a bunch and I'm good for the week...add some fruit, nuts etc...very good...

--
Best
Greg

[Dave Smith]

I use about a tablespoon of whole milk in my oatmeal.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 1:31:42 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> People on the mainland also like to put butter on their rice. My Korean mother-in-law must of had a shit fit when she first saw her new white step-kids do that. I have to admit that I felt a little dizzy when I saw my brother-in-laws put butter, sugar, and milk on their bowls of rice. I love those guys but these days, I've learned to look away when they eat rice.
>

If I eat rice the next morning for breakfast I will put butter and sugar on
it, also a splash of milk and cream. It makes a good and filling breakfast.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Try it with your butter, but add a couple TBSP of dried chopped
> dates, instead of sugar. Adds a nice flavor, and just the right
> amount of sweetness for me. I also put in a little black pepper and
> salt. I usually let it sit in a covered microwaveable bowl
> overnight, so all that needs to be done next morning is uncover and
> stick it in the microwave.
>

I've seen it with raisins but never dates, but I think just about any
dried fruit would be good. Never heard of adding black pepper, though.

[Bruce]

I have never even though of putting butter on rice. I must be
Hawaiian.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I guess it's the lack of palm trees around here that makes us behave in
such an uncivilized manner.

[Hank Rogers]

You'd really have a shit hemorrhage if you saw them eating rice
pudding.

[Hank Rogers]

I tried dried figs, bananas, raisins, and I think some others I
can't remember, but so far nothing nearly as good as dates (to me).

Pepper is one of those things you don't really notice, but can tell
when it's left out. It's still good if I forget the S&P, just
slightly different.

Pepper on cantaloupe is a must for me though. I'm gonna have that
even if it hair lips the governor.

[Hank Rogers]

Some people don't even bother to cook it, they just let it sit in
the fridge till they want a bowl.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not all people on the mainland. My husband cooks rice with butter
in it. I tolerate it, but I prefer it without butter. Or salt.

When I was a child, I ate rice with butter and brown sugar, but
I got over it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

I think that one Tbls of milk would be appropo for a tiny quantity of
oatmeal... I wouldn't add any milk as I normally cook my oatmeal in
skim milk. I often sweeten oatmeal with honey and I add chopped dates
rather than raisins... I've been known to add raisinettes to
oatmeal... but then I've put rasinettes in creamcheese and orange
marmalade sandwiches. Orange marmalade is one of my must have cooking
ingredients, goes well with meats, often on sale in large jars...
works very well in baking too, makes chocolate cakes/brownies extra
yummy. Chocolate and orange is a match made in cooking heaven.

[Sheldon Martin]

We consume very little rice, I don't consider rice fit for human
consumption, other than carbos contains zero nutrients.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:34:52 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 2:20:02 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:15:56 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >If I eat rice the next morning for breakfast I will put butter and sugar on
>> >it, also a splash of milk and cream. It makes a good and filling breakfast.
>>
>> I have never even though of putting butter on rice. I must be
>> Hawaiian.
>>
>I guess it's the lack of palm trees around here that makes us behave in
>such an uncivilized manner.

Oh well, we can't all be Hawaiian.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 3:50:18 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Orange marmalade is one of my must have cooking
> ingredients, goes well with meats, often on sale in large jars...
> works very well in baking too, makes chocolate cakes/brownies extra
> yummy. Chocolate and orange is a match made in cooking heaven.
>

I am not a fan of chocolates and fruits as a combination. The only
exception to that is the occasional chocolate-covered cherry.

[Hank Rogers]

I'm so happy for yoose Popeye.

[John Kuthe]

Have you ever had a Chocolate Covered Cherry that had a REAL cherry in it?

I invented one and the are do die for delicious! Dark Chocolate covering, wine proof liquor soaked real Bing Cherries and YUM!

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

Didn't you try selling those on the internet a few years ago?

Probably too hard to ship economically?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 9:18:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:07:40 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 3:50:18 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > Orange marmalade is one of my must have cooking
> > > ingredients, goes well with meats, often on sale in large jars...
> > > works very well in baking too, makes chocolate cakes/brownies extra
> > > yummy. Chocolate and orange is a match made in cooking heaven.
> > >
> > I am not a fan of chocolates and fruits as a combination. The only
> > exception to that is the occasional chocolate-covered cherry.
>
> Have you ever had a Chocolate Covered Cherry that had a REAL cherry in it?
>
> I invented one

No, you didn't. Chocolatiers have been using invertase for
years.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > Have you ever had a Chocolate Covered Cherry that had a REAL cherry in it?
> >
> > I invented one
>
> No, you didn't. Chocolatiers have been using invertase for
> years.

John's chocolates could still be his invention though if
he came up with it on his own.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I can't quite imagine he woke up one morning and say, "Oh, I think
I'll use invertase to break down the sugars in a cherry and create
a delicious cordial" all on his own.

I'll grant he might have thought to use fresh cherries instead of
maraschino cherries, just the way it occurred to me to use dried
fruit instead of candied fruit in fruitcake. "How can I make this
not disgusting? Better ingredients!"

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

What are you talking about, Sheldon? They're discussing oatmeal, not rice.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Not oat milk?! Seems like the perfect place for it. ;)

Jill

[jmcquown]

I used to cook rice for breakfast frequently. The "mainland" where I
learned to cook rice was called *Thailand*. No milk or cream, no sugar,
just butter and salt. We had a Thai cook named Alum and she's the one
who taught me how to make it. Oh, surprise! an Asian woman who put
butter on rice! Her youngest son, Dom, loved butter. She'd sometimes
buy a knob of butter for him at the market as a treat.

Jill

[jmcquown]

There are tons of sago palms and palmettos around here, do they count? ;)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

It's redundant on oatmeal ;-)

I got away from oat milk after I discovered lactose free milk. My wife
has started using oat milk so we usually have some on hand. I would use
it but I need to use up the lactose free milk before it goes bad,
despite it's long shelf life.

[jmcquown]

On 6/16/2020 10:50 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-06-16 10:18 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/14/2020 2:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>> I use about a tablespoon of whole milk in my oatmeal.
>>>
>>>
>> Not oat milk?!  Seems like the perfect place for it. ;)
>
> It's redundant on oatmeal  ;-)
>

LOL probably so!

> I  got away from oat milk after I discovered lactose free milk.  My wife
> has started using oat milk so we usually have some on hand. I would use
> it but I need to use up the lactose free milk before it goes bad,
> despite it's long shelf life.
>

You know me, I like to *drink* milk so it going bad before I can use up
a half gallon is unlikely. I don't have a problem with lactose but I
love the long shelf life of lactose free and it does taste exactly the
same. I just don't think to buy it. Plus, I wouldn't want to deprive
people who are *truly* lactose intolerant. Lactose free milk doesn't
get nearly as much shelf space as other dairy milk or nut and grain
"milks"... at least not yet. It does seem to be growing in popularity.

An aside about adults drinking milk, purely anecdotal: I like to watch
old movies (circa 1930's, 40's) on TV. I've noticed in particular there
are a lot of adults drinking milk in those old films. A glass of milk
at breakfast with coffee and juice, or if they're out grabbing a bite to
eat for lunch at a diner. Seems the RFC idea of adults not drinking
milk is a fairly recent development in gastronomic history. Or hey,
maybe some people just don't like milk. ;)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-06-16 11:47 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/16/2020 10:50 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I  got away from oat milk after I discovered lactose free milk.  My
>> wife has started using oat milk so we usually have some on hand. I
>> would use it but I need to use up the lactose free milk before it goes
>> bad, despite it's long shelf life.
>>
> You know me, I like to *drink* milk so it going bad before I can use up
> a half gallon is unlikely.  I don't have a problem with lactose but I
> love the long shelf life of lactose free and it does taste exactly the
> same.  I just don't think to buy it.

If you are drinking regular milk often enough to use it up and there is
no lactose problem you may has well stick to the regular stuff. Around
this area lactose free milk is a lot more expensive. A 2 litre csarton
of regular milk runs about $3.70 the same size in lactose free is closer
to $6. A 4 litre bag usually runs $4.29 compared to $9.99 for lactose
free. Thank goodness the Food Basics grocery us now carrying it and
selling it for about about $1 less for the 2 litre carton and $2 less
for the 4 litre size.

Plus, I wouldn't want to deprive
> people who are *truly* lactose intolerant.  Lactose free milk doesn't
> get nearly as much shelf space as other dairy milk or nut and grain
> "milks"... at least not yet.  It does seem to be growing in popularity.

In the year or so that I have been using lactose free milk they is more
and more of it. Stores that used to be the only ones who sold it have
more available and those who never used to sell it have started.

>
> An aside about adults drinking milk, purely anecdotal:  I like to watch
> old movies (circa 1930's, 40's) on TV.  I've noticed in particular there
> are a lot of adults drinking milk in those old films.  A glass of milk
> at breakfast with coffee and juice, or if they're out grabbing a bite to
> eat for lunch at a diner.  Seems the RFC idea of adults not drinking
> milk is a fairly recent development in gastronomic history.  Or hey,
> maybe some people just don't like milk. ;)

I am one of those who just doesn't like to drink milk. I use it on
cereal and in lattes. About once every week or two I have a late night
hot cocoa. I just don't like the way it goes down my throat like oozing
phlegm.