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Snag

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Jul 18, 2020, 11:02:31 PM7/18/20
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There were 6 beautiful Roma's red and ripe for picking this morning
... they ended up in a big ol' pot of spaghetti sauce (along with some
canned tomatoes and many other ingredients) . And it was tasty ! The
plants are all loaded , some with up to 20 tomatoes in various stages of
growth . The tomato hornworms are out now , I've picked over 20 off the
plants in the last 2 days . Most of them yesterday , just before dark I
dusted heavily with Dipel , a Btk powder . The couple I found today
didn't seem much interested in eating , they must have had a tummy-ache ...
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Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jul 18, 2020, 11:33:59 PM7/18/20
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On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>
> There were 6 beautiful Roma's red and ripe for picking this morning
> ... they ended up in a big ol' pot of spaghetti sauce
>
> Snag
>
A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.

Snag

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Jul 19, 2020, 7:30:12 AM7/19/20
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Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
juice . There are however several Rutgers tomato plants out there , and
there are some half-ripe fruits on some of them . I see some BLT's
coming in a week or so . Fresh tomatoes and bacon are two of my wife's
favorite foods ... I kinda like 'em too !

Cindy Hamilton

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Jul 19, 2020, 7:36:39 AM7/19/20
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On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 7:30:12 AM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
> On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> >>
> >> There were 6 beautiful Roma's red and ripe for picking this morning
> >> ... they ended up in a big ol' pot of spaghetti sauce
> >>
> >> Snag
> >>
> > A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
> > by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
> >
>
> Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
> particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
> juice .

That's why I like them for slicing. That, and when I buy them they're
generally a little riper than the other tomatoes. I've pretty much
switched to grape tomatoes because the cube-square law enables growers
to pick them at a greater stage of ripeness.

> There are however several Rutgers tomato plants out there , and
> there are some half-ripe fruits on some of them . I see some BLT's
> coming in a week or so . Fresh tomatoes and bacon are two of my wife's
> favorite foods ... I kinda like 'em too !

Yep. I've got bacon on my shopping list.

Cindy Hamilton

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:21:23 AM7/19/20
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Same here or diced with kirbys, sweet onion, and a wee bit of Italian
dressing. I wouldn't mix fresh with canned.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:25:19 AM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 06:30:02 -0500, Snag <Snag...@msn.com> wrote:

>On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>
>>> There were 6 beautiful Roma's red and ripe for picking this morning
>>> ... they ended up in a big ol' pot of spaghetti sauce
>>>
>>> Snag
>>>
>> A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
>> by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
>>
>
>Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
>particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
>juice.

I find ripe Romas to be one of the best slicing tomatoes, they don't
become a puddle.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:30:57 AM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 04:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 7:30:12 AM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
>> On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> > On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There were 6 beautiful Roma's red and ripe for picking this morning
>> >> ... they ended up in a big ol' pot of spaghetti sauce
>> >>
>> >> Snag
>> >>
>> > A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
>> > by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
>> >
>>
>> Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
>> particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
>> juice .
>
>That's why I like them for slicing. That, and when I buy them they're
>generally a little riper than the other tomatoes.

I don't cook my home growns, then what was the point when I can buy
whole canned and canned crushed.

Gary

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:10:51 AM7/19/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> Snag wrote:

> >Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
> >particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
> >juice.
>
> I find ripe Romas to be one of the best slicing tomatoes, they don't
> become a puddle.

In my opinion, they are the only good grocery store tomatoes.
Good for any use. The nicer large tomatoes often have hard
cores (the ones from the stores)

I'd love to try fresh from the garden Romas.

Gary

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:11:07 AM7/19/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> I don't cook my home growns, then what was the point when I can buy
> whole canned and canned crushed.

Home grown tomatoes are best for everything. Even homegrown
chopped and frozen until winter are so superior to any
canned tomatoes.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:29:08 AM7/19/20
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They're quite good. Before I gave up on growing tomatoes, I'd plant
Romas and (usually) Brandywines.

Cindy Hamilton

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:29:29 AM7/19/20
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Actually most home growns are salad tomatoes and are much too juicy
for cooking... by the time the the liquid is reduced the tomatoes
become caramelized, they turn brown and taste nothing of tomato. When
commercial tomato paste is made those tomatoes are not cooked, the
excess water is removed with huge vacuum towers, the water vapor is
sucked off the surface.... the same way frozen OJ concentrate is made.
Tomatoes are relatively new to Italian cookery so there is nothing
Italian about tomato sauce.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:46:03 AM7/19/20
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Those have hard cores because they are picked unripe so they will ship
well.... most all market fruit is picked unripe... you've probably
never eaten a vine ripened melon... once you have you'll never buy a
market melon again... once picked melons don't ripen, neither
pineapple. The only field ripened pineapple you'll find is canned.

>I'd love to try fresh from the garden Romas.

Plant some, they are very easy to grow in tubs... don't you have a
patio? Fill some large tubs with potting soil and plant whatever you
like.

Snag

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:49:25 AM7/19/20
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I prefer my home canned tomatoes , the only thing added is a bit of
citric acid . No added salt , no preservatives . Frozen is even better ,
nothing but tomato .

U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 19, 2020, 12:20:38 PM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 09:29:26 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
Nah. I'm with Gary on that.
Janet US

U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 19, 2020, 12:21:27 PM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 09:10:25 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

I agree, Gary.
Janet US

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 1:36:41 PM7/19/20
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A total waste of labor growing tomatoes.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 19, 2020, 1:37:39 PM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 10:21:20 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:
Agree to what?

Hank Rogers

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Jul 19, 2020, 2:48:51 PM7/19/20
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Good thing it's not yoose labor Popeye.


U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 19, 2020, 2:58:27 PM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 13:37:37 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
that romas "they are the only good grocery store tomatoes.
>>>Good for any use. "
Janet US

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jul 19, 2020, 3:43:43 PM7/19/20
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On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:30:12 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>
> On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
> > by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
> >
>
> Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
> particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
> juice .
> --
> Snag
>
I'd still had to sink my teeth into one or two just because they're the
first ripe tomatoes of the season no matter what they're better used for.

Bruce

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Jul 19, 2020, 3:52:54 PM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 09:45:59 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 09:10:25 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Snag wrote:
>>
>>> >Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
>>> >particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
>>> >juice.
>>>
>>> I find ripe Romas to be one of the best slicing tomatoes, they don't
>>> become a puddle.
>>
>>In my opinion, they are the only good grocery store tomatoes.
>>Good for any use. The nicer large tomatoes often have hard
>>cores (the ones from the stores)
>
>Those have hard cores because they are picked unripe so they will ship
>well....

Plus, big supermarket tomatoes are made of edible plastic.

Snag

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:35:27 PM7/19/20
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I think you're just jealous because you can't grow anything . Current
count of house plants here is around 60 or so , the damn things just
keep on multiplying . ONE of my Roma tomato plants has around 40
tomatoes on it right now . I don't call getting that much food from a
single plant a waste of time . Them that can , do . Them that can't
criticize .

Snag

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:40:22 PM7/19/20
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I suggest you change his nickname to "Black Thumb Martin" since he's
obviously horticulturally impaired .

Snag

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:59:32 PM7/19/20
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Since the slicing tomatoes are now starting to ripen I managed to
control my self . There is one in particular (though it hasn't started
to turn red) that is an ideal candidate for fried green tomatoes ...

Bruce

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:05:49 PM7/19/20
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Why would you wait until it turns red if you're going to make a fried
green tomato of it?

Bryan Simmons

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Jul 19, 2020, 9:23:17 PM7/19/20
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On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
DiPel is great. Roma tomatoes are boring.
> --
> Snag

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons

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Jul 19, 2020, 10:17:59 PM7/19/20
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On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:30:12 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
Rutgers are great tasting tomatoes, with the kind of intense tomato flavor that goes perfectly with bacon. My mother grew them. I wish you well. I've found them prone to getting diseases My open pollinated cherry tomatoes grow back as volunteers every year, and are generally disease free. Yeah, you can't put them on a sandwich, but I need carbs like I need other unhealthful foods, and the cherries are great for salads, especially with crumbled bacon. Where I live, the damned squirrels like to take one bite out of each of the large tomatoes, so growing cherry tomatoes makes sense.

On an unrelated note, the place where we camp, and where we camped last night to view the comet, has exploded with blackberries. They are spreading wildly, and the existing floricanes were loaded with berries that were at least two weeks from ripe, which is fairly late for the area. They've been growing on the perimeter of an old sawdust pile for years, but they seem to be on the march, creating a giant grove of blackberries. The older floricanes fruited earlier, and we ate our fill, but is we can go back in two weeks there will be so many that we could pick them to donate a bunch.
> --
> Snag

--Bryan

Bruce

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Jul 19, 2020, 10:35:45 PM7/19/20
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:30:12 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> >>
>> > A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
>> > by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
>> >
>>
>> Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
>> particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
>> juice . There are however several Rutgers tomato plants out there , and
>> there are some half-ripe fruits on some of them . I see some BLT's
>> coming in a week or so . Fresh tomatoes and bacon are two of my wife's
>> favorite foods ... I kinda like 'em too !
>
>Rutgers are great tasting tomatoes, with the kind of intense tomato flavor that
>goes perfectly with bacon. My mother grew them. I wish you well.
>I've found them prone to getting diseases My open pollinated cherry
>tomatoes grow back as volunteers every year, and are generally
>disease free. Yeah, you can't put them on a sandwich, but I need
>carbs like I need other unhealthful foods

Carbs are not unhealthy by definition. If you want to lose weight,
just drink less ice tea.

Hank Rogers

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Jul 19, 2020, 11:24:11 PM7/19/20
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All americans drink gallon buckets of heavily sweetened tea.
Drinking less is just NOT an option.

Dammit druce, has your memory completely failed? Alzheimer's ?




dsi1

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Jul 19, 2020, 11:51:19 PM7/19/20
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Americans don't drink too much ice tea. They do have a problem with huge ass soft drinks of the type sold in convenience stores. That's changing though - probably because drinking bottled water is currently trendy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/upshot/soda-industry-struggles-as-consumer-tastes-change.html

Snag

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Jul 20, 2020, 12:33:02 AM7/20/20
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Sez you ... you probably wouldn't find them boring if in mid January
you had some to make a batch of spaghetti or pizza sauce ! Our goal is
to preserve healthy and nutritious foods for later use . My wife's peach
jam is to die for !

Bruce

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Jul 20, 2020, 1:20:13 AM7/20/20
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She puts roma tomatoes in her peach jam?

songbird

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Jul 20, 2020, 7:17:39 AM7/20/20
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 4:35:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:30:12 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> >> On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> > A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being chomped
>> >> > by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
>> >> particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
>> >> juice . There are however several Rutgers tomato plants out there , and
>> >> there are some half-ripe fruits on some of them . I see some BLT's
>> >> coming in a week or so . Fresh tomatoes and bacon are two of my wife's
>> >> favorite foods ... I kinda like 'em too !
>> >
>> >Rutgers are great tasting tomatoes, with the kind of intense tomato flavor that
>> >goes perfectly with bacon. My mother grew them. I wish you well.
>> >I've found them prone to getting diseases My open pollinated cherry
>> >tomatoes grow back as volunteers every year, and are generally
>> >disease free. Yeah, you can't put them on a sandwich, but I need
>> >carbs like I need other unhealthful foods
>>
>> Carbs are not unhealthy by definition. If you want to lose weight,
>> just drink less ice tea.

especially if it is sweetened.

we make our BLTs with cherry tomatoes (cut in half) and bacon in a bowl, no need for bread at all.


> Americans don't drink too much ice tea. They do have a problem with huge ass soft drinks of the type sold in convenience stores. That's changing though - probably because drinking bottled water is currently trendy.

people buying bottled water is stupid, just bring your
own water. aside from the plastic pollution and the
horrible taste it is very expensive.


> https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/upshot/soda-industry-struggles-as-consumer-tastes-change.html


songbird

Gary

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Jul 20, 2020, 10:35:35 AM7/20/20
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Bruce wrote:
>
> Snag wrote:
> > Since the slicing tomatoes are now starting to ripen I managed to
> >control my self . There is one in particular (though it hasn't started
> >to turn red) that is an ideal candidate for fried green tomatoes ...
>
> Why would you wait until it turns red if you're going to make a fried
> green tomato of it?

Tomatoes are so good when ripened to red. Most people let
them do that. When end of season comes, you're often left
with tomatoes that don't ripen much so well. THOSE are the
ones good to make "Fried Green."

About the same taste as any fried summer squash.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 20, 2020, 1:37:15 PM7/20/20
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Home grown tomatoes are a waste of time and effort if you're going to
cook them. Canned tomatoes are just as good if not better, cost less,
and no labor. Anyone tells me that a vegetable garden is free food is
lying. We grow far more tomatoes than we can eat but give the overage
to others and in return they give us the overage from their crops.
People with gardens tend to grow different crops so swapping is a
win-win. Plus were I to cook all the tomatoes we grow we could never
eat it all, we'd have to give it away only people tend not to want
someone elses cooked tomatoes, they much prefer to cook their own...
many would take them to be polite but then they'd not eat them. And
there are plenty of farms around here where one can buy by the bushel
for cheap. Several of our neighbors try to give us foods they've
canned but we tell them thank you but we already have too much...
truth is we really don't want other's cooking, especially not after
seeing their kitchen. We have nearby neighbors with gardens who grow
differant crops from ours so we swap. Our next door neighbor has a
big family and grows lots of onions, garlic and potatoes. We grow a
lot of different melons, cabbage, okra, winter and summer squash. We
swap and and I have to tell him not to leave so much at our door as
it's just the two of us and we can't eat 40 pounds of potatoes, 40
pounds of onions, and 40 heads of garlic before it goes bad. This
year we will have a huge pumpkin patch, we really only grow pumpkin to
display during the holidays, we will need to give nost away this year.
We don't bother growing corn anymore, takes too much space and we can
buy all we want from the farmers for cheap... there are corn fields
close by for as far as the eye can see. I grow a lot of cukes for
pickling and eat a lot while they're still small and have no hard
seeds... I can polish off a dozen small kirbys at a sitting. At the
end of the season I pick the green tomatoes for pickling.... but I
gave up on cooking my garden tomatoes long ago... I don't do fried
green tomatoes either, I'd much rather fried eggplant, only I grill
slabs, much less oil. Pan fried eggplant can suck up oil like a
Dyson.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 20, 2020, 1:53:24 PM7/20/20
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I don't drink tea, it's pond water. I don't drink Cola either, I
prefer Sprite with my Crystal Palace. The only time I drink tea it's
hot tea at a Chinese restaurant, goes well with Fly Lice.... one of my
favorite dishes is Fly Lice drowned in Lobster Sauce.
Iced tea is disgusting, iced coffee is doubly disgusting.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 20, 2020, 2:03:57 PM7/20/20
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Bruce

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Jul 20, 2020, 2:55:40 PM7/20/20
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Yes, of course but that's not what Snag wrote <spit>

Hank Rogers

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Jul 20, 2020, 3:42:50 PM7/20/20
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Speaking of disgusting Popeye ...


Hank Rogers

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Jul 20, 2020, 3:44:08 PM7/20/20
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<SNIFF>


jay

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Jul 20, 2020, 5:39:41 PM7/20/20
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I fully agree with the wall of words. ◑‿◐

Home grown tomatoes are one of my favorite fruits. I would grow some but
the farmers market has such nice ones and they are cheaper than putting
in a garden.

cshenk

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Jul 20, 2020, 7:06:46 PM7/20/20
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Snag wrote:

> On 7/18/2020 10:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> > >
> > > There were 6 beautiful Roma's red and ripe for picking this
> > > morning ... they ended up in a big ol' pot of spaghetti sauce
> > >
> > > Snag
> > >
> > A couple of those 6 ready for picking would have ended up being
> > chomped by me with a sprinkle of salt before being consumed.
> >
>
> Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're
> not particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very
> little juice . There are however several Rutgers tomato plants out
> there , and there are some half-ripe fruits on some of them . I see
> some BLT's coming in a week or so . Fresh tomatoes and bacon are two
> of my wife's favorite foods ... I kinda like 'em too !

My lettuce is dying off in the heat. I'll wait to end August and
replant it. Normally can crop until November here.

cshenk

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Jul 20, 2020, 7:11:59 PM7/20/20
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Gary wrote:

> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> > I don't cook my home growns, then what was the point when I can buy
> > whole canned and canned crushed.
>
> Home grown tomatoes are best for everything. Even homegrown
> chopped and frozen until winter are so superior to any
> canned tomatoes.

I do that too when I have a glut. I just wash and put in a ziplock.
On defrosting, the skins slip right off easily.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 20, 2020, 7:40:27 PM7/20/20
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 9:10:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > Snag wrote:
>>
>> > >Roma tomatoes are intended for cooking in sauces and such . They're not
>> > >particularly good as a slicing tomato ... very meaty and very little
>> > >juice.
>> >
>> > I find ripe Romas to be one of the best slicing tomatoes, they don't
>> > become a puddle.
>>
>> In my opinion, they are the only good grocery store tomatoes.
>> Good for any use. The nicer large tomatoes often have hard
>> cores (the ones from the stores)
>>
>> I'd love to try fresh from the garden Romas.
>
>They're quite good. Before I gave up on growing tomatoes, I'd >plant
>Romas and (usually) Brandywines.

I see around the 'net that brandywines or cherry tomatoes are the best for making tomato wine too, Cindy.

songbird

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Jul 20, 2020, 8:26:53 PM7/20/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
...
> We have our own reusable plastic bottles that we fill with RO H2O;
> Reverse Osmosis filtered water. We have these in the quart size:

drinking RO water is also fairly stupid.

a body needs minerals...


songbird

songbird

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Jul 20, 2020, 8:26:55 PM7/20/20
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i don't enjoy the taste of metal or plastic
that many commercial canned tomatoes have.

we put ours in glass quart jars and they're
shelf stable for a few years with nothing else
needing to be added. no funky plastic or
metal taste either.


songbird

Bruce

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Jul 20, 2020, 9:01:14 PM7/20/20
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:52:45 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:
Now you've done it. Do you live in a goat barn by any chance?

Bryan Simmons

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Jul 22, 2020, 7:46:27 PM7/22/20
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On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 12:37:15 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Home grown tomatoes are a waste of time and effort if you're going to
> cook them. Canned tomatoes are just as good if not better, cost less,
> and no labor.

While I agree than home canning them is impractical, cooking fresh ones can be great. A few days ago, I made BBQ sauce from garden (cherry) tomatoes, a serrano pepper, and a bunch of other ingredients, including a little bottled black cherry juice. I think I went too heavy on the apple cider vinegar (I should have used half apple cider vinegar and half distilled vinegar), brown sugar and mustard powder, and a little tamarind might have improved it, but it was pretty good for a first attempt.

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons

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Jul 22, 2020, 8:03:06 PM7/22/20
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I agree. Just crumble bacon on a lettuce and halved cherry tomato salad. You don't even need a lot of bacon, just a lot of tomatoes. You don't really even need the bacon if you whip up a dressing with lemon juice, good oil, a raw egg yolk and some Asiago (or Parmesan), with a little black pepper, anchovy paste and salt.
>
>
> songbird

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons

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Jul 22, 2020, 8:19:31 PM7/22/20
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Whether or not one needs the minerals for health, purified water is less aesthetically appealing. IMO, the best tasting water comes from deep wells in the Missouri and Arkansas Ozarks. When we go camping, we bring empty jugs to fill up at the state park for drinking. https://mostateparks.com/park/echo-bluff-state-park
>
> songbird

--Bryan

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 23, 2020, 8:14:21 AM7/23/20
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With all those other ingredients no one could tell whether they were
home grown or canned. If you have a glut of home growns canning home
made BBQ sauce is an option but I'd not choose to use home growns in a
recipe like that unless I had more than could be eaten fresh, and I
had a lot of time to waste reducing all the water gently without
caramelizing them. For me I'd rather give my excess homegrowns to
someone who'd appreciate them rather than cooking them... especially
since reducing the excess water in fresh tomatoes requires a lot of
time and labor as you'd need to remove the skins and seeds.... whole
canned tomatoes with skins already removed are readily available for
cheap, and removing the seeds with a food mill is a lot easier than
peeling and coring.
I've learned not to grow more tomatoes (and other crops) than I can
use fresh. Just because I have space to grow fifty heads of cabbage I
limit myself to growing no more than a dozen, and still I give some
away. Cabbage grows very well in our cool weather, 10+ pound heads
are usual, what would I do with 100 pounds of cole slaw? I use at
least half for cabbage soup and some for stuffed cabbage cooked in the
same pot as those freeze well. I tried making kim chi but I don't
care for it. I use the sweet cabbage centers in tossed salads and I
like to eat the cabbage hearts with just a bit of kosher salt, I first
pare away the bitter outter portion.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 23, 2020, 8:22:17 AM7/23/20
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We have deep well water but this being an agricultural area farmers
use a lot of chemicals and live stock waste adds plenty of minerals
and germs... our drinking water is RO filtered and all our water is
treated with UV... Dermatologists are wealthy enough.

jay

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Jul 23, 2020, 9:47:14 AM7/23/20
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Very true!

One of our wells is drilled around 700 feet deep and hits static water
around 500 feet. Best water ever! RO water tastes very flat and 25
percent of the filtered water is wasted down the drain.

Maintaining a deep water well is expensive though. There is a lot of
labor expense in pulling the well head for repair or replacement since
it comes out in 20 foot sections and of course those that do this work
know very "well" how to charge for it. :(

U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 23, 2020, 10:47:12 AM7/23/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:14:16 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
There are many, many food preparations that call for the entirety of
the tomato. The recipe needs the juice of the tomato to provide a
tasty liquid. I have no idea why you think all tomatoes must have the
juice cooked away and caramelized to be useful. I heard that those
tomato pastes and sauces was where all the 'mystery' tomatoes that
were bruised and rotten went. :))
Janet US

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 23, 2020, 11:01:59 AM7/23/20
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No one with a functioning brain believes your water well is 700 ft
deep and another at 500' deep... the typical residential water well is
about 100'... at 700' someone was drilling for oil off shore.

I don't believe yoose two pinheads have any well... yoose moroons are
drinking typical bottled water, comes from a gas station hose bib.
I've had well water most of my life, on Lung Guyland it was a 2" well
about 90' into the aquafer. Here we have two wells, the one we use at
home is a 4" well 120 feet deep. A second well is an 8" high capacity
well that's about 100 feet deep that was originally for agri use
(irrigation), Yields 23 gallons per minute we use it for our garden
and for washing our tractors... it was recently fitted with a new
self-draining pressure tank so we don't need to mess with it for
winters other than turning it off at the circuit breaker and emptying
the pressure tank. I know a lot about water wells, if you claim a
700' and 500' deep wells they have to be Pinochio Brand wells.
Submersable pumps that can bring water to the surface from those
depths would cost many thousands of dollars and have a monel point and
screen.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 23, 2020, 11:24:35 AM7/23/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:47:05 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:
You need to have your hearing checked. The big name brand canners do
not risk using rotten product. Most farm stands sell damaged fruit
(drops) for cheap but there's nothing wrong with them other than
appearance. All farms and orchards sell drops, that's what's used for
sauce and cider. Check the label, all are USDA inspected. I buy my
eggs at market because they are USDA inspected... neighbors will gift
us eggs from their chickens but we won't take them because their
operation is not USDA inspected. In many areas unless over 500
chickens they are not required to be USDA inspected.

jay

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Jul 23, 2020, 11:39:35 AM7/23/20
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To start with the well is about 700 ft deep static water in that hole is
about 500 feet. I have another well and the depth of that well is not
even mentioned in the post.

Plain English must not be yoose native language.


"Wells in Northeastern New Mexico and Southeaster Colorado Typically
Range between 150’ to 750' "

FAQ number one here:

http://macksdrilling.com/faq/

This well has three 500 gallon pressure tanks and I never have to drain
them since they are about 20 feet in the ground.

You know a lot less than you think about water wells but probably more
than you know about cooking. You do have a lot of information stored in
yoose old pin head but it is usually wrong. ahahaha

Yes a replacement pump installed in a 700 foot hole is just under 10K.
Just the copper wire to get to it cost almost as much as a Kuthe gutter.



U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 23, 2020, 11:49:18 AM7/23/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:24:30 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
No, Sheldon. Those tomato pastes come from the same place that
produce mystery meat. LOL
In any event, tomatoes are by far the easiest thing to can. For you,
coming from the big city I suppose it was always easier to go out and
buy what you wanted.
I used to go out to the farmers ranches and buy bushels of tomatoes,
cucumbers, apples, apricots, peaches and more. I don't remember all
the stuff I canned back then. That's the way I was brought up. Now
it is just me and my husband and we don't eat much and it is just the
easiest to go buy a little bit of whatever. I still will can or
freeze the extra produce from my garden. I know for sure that my
frozen tomatoes and corn taste different and better than that I buy.
Janet US

Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 1:46:48 PM7/23/20
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> Typically Range between 150’ to 750' "
>
> FAQ number one here:
>
> http://macksdrilling.com/faq/
>
> This well has three 500 gallon pressure tanks and I never have to
> drain them since they are about 20 feet in the ground.
>
> You know a lot less than you think about water wells but probably
> more than you know about cooking. You do have a lot of information
> stored in yoose old pin head but it is usually wrong. ahahaha
>
> Yes a replacement pump installed in a 700 foot hole is just under
> 10K. Just the copper wire to get to it cost almost as much as a
> Kuthe gutter.
>
>

Heh, Popeye thinks the whole world is zactly like brooklyn.

Push him a little harder, and maybe you can get him to call yoose a
liar and a faggot. :)


Sheldon Martin

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Jul 23, 2020, 2:12:36 PM7/23/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:49:11 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
You're full of donkey doo doo. you've never ever made tomato paste.

Sheldon Martin

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:49:11 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
I doubt you have a vegetable garden, I've not see a picture of it.

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 23, 2020, 2:15:28 PM7/23/20
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Jay Pinochio.

jay

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Jul 23, 2020, 2:59:21 PM7/23/20
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Pretty sure she posted a picture back before you got your peepers
changed. LOL

U.S. Janet B.

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:12:32 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
You're absolutely right. Why would I spend time, effort to make
something that I can buy for less than a half dollar.?
Janet US

U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 23, 2020, 3:10:39 PM7/23/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:13:59 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
That's because your mind is failing. I've shown my garden every time
you say you haven't seen it.
Janet US

U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 23, 2020, 3:40:06 PM7/23/20
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pretty much every year I post a link. This year I have no garden.
Just tomato plants and cucumbers plants. All in cages. Oh, and one
zucchini plant. The weather here was too cold, windy, off and on
hot/cold/pounding down rain. I finally gave up with trying to plant
halfway through June.
Janet US

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 23, 2020, 4:42:21 PM7/23/20
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Like? Seriously? ... seriously? Really? Or any of you, either? ... since we've not personally seen your very full names (and not just your spouse's name) on the property deeds of the places you're taking pictues of (if those are even them?
Would you really like to go there?)

Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 5:17:07 PM7/23/20
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Popeye, I lived in arizona a while. Yoose wouldn't believe the well
pumps and irrigation equipment they had. It sure as hell ain't
Brooklyn. That shit hole is all yoose knows.




Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 5:18:29 PM7/23/20
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Popeye, pour me a tall glass of that crystal palace!


Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 5:19:53 PM7/23/20
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Popeye, yoose ain't got a pecker. Yoose never posted a pic. So

Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 5:22:06 PM7/23/20
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Popeye will jump in your shit till you grow something and post pics.


Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 5:24:30 PM7/23/20
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All you can do is wait for the old cocksucker to die, then go to
the funeral. You'll have to stand in line to piss on his grave. It
will be a very long line.




Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 7:41:40 PM7/23/20
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Popeye is a liar, and a faggot. You'll have to get used to that.

Gay people are ok. but Popeye makes it an issue. He's gay himself,
but closeted. Even his brother is queer.








U.S. Janet B.

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Jul 23, 2020, 10:21:07 PM7/23/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:24:27 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
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I can't stand in a long line, my bladder is too weak. ;))
Janet US

Hank Rogers

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Jul 23, 2020, 10:52:13 PM7/23/20
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Hahahaha ... In that case, just piss on the old bastard a little
each day. By the time he dies, if you've urinated at least 10
gallons on him, you get your funeral ticket punched without
actually attending the ceremony to piss in his face.





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