Being offline is the new luxury

[John Kuthe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBFoV6jn79c&t=2183s

I do not want a SmartPhone, I do not need a SmartPhone, ands I will NEVER HAVE A SMARTPHONE, because SmartPhones are STUPID SPY DEVICES!

I have a $5/mo FlipPhone via PureTalk.com with 80mins a month for Remote Calls if and when I need it! But no iAnything! Fuck IAnything!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Oops, I forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBFoV6jn79c&t=2183s

:-)

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

Yoose a lucky lunatic! Just last month the supreme court ruled that
you cannot be forced to buy a telephone of any kind!

You still have to pay taxes though.

[Alex]

Yes, you are so dumb you forgot you posted that link.  See above. This
is your brain on drugs.  Any questions?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 8:26:19 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>

> I do not want a SmartPhone, I do not need a SmartPhone, ands I will NEVER HAVE A SMARTPHONE, because SmartPhones are STUPID SPY DEVICES!
>

> John Kuthe...
>
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You told us this more than once. Drag up another dead
subject and post about that, too.

[Bruce]

So you notice other people's repetitions but not your own? Strange how
that works, isn't it?

[Hank Rogers]

I guess it's like your ass sniffing habit Gruce ... just an
automatic thing.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 10:10:13 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> So you notice other people's repetitions but not your own? Strange how
> that works, isn't it?
>

Only his are noticed. No one else beats that dead horse into the ground.
Maybe you can offer some counseling to him.

[Gary]

Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Just last month the supreme court ruled that
> you cannot be forced to buy a telephone of any kind!

Ummmm... Is that true?

Was there actually a case that wanted everyone to
be *forced* to own a telephone of some kind?

That has got to be a joke.

Call me gullible but I've not heard that.
Actually, all the news lately consists of almost
nothing except the damn virus crap.
Starts with daily death counts, then a bit of
new discoveries (often repeated daily), the occasional
normal daily news (shootings, etc) but mostly followed
by all the silly stories about how people
are coping with the isolation in ridiculous ways.

One really big question I have for anyone with an
opinion or with a hopefully true answer:

WTH is with all this urgency for healthy people waiting
in long lines for hours just to get tested? WTF?

IMO, this is the USA (in general) in a mass panic
and turned completely insane. And all this crap
is certainly not all Donald's fault.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 10:31:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

> WTH is with all this urgency for healthy people waiting
> in long lines for hours just to get tested? WTF?

To see if they are asymptomatic carriers of the virus.
Or to see if they have antibodies, meaning they had the virus
without knowing it and are now perhaps (just perhaps) immune.

Cindy Hamilton

[Taxed and Spent]

Or to be exposed to the virus while waiting in line.

[Gary]

Even if your test shows virus free, the very next time
you go to a store or anywhere around people, your test
result is moot.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5EC2A74B...@att.net...

===

I think it would be more useful if it could show those who are immune.

--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

[dsi1]

Covid-19 is like learning about analog color TV: you think you know how it works but the more you look into it, the more you realize that you don't know shit.

[S Viemeister]

On 5/18/2020 4:22 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>    I think it would be more useful if it could show those who are immune.
>

Yes. I _may_ have had it, but without confirmation from the antibody
test, I'd really prefer to stay away from any form of public transport.

[Dave Smith]

This stuff is way too confusing for me. I just read that up to 50% of
the people who have Covid19 have no symptoms and aren't even aware that
they have it. Some studies showed that presymptomatic individuals passed
the virus on to others.


At any rate, I gather that the reason for testing so many people is to
help track the sources. If they get people who are recently infected it
is easier for them to trace their contacts and find the others who may
have contracted it and get them into isolation before they pass it on.

[Dave Smith]

One of the problems with Covid19 is that they information we get keeps
changing. I saw a video the other day where a woman talked about all the
facts that he have been told about the virus. It is pretty funny the way
she says one thing that we have all heard and then follows it
immediately with something contradictory that we have been told.

[Gary]

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> At any rate, I gather that the reason for testing so many people is to
> help track the sources. If they get people who are recently infected it
> is easier for them to trace their contacts and find the others who may
> have contracted it and get them into isolation before they pass it on.

This virus is everywhere.
No avoiding those little evil ones forever no matter what
precautions are taken, imo. Sooner or later it will
get you too.

The healther people won't get too sick or even know they
get it...minor symptoms. Others will get very sick
like any virus can make you feel (I've had a few)
and recover after a few very miserable days.
And as always, any virus will kill off some weaker
people with bad health issues to start with.

Many of the risky people are the main ones to get
flu shots each year. This virus has no vaccination
yet so it's killing more weak people than usual.

All of the stastics reported are not quite accurate either.
The numbers used are correct but they don't report all the
numbers that should be taken into consideration.

The USA is in a major hypochondria meltdown, imo.

[dsi1]

Most people will suffer from asymptomatic pneumonia which leads to reduced oxygen levels in their blood for up to 10 days which sets the stage for permanent lung damage which also helps sets the stage for total organ and system collapse. By the time you feel sick, you're already knocking on Heaven's door.

A lot of folks won't ever go to the hospital but they'll suffer respiratory problems long after this all blows over. My guess is that people should get something like this and monitor their O2 levels daily:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Finger-Pulse-Oximeter-Blood-Oxygen-SpO2-Monitor-PR-PI-Respiratory-Rate-FDA-CE/353076569203

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:a03dc12e-ab1e-4b9f...@googlegroups.com...

==

LOL true:))

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:hifov2...@mid.individual.net...

===

Too right!!!!!

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-05-18 12:44 p.m., Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> At any rate, I gather that the reason for testing so many people is to
>> help track the sources. If they get people who are recently infected it
>> is easier for them to trace their contacts and find the others who may
>> have contracted it and get them into isolation before they pass it on.
>
> This virus is everywhere.
> No avoiding those little evil ones forever no matter what
> precautions are taken, imo. Sooner or later it will
> get you too.
>
> The healther people won't get too sick or even know they
> get it...minor symptoms. Others will get very sick
> like any virus can make you feel (I've had a few)
> and recover after a few very miserable days.
> And as always, any virus will kill off some weaker
> people with bad health issues to start with.

Not all of the healthy people survive. I knew one who seemed to be in
great shape and he died of it. It has become an issue in our town
because he and another town council member were at a council meeting in
person when they could have done it online. He came down with the virus
and died. The other guy manages a grocery store and he ended up testing
positive and had been going to work.

People in town are furious with him and business in his store has
dropped off to almost nothing. They are blaming him for the other guys
death, assuming that he had passed it on at the meeting, and that he
might have passed it on to his staff and customers.

He eventually released a statement in which he claimed to have been
contacted by public health and to tell him he had been in contact with
someone who had it. He immediately self isolated and got tested and was
told he had had it and was good to go back to work.

>
> Many of the risky people are the main ones to get
> flu shots each year. This virus has no vaccination
> yet so it's killing more weak people than usual.

It is wiping out large numbers of people in nursing homes and retirement
homes. In some cases half the residents of the homes have died.

>
> All of the stastics reported are not quite accurate either.
> The numbers used are correct but they don't report all the
> numbers that should be taken into consideration.
>
> The USA is in a major hypochondria meltdown, imo.
>

I don't think it is hypochondria at all. If anything, the problem is
the inconsistency of the information we we getting about symptoms and
how to avoid it, whether to wear a mask or not. When there are so many
unknowns and the consequences are so severe, you cannot be too careful.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

> This virus is everywhere.
> No avoiding those little evil ones forever no matter what
> precautions are taken, imo. Sooner or later it will
> get you too.
>
> The healther people won't get too sick or even know they
> get it...minor symptoms. Others will get very sick
> like any virus can make you feel (I've had a few)
> and recover after a few very miserable days.

Not necessarily a few days. Some people spent a month in the hospital
with it, and were still quite ill when they were discharged. Permanent
lung damage. Massive organ failure. Blood clots, leading to stroke
or amputation.

Only a fool minimizes the potential risk.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:4fd28b6c-c403-456e...@googlegroups.com...

====

Yes! That is what we have!!!!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 9:31:18 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Hank Rogers wrote:
> >
> > Just last month the supreme court ruled that
> > you cannot be forced to buy a telephone of any kind!
>
> Ummmm... Is that true?
>
> Was there actually a case that wanted everyone to
> be *forced* to own a telephone of some kind?
>
> That has got to be a joke.
>
> Call me gullible but I've not heard that.
>

Four or five years, right before Obama left office he had mandated to the
Social Security Administration that ALL seniors must have a cell phone to
be able to access their accounts. Needless to say, that went over like a
screendoor on a submarine. There was such a furor raised that SSA backed
off on that requirement. They had hoped to send a text message to your
cell phone with a numeric code which you would then use to sign in to
your account. Now they just send that numeric code to your e-mail address.

Seniors did not want to be saddled with a device that perhaps they have no
use for or to pay for that device and possibly the charge for text messages.

[Taxed and Spent]

It is not just that the healthier people will show no symptoms. It also
depends on the dose you get. A small dose will allow your body to
develop antibodies and fend it off. A larger dose will replicate faster
than your antibodies can deal with it quickly, and you get sick.

[Gary]

Give it a rest, Cindy. Only a fool runs to the store for lettuce
often after being told to stay at home and you did that and
survived. I've stayed at home mostly and skipped many frilly
grocery store trips and I've survived too. We don't need to argue
here.

[Gary]

Dave Smith wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> > Many of the risky people are the main ones to get
> > flu shots each year. This virus has no vaccination
> > yet so it's killing more weak people than usual.
>
> It is wiping out large numbers of people in nursing homes and retirement
> homes. In some cases half the residents of the homes have died.

Right and those people are the weaker variety. Combined with
the fact that they are living in a building with a high
concentration of others and windows in those homes are rarely
if ever opened.

Fresh air is your friend. Think Florence Nightingale.

I open my windows most every day.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-05-18 3:03 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> Seniors did not want to be saddled with a device that perhaps they have no
> use for or to pay for that device and possibly the charge for text messages.
>

I just got off the phone with my sister in law and she was telling me
about the smart phone that he son passed on to her. She has a simple
cell phone that she can use for emergencies. She doesn't know much about
cell phones and has had trouble figuring this one. And she is relatively
sharp for 83.

[Taxed and Spent]

This is the internet. What does "need" have to do with arguing? LOL

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Yes, they can be daunting and any new-fangled electronic device can be
hair raising especially if they were not raised in the 'electronic age.'

Back when WebTV gave the closure notice 4 months prior to them shutting
down I was a contributor along with dozens of others on a 'help group.'
Oh my, the hand wringing and gnashing of teeth and general wailing when
they were going to have to switch to a computer if they wanted internet
access was deafening. You would have thought they were being forced
onto a spaceship to Mars never to return to Earth again.

The reassuring them that most of what they had learned to do on WebTV
would transfer right over to a computer had most of them doubtful. Being
able to cut, copy, paste, do searches on the internet like they could do
with that box and writing e-mails, posting pictures, etc. had few convinced.

[Gary]

Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> It is not just that the healthier people will show no symptoms. It also
> depends on the dose you get. A small dose will allow your body to
> develop antibodies and fend it off. A larger dose will replicate faster
> than your antibodies can deal with it quickly, and you get sick.

I agree with that.

[Taxed and Spent]

Come on now. This is the internet. Nitpick and argue for crying out loud!

[Bruce]

It's hard to disagree with facts. Unless you're orange and have a
guinea pig on your head.

[Bruce]

The Chinese created it by eating bat sushi. Don't you think they know
all about it? I mean, they're the Chinese!

[Bruce]

On Mon, 18 May 2020 19:46:22 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Does it put a needle in your finger?

[Bruce]

Nothing escapes you, does it?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:44:28 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> At any rate, I gather that the reason for testing so many people is to
>> help track the sources. If they get people who are recently infected it
>> is easier for them to trace their contacts and find the others who may
>> have contracted it and get them into isolation before they pass it on.
>
>This virus is everywhere.
>No avoiding those little evil ones forever no matter what
>precautions are taken, imo. Sooner or later it will
>get you too.
>
>The healther people won't get too sick or even know they
>get it...minor symptoms. Others will get very sick
>like any virus can make you feel (I've had a few)
>and recover after a few very miserable days.
>And as always, any virus will kill off some weaker
>people with bad health issues to start with.

You have not been paying attention. The virus also kills people with
no "bad health issues to start with", who were younger and fitter than
you or me. I bet you don't watch much TV in your armchair. You sit
down and doze off.

>Many of the risky people are the main ones to get
>flu shots each year. This virus has no vaccination
>yet so it's killing more weak people than usual.
>
>All of the stastics reported are not quite accurate either.
>The numbers used are correct but they don't report all the
>numbers that should be taken into consideration.

When people die from Covid at home, they're often not counted. And
that's the western world. I bet the Russians have 10 times more cases
than they're telling the world. Putin must be seen as in control, even
though he's not orange and doesn't have a guinea pig on his head.

>The USA is in a major hypochondria meltdown, imo.

For good reason.

[Bruce]

In your own home, when you live on your own, opening windows doesn't
make any difference. Don't be daft, dude. Just because it's free
doesn't mean it helps.

[Bruce]

Some people had mild symptoms, but had them for one or two months.

[Bruce]

First you call her a fool and then you say you don't need to argue.
Make up your mind.

[Hank Rogers]

Good whiffing there Druce?

[dsi1]

I have 4 of them and passed them out to people that should have them. One of them being me.

[dsi1]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 3:26:19 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBFoV6jn79c&t=2183s
>
> I do not want a SmartPhone, I do not need a SmartPhone, ands I will NEVER HAVE A SMARTPHONE, because SmartPhones are STUPID SPY DEVICES!
>
> I have a $5/mo FlipPhone via PureTalk.com with 80mins a month for Remote Calls if and when I need it! But no iAnything! Fuck IAnything!
>
> John Kuthe...

You're not quite offline yet. My guess is that your best bet is to get off of broadband and switch to dial-up.

My daughter took a test online for her veterinary class. She was having trouble moving over from the video conferencing app on to the test section. After a while, her teacher texted her and told her to turn off her microphone because she was swearing up a storm.

Evidently, this turning off the mic problem happens frequently. My son was taking a video conferencing class and the whole class got treated to the teacher's rant at a drugstore that messed up her order for hydroxychloroquine, which she takes to treat crohn's disease. One of the students spoke up and informed her of the situation. That guy should get an "A" for the class.

[Cindy Hamilton]

When you post misinformation, I feel an obligation to correct it.

I don't "run to the store for lettuce often". A regular weekly
grocery trip takes care of my needs.

I see morons are flocking to your beaches. Take care.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I see morons are flocking to your beaches. Take care.

Yeah, I just saw that on the local news this morning.

It's all about money too, not being "nice" to people.
Memorial Weekend is one of the biggest tourist weekends
of the year.
One of the biggest "profit" weekends for the
tourist industry here (hotels, gift shops, restaurants)

I'm sure those business owners *demanded* for the beach
to be reopened.

Good luck to them all. I won't be down there in the crowds.
I'll stay home safely and continue to annoy the RFC crowd.

[Gary]

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>

> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>
> >>> WTH is with all this urgency for healthy people waiting
> >>> in long lines for hours just to get tested? WTF?
> >>
> >> To see if they are asymptomatic carriers of the virus.
> >> Or to see if they have antibodies, meaning they had the virus
> >> without knowing it and are now perhaps (just perhaps) immune.
> >

> > Or to be exposed to the virus while waiting in line.
>

> Or a bunch of exhaust that will kill you anyway.

Looks like "saving the Earth" has been put on hold too. ;)
Much more gas being burned and polluting the atmosphere.

[Bruce]

Indians can see the Himalayas again and that kind of stuff. Maybe
corona is the planet striking back.

[Cindy Hamilton]

The People's Republic of Ann Arbor has cancelled the summer
art fair (late July, typically). Businesses are up in arms
because a lot of them make their nut for the entire year
on the tourists that come just that weekend.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:fg66cf94q4jb8hl1k...@4ax.com...

===

No, you put a finger into the 'jaw' click it and you get results.

It measures pulse and oxygen.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:b13214fa-ef1f-480b...@googlegroups.com...

I have 4 of them and passed them out to people that should have them. One of
them being me.

==

Good for you:)

Yours doesn't have a needle does it?? Bruce was asking. Mine doesn't but
I just wondered!

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:2491a113-9421-4452...@googlegroups.com...

===

lol

[Mike Duffy]

On Tue, 19 May 2020 06:16:19 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Or a bunch of exhaust that will kill you anyway.

+1. Two days ago I was sort of worried about Covid-19.

Yesterday, I was bitten by a black-legged deer tick.

At first, I was worried about Lyme. After I washed the bleeding wound and
called the Public Health Medical Service, they basically said not to
worry, that I am not in a danger zone. (Also to keep the tick in my
fridge for testing if I get a rash of any sort, 'just in case'.)


Later, I realized that dying from one disease would prevent me from
getting sick with the other, and there are more serious things to worry
about. (See my other thread. Scary, truly scary!)

Take Care.

[Dave Smith]

I have had a number of tick bites over the years. Everyone tells me I
need to go to the doctor, that I need to take the tick to the public
health unit. I just pick them out and kill them, usually by toasting
them with a Bic lighter or dropping them into alcohol.

A couple years ago I did succumb to pressure to go to the doctor when I
broke the abdomen off one and the head was stuck in my gut. I had tried
to get it out by squeezing and poking with a pin and tweezers like I
would with a splinter. The doctor was not concerned. He said he would
just make a mess of it so just leave it and when it heals it will pop
off with the scab. It did. It had not been engorged so there was no
problem.

[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "dsi1"wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Finger-Pulse-Oximeter-Blood-Oxygen-SpO2-Monitor-PR-PI-Respiratory-Rate-FDA-CE/353076569203

> I have 4 of them and passed them out to people that should have them. One of
> them being me.
>
> ==
>
> Good for you:)
>
> Yours doesn't have a needle does it?? Bruce was asking. Mine doesn't but
> I just wondered!

What's with a pulse and oxygen meter? It sounds like another
worthless gadget sold on a late night TV informertial.
"Only 3 easy payments of $29.95
and get a 2nd one. Just pay a separate fee."

Anyone can check their pulse just using a clock.
As far as oxygen level. Ummm. If I'm not getting enough
oxygen, my body will let me know pretty quickly.

[Gary]

Mike Duffy wrote:
>
> Later, I realized that dying from one disease would prevent me from
> getting sick with the other,

lol Good point. :)
Good luck with the tick thing. Mostly likely harmless.

[Dave Smith]

I will confess to having a lot of difficulty taking my own pulse. I have
taken First Aid courses and have been through cardio rehab where we had
to take and monitor our pulse. I still have trouble. When I was doing
the rehab I bought a watch that also will read pulse. The strap fell
apart after a few years and I ended up getting a Fitbit a couple months
ago.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Huh. I can feel my pulse all over my body if I just sit quietly. No
problem counting it.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

No needle. These gadgets are completely non-invasive - unless you think that having slight pressure on your fingernail is invasive. They work by shining a light through your finger and measuring absorption levels. It turns out that these cheap devices are quite accurate. I expect a normal oxygen saturation level to be from 99 to 95 percent. If it reads below 90%, you could be in trouble or you have a chronic lung problem.

The alarming thing about the covid-19 virus is that you could have a O2 saturation level that's incompatible with sustaining life and still feel fine. How that works is not known. That's God for you - always playing tricks on men.

[dsi1]

Okay grandpa, nobody's gonna make you do anything you don't want to.

[jmcquown]

Last month it was announced Munich, Germany announced they have
cancelled Oktoberfest:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-21/munich-s-famed-oktoberfest-beer-fair-canceled-over-virus-fears

"Munich Mayor Dieter Reiter said the event -- this year due to take
place between Sept. 19 and Oct. 4 -- brings in around 1.2 billion euros
($1.3 billion) for local businesses and that hotels, restaurants and
taxi drivers would especially suffer.

Better to err on the side of caution.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:47:30 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:fg66cf94q4jb8hl1k...@4ax.com...
>
>On Mon, 18 May 2020 19:46:22 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"dsi1" wrote in message
>>news:4fd28b6c-c403-456e...@googlegroups.com...
>>

>>Most people will suffer from asymptomatic pneumonia which leads to reduced
>>oxygen levels in their blood for up to 10 days which sets the stage for
>>permanent lung damage which also helps sets the stage for total organ and
>>system collapse. By the time you feel sick, you're already knocking on
>>Heaven's door.
>>
>>A lot of folks won't ever go to the hospital but they'll suffer respiratory
>>problems long after this all blows over. My guess is that people should get
>>something like this and monitor their O2 levels daily:
>>
>>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Finger-Pulse-Oximeter-Blood-Oxygen-SpO2-Monitor-PR-PI-Respiratory-Rate-FDA-CE/353076569203
>>
>>====
>>
>> Yes! That is what we have!!!!
>
>Does it put a needle in your finger?
>
>===
>
> No, you put a finger into the 'jaw' click it and you get results.
>
>It measures pulse and oxygen.

Great, I ordered one.

[Bruce]

No, it might not. Most people who go to hospital with Covid symptoms
are already in very bad shape. An oxygen meter can tell you a couple
of weeks earlier that you need medical help. You might arrive in
hospital earlier and in better shape, so they can help you better.

[Bruce]

And they're easy. There's no need to go to a hospital or doctor. The
device doesn't even need a blood sample.

[jmcquown]

On 5/19/2020 7:56 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 18 May 2020 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 wrote:
>
>
>> Covid-19 is like learning about analog color TV: you think you
>> know how it works but the more you look into it, the more you
>> realize that you don't know shit.
>

> Err, what?
>
> This is our resident Google-Fu Master?
>
> -sw
>
LOL

Jill

[jmcquown]

I can feel my heartbeat. I can feel when it's too high (stress or over
exertion). Low, normal, relaxed. Or maybe I'm just sleeping. :)

Jill

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:fbad377d-efb2-4e25...@googlegroups.com...

==

Yes, but this counts the oxygen levels in your blood. And yes, it is
accepted by the medical professionals.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 19 May 2020 15:51:56 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Does it go up with excitement when you gossip?

[Bruce]

On Tue, 19 May 2020 20:54:37 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

I bet Cindy and Jill can measure their oxygen level by listening
closely.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:68a8cft03pdknnf5o...@4ax.com...

====

Quite so!

This is the one we have:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oximeter-Display-Carrycase-Batteries-Lanyard/dp/B002MEUFKW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=IZRIVFIEZ3TK&dchild=1&keywords=biosync+oximeter&qid=1589918071&sprefix=biosync+oximeter%2Caps%2C252&sr=8-3

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:151c8859-f3f9-4b60...@googlegroups.com...

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OK I was just wondering if his was different to mine:)

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:jda8cf910m4ono28v...@4ax.com...

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Yes. D. tests us every day!

[Taxed and Spent]

Have any of you left it on while you sleep to see if you have sleep
apnea or something?

[Hank Rogers]

They can't hear it thunder, what with all your sniffing right
behind them.

[Hank Rogers]

Quick take a big whiff Druce!

[dsi1]

You and squrits is wrong - as usual. When I was going to electronics school, there was no Google. Yoose guys are like that coyote in those Roadrunner cartoons. Better luck next time.

Once again squartz, we see that there is nothing you can posses that I cannot take away.

[Ophelia]

"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message news:ra1f6j$hkk$1...@dont-email.me...

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I haven't!!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 19 May 2020 21:00:45 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Ours is another brand but it looks the same.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:n1j8cfhsp9asr65qi...@4ax.com...

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Aye stick your finger in, clip it on and press the wee button!

Have you tried it on different fingers? My right middle fingers gives a
better reading than my left lol

[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:
>
> Have you tried it on different fingers? My right middle fingers gives a
> better reading than my left lol

As for the pulse part, I've always read that you should never
take someone elses pulse using your thumb as your thumb has
a pulse and can mess up the readings.

I would think using that gadget would work better on
your thumb (for your own pulse) ?

Just a thought. Did you read all the instructions?

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 May 2020 12:28:39 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:n1j8cfhsp9asr65qi...@4ax.com...

>
>>No, it might not. Most people who go to hospital with Covid symptoms
>>are already in very bad shape. An oxygen meter can tell you a couple
>>of weeks earlier that you need medical help. You might arrive in
>>hospital earlier and in better shape, so they can help you better.
>>
>>====
>>
>> Quite so!
>>
>> This is the one we have:
>>
>>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oximeter-Display-Carrycase-Batteries-Lanyard/dp/B002MEUFKW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=IZRIVFIEZ3TK&dchild=1&keywords=biosync+oximeter&qid=1589918071&sprefix=biosync+oximeter%2Caps%2C252&sr=8-3
>
>Ours is another brand but it looks the same.
>
>===
>
> Aye stick your finger in, clip it on and press the wee button!
>
> Have you tried it on different fingers? My right middle fingers gives a
>better reading than my left lol

Lol, I guess humans aren't symmetrical. Ours was shipped today. Could
take a bit longer than normal.

[Bruce]

The main purpose is to measure your oxygen, although a high heart rate
could be an indicator of low oxygen.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> "Ophelia" wrote:
> > Have you tried it on different fingers? My right middle fingers gives a
> >better reading than my left lol
>
> Lol, I guess humans aren't symmetrical. Ours was shipped today. Could
> take a bit longer than normal.

Did you order a 2nd one too (just pay a separate fee)?

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> >I would think using that gadget would work better on
> >your thumb (for your own pulse) ?
> >
> >Just a thought. Did you read all the instructions?
>
> The main purpose is to measure your oxygen, although a high heart rate
> could be an indicator of low oxygen.

Yeah, like when you rip on a NordicTrack® for an hour.

I was talking about the pulse test only.

I never get enough oxygen. In my area, mostly what I breathe is
that darn nitrogen that hogs the air.

[dsi1]

The pulse oximeter is an important device for people that land themselves in a hospital ICU, emergency room, or any medical setting that requires patient monitoring. If you find yourself in those situations, you're going to have an oximeter clipped onto your finger.

The ones in hospitals give readings in real time and knowing O2 saturation levels in the blood is a pretty basic need in patient care. The invention of this non-invasive device was a big improvement over having to take blood samples every few minutes to run tests.

[Bruce]

Why would I do that?

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5EC5162C...@att.net...

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Yes:)) The instructions do say to use on of your middle three fingers!

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:m76acfdopm9bjh68o...@4ax.com...

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Yes. I am only interested in the oxygen reading.

[Leo]

On 2020 May 19, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in article<eced4ba9-18cc-4d7a...@googlegroups.com>):

> The People's Republic of Ann Arbor has cancelled the summer
> art fair (late July, typically). Businesses are up in arms
> because a lot of them make their nut for the entire year
> on the tourists that come just that weekend.

If the “morons” at Virginia Beach and other places don’t spike the
infection/mortality count in the next couple of weeks, the PRAA may be
obliged to rescind their cancellation or face more aggressive “morons”
at City Hall in Ann Arbor. Time will tell sooner rather than later.
Experiments succeed or fail.

leo

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 May 2020 17:40:22 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

It's a very subtle balance between health and economy and we'll know
afterwards what was the wisest approach.

What certainly is not wise is pulling out your guns and start marching
through the city like a bunch of hooligans, quoting some precious
amendment. Those people are moronic beyond hope.

[Leo]

On 2020 May 20, , Bruce wrote
(in article<bgmbcflpbpmdqd1lq...@4ax.com>):

> It's a very subtle balance between health and economy and we'll know
> afterwards what was the wisest approach.

Yep.

> What certainly is not wise is pulling out your guns and start marching
> through the city like a bunch of hooligans, quoting some precious
> amendment. Those people are moronic beyond hope.

Not one soul pulled out a gun or threatened anyone with one. The fact that
guns were worn reminds politicians that they are the servants of, and not
the dictators to, the people. They hate that.
By the way, I’m certain that most of the Nazi flag, skinhead, racial
ranting, etc, are done by Democrat operatives to djinn up their base while
a slavering media reports the atrocities. This happens anytime there is an
important controversy with Republicans involved.
The Dem-Ops party busses show up, the fake skinheads disgorge and scream
racial epithets while waving shocking flags and causing trouble. The media
never digs deeper. It’s called a “false flag” operation. I see them
every day in Democrat discourse. The public eats it up.

leo

[Bruce]

On Wed, 20 May 2020 19:24:56 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On 2020 May 20, , Bruce wrote
>(in article<bgmbcflpbpmdqd1lq...@4ax.com>):
>
>> It's a very subtle balance between health and economy and we'll know
>> afterwards what was the wisest approach.
>
>Yep.
>
>> What certainly is not wise is pulling out your guns and start marching
>> through the city like a bunch of hooligans, quoting some precious
>> amendment. Those people are moronic beyond hope.
>
>Not one soul pulled out a gun or threatened anyone with one. The fact that
>guns were worn reminds politicians that they are the servants of, and not
>the dictators to, the people. They hate that.

They all look like they have one brain cell and like they're not
responsible enough to even have that gun safely behind lock and key at
home. Also, much as I don't like politicians, I'd rather have them in
power than these ferals.

>By the way, I’m certain that most of the Nazi flag, skinhead, racial
>ranting, etc, are done by Democrat operatives to djinn up their base while
>a slavering media reports the atrocities. This happens anytime there is an
>important controversy with Republicans involved.
>The Dem-Ops party busses show up, the fake skinheads disgorge and scream
>racial epithets while waving shocking flags and causing trouble. The media
>never digs deeper. It’s called a “false flag” operation. I see them
>every day in Democrat discourse. The public eats it up.

You don't know that. You just want to believe that because it suits
your agenda.

[Leo]

On 2020 May 20, , Bruce wrote

(in article<97qbcfh23taai65um...@4ax.com>):

> You don't know that. You just want to believe that because it suits
> your agenda.

General Flynn is the perfect example of a false flag operation. Wait and
see.

leo

[Taxed and Spent]

The nazi flags, etc. are not indicative of the viewpoints of the
protesters. They are the protesters making the case that those being
protested are acting like nazis, etc.

[Gary]

Leo wrote:
>
> If the morons at Virginia Beach and other places don't spike
> the infection/mortality count in the next couple of weeks,

Using Virginia Beach as an example, a spike in Covid from this
weekend won't show up here. Any people that come here for the
holiday weekend will go back to where ever they came from
and then get sick there later on. The tourists come from far
and wide - even hundreds of miles away.

I suspect that during or after this weekend, local news will
report a serious lack of tourists this year, as compared to
normal years.

Probably low volume of tourists all summer long this year.

Next huge tourist time will be 4th of July weekend, and then
finally Labor Day weekend in September.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> Leo wrote:
> >Not one soul pulled out a gun or threatened anyone with one. The fact that
> >guns were worn reminds politicians that they are the servants of, and not
> >the dictators to, the people. They hate that.
>
> They all look like they have one brain cell and like they're not
> responsible enough to even have that gun safely behind lock and key at
> home.

Ummm... you don't know what they do with their guns at home.
They are carrying them when you see them on the news.
And they aren't the criminals that use guns for crime.
Nobody buys a gun just to keep it locked up at home 24/7

Also, much as I don't like politicians, I'd rather have them
in power than these ferals.

<shaking head> Biased much?

>

> You just want to believe that because it suits
> your agenda.

Same as you, little buddy.
You come across here as a very messed up child that doesn't
have a clue about the real world that you live in.
You need to learn to accept many different lifestyles
other than your own.

Next time you go to town, buy a couple of cheeseburgers,
a decent gun and some extra toilet paper. Be a man and
not such a damn crybaby about *everything*.

[Bruce]

Do you have single-tooth, armed morons marching to the city, invoking
their God given freedom and any amendment they can remember, in
Virginia Beach?

[Bruce]

On Thu, 21 May 2020 07:27:16 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Leo wrote:
>> >Not one soul pulled out a gun or threatened anyone with one. The fact that
>> >guns were worn reminds politicians that they are the servants of, and not
>> >the dictators to, the people. They hate that.
>>
>> They all look like they have one brain cell and like they're not
>> responsible enough to even have that gun safely behind lock and key at
>> home.
>
>Ummm... you don't know what they do with their guns at home.

Nor do I want to know.

>They are carrying them when you see them on the news.
>And they aren't the criminals that use guns for crime.
>Nobody buys a gun just to keep it locked up at home 24/7

They look like the last people who should own a gun.

>>Also, much as I don't like politicians, I'd rather have them
>>in power than these ferals.
>
><shaking head> Biased much?

Shit, yeah!

>> You just want to believe that because it suits
>> your agenda.
>
>Same as you, little buddy.
>You come across here as a very messed up child that doesn't
>have a clue about the real world that you live in.
>You need to learn to accept many different lifestyles
>other than your own.

My lifestyle and views are different from yours. Accept that. And keep
that arm down.

>Next time you go to town, buy a couple of cheeseburgers,
>a decent gun and some extra toilet paper. Be a man and
>not such a damn crybaby about *everything*.

Says the man who travels from his armchair and hugs ferrets.

[Pamela]

By the same logic, the guns they were carrying indicate those being protested
against were gun-toting hoodlums.

Hold on ... that's not quite right.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Everybody forgets the Third Amendment.

Cindy Hamilton