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Strawberries aren’t berries

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Ed P

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Apr 13, 2023, 10:16:50 PM4/13/23
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Strawberries aren’t berries

Neither are raspberries and blackberries, according to botanists. True
berries stem from one single-ovary flower and have two or more seeds.
Strawberries don’t fit that bill, but bananas, kiwis, and watermelon do.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 13, 2023, 10:35:22 PM4/13/23
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Well that settles it once and for all. No more strawberries for me.

Bruce

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Apr 14, 2023, 12:07:11 AM4/14/23
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They're full of chemicals and might offer protection against covid!

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 14, 2023, 12:12:45 AM4/14/23
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Bruce wrote:

> >Well that settles it once and for all. No more strawberries for me.
> They're full of chemicals and might offer protection against covid!


I have some kind of natural immunity to covid and it's beginning
to piss me off. I have tried to get it. I have asked full-blown covid
sufferers to cough in my face. Some refused, others delivered.
But no matter how many delivered I never received. I guess I'm
just one hell of a naturally strong human. At the same time I feel
like I'm going to die soon. You see, covid itself offers protection
against other even worse diseases. It's like a big bully living inside
you. An alpha germ that keeps other horrific germs away from you.
Then one day the alpha germ runs out of new germs to eat. That is
when it turns on you.

Bruce

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Apr 14, 2023, 12:40:53 AM4/14/23
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The pharmacist who gave us our last covid shot was surprised to hear
we hadn't had covid yet. He didn't know many novids. But I don't think
we're immune. We live a bit away from people and see more kangaroos.
Maybe we'll get kangaroo flu one day and we'll develop a pouch.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Apr 14, 2023, 12:42:22 AM4/14/23
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I'm not sure about blackberries, but strawberries have their seeds on the
outside, the flesh of the fruit if you will, and not inside like apples.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 14, 2023, 1:08:24 AM4/14/23
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Bruce wrote:

> The pharmacist who gave us our last covid shot was surprised to hear
> we hadn't had covid yet. He didn't know many novids. But I don't think
> we're immune. We live a bit away from people and see more kangaroos.
> Maybe we'll get kangaroo flu one day and we'll develop a pouch.


I'm a long haul kangaroo flu guy. It's the worst. Regular covid can
be bad but it's nothing compared to K-flu.

Speaking of pharmacists, I went to my doctor today. I go for only
one purpose, to re-up my valium supply. He keeps trying to force
blood pressure meds on me. At first I resisted. Then I accepted
the scripts but never cashed them in.

So today he writes me two scripts, one for valium, the other
for the BP med Lisinopril. When I got the pharmacy the woman
says, "The diazepam is ready but the Lisinopril isn't filled yet."
I said, "That's fine, I don't need the Lisinopril, I just accept the
script to keep my doctor happy." And she says without joking,
"As a medical care provider I don't appreciate that", or something
to that effect. What was funny was the intro, "As a.............", which
is one a lot of people use when they're getting ready to launch
an opinion as if what their profession somehow qualifies them
for additional attention. I'm sick of these care providers playing
savior. Even the weather people, the news people in general, are
now calling them "Our First Informers", all part of the First Responder
game.

I have not taken the shot and won't no matter what. I am not anti
social but I was practicing social distancing before it had a name.
So I admit the reason I haven't had covid or the flu in decades is
because I'm not up close and lovey dovey with a lot of people.

Bruce

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Apr 14, 2023, 1:34:57 AM4/14/23
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:08:21 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm a long haul kangaroo flu guy. It's the worst. Regular covid can
>be bad but it's nothing compared to K-flu.
>
>Speaking of pharmacists, I went to my doctor today. I go for only
>one purpose, to re-up my valium supply. He keeps trying to force
>blood pressure meds on me. At first I resisted. Then I accepted
>the scripts but never cashed them in.
>
>So today he writes me two scripts, one for valium, the other
>for the BP med Lisinopril. When I got the pharmacy the woman
>says, "The diazepam is ready but the Lisinopril isn't filled yet."
>I said, "That's fine, I don't need the Lisinopril, I just accept the
>script to keep my doctor happy." And she says without joking,
>"As a medical care provider I don't appreciate that", or something
>to that effect. What was funny was the intro, "As a.............", which
>is one a lot of people use when they're getting ready to launch
>an opinion as if what their profession somehow qualifies them
>for additional attention.

She would have been remiss (whatever that means) if she hadn't said
that. If you want to die, that's your business, but medical
professionals shouldn't encourage you.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 14, 2023, 2:09:40 AM4/14/23
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Bruce wrote:

> She would have been remiss (whatever that means) if she hadn't said
> that. If you want to die, that's your business, but medical
> professionals shouldn't encourage you.


I have talked to pharmacists many times and they don't all agree
with the med explosion. Some even admit to seeing it as a fraud.
Just because she works in a pharmacy doesn't mean she knows
anymore than me. After she told me she was a professional medical
care giver I told her I am an intuitive scientist (which I am), and that
I do not need the BP medication because my body told me so. I took
20 milligrams of the stuff for several years before weaning off. And
oddly enough my blood pressure not only did not go up, it even went
down. You can trust them all you want, but I can't go along with that.
It's just another business - the med thing - and it's all about numbers -
getting your A1C down or whatever, cholesterol readings, BP readings
and so forth. You can hook up the world's healthiest human to a machine,
sort of like they do with cars at service stations, and you're going to find
something wrong. I take no tests. Ever. I will use the hospital if I can't
breathe or am in brutal pain, not to get a bunch of tests and readings
resulting in the taking of every stinking medication under the sun. You
need to need doctors more. Maybe then you'll find out you're dealing
with mostly a bunch of stupid kids who passed just enough exams to
get through the college doors with diploma in hand.

Bruce

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Apr 14, 2023, 2:56:06 AM4/14/23
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 23:09:37 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>
>> She would have been remiss (whatever that means) if she hadn't said
>> that. If you want to die, that's your business, but medical
>> professionals shouldn't encourage you.
>
>
>I have talked to pharmacists many times and they don't all agree
>with the med explosion. Some even admit to seeing it as a fraud.
>Just because she works in a pharmacy doesn't mean she knows
>anymore than me.

But she knows what your doctor prescribed and your doctor knows better
than you.

>After she told me she was a professional medical
>care giver I told her I am an intuitive scientist (which I am), and that
>I do not need the BP medication because my body told me so.

I wonder what the average life expectancy for intuitive scientists is
:)

bruce bowser

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Apr 15, 2023, 11:29:42 AM4/15/23
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On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:16:50 PM UTC-4, Ed P wrote:
> Strawberries aren’t berries
>
> Neither are raspberries and blackberries, according to botanists.

But eggplant is a berry. Tomato, okra, green beans, olives and avocado are fruit.

Graham

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Apr 15, 2023, 11:58:18 AM4/15/23
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So is Greg Morrow!

GM

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Apr 15, 2023, 12:36:09 PM4/15/23
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LOL, Graham...!!!

Your comment puts a smile on my face, so many thanks...!!!

I adore okra, so that's what my fruity "avatar" will be...

;-D

--
GM

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 15, 2023, 1:58:17 PM4/15/23
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Bruce wrote:

> But she knows what your doctor prescribed and your doctor knows better
> than you.


I won't speak for your doctor but mine knows nothing. Certainly
nothing better than me. Another C student through the college
doors. How old you anyway? Yes, it matters. There are some
smart youngsters out there, but I don't think you're one of them.
Unless you're trying to be funny. So you're saying any med
prescribed by any doctor should never be questioned because
he's a doctor and he knows more than you? Fine, keep thinking
that way.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 15, 2023, 2:00:25 PM4/15/23
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Graham wrote:
bruce bowser wrote:

> But eggplant is a berry. Tomato, okra, green beans, olives and avocado are fruit.


> So is Greg Morrow!


What makes AIDS special? It's the only disease that can turn
a fruit into a vegetable.

bruce bowser

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Apr 15, 2023, 2:34:00 PM4/15/23
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I sometimes wonder why some people mix rhubarb with strawberries when making strawberry or 'strawvegetable' pie.

Bruce

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Apr 15, 2023, 3:30:07 PM4/15/23
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:58:13 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>
>> But she knows what your doctor prescribed and your doctor knows better
>> than you.
>
>
>I won't speak for your doctor but mine knows nothing. Certainly
>nothing better than me

Of course, ThoJo. ThoJo knows everything better. How could I forget?

songbird

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Apr 15, 2023, 4:54:49 PM4/15/23
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bruce bowser wrote:
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> I sometimes wonder why some people mix rhubarb with strawberries when making strawberry or 'strawvegetable' pie.

it is sometimes in season about the same time and it
can stretch the more expensive and more tasteful
ingredient.

other than the texture rhubarb has a similar enough
taste to green apples to substitute well enough.

it's also somewhat easy to grow and the deer mostly
leave it alone.


songbird

bruce bowser

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Apr 16, 2023, 11:51:23 AM4/16/23
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What's the difference between knowing everything and knowing everything a little better? If I might ask.
[Wat is het verschil tussen alles weten en alles een beetje beter weten? Als ik vragen mag.]

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 18, 2023, 11:16:01 PM4/18/23
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bruce bowser wrote:
Bruce wrote:

> Of course, ThoJo. ThoJo knows everything better. How could I forget?


> What's the difference between knowing everything and knowing everything a little better? If I might ask.
> [Wat is het verschil tussen alles weten en alles een beetje beter weten? Als ik vragen mag.]


I agree, a pretty stupid statement. But I can defend it. I can see two guys
who know exactly the same amount of stuff - pretty much everything to
the same exact level - but one guy has a better way of putting it to use
which makes his knowledge more attractive and worth absorbing. They
both know everything but one of them knows everything a little better
because of the way he uses it or passes it along to other people. A
salesman so to speak - a knowledge salesman. Like two meteorologists
who know exactly the same shit but one has a more entertaining way of
expressing it, so he is becomes "the guy known as the guy who knows
everything a little better than the other guy." I know this because I am
that guy. The first one. The guy who knows everything a little better
than the other guy. Trust me.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 22, 2023, 6:06:10 AM4/22/23
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bruce bowser wrote:
Bruce wrote:


> Of course, ThoJo. ThoJo knows everything better. How could I forget?



> What's the difference between knowing everything and knowing everything a
> little better? If I might ask.



I get it. But I want you to know I never said I know everything or
even suggested it. I only said that most doctors and professionals in
all fields know less than people think. You are right though. Bruce does
go out of his way to find things to bitch about, sometimes stretching the
truth to make a point.

It could be said that one guys knows everything a little better than another
guy who also knows everything because while they both know the same amount
of stuff, one guy is better in the way he uses what he knows. Like one guy uses
what he knows to be the biggest asshole on earth while the other uses the same
amount of knowledge for the good of all humanity. You know - guys like me.

Bruce

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Apr 22, 2023, 6:32:17 AM4/22/23
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 03:06:05 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> bruce bowser wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>
>> Of course, ThoJo. ThoJo knows everything better. How could I forget?
>
>> What's the difference between knowing everything and knowing everything a
>> little better? If I might ask.
>
>I get it. But I want you to know I never said I know everything or
>even suggested it. I only said that most doctors and professionals in
>all fields know less than people think. You are right though. Bruce does
>go out of his way to find things to bitch about, sometimes stretching the
>truth to make a point.

Lol, whatever. At least I do whatever I do in a few sentences. I don't
need an endless church sermon to get my point across.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 23, 2023, 12:59:30 AM4/23/23
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Bruce wrote:
Thomas Joseph

> >I get it. But I want you to know I never said I know everything or
> >even suggested it. I only said that most doctors and professionals in
> >all fields know less than people think. You are right though. Bruce does
> >go out of his way to find things to bitch about, sometimes stretching the
> >truth to make a point.


> Lol, whatever. At least I do whatever I do in a few sentences. I don't
> need an endless church sermon to get my point across.


No argument there. But let's examine the whys and the wherefores
of it. Of course you need less time than me to get your point across -
because your point is small. My points are grand in scope. You have
the capacity to grow but refuse to listen to those most able to help
you. I am here for you. I don't want to hold you down. I want you to
grow. To become almost as adept as I with all the things that count
in life. But mostly I want you to learn how to listen. That's why I talk
a lot, because I'll admit I am at times overly stressed just thinking about
new ways to help you become a better person. I want so desperately
to get my point across - my many points - that sometimes I can't stop
talking. But mostly I talk a lot because I like the sound of my own voice.
You see, even though I do not read my posts before sending, I do read
the words as they are typed onto the screen - a visual version of listening
to my own voice. I can't get enough of myself. It's not that I'm an egotist,
I just know there's so much more to me than meets the eye. It's deep
stuff. Profound. Hard to describe. You know what I mean. Easy to
understand but hard to explain. Please, for the sake of both of us
stop making me respond with longer and longer posts to make up
for your selfish shorties all the time.

Come on man, give!

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 23, 2023, 1:05:50 AM4/23/23
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"Yes, Your Honor, I plead guilty to going over the word limit in my latest
post. But with extenuating circumstances. Bruce made me do it. He
goaded me. He knew just how far to go. He practices night and day new
ways to push my buttons and he's getting better at it all the time. I do
not deny my guilt in abusing the word limit rule. But Bruce made me do
it, in the same way that Manson family members killed for Charlie.

"Bruce made me do it."

Bruce

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Apr 23, 2023, 4:29:27 AM4/23/23
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>Thomas Joseph
>
>> >I get it. But I want you to know I never said I know everything or
>> >even suggested it. I only said that most doctors and professionals in
>> >all fields know less than people think. You are right though. Bruce does
>> >go out of his way to find things to bitch about, sometimes stretching the
>> >truth to make a point.
>
>
>> Lol, whatever. At least I do whatever I do in a few sentences. I don't
>> need an endless church sermon to get my point across.
>
>
>No argument there. But let's examine the whys and the wherefores
>of it. Of course you need less time than me to get your point across -
>because your point is small. My points are grand in scope.

That's true. I can't compete with the grandeur of your points.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 23, 2023, 6:21:34 AM4/23/23
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Bruce wrote:
Thomas Joseph

> >No argument there. But let's examine the whys and the wherefores
> >of it. Of course you need less time than me to get your point across -
> >because your point is small. My points are grand in scope.


> That's true. I can't compete with the grandeur of your points.


I despise you for caving in and not arguing your point like a man.
You surrendered with a purpose, probably to escape the stress that
debating can bring. Do you see now why I hate debates? I tried to
start a debate with you just now to prove my point, that debating is
worthless. You are learning. Surrendering to me as you did proves
it. But I did not want the surrender, I wanted an argument. Good job
Bruce. You got me that time. By the way, I am aware that most of
my posts suck. Still by and large they are better than most in this
group and I am sick of not getting the respect I deserve from my
vast but unfortunately gutless readership.

Bruce

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Apr 23, 2023, 6:35:29 AM4/23/23
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 03:21:30 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>Thomas Joseph
>
>> >No argument there. But let's examine the whys and the wherefores
>> >of it. Of course you need less time than me to get your point across -
>> >because your point is small. My points are grand in scope.
>
>> That's true. I can't compete with the grandeur of your points.
>
>I despise you for caving in and not arguing your point like a man.

Ah, you missed the irony.

songbird

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Apr 23, 2023, 11:43:18 AM4/23/23
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Bruce wrote:
...
> That's true. I can't compete with the grandeur of your points.

if i have limited time for skimming, i admit i skip them
but much like a few other posters it isn't like it won't
be coming around again.

and no i don't get offended if someone skips my writings
either. this is writing for the fun of it for me almost all
the time so... well... cheers and have a nice day...


songbird

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 23, 2023, 10:01:34 PM4/23/23
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Bruce wrote:
Thomas Joseph

> >I despise you for caving in and not arguing your point like a man.


> Ah, you missed the irony.


I'm not perfect but can assure you I rarely miss the irony.
Irony is my game. Humor is my life. I need to laugh. If
I don't laugh a lot of people might have to die. Then after
killing them I laugh my ass off and everything is fine. Or
is it? Not if I go too far and laugh myself to death. Is
that even possible? I'm talking real laughter, not the kind
caused by tickling or used as the biggest mask ever for
overwhelming pain. I'm talking real laughter. I suppose
if a person went at it for a good hour or more, really hard,
it could cause some kind of fatal reaction - heart attack
or stroke or whatever.

Thomas Joseph

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Apr 23, 2023, 10:09:44 PM4/23/23
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songbird wrote:
Believe it or not I am much the same. I admitted a long
time ago that I am every bit as impatient with long posts as
other people. I see a wall of text and it fills me with dread.
I am glad to see your proviso: "If I have limited time for
skimming", as I am much the same when my time is limited.
But I am retired - from the minimum wage life - and have nothing
but time. Maybe too much of it. And even with all that time I
skip long posts from most people. Depends on their track
record. If they have a good batting percentage with me I'll
check it out. And yes I will admit it does piss me off when
people don't respond to my posts or at least acknowledge
having read or not read them. But that is only because I see
these same people responding to others without fail even
when the posts and the topics at hand are boring. Yes, I
can't deny it, it does tick me off. You seem to respond to
my posts even when many others do not. This tells me you
have a mind of your own. I don't care if you skip my posts.
I'm just glad you're not doing it as some kind of concerted
group effort. I think they call it blackballing. I also think
blackballing can happen even without planning. Lots of
follow the leader shit going on in this group, as in real life.
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