Friday, 6/12/2020, 'Cooking'

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

This morning I drug the Kitchenaid mixer off the top of the refrigerator
and proceeded to make sausage balls. Darn good if I do say so myself
and there's plenty left for breakfast/brunch for the next few days.

Then I made a large bowl of Waldorf salad and plenty of that as well. It
will be much better once it's had a chance to chill and the raisins plump
up a bit.

Clean up, the worst part, was done as I was buzzing around the kitchen
pretending my name is Julia Child. What will supper be? Not a clue.

[U.S. Janet B.]

Whew! my old mind and body says that's a lot of work. The sausage
balls sound like a good idea, though. You ought to freeze some
sausage balls so you have some when you feel lazy ;)
Janet US

[Hank Rogers]

I'm just having leftover spaghetti tonight. But if you don't mind,
I may barge in for brunch tomorrow. Please save me some salad.

[dsi1]

My daughter cooked up some vegetable lumpia. I used the oil in the pan to fry some breaded oysters that were in the freezer.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/RHV4Zka9TWqT0eW-2PZLKA.KSX-ydX33F2vFE4nMuwmDq

[Bruce]

Are those the breaded oysters? What's the orange sauce?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 5:49:45 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> Whew! my old mind and body says that's a lot of work. The sausage
> balls sound like a good idea, though. You ought to freeze some
> sausage balls so you have some when you feel lazy ;)
> Janet US
>

Once I got my butt into gear, it wasn't bad but I knew not to go flop on the
couch as I'd not want to get up. I will say the mixer made very short work
of blending all the ingredients for the sausage balls. The first time I
made them I thought it was a chore trying to get everything blended but
the mixer had me ready to portion them out in less than three minutes.

Sausage and flour (Bisquick) first to blend and no floury spots, then the
cheese. I use one of those one tablespoon scoops as it makes the perfect
size.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 6:00:10 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> I'm just having leftover spaghetti tonight. But if you don't mind,
> I may barge in for brunch tomorrow. Please save me some salad.
>

Come on over! There's plenty of Waldorf salad to share.

[dsi1]

Yes. Sriracha mayo. I was looking for a bottle of tonkatsu sauce for the oysters but Sriracha mayo was all I found. I just needed to sample the mayo. It was so-so.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Whatever it is, it looks good!

[Bruce]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:47:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

It looks good. I like mayo with chilli. I also like mayo without
chilli. I also like chilli without mayo.

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:

> Clean up, the worst part, was done as I was buzzing around the kitchen
> pretending my name is Julia Child.

Only time I've seen Julia Child on a cooking show was in her
later years and she sure wasn't buzzing around the kitchen.

More like propped up, leaning on the counter, watching a
guest chef do all the cooking, and adding a comment here
and there. It was disturbing to watch.

I know she was a great chef but that was too sad to watch.
I'd love to see her in younger years on a cooking show.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 7:26:29 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> > Clean up, the worst part, was done as I was buzzing around the kitchen
> > pretending my name is Julia Child.
>
> Only time I've seen Julia Child on a cooking show was in her
> later years and she sure wasn't buzzing around the kitchen.
>
> More like propped up, leaning on the counter, watching a
> guest chef do all the cooking, and adding a comment here
> and there. It was disturbing to watch.
>

All those chefs came to Julia and were on her show because she was the one
who opened the door for them to become master cooks in their field. Julia
had a wealth of knowledge to share even if she was old and not as perky and
vibrant as when she started out on PBS.

It will be interesting to see how perky you are and how well you swing a
paintbrush when you are approaching 90.

>
> I know she was a great chef but that was too sad to watch.
> I'd love to see her in younger years on a cooking show.
>

You thought it was too sad to watch because she was old? You probably
didn't even pay attention to what they were talking about; she was still
sharp in the kitchen even though her stamina was gone.

There are many, many Julia Child videos on YouTube.

[dsi1]

My guess is that most of these TV chefs aren't that great cooks. Mostly, they're wonderful television personalities. Ms. Child is important because she introduced a generation of American boomers to French style cooking. She did have her predecessors. I suppose Fanny Cradock would be the most well known in the UK. I can't say if Ms. Child is known in the UK or the rest of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWoXQSfQkDg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 1:31:34 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> My guess is that most of these TV chefs aren't that great cooks. Mostly, they're wonderful television personalities. Ms. Child is important because she introduced a generation of American boomers to French style cooking. She did have her predecessors. I suppose Fanny Cradock would be the most well known in the UK. I can't say if Ms. Child is known in the UK or the rest of the world.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWoXQSfQkDg
>

Mrs. Child, not Ms., was certainly known in France where she lived for
several years and got her degree from the Le Cordon Bleu. Was she known
in other countries? I don't have a clue, but she was interested in cuisine
from all over the world and traveled to many countries to learn their food
and techniques.

[dsi1]

Are you implying that all an American has to do to be well-known in France is to live there and go to school - or is there something else you're not saying? My guess is that Josephine Baker was well known in France, Julia Child was not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Baker

[Bruce]

It's called old age, Gary. Maybe TV programs with old people should
start with a warning so sensitive people can quickly change channels.

[Bruce]

In the 70s, for instance, the world wasn't a global village yet. Julia
Child wasn't known in my country.

By the way, I thought "Ms" was used when one doesn't want to specify
Mrs or Miss -like one also doesn't do with men- and is always
applicable.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Of course not and you know I'm not saying that. But yes, Julia was well known
in France but of course not in the rest of the world.

Nobody heard of Josephine Baker until well after WW2.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:29:26 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> By the way, I thought "Ms" was used when one doesn't want to specify
> Mrs or Miss -like one also doesn't do with men- and is always
> applicable.
>

It is if a woman is using her maiden name. Julia always used her married
name and wasn't afraid to be called Mrs. as she was a celebrity in her own
right. She wasn't afraid of being overshadowed by a man.

Personally, I hate that stupid Ms. title. "Miz Joan, miz Joan! Yo' want
yo' yawd mowed?"

[Bruce]

Lol. Yes, I guess it's strange to use Ms with your husband's name.
You'd have to use Mrs Husbandsname or Ms Ownname. Or use your first
name.

[graham]

Comedians used to take the piss out of Fanny, calling her Fanny Haddock.
From Wiki, "Cradock married four times, twice bigamously."

[dsi1]

Why do you believe that Julia Child was famous in France? I doubt that's true. It's also not true that nobody heard of Josephine Baker before WWII. She was a huge star in France during the 20's and 30's. Are you just making up stuff as you go along? This is just nuts.

[dsi1]

Ms. Cradock would be a scary lady to work with or be married once to, let alone 4 times. What I don't get is the need to poke fun at her name. Isn't "fanny" the Brit word for "pussy?" Pussy Cradock is a lot more funny than Fanny Haddock. Something's fishy if you ask me.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 4:17:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> Why do you believe that Julia Child was famous in France? I doubt that's true. It's also not true that nobody heard of Josephine Baker before WWII. She was a huge star in France during the 20's and 30's. Are you just making up stuff as you go along? This is just nuts.
>

Why do you believe Josephine Baker was not heard of until well after WW2?
Just because she was a huge star in France doesn't make her world-famous
at that time.

[graham]

I made a sponge cake once by following her instructions. What a
disaster! I think her ego greatly exceeded her competence!

[dsi1]

Indeed you are making stuff up. I never said that Josephine Baker was famous world-wide. My guess is that in America she was just another colored girl. In France, she was a superstar and a war hero. You should make a little effort to get your facts straight. Yoose gets the last word.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 11:58:53 AM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 4:17:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > Why do you believe that Julia Child was famous in France? I doubt that's true. It's also not true that nobody heard of Josephine Baker before WWII. She was a huge star in France during the 20's and 30's. Are you just making up stuff as you go along? This is just nuts.
>> >
>> Why do you believe Josephine Baker was not heard of until well after WW2?
>> Just because she was a huge star in France doesn't make her world-famous
>> at that time.
>>
>> Are you just making up stuff as you go along? This is just nuts.
>
>Indeed you are making stuff up. I never said that Josephine Baker was famous world-wide. My guess is that in America she was just another colored girl.

Wait, I learnt here that 'colored person' is no longer acceptable and
should now be 'person of color'. It might even have been you who told
me that.

Am I mistaken?

[dsi1]

I'll have to take your word for it. OTOH, I really think you should try a stab at making her famous (?) round Christmas pudding. I think I might try it, although I'll probably have to substitute 6 lbs of hamburger for whatever the hell is in Christmas pudding.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p05q2bw5.jpg

[dsi1]

I don't tell people what to say or what is acceptable. This is Usenet. You're not supposed to tell other posters what to say or what to post or how to post. You're totally free to call colored people whatever the heck you want to. You can call them "Zwarte Piet" if you like. What's it to me?

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:33:22 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

You're such a difficult, stuck up little fella.

Anyway, I checked the Google archive and it was Cindy who told me that
"colored person" should now be "person of color", because "Colored has
a long and infamous history in the U.S. I can see why nobody wants to
use it."

[dsi1]

Please address your concerns to the NAACP, although my guess is that they're not real interested in the opinions of racist white boys.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

How would they feel about a pseudo-Hawaiian racist who distinguishes
between the various Asians based on whether their view of reality is
as slanted as his own?

Man, you inspire me to some flowery language!

[dsi1]

Please address your crazy ass questions to the NAACP if you want to know how they would feel. Yoose gets the last word.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 12:49:23 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:33:22 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Am I mistaken?
>>>>
>>>> I don't tell people what to say or what is acceptable. This is Usenet. You're not supposed to tell other posters what to say or what to post or how to post. You're totally free to call colored people whatever the heck you want to. You can call them "Zwarte Piet" if you like. What's it to me?
>>>
>>> You're such a difficult, stuck up little fella.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I checked the Google archive and it was Cindy who told me that
>>> "colored person" should now be "person of color", because "Colored has
>>> a long and infamous history in the U.S. I can see why nobody wants to
>>> use it."
>>
>> Please address your concerns to the NAACP, although my guess is that they're not real interested in the opinions of racist white boys.
>
> How would they feel about a pseudo-Hawaiian racist who distinguishes
> between the various Asians based on whether their view of reality is
> as slanted as his own?
>
> Man, you inspire me to some flowery language!
>

I'm so proud of yoose!

[Dave Smith]

Why is that? Are they racist?

[dsi1]

Here's a little secret - everybody is racist. Perhaps some blind folks are not - perhaps.

OTOH, some racist will feel the need to hassle other people because of their skin color or appearance. Some racists will feel the need to lynch, or hunt people down and shoot them, or suffocate the life out of people because of the color of their skin.

Mostly, though, racists will just feel that people with different skin color are inferior to themselves, or won't hire different colored folks for jobs, will tell them to go back to where they came from or won't let other folks live where they want to and try to torpedo them in whatever way the can.

It's one of the most natural thing in the world to be racist. OTOH, trying to bring other people down because of the color of their skin is immoral. It's really simple. OTOH, most people are completely unaware of what kind of racist they are.

[Bruce]

So lemme see if I get it. Since I don't think people with a different
skin colour than me are inferior to me, I'm not racist. Is that
correct?

Do you think people with another skin colour than you are inferior to
you?

[Hank Rogers]

Damn. Yoose sure have a lot of hands!

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 17:38:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

I have to agree, EVERYONE is racist to some degree. I like dark
skinned females but I have absolutely no use for dark skined males...
actually I have no use for any males.

[dsi1]

My OCD Chinese friend is totally racist - although it don't mean that he's out there looking for black folks to chase after or choke. Actually, Chinese people are afraid of black folks. He told me a joke recently. It's an old joke told by Mohammed Ali:

A black guy, a Mexican guy, and a Puerto Rican guy, were in a car together. Who's driving?

The PO-LEESE!

[Hank Rogers]

What about all those Filipinos in the navy Popeye?

[Lucretia Borgia]

Julia Child was indeed well known in France, it's where I first heard
of her!

[dsi1]

What was she known for? What did you hear about her?

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

What do you think she'd be known for? Being the first woman to climb
Mount Everest? Giving birth to octuplets?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 5:15:33 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> Indeed you are making stuff up. I never said that Josephine Baker was famous world-wide. My guess is that in America she was just another colored girl. In France, she was a superstar and a war hero. You should make a little effort to get your facts straight. Yoose gets the last word.
>

You're the one who blurted out it's not true that no one heard of Josephine
Baker before WW2. You stated she was a huge star in France in the '20s and
30's so I guess that made her famous everywhere else?

[dsi1]

What are you retarded?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 10:16:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> What are you retarded?
>
No, just talking with a retarded person who can't believe someone he has no
real knowledge of was well known in France.

>
> "My guess is that Josephine Baker was well known in France, Julia Child was not."
>

I've noticed in the last six months all of your statements, no matter the
subject, are always preceded with "My guess is......"

[dsi1]

I'll often say "My guess is..." so what? I like to say it so I don't come off as a Mr. Know-it-all. I don't need any pointers on my writing style from the likes of you, missy.

I call you retarded because you think that just because someone is famous in America, they're well known in France. You also seem to believe that I think that someone that's famous in France is going to be well known everywhere and in America. That's retarded thinking.

The truth is that I did know that Josephine Baker was famous in France. I was guessing that Julia Child was not well-known in France. Why should she be? Her TV shows were probably not shown in France - I doubt that the French would take too kindly with an American tell them how to cook their own food. As it turns out, it was a good guess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/world/europe/17julia.html#

[Bruce]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 20:45:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 5:22:17 PM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 10:16:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > What are you retarded?
>> >
>> No, just talking with a retarded person who can't believe someone he has no
>> real knowledge of was well known in France.
>> >
>> > "My guess is that Josephine Baker was well known in France, Julia Child was not."
>> >
>> I've noticed in the last six months all of your statements, no matter the
>> subject, are always preceded with "My guess is......"
>
>I'll often say "My guess is..." so what? I like to say it so I don't come off as a Mr. Know-it-all.

I'm guessing there's a big difference between how you come across and
how you think you come across.

[dsi1]

I'm guessing that this also applies to you and everybody else on the newsgroup. So what else is new? Nuttin'.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:29:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Well, that Mr. Know-it-all comment was a bit of a surprise.

[Pamela]

I would have thought Ozzies, known for direct talking, would simply use
the term "blacks". That's what most people say here in the UK.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 09:26:34 +0100, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm trying not to offend the majority of Americans here. That's always
my first priority.

Australian blacks speak of blackfellas and whitefellas.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:16680f67-a5df-4325...@googlegroups.com...

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 2:26:29 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> > Clean up, the worst part, was done as I was buzzing around the kitchen
> > pretending my name is Julia Child.
>
> Only time I've seen Julia Child on a cooking show was in her
> later years and she sure wasn't buzzing around the kitchen.
>
> More like propped up, leaning on the counter, watching a
> guest chef do all the cooking, and adding a comment here
> and there. It was disturbing to watch.
>
> I know she was a great chef but that was too sad to watch.
> I'd love to see her in younger years on a cooking show.

My guess is that most of these TV chefs aren't that great cooks. Mostly,
they're wonderful television personalities. Ms. Child is important because
she introduced a generation of American boomers to French style cooking. She
did have her predecessors. I suppose Fanny Cradock would be the most well
known in the UK. I can't say if Ms. Child is known in the UK or the rest of
the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWoXQSfQkDg

===

I only heard of Julia Child here. I vaguely remember Fanny Craddock but
that is eons a go. We have a lot of male chefs but my favourite has always
been Delia Smith. Not that I have seen her for ... well eons either but I
do have some of her books:)

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:31ac7b98-0ada-4e7e...@googlegroups.com...

===

???

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 10:18:16 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
>news:16680f67-a5df-4325...@googlegroups.com...
>

>My guess is that most of these TV chefs aren't that great cooks. Mostly,
>they're wonderful television personalities. Ms. Child is important because
>she introduced a generation of American boomers to French style cooking. She
>did have her predecessors. I suppose Fanny Cradock would be the most well
>known in the UK. I can't say if Ms. Child is known in the UK or the rest of
>the world.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWoXQSfQkDg
>
>===
>
> I only heard of Julia Child here. I vaguely remember Fanny Craddock but
>that is eons a go. We have a lot of male chefs but my favourite has always
>been Delia Smith. Not that I have seen her for ... well eons either but I
>do have some of her books:)

My favourite's Ken Hom on the BBC.

[S Viemeister]

On 6/14/2020 10:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> "dsi1"  wrote in message

> My OCD Chinese friend is totally racist - although it don't mean that
> he's out there looking for black folks to chase after or choke.
> Actually, Chinese people are afraid of black folks. He told me a joke
> recently. It's an old joke told by Mohammed Ali:
>
> A black guy, a Mexican guy, and a Puerto Rican guy, were in a car
> together. Who's driving?
>
> The PO-LEESE!
>
> ===
>
>   ???
>

Ra polis.
The above-mentioned gentlemen were locked in the back seat.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 6:33:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 12:21:20 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

> > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >
> > >On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 11:58:53 AM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 4:17:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Why do you believe that Julia Child was famous in France? I doubt that's true. It's also not true that nobody heard of Josephine Baker before WWII. She was a huge star in France during the 20's and 30's. Are you just making up stuff as you go along? This is just nuts.
> > >> >
> > >> Why do you believe Josephine Baker was not heard of until well after WW2?
> > >> Just because she was a huge star in France doesn't make her world-famous
> > >> at that time.
> > >>
> > >> Are you just making up stuff as you go along? This is just nuts.
> > >
> > >Indeed you are making stuff up. I never said that Josephine Baker was famous world-wide. My guess is that in America she was just another colored girl.
> >
> > Wait, I learnt here that 'colored person' is no longer acceptable and
> > should now be 'person of color'. It might even have been you who told
> > me that.
> >
> > Am I mistaken?
>
> I don't tell people what to say or what is acceptable. This is Usenet. You're not supposed to tell other posters what to say or what to post or how to post. You're totally free to call colored people whatever the heck you want to. You can call them "Zwarte Piet" if you like. What's it to me?

This is Usenet. It's a worldwide scrum where anyone will say
anything to everyone.

It's always been that way.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

My guess is he's too lazy to look things up and become informed.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

You corrected me once when I said "coloured person" and I needed my
memory refreshed today because it doesn't exactly speak for itself why
"coloured person" is wrong, but "person of color" is ok.

[Bruce]

I'm not so sure that the average French person in the 70s or these
days knows who Julia Child is.

[dsi1]

Back some 20 years ago, the Iron Chef programs just stunned me. I couldn't what my eyes were seeing. They were doing things I've never seen before. I think they messed up my brain.

I was at the supermarket today and got a call from my daughter asking me to make some cashew chicken. That surprised me because the previous times I made the dish, it was not that good. My son told me, when we were driving home, that I make it pretty good. Ha ha that was news to me. Anyway, I made it tonight and pretty much nailed it. It tasted exactly as I wanted it to turn out. So that was a good thing that happened today. It was packed for my wife's dinner at work with some garlic shrimp, kim chee, and pickled radish.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/kmOwNDa7QC-FSiKXcAU76Q.gwB4y-PaGI1KHMuCwGgzgi

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:05tbef5mdv1s0k7is...@4ax.com...

===

Oh yes! I used to like him too.

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:hkmb45...@mid.individual.net...

===

Thanks:)

[dsi1]

Of course they did - they still remember her. Julia Child taught the French people how to cook French food correctly. She pretty much revived/saved France's Culinary history/tradition from obscurity. She's a national hero in France.

[Cindy Hamilton]

So? "Worldwide scrum". I can explain to you why "colored person"
is disparaged and that "person of color" has inexplicably replaced
it.

I don't care if you call them niggers. That's what my grandfather
called them.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 12:49:23 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

> >> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:33:22 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Am I mistaken?
> >> >
> >> >I don't tell people what to say or what is acceptable. This is Usenet. You're not supposed to tell other posters what to say or what to post or how to post. You're totally free to call colored people whatever the heck you want to. You can call them "Zwarte Piet" if you like. What's it to me?
> >>

> >> You're such a difficult, stuck up little fella.
> >>

> >> Anyway, I checked the Google archive and it was Cindy who told me that
> >> "colored person" should now be "person of color", because "Colored has
> >> a long and infamous history in the U.S. I can see why nobody wants to
> >> use it."
> >
> >Please address your concerns to the NAACP, although my guess is that they're not real interested in the opinions of racist white boys.
>

> How would they feel about a pseudo-Hawaiian racist who distinguishes
> between the various Asians based on whether their view of reality is
> as slanted as his own?
>
> Man, you inspire me to some flowery language!

heh heh I think Dsi1 just won.

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
>
> He told me a joke recently. It's an old joke told by Mohammed Ali:
>
> A black guy, a Mexican guy, and a Puerto Rican guy, were in a car together. Who's driving?
>
> The PO-LEESE!

LOL. That's a funny one. At least it's funny for those that
don't get offended so easily.

[Gary]

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> Julia Child was indeed well known in France, it's where I first heard
> of her!

She went to France to learn french cooking. I would think that
her teachers would be the ones well known there as great chefs.

The French (as a whole) also absolutely loved Jerry Lewis
and all his movies where he acted as a spazzy retard.
Many made with Dean Martin (as the normal guy).
I never found those movies funny at all. Just stupid.

Then in his later years, he always did those annual
Telethons to raise money for some disease.
On those, he appeared as an old, tired worthless drunk.

For some reason, the French loved him. Oh well.
Who cares what the French think? ;)

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
>
> Back some 20 years ago, the Iron Chef programs just stunned me. I couldn't what my eyes were seeing. They were doing things I've never seen before. I think they messed up my brain.

Has it been that long ago already? I remember those and they
were awesome. Talking about the original Iron Chef in Japan with
subtitles.

[Gary]

Just blacks in my area except for the racists that still refer
to them as niggers. Usually low class whites that hate blacks
that accomplish more than they did.

In the perfect world, all will only be called man or woman.
No need to denote skin color unless you are describing a
suspect to police when you witnessed a crime.

Oh that's right....the police are all evil now. damn!

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:30:53 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> Julia Child was indeed well known in France, it's where I first heard
>> of her!
>
>She went to France to learn french cooking. I would think that
>her teachers would be the ones well known there as great chefs.
>
>The French (as a whole) also absolutely loved Jerry Lewis
>and all his movies where he acted as a spazzy retard.

Yes, I think so. In the 70s at least.

>Many made with Dean Martin (as the normal guy).
>I never found those movies funny at all. Just stupid.

Same here.

[Bruce]

Yes, the original Japanese Iron Chef was great.

[Bruce]

Yes, with often the same attractive Japanese woman in the jury.
Although my wife always said it was a different woman each time.

[Lucretia Borgia]

Julia Child was in Paris with her husband (forget his name, something
to do with the US Embassy) and decided to attend the Cordon Bleu and
learn to cook the French way because she loved the food.

Subsequently she got together with two French chefs and they put out a
couple of books.

As regards to her latter shows this side of the Pond, she combined
with Jaques Pépin to make an amusing series, before that she had done
a series with new people that then went on easily to make their name
mostly because she had featured them.

In no way should she be compared to Jerry Lewis.

[Bruce]

I thought in the UK the common term was "wogs".

[Dave Smith]

Never underestimate the need that many people have to be offended. Race
is one of the issues where labels evolve over time. What typically
happens is that a label becomes a pejorative and is replaced by
something more polite. After a while the new word develops the same
negative connotation as the one it replaced and then another one comes
along to replace it.

The same thing has happened with physical and mental disabilities. They
used to describe various levels of mental ability with terms like
imbecile, idiot and moron. Somewhere along the way those terms were
replaced by mentally retarded. That one was quite acceptable until the
1980s but now it is viewed only as a pejorative. Deaf. blind,
handicapped and wheel chair have also fallen out of favour.

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> I've noticed in the last six months all of your statements, no matter the
> subject, are always preceded with "My guess is......"

More like the last 6 years. That's Steve's new drinking game.
Did you miss that a few months ago?

Steve's drinking game:
Every time Dsi1 says, "My guess is" you take a drink.
heheheh

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 10:36:50 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2020-06-14 7:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 6:33:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
>>> You corrected me once when I said "coloured person" and I needed my
>>> memory refreshed today because it doesn't exactly speak for itself why
>>> "coloured person" is wrong, but "person of color" is ok.
>>
>> So? "Worldwide scrum". I can explain to you why "colored person"
>> is disparaged and that "person of color" has inexplicably replaced
>> it.
>>
>> I don't care if you call them niggers. That's what my grandfather
>> called them.

I call them negroes, yoose all are free to call me caucasion. There
are no black or white people... black and white are not colors...
that's what's seen in the absence of light. When someone calls
themselves black or white they are simply indicating that they are
uneducated. I've never seen anyone with skin the shade of snow or
coal. In the US there exist very few pure negroes, the vast majority
are now of mixed race.... race mixing in the US was very common during
the early days of slavery and still continues today. Caucasions are
becoming more and more of mixed race as well. It's a lot more
accurate to note physical features than skin color... same is true for
Orientals too, when was the last time yoose saw any with yellow
skin... Orientals began race mixing long before north Americans.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:315b0e98-f7ca-4567...@googlegroups.com...

Well, we all need an excuse ... ;)

I was at the supermarket today and got a call from my daughter asking me to
make some cashew chicken. That surprised me because the previous times I
made the dish, it was not that good. My son told me, when we were driving
home, that I make it pretty good. Ha ha that was news to me. Anyway, I made
it tonight and pretty much nailed it. It tasted exactly as I wanted it to
turn out. So that was a good thing that happened today. It was packed for my
wife's dinner at work with some garlic shrimp, kim chee, and pickled radish.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/kmOwNDa7QC-FSiKXcAU76Q.gwB4y-PaGI1KHMuCwGgzgi

Lucky wife:)) So, what did you do differently to last time you made
it?? Please post the new recipe? I think, D. would like that:))

[dsi1]

It probably started in high school back in the 70's. It acknowledges the obvious fact that there's not many things that are absolute and that we cannot know the true nature of reality. It's also nicer than saying "you're wrong!", which is a favorite pet phrase of some of the old ladies and uptight gents of rfc. Beats the heck out of me why it would infuriate some posters here. My guess is these people are petty, angry, churlish, folks. That's the breaks.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.food.cooking/GE--tp4Ipwc/PXfTsazXw2wJ

[dsi1]

It's the same as the old recipe except that I added more ginger and fish sauce. I was also more careful to not burn the cashews. I'm going to make it again with more cashews. It's a work in progress.

[Hank Rogers]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 10:16:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> What are you retarded?
>>
> No, just talking with a retarded person who can't believe someone he has no
> real knowledge of was well known in France.
>>
>> "My guess is that Josephine Baker was well known in France, Julia Child was not."
>>

> I've noticed in the last six months all of your statements, no matter the
> subject, are always preceded with "My guess is......"
>

The guessing stuff has been going on a ling time, at least a few years.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 7:33:22 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
> > Julia Child was indeed well known in France, it's where I first heard
> > of her!
>
> She went to France to learn french cooking. I would think that
> her teachers would be the ones well known there as great chefs.
>

Julia Child went to France because her husband was in the diplomatic
corps. The woman didn't even know how to boil water since she was the
product of a wealthy California family. She enrolled in the Cordon
Bleu because Paul, her husband, loved fine food and great wines. She
loved them too, and once she arrived in France she wanted to learn how
to cook all the amazing dishes that were available.

Her instructor was indeed a well-known chef and teacher. They stayed in
close contact until his death.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
> Julia Child was in Paris with her husband (forget his name, something
> to do with the US Embassy) and decided to attend the Cordon Bleu and
> learn to cook the French way because she loved the food.
>

Paul was her husband's name. The class that was offered was geared to
American ex-servicemen. Julia was the only woman in the class!

>
> Subsequently she got together with two French chefs and they put out a
> couple of books.
>

Yes, the first book took Julia 10 years to perfect and write. L.O.T.S. of
testing and she wanted the book to be easily understood by American women
and to be able to source the ingredients locally. Julia enlisted her sister
and sisters-in-law in the USA to test and report back on the recipes.

>
> As regards to her latter shows this side of the Pond, she combined
> with Jaques Pépin to make an amusing series, before that she had done
> a series with new people that then went on easily to make their name
> mostly because she had featured them.
>

True. Julia and Jaques got along quite well and very good in the
kitchen cooking together.

>
> In no way should she be compared to Jerry Lewis.
>

Ain't that the truth!

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:8305b700-a947-42ba...@googlegroups.com...

===

Ok thanks:))

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 1:16:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 5:58:44 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
> > >
> > > I've noticed in the last six months all of your statements, no matter the
> > > subject, are always preceded with "My guess is......"
> >
> > More like the last 6 years. That's Steve's new drinking game.
> > Did you miss that a few months ago?
> >
> > Steve's drinking game:
> > Every time Dsi1 says, "My guess is" you take a drink.
> > heheheh
>
> It probably started in high school back in the 70's. It acknowledges the obvious fact that there's not many things that are absolute and that we cannot know the true nature of reality.

For all practical purposes, we can. Gravity works, the sun
shines, if I stub my toe it hurts.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

One of Julia's later books is The Way To Cook. It gives some very basic
information and they shows you how to build on that to make other
variations.

[S Viemeister]

On 6/14/2020 8:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> One of Julia's later books is The Way To Cook.  It gives some very basic
> information and they shows you how to build on that to make other
> variations.

I've given copies of that book to young people just starting out
cooking. Well-written, very practical teaching of much more than just
the basics.

[cshenk]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 7:01:02 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:26:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >
> > > My daughter cooked up some vegetable lumpia. I used the oil in
> > > the pan to fry some breaded oysters that were in the freezer.
> > >
> > >
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/RHV4Zka9TWqT0eW-2PZLKA.KSX-ydX33F2vFE4nMuwmDq
> >
> > Are those the breaded oysters? What's the orange sauce?
> >
> Whatever it is, it looks good!

Siracha Mayo. I do a Cholula mayo sometimes or a Cholula sourcream.
Looks about the same but a might bit pinker than the orangy color I see
in his shot.

[Pamela]

That was always disparaging. More so nowadays.

Nowadays terms of racial abuse found in English literature is also problematic, as this video shows.

<https://news.sky.com/video/black-lives-matter-schoolgirl-says-ive-experienced-racism-12006000>

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 22:36:19 +0100, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

That comment came from Greg Sorrow, who lately likes to post under my
name to give himself more authority.

"Wog" refers to Australians from southern European background,
especially if they still have a lot of their original culture.
Italians, Croatians, Greeks etc. It's not necessarily offensive,
depending a bit on how it's used. Although these days everything's
offensive.

No offence, by the way.

[Hank Rogers]

Authority? LOL. Watch out, your buttons are going to start popping
off. Take your hat off too, or it'll get stuck, when your head
starts to swell up.

[dsi1]

That's just the way your brain interprets reality. It's not reality, it's just the way we experience reality. Some folks believe that the Windows OS interface is the reality of the way a computer works. The computer does work by moving icons of stuff around. For all practical purposes, it is.

[John Kuthe]

TrueDat! I'm a Computer Engineer by degrees (CS and EE) and while I was going to Washington University St Louis to achieve this I'd always told people "I am going to WashU to learn how computers work, but that does not mean I know how to tell you how to make your computer work!

John Kuthe....

[Hank Rogers]

Makes sense. Sometimes you can't even figure out how to make your
own computer work, even with all those degrees. You have to take it
to a shop and let blue collar guys fix it for you.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 14, , Bruce wrote
(in article<f86def9asiik6v3sl...@4ax.com>):

> "Wog" refers to Australians from southern European background,
> especially if they still have a lot of their original culture.
> Italians, Croatians, Greeks etc. It's not necessarily offensive,
> depending a bit on how it's used. Although these days everything's
> offensive.
>
> No offence, by the way.

Kevin Bloody Wilson, an Aussie lad, explains our differences in “The
Pubic Hair Song”. It’s on YouTube, but I won’t provide a link. There
is the ultimate dirty word sung several times and with an outright racial
theme. Some in this group may experience extreme offense, and I won’t be
a party to that.
Do NOT google the song and click on the YouTube link. You’re welcome.

leo

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 14, , Ophelia wrote
(in article <hkm8ao...@mid.individual.net>):

> I only heard of Julia Child here. I vaguely remember Fanny Craddock but
> that is eons a go. We have a lot of male chefs but my favourite has always
> been Delia Smith. Not that I have seen her for ... well eons either but I
> do have some of her books:)

I’m fond of Nigella Lawson for some reason. Does she cook?

leo

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 21:50:19 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I'm not sure what you're saying, but wog isn't particularly offensive.
(Except these days, now that everything's offensive.) It's also not
racist. White Australian Italians and Greeks are wogs and are of the
same race as white Anglos.

(Phew, I added the word 'white' twice, just in time!)

[Bruce]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 22:24:09 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

They do.