OT Spring Cleaning! :-)

[John Kuthe]

I have my waterbed stripped and the whites in a small bleach load in the washer and I have my old Electrolux off Craigslist vacuum just like my mommy had and am cleaning up my room and waterbed base!

John Kuthe...Climate Anarchist and Very Domesticated!

[GM]

John Kuthe wrote:

> I have my waterbed stripped and the whites in a small bleach load in the washer and I have my old Electrolux off Craigslist vacuum just like my mommy had and am cleaning up my room and waterbed base!

How long since you washed those krusty cum - stained sheets, five or so years...???

--
Best
Greg

[John Kuthe]

Nope, I wash IT (I have one waterbed sheet) every once in a while. Waterbed sheets are $100+ each!) and I have a mesh bag to wash and dry as it;s two veery long queen sized sheets joined at the logit in, especially in the dryer the long waterbed sheet would get wrapped around other laundry!

I've been sleeping on a waterbed since the early 1980's. I love it! It's a bag of coolish water in the Summertime and a slightly warm things to sleep on in the Winter!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

Does the sloshing remind you of the good days you spent in mommy's
uterus?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 9:59:09 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > > I have my waterbed stripped and the whites in a small bleach load in the washer and I have my old Electrolux off Craigslist vacuum just like my mommy had and am cleaning up my room and waterbed base!
> >
> >
> > How long since you washed those krusty cum - stained sheets, five or so years...???
>

> Nope, I wash IT (I have one waterbed sheet) every once in a while. Waterbed sheets are $100+ each!) and I have a mesh bag to wash and dry as it;s two veery long queen sized sheets joined at the logit in, especially in the dryer the long waterbed sheet would get wrapped around other laundry!
>

Good grief, that just plain old nasty. I have a waterbed as well, but mine
will take regular bedsheets as it is a soft-sided bed and looks like your
everyday kingsize bed. No matter what type of sheets you use, those should
be stripped from the bed and washed weekly. No wonder no woman doesn't
want to have anything to do with you!

By the way, you can purchase waterbed sheets from eBay and probably Amazon
too, for well under $100. Instead of buying a bunch of stereo equipment,
opt for a new set of sheets you can rotate. If nothing else, buy a queen-size
set of bedsheets and get someone to sew the top sheet to the bottom at the
foot and you instantly have a set of waterbed sheets.

>
> I've been sleeping on a waterbed since the early 1980's. I love it! It's a bag of coolish water in the Summertime and a slightly warm things to sleep on in the Winter!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Let's hope while you have this nasty bed stripped down you've also added the
once a year water conditioner to the existing water.

[GM]

LOL...and is that water still *clean*...prolly smells worse than John's bong water...

--
Best
Greg

[John Kuthe]

I use waterbed water treatments. In 2016 when I moved in I had to repair a leak in my waterbed mattress, so the water in it is mostly from 2016 where I finally found and the last and only leak. I repaired it and filled my mattress.

Besides the only time you smell the water is if some leaks out. My waterbed mattress has no leaks, so the water is adequately controlled/contained in the waterbed mattress.

John Kuthe...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 5:34:12 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I use waterbed water treatments. In 2016 when I moved in I had to repair a leak in my waterbed mattress, so the water in it is mostly from 2016 where I finally found and the last and only leak. I repaired it and filled my mattress.
>
> Besides the only time you smell the water is if some leaks out. My waterbed mattress has no leaks, so the water is adequately controlled/contained in the waterbed mattress.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Hey, dummy, you do know you're supposed to use that waterbed treatment each
and every year?

[Gary]

heh heh John's sleeping on a bed of swamp water.
Isn't the treatment basically just chlorine?

[Ed Pawlowski]

No, should not use chlorine at all.

Pour 8 cups of distilled water into a large container. Add two-thirds of
a cup of sodium thiosulfate, which conditions water by removing
chemicals from it. Alternatively, you could use sodium
hydroxymethanesulfinate. Put the lid on the container and shake it well.

[Gary]

I suspect that just a company's way of selling you a more
expensive
product. A bit of chlorine in water would kill any bacteria or
mold and
mildew in that water.

It's a common method of cleaning water to make it drinkable.
Just a few drops per gallon.

[Cindy Hamilton]

False economy.

Chlorine might eat the plasticizers. I'd rather spend extra on
chemicals than eventually have a premature failure of the waterbed
itself.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Bottom line here is... I'll never have a damn waterbed.
I slept on one once with an old girlfriend and it was
annoying. Lean up sideways on an elbow and your elbow
sinks right down to the bottom.

I have a very old mattress that has outlived it's life.
Rather than replace it, I bought 2 foam mattress pads
and stacked them one on top of the other. Instant new
nice mattress. :)

I though waterbeds went out in the 1980's along with
those bread bowls for soup that Jill still likes.

[graham]

What gets me is that the mattress retailers say (obviously to their
benefit) that one should replace mattresses every 10 years, then they
sell you one with a 20 year "warranty".

[Ed Pawlowski]

Newer ones have baffles so you don't bottom out like that. Much
different experience. We had one for about 5 or 6 years and quite
comfy. In winter you add a little heat too, very nice sleeping in a
cool room that way.

[Gary]

My mattress is queen size and a good 40 years old.
Thing is, I've only slept on half of it in all those
years so I bought 2 single size mattress pads for
my side. Total cost about $30 rather than spend
hundreds of dollars for a new mattress.

When I move from here, I'll trash the bed and just
buy a smaller one next time. I do have a fairly new
and unused double bed in the guest room. Maybe just
keep that one for myself.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Don't you ever turn your mattress?

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

LOL....Cindy, I've rotated it and flipped it many times.
After 40 years, it's dead. Except for the foam pads I bought
last year. Now, it's fine with them.

[Gary]

> graham wrote:
> > What gets me is that the mattress retailers say (obviously to their
> > benefit) that one should replace mattresses every 10 years, then they
> > sell you one with a 20 year "warranty".

Another thing to beware of when buying a new mattress...
We found the one we wanted and it came in 2 different
coverings. One was plain cloth with stripes and ugly looking.
For $100 more, you got the same mattress with a nice blue
silky covering. So much nicer looking.

Well, we got suckered in to buying the better one. Bad choice.

1) Doesn't matter what the mattress covering looks like.
It always gets covered with a sheet anyway.

2) With that silky mattress fabric, your fitted sheets slide
right off the corners quickly. It's annoying in that way.

[Hank Rogers]

Even if you buy the $100,000 kind?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > On 6/15/2020 9:25 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > > heh heh John's sleeping on a bed of swamp water.
> > > Isn't the treatment basically just chlorine?
> > >
> >
> > No, should not use chlorine at all.
> >
>

Absolutely NOT!

>
> > Pour 8 cups of distilled water into a large container. Add two-thirds of
> > a cup of sodium thiosulfate, which conditions water by removing
> > chemicals from it. Alternatively, you could use sodium
> > hydroxymethanesulfinate. Put the lid on the container and shake it well.
>
> I suspect that just a company's way of selling you a more
> expensive
> product. A bit of chlorine in water would kill any bacteria or
> mold and
> mildew in that water.
>
> It's a common method of cleaning water to make it drinkable.
> Just a few drops per gallon.
>

The chlorine would damage the waterbed bladder. The small bottle of
water treatment is not expensive and needs to be done annually to
maintain the integrity of the mattress. He can pick up a bottle at
his local dealer, eBay, or Amazon.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Bottom line here is... I'll never have a damn waterbed.
> I slept on one once with an old girlfriend and it was
> annoying. Lean up sideways on an elbow and your elbow
> sinks right down to the bottom.
>

That's because you slept on one of the original waterbeds and it sounds
like she did not have enough water in it.

My waterbed looks exactly like a bed you'd see in anyone's bedroom. It
takes regular bed sheets and it is a pillowtop mattress. No sloshing and
no sinking to the bottom.

>
> I though waterbeds went out in the 1980's along with
> those bread bowls for soup that Jill still likes.
>

Just because you don't have one and don't like them means they have 'gone
out.' Mine actually has lumbar support inside the bladder and being that
it has a pillowtop and I also use a mattress pad I don't need the heater
that normally is used with these.

[Alex]

That's disgusting.

[Alex]

I'd be more concerned about the filthy sheets.

[jmcquown]

Nothing wrong with toasted bread bowls and potato leek soup.

> Newer ones have baffles so you don't bottom out like that.  Much
> different experience.  We had one for about 5 or 6 years and quite
> comfy.  In winter you add a little heat too, very nice sleeping in a
> cool room that way.

IMHO, waterbeds always needed heaters, even in the Summer (but set to
low). Getting into an unheated waterbed, no matter what time of year,
isn't very comfortable.

Baffles in the mattress, definitely. No water sloshing around, no elbow
going wherever Gary's memories go. Just a nice waveless water bed.

Jill

[John Kuthe]

I have a top of the line waveless waterbed, it's like lying on a bag of wet sand!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

I JUST washed it! It's ONE SHEET! Top and bottom joined at the short end, queen sized.

John Kuthe...

[cshenk]

Actually I've made bread bowls. Simply fun to make.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 7:15:30 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>

> IMHO, waterbeds always needed heaters, even in the Summer (but set to
> low). Getting into an unheated waterbed, no matter what time of year,
> isn't very comfortable.
>

> Jill
>
Mine has a pillowtop and I also use a mattress pad and I found out on the
lowest setting of that heater just made the bed too warm for me. I turned
it off and even unplugged it; that was about $70 I could have saved.

The bed is never cold or clammy and no sloshing.

[jmcquown]

Maybe the heater on mine didn't get as hot as yours. It was years ago.
I do know I had to replace the mattress a couple of times over the
course of 25 years. Sometimes patching just doesn't do it. I did add
the chemical treatment every year.

> The bed is never cold or clammy and no sloshing.
>

Never any sloshing with mine. Baffles in the mattress so it was
waveless. (Don't you have the tube type?) And yes, a soft side
waterbed so no special sheets (or wooden furniture to contain the
mattress) required. Please do wash your sheets more than... omg
whatever it was he said. LOL

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

No, I just have the large vinyl 'mattress' but it does have the stuff
inside to help with back support. No, no tubes in mine and I have seen
those and they really discourage people from buying that type of waterbed
mattress. Each tube has to be filled individually and it's a bit hard
getting the same amount of water in each tube. I can't imagine wrestling
one of those tubes into place after filling either.

Rain or shine, winter or summer, the bed is stripped weekly and changed.
The rare time it has not been changed is if I'm sick and can just barely
drag myself to the bathroom and back to bed again.

[Alex]

OK, but you said you wash it "every once in a while".  That's just
nasty.  Ours are laundered weekly.

[John Kuthe]

I wash my waterbed sheet when it gets dirty, just because it's such a project.

John Kuthe...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I wash my waterbed sheet when it gets dirty, just because it's such a project.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

It's dirty every week and you have had nothing but time on your hands.
Besides, you've had this bed for ages, you should have mastered by now
how to quickly get the sheets back on. It shouldn't take you more than
a few minutes working them onto the mattress.

[Bruce]

You're suffering from empty nest syndrome and treat John as your son.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:50:44 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>My mattress is queen size and a good 40 years old.
>Thing is, I've only slept on half of it in all those
>years so I bought 2 single size mattress pads for
>my side. Total cost about $30 rather than spend
>hundreds of dollars for a new mattress.

Cool, now you can buy another cheeseburger.

>When I move from here, I'll trash the bed and just
>buy a smaller one next time.

Did you say 'buy'? Did you???

>I do have a fairly new
>and unused double bed in the guest room. Maybe just
>keep that one for myself.

That's more like the Gary we know!

[Bruce]

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:05:38 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>> graham wrote:
>> > What gets me is that the mattress retailers say (obviously to their
>> > benefit) that one should replace mattresses every 10 years, then they
>> > sell you one with a 20 year "warranty".
>
>Another thing to beware of when buying a new mattress...
>We found the one we wanted and it came in 2 different
>coverings. One was plain cloth with stripes and ugly looking.
>For $100 more, you got the same mattress with a nice blue
>silky covering. So much nicer looking.
>
>Well, we got suckered in to buying the better one. Bad choice.

>1) Doesn't matter what the mattress covering looks like.
> It always gets covered with a sheet anyway.

That's a $100 down the drain! O N E H U N D R E D ! How many
cheeseburgers was that in those days?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Nope, that's just basic every week washing and having a clean bed which
he doesn't seem to mind sleeping in filth.

[Alex]

You don't need to wait for a shit stain to know it's dirty.  50 hours
sleeping in/on them is enough to require washing.

[cshenk]

Same here. Don actually has a sort of blanket on top of the sheet then
a coverlet over him. The blanket and coverlet get washed about once a
week. The actual base sheet, probably once a month.

Don showers before bed so the underneath sheet doesn't get very dirty.

[Bruce]

That is a great visual, cshenkie.

[Hank Rogers]

Sniff away Fruce!

[Bruce]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 23:38:59 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
wrote:

>>>>> OK, but you said you wash it "every once in a while".  That's just
>>>>> nasty.  Ours are laundered weekly.

>>>>
>>>> I wash my waterbed sheet when it gets dirty, just because it's such a
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> Same here. Don actually has a sort of blanket on top of the sheet then
>>> a coverlet over him. The blanket and coverlet get washed about once a
>>> week. The actual base sheet, probably once a month.
>>>
>>> Don showers before bed so the underneath sheet doesn't get very dirty.
>>
>>
>> That is a great visual, cshenkie.
>>
>
>Sniff away Fruce!

That was your lookalike Greg Sorrow.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> cshenk wrote:
> > Same here. Don actually has a sort of blanket on top of the sheet then
> > a coverlet over him. The blanket and coverlet get washed about once a
> > week. The actual base sheet, probably once a month.
> >
> > Don showers before bed so the underneath sheet doesn't get very dirty.
>
> That is a great visual, cshenkie.

I mentioned this once before but I'll say it again:

I dated a woman once. We had a good time but during the
date and conversation, she mentioned that she changed
her sheets every single morning.

Yikes! Danger Will Robinson! I never asked her out
for a 2nd date. I didn't see any future there.

[Bruce]

You're so narrow minded, you'll spend the rest of your life single.
Just the way you like it.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 6:06:04 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> I dated a woman once. We had a good time but during the
> date and conversation, she mentioned that she changed
> her sheets every single morning.
>
> Yikes! Danger Will Robinson! I never asked her out
> for a 2nd date. I didn't see any future there.
>

Why would that bother you? Was she demanding that you come over and help
change the bed? Did she make you put the previous sheets in the washer
and after cleaned and dried demand you fold them in a manner acceptable
to her?

Or was she just too clean for you?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Too persnickety. I wouldn't date her either. (Assuming I was a man.)

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

I don't know for sure I'd dump someone for daily sheet changing but I'd
certainly take note of things. She could be a bit compulsive an many
things and difficult to live with.

I knew a couple where the woman was overly clean. To put away clean
laundry she would take the basket to the bedroom, open the drawer, wash
hands, put in clothing. Close drawer, open next drawer, wash hands
again, etc. Husband left after a year or so.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:03:47 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

Obviously she slept with a different guy each night and there were
often sloppy and extensive wet spots.

[Bruce]

Sheldon Martin explained :

> Obviously she slept with a different guy each night and there were
> often sloppy and extensive wet spots.
>

I didn't realize you're talking about your
Mexican ex hooker bride.

https://imgur.com/a/mUBC7og

[Sheldon Martin]

I'm thinking Gary is a carbon copy of my faggot brother, married a
very nice women, produced one son (who is royaly fucked up to this
day) the creep. I've no doubt from reading Gary's posts that he's a
flaming faggot. I've no doubt that Gary is a faggot, that's why his
wife divorced him, I won't buy any other reason.

[dsi1]

That's because she was a call girl. A very high class one at that, and an expert on the many ways of lovemaking.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:51:03 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>

When men are single for many years, they become weird. Very rigid, set
in their ways and judgmental. Actually, I just described McBiddy so it
might work the same for women.

[Bruce]

These "bull" women such as Jill McBiddy frightened me so that I became an all - out practising homosexualist.

[Bruce]

lol

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 2:30:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> When men are single for many years, they become weird. Very rigid, set
> in their ways and judgmental. Actually, I just described McBiddy so it
> might work the same for women.
>

I'll speak up and say when you are single for many years, yes, you do get
set in your ways; that goes for BOTH sexes. Nobody likes to be dominated
by another person no matter their sex unless they are henpecked or the
fear of having their eyes blacked if they 'talk back.'

[Bruce]

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:12:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 2:30:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> When men are single for many years, they become weird. Very rigid, set
>> in their ways and judgmental. Actually, I just described McBiddy so it
>> might work the same for women.
>>
>I'll speak up and say when you are single for many years, yes, you do get
>set in your ways; that goes for BOTH sexes.

Yes.

> Nobody likes to be dominated
>by another person no matter their sex unless they are henpecked or the
>fear of having their eyes blacked if they 'talk back.'

I think it's because when you're single, nobody taps you on the
shoulder when you're becoming a bit nutty and rigid about certain
things. Over time that nuttiness and rigidity add up, until you think
you're a ferret. But those are extreme cases.

[Hank Rogers]

So, what do you reckon happened to Popeye?

[Bruce]

Hank Rogers wrote :

> So, what do you reckon happened to Popeye?
>

Blowers cramps for gramps.

[Gary]

Too clean for me.

[jmcquown]

On 6/19/2020 11:42 AM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

The *inference* I inferred is Gary's date NEEDED to change her sheets
every morning due to 'traffic'.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Good thing yoose have drucilla to keep you straight. Otherwise
you'd be worse than donald trump. I reckon she's wise to let you
pursue your ass sniffing hobby.

<hikes leg> Have a whiff Druce.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye must have been in the neighborhood.

[Gary]

I know of someone like that.
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2006201649300094.jpg

[Bruce]

Is that how you approach those women in the supermarket?

[Gary]

That thought never entered my mind. I see how you think though.

I detected an obscessive/compulsive cleaning person.
Not someone I'd want to live with.
Sheldon is one too. That's why his wife stays out of
his kitchen and lets him do all the cooking.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5EEDF299...@att.net...

====

Awwwww :))

[cshenk]

Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > On 6/19/2020 11:42 AM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 6:06:04 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > >> I dated a woman once. We had a good time but during the
> > >> date and conversation, she mentioned that she changed
> > >> her sheets every single morning.
> > > >
> > >> Yikes! Danger Will Robinson! I never asked her out
> > >> for a 2nd date. I didn't see any future there.
> > > >
> > > Why would that bother you? Was she demanding that you come over
> > > and help change the bed? Did she make you put the previous
> > > sheets in the washer and after cleaned and dried demand you fold
> > > them in a manner acceptable to her?
> > >
> > > Or was she just too clean for you?
> > >

> > The inference I inferred is Gary's date NEEDED to change her sheets

> > every morning due to 'traffic'.
>
> That thought never entered my mind. I see how you think though.
>
> I detected an obscessive/compulsive cleaning person.
> Not someone I'd want to live with.
> Sheldon is one too. That's why his wife stays out of
> his kitchen and lets him do all the cooking.

I too would have detected a sort of OCD issue with it.

Dunno if Sheldon is what you say. Literally don't know. Could be the
wife does cook but he hasn't mentioned it, or could be she just doesn't
like to. People marry for many reasons but it's not uncommon to match
up a skill you don't have (or don't enjoy) with a partner who has it.

It's not a joke that I couldn't recall the color of our washing machine
or dryer a bit back. When Don tells me we need a replacement, I look
them up and have him see them then get what he wants. He had me get
him an iron for Christmas as the old one was dying.

Conversely, he's never made bread, cleaned a sink or a bathroom or
planted a garden or made out a check or done taxes.

We do share the cooking because we both like to make stuff. I could no
more shuffle him out of the kitchen than from my life.