OT: MASS SHOOTING IN AUSTRALIA...!!! :-(

[GM]

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dead-shooting-australian-city-darwin-63472167

Gunman out on parole kills 4 in Australian city of Darwin

ByROD MCGUIRK, ASSOCIATED PRESS
MELBOURNE, Australia — Jun 4, 2019, 10:10 AM

"A man who was out on parole was arrested after fatally shooting four men and wounding a woman in an hour-long downtown rampage Tuesday in the northern Australian city of Darwin, police said.

Police did not reveal a motive for the shotgun attack, but ruled out terrorism.

It was Australia's third mass shooting since the country introduced tough gun laws in response to a 1996 massacre in which a lone gunman armed with two semi-automatic assault rifles killed 35 people in Tasmania state. Mass shootings are usually defined as those resulting in at least four deaths excluding the shooter.

In Tuesday's rampage, four men were killed and a woman was wounded at five places around Darwin, said Northern Territory Police Commissioner Reece Kershaw.

The 45-year-old suspect was released from prison on parole in January and was wearing an electronic monitoring bracelet, Kershaw said. Police did not say why he had been in prison or whether the bracelet helped police arrest him.

"He is an individual who's well known to police and has a number of interactions adverse with the police," Kershaw said.

The woman who was wounded did not have serious injuries, he said.

The Health Department had earlier said two people were taken to a hospital with gunshot wounds and both were in stable condition. It was not immediately clear if the second victim had been injured in an unrelated shooting.

Kershaw said the man was arrested after he contacted a senior police officer. An Australian Broadcasting Corp. reporter said she saw police tackle and taser the gunman at a busy intersection.

Kershaw did not explain why the suspect was being held under police guard in a hospital. The suspect had yet to be charged.

Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner described the incident as an "incredibly difficult night."

"This is not the Darwin we know," Gunner said. "This may be an event you prepare for, but this is never an event you want to respond to."

Witnesses described the shooter using a pump action shotgun to fire multiple blasts at the Palms Hotel and Buffalo Club. A victim was killed at each. Kershaw confirmed that the suspect was armed with a shotgun, but could not confirm what type.

Pump action shotguns have been virtually banned from private ownership in Australia along with other rapid-fire weapons under the country's tough gun laws designed to prevent mass shootings..."

[col...@gmail.com]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:

>Guns don't kill people, people kill people

with guns

[Terry Coombs]

  and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
What's yer point ?

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

People kill other people with cars and trucks, intentionally or not. People
kill other people with knives and poison as well.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:58:21 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>> with guns
>
>   and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
>What's yer point ?

Less guns, less murders. Look at the statistics.

[Bruce]

It's all been said before. You like people to walk around with guns,
including yourself. Enjoy. I prefer Australia or Europe from that
perspective.

[Hank Rogers]

Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>> with guns
>
>   and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
> What's yer point ?
>

Not needed.
Popeye can kill yoose with one finger. It all depends on how strong
yoose are. Popeye is the strongest man in the universe. His flatus
is more powerful than F5 tornado. But it smells like lilac blossoms.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Yep, I have a gun and I have the permit to carry it but I rarely do. But
nobody is safe, even Australians.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 7:05:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>>>
>>> with guns
>>>
>> People kill other people with cars and trucks, intentionally or not. People
>> kill other people with knives and poison as well.
>
> It's all been said before. You like people to walk around with guns,
> including yourself. Enjoy. I prefer Australia or Europe from that
> perspective.
>

Oh hush Druce. Yoose can stay down under, and everyone will be
happy, right?

Besides. it's not like she is crazy ole John Kunte walking around
with a loaded gun. That would scare me too. She can come around here
anytime armed. It don't bother me. Yoose are paranoid.





]

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 9:20:24 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >People kill other people with cars and trucks, intentionally or not. People
>> >kill other people with knives and poison as well.
>>
>> It's all been said before. You like people to walk around with guns,
>> including yourself. Enjoy. I prefer Australia or Europe from that
>> perspective.
>>
>Yep, I have a gun and I have the permit to carry it but I rarely do. But
>nobody is safe, even Australians.

If you rarely carry it, we're not that different. But there are
probably many more guns around you, in public, than around me.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 21:34:30 -0500, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.org>
wrote:

I never said I'm worried about Joan walking around with a gun. I'm
not.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

And it doesn't bother me in the least there are lots of guns in public around
me.

[graham]

On 2019-06-04 4:57 p.m., GM wrote:
> https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/dead-shooting-australian-city-darwin-63472167

Puts into perspective the 150 mass shootings so far THIS YEAR in the US.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:46:17 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 9:37:15 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Yep, I have a gun and I have the permit to carry it but I rarely do. But
>> >nobody is safe, even Australians.
>>
>> If you rarely carry it, we're not that different. But there are
>> probably many more guns around you, in public, than around me.
>>
>And it doesn't bother me in the least there are lots of guns in public around
>me.

That's why it's good you live there and I don't :)

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm killing my husband with cheesecake.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

"Enjoy" implies you're ready to STFU about it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Probably. And oddly enough, gunfire never seems to spontaneously
break out.

Cindy Hamilton

[col...@gmail.com]

You don't need a permit to carry a gun here but I have no tiny gun and tiny guns don't work very good anyway.

[Bruce]

It's useless to have this discussion over and over again. Most people
simply love to live where they were born, whether it's a retarded
place or not. So enjoy.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 03:57:09 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:

>You don't need a permit to carry a gun here but I have no tiny gun and tiny guns don't work very good anyway.

Besides, tiny guns are unamerican.

[jay]

Who's statistics?? I don't see the statistics. Did you forget to
include them?

[jay]

Bruce is a very naive little sissy boy. He can't help himself and will
probably remain that way until he fully matures.

[Janet]

In article <qd8dbn$9m1$1...@dont-email.me>, j...@mail.com says...

https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe

Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people

Australia 1.4

USA 29.7

Janet UK

[Terry Coombs]

 You failed to say that the majority of those gun homicides are
concentrated in certain population centers (all with democratic
leadership) and that most often it's gang on gang type violence . Drop
those statistics and you'll find our rate compares favorably with the
rest of the world . We don't have a gun problem , we have a criminal
problem . And it's aggravated by a revolving-door criminal justice
system . FWIW my wife and I agree that non-violent offenders in many
cases would be better off left in the community with close supervision -
and a job , as contributing members of society rather than a drain .
It'd also leave more room in prison for those who truly are a menace . I
mean , does a 19 year old kid that got caught with a half ounce of pot
really need to be locked up ?

[Terry Coombs]

  Oh I don't know , a .38 derringer is about as American as you can get .

[Gary]

I have one more slice for tonight and I swear I won't buy or make
another until at least 2020. ;)

[Gary]

Bruce should move to California. He'd fit right in there. ;)

[Gary]

Tiny guns are quite effective when used close-up and personal.

[GM]

Something else:

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/1/18000510/gun-suicide-homicide-comparison

There are more gun suicides than gun homicides in America

Nearly 23,000 people died by firearm suicide in 2016.

Gun homicides get far more attention in the popular press, but most gun deaths are the result of suicide. In 2016, the last year for which the CDC provides numbers, 22,938 people committed suicide by firearm, while 14,415 people died in gun homicides. Historical data shows it’s been this way for a while

In total, 38,658 people died of firearm injuries in 2016. A relatively small number (495) of those were due to accidental firings. Another 300 resulted from discharges of “undetermined intent,” and 510 resulted from “legal intervention/war...”

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[Janet]

In article <qd8jra$fi2$1...@dont-email.me>, snag...@msn.com says...

>
> On 6/5/2019 8:36 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article <qd8dbn$9m1$1...@dont-email.me>, j...@mail.com says...
> >> On 6/4/19 8:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:58:21 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
> >>>>> with guns
> >>>>   and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
> >>>> What's yer point ?
> >>> Less guns, less murders. Look at the statistics.
> >>>
> >> Who's statistics?? I don't see the statistics. Did you forget to
> >> include them?
> > https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe
> >
> > Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people
> >
> > Australia 1.4
> >
> > USA 29.7
> >
> > Janet UK
>
>  You failed to say that the majority of those gun homicides are
> concentrated in certain population centers (all with democratic
> leadership) and that most often it's gang on gang type violence . Drop
> those statistics and you'll find our rate compares favorably with the
> rest of the world .

Perhaps you can provide the statistics you're talkinbg about? and
their source.

Janet UK

[Dave Smith]

There are other factors involved, like cultural attitudes toward self
defense and protection of property. Combine a willingness to kill to
protect with access to guns and the rate will be higher. Gun ownership
rates in Canada are not far find the US, but our firearm homicide is
fraction of their, and the homicides are by far more of a problem within
certain ethnic communities.

[col...@gmail.com]

I think black on black causes most gun deaths.

[Terry Coombs]

  I don't have the exact source , but GM did post a link in reply to my
post with a link to some other statistics . The only articles i found
with a basic search are all opinion pieces ... no hard fact , but I will
keep looking . I do know that around here a murder is very very rare ,
while in Memphis (one of those liberal controlled cities) there seem to
be several incidents per week .

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not a problem in my opinion. People have the right to end
their lives whenever and however they please.

Although if they choose, for example, to step in front
of a rapidly moving vehicle, that's just selfish. Think
of the poor driver.

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

Thanks to the PC attitude of the day it can be difficult to find race
based statistics, but they are out there. If a person does not want to
remain willfully ignorant of reality they can check out the
neighbourhoods in which the majority of the shootings take place or
checkout the photographs in newspaper articles about the shootings. In
many parts of the US and in the Canadian cities with the highest numbers
of shootings, they are almost always black. People harp about how some
racial groups are disproportionately represented in the prison system,
but have difficulty accepting that it is a result of the crimes they
committed rather than their race.

Here is a link to a Canadian government statistics service that
addresses the over representation of Indians as victims and accused in
homicide cases.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/jr/jf-pf/2017/jan02.html


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

https://news.wttw.com/sites/default/files/article/image-non-gallery/Figure1.jpg


This article has a list of the 201 shooting victims in Chicago and it
indicates the race of each. 163 of them are black. Blacks make up only
1/3 of the population but account for 3/4 of the shooting victims.


https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/


There is a similar situation in Detroit. This article indicates that the
homicide rate for young black males is more than 4 times higher than the
national average.... which includes blacks.


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2018/10/21/detroit-dealing-devastating-impact-black-male-homicides/808535002/

[Bruce]

That says it all.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 10:52:31 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>

You may sit down.

[Bruce]

Damn, I hate it when people see through me.

[Bruce]

Yes, that would be a better fit than a fly-over state full of
deplorables. Huh huh.

[Dave Smith]

I don't think it is the business of the state to take guns out of the
hands of individuals because someone might, in a fit of depression,
commit suicide. Actually, I might prefer they have the option to do
that, provided they do it outside and not leave a horrible mess in the
house that someone else will have to clean up. Better that than to
traumatize some innocent driver just doing his job.

We had a local suicide issue. A nearby city replaced an old bridge with
a really nice looking new bridge. There is a highway that runs under the
bridge. The old bridge had its share of jumpers, but incidents were not
publicized. A few months ago the highway was shut down for hours while
the police investigated a suicide. Next thing you know, trouble souls
are acting like depressed lemmings and the new bridge was a magnet for
jumpers. People started demanding barriers to prevent people from
jumping and the bill for the barrier was going to be in the millions.
Aside from destroying the aesthetics of the design, jumpers would just
find somewhere else. Just a couple miles away there is an even higher
bridge that has been a popular jumping spot for decades, but must people
don't know about that one because they don't release any information
about suicides there. Nor to they publicize the number of people going
over Niagara Falls or jumping off the Rainbow Bridge.

[Terry Coombs]

  Liar , you changed "firearm deaths" which includes suicides and
police/justified shootings to "homicides" .

[Bruce]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 12:37:34 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>

wrote:

>On 6/5/2019 12:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 14:36:16 +0100, Janet <Ja...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <qd8dbn$9m1$1...@dont-email.me>, j...@mail.com says...
>>>> On 6/4/19 8:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:58:21 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>>>>>>> with guns
>>>>>>   and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
>>>>>> What's yer point ?
>>>>> Less guns, less murders. Look at the statistics.
>>>>>
>>>> Who's statistics?? I don't see the statistics. Did you forget to
>>>> include them?
>>> https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe
>>>
>>> Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people
>>>
>>> Australia 1.4
>>>
>>> USA 29.7
>> That says it all.
>
>   Liar , you changed "firearm deaths" which includes suicides and
>police/justified shootings to "homicides" .

Liar, I didn't change anything.

[Sqwertz]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 09:33:33 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote:

> On 6/5/2019 8:36 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article <qd8dbn$9m1$1...@dont-email.me>, j...@mail.com says...
>>> On 6/4/19 8:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:58:21 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>>>>>> with guns
>>>>>   and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
>>>>> What's yer point ?
>>>> Less guns, less murders. Look at the statistics.
>>>>
>>> Who's statistics?? I don't see the statistics. Did you forget to
>>> include them?
>> https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe
>>
>> Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people
>>
>> Australia 1.4
>>
>> USA 29.7
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>  You failed to say that the majority of those gun homicides are
> concentrated in certain population centers (all with democratic
> leadership) and that most often it's gang on gang type violence.

Oh, so you get to exclude the murders that you don't want to so your
argument appears more palatable?

Sorry, but that's not how statistics work.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 10:52:31 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote:

>   I don't have the exact source , but GM did post a link in reply to my
> post with a link to some other statistics . The only articles i found
> with a basic search are all opinion pieces ... no hard fact , but I will
> keep looking . I do know that around here a murder is very very rare ,
> while in Memphis (one of those liberal controlled cities) there seem to
> be several incidents per week .

Duh. Because you live out in the boonies. Obviously the stats for
most anything rise where people are more concentrated.

-sw

[Bruce]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 16:04:18 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

Touché.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:57:13 AM UTC-5, col...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> You don't need a permit to carry a gun here but I have no tiny gun and tiny guns don't work very good anyway.
>

Get a .38 Special and load it with hollow points.

https://i.postimg.cc/5tt6Gy7Q/Hollow-Points.jpg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 10:22:49 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> In article <qd8jra$fi2$1...@dont-email.me>, snag...@msn.com says...
> >

> >  You failed to say that the majority of those gun homicides are
> > concentrated in certain population centers (all with democratic
> > leadership) and that most often it's gang on gang type violence . Drop
> > those statistics and you'll find our rate compares favorably with the
> > rest of the world .
>
> Perhaps you can provide the statistics you're talkinbg about? and
> their source.
>
> Janet UK
>

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

And it's illegal to own a gun in Chicago but nobody told the gangs that and
yes, it is a city run by the Democrats.

[Sqwertz]

Nobody changed anything. The title of the stat is 'Homicides by
Firearm'

[Janet]

In article <3f826e40-c1ac-40ec...@googlegroups.com>,
itsjoan...@webtv.net says...

>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 10:22:49 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> >
> > In article <qd8jra$fi2$1...@dont-email.me>, snag...@msn.com says...
> > >
> > >  You failed to say that the majority of those gun homicides are
> > > concentrated in certain population centers (all with democratic
> > > leadership) and that most often it's gang on gang type violence . Drop
> > > those statistics and you'll find our rate compares favorably with the
> > > rest of the world .
> >
> > Perhaps you can provide the statistics you're talkinbg about? and
> > their source.
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html

website unavailable in Europe.

Janet UK

[Janet]

In article <qd8uhm$fof$1...@dont-email.me>, snag...@msn.com says...

Nope, I quoted the website verbatim, as anyone can see on the link.

https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe
" Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people"

Janet UK

[GM]

Yup, Joan...EXACTLY..."gun control" means n-o-t-h-i-n-g here on on the mean streets of 'Chiraq"...here are the RAW stats in easy - to - read diagrams:

https://heyjackass.com/


More here (and the final tally on Monday eve was 10 dead):

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

"MONDAY, JUNE 03, 2019

Poverty Crimes Rise Again

As of Sunday evening, Chicago had tallied 9 dead and 40 wounded. It might go higher by the close of business, but it far outstripped the entire Memorial Day weekend. At this rate, Special Ed might be gone before the 4th of July.

Lightgroot (newly - elected black Chicago SJW Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who was a partner in a prestigious law firm} is supposed to be not happy:

I see where Lori is going to have “accountability Monday’s" for “CPD bosses” each week. She’s going to want to know what they’re doing to reduce violence. Since Lori has said most of these crimes are crimes of poverty does that mean CPD has to reduce poverty in “the community” along with everything else we’re tasked with? Is she going to have accountability Tuesday’s for “the community”??

"Community" accountability? Hahahahahahahahaha. That's like asking an aldercreature to not be corrupt. We can't wait to hear the details from inside this meeting and see what hair-brained initiatives come out this week.
Labels: crime, dumb ideas, stats

POSTED BY SCC AT 12:05 AM 184 COMMENTS ..."

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[Dave Smith]

It is not illegal to own a gun in Chicago. They do have some pretty
strict regulations.

We have similar situation up here. You have to take a safety course and
do a police record search to get a license to own and acquire guns and
ammunition. Hand guns are strictly regulated and it is extremely for an
individual to get a permit to carry one. Legal hand gun owners have to
belong to a recognized gun club to get a transport permit, and that
allows them to transport the handguns from your residence to the club
and home, and it has to be trigger locked and be in a locked case, and
ammunition in a different locked case. Yet, Toronto sees weekly
incidents of young gang members shooting each other. None of them have
permits to own those guns, and they sure as hell don't have carry
permits. Many think that making things even more strict for legal gun
owners will encourage the gangstas to behave.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Try this one. Good breakdown by weapon, gender, etc.
https://heyjackass.com/

[GM]

Yup, the real stats - which of course the MSM Chicago Tribune does not publish in any case...

--
Best
Greg

[Dave Smith]

I noted that Englewood leads the pack as deadliest neighourhood. It
wasn't like that 100 years ago when my father in law grew up there.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:13:54 PM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> In article <3f826e40-c1ac-40ec...@googlegroups.com>,
> itsjoan...@webtv.net says...

> >
> > https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html
>
> website unavailable in Europe.
>
> Janet UK
>

From the website:

When homicides happen

For the previous 365 days
Homicides tend to peak in the summer months, on the weekend and during later hours.


Causes of death

For the previous 365 days
The majority of Chicago homicides are the result of gun violence.

Shot (354)

Unknown (187)

Stabbing (18)

Other (9)


Where homicides happen

For the previous 365 days
Though there are homicides recorded throughout the city they are most concentrated in the South and West sides.



About the victims

Black, not hispanic (311)

Not known (211)

White, not hispanic (38)

Hispanic (5)

Asian (3)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:24:20 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2019-06-05 5:24 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > And it's illegal to own a gun in Chicago but nobody told the gangs that and
> > yes, it is a city run by the Democrats.
> >
> It is not illegal to own a gun in Chicago. They do have some pretty
> strict regulations.
>

Handguns that have not been registered before 1982 are not allowed, and thus any handgun in Chicago after said date is illegal by Illinois law. The carrying of firearms is restricted only to rifles and shotguns, and individuals must also have a valid FOID; Firearm Owners Identification card.

[F Murtz]

On 05/06/19 12:14, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:58:21 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>>> with guns
>>
>> and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
>> What's yer point ?
>
> Less guns, less murders. Look at the statistics.
>

With guns maybe, not much overall,

[F Murtz]

On 05/06/19 23:36, Janet wrote:
> In article <qd8dbn$9m1$1...@dont-email.me>, j...@mail.com says...
>>

>> On 6/4/19 8:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:58:21 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/4/2019 7:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>>>>> with guns
>>>>
>>>> and bricks and knives and axes and tire irons and baseball bats .
>>>> What's yer point ?
>>>
>>> Less guns, less murders. Look at the statistics.
>>>
>>

>> Who's statistics?? I don't see the statistics. Did you forget to
>> include them?
>
> https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe
>
> Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people
>
> Australia 1.4
>
> USA 29.7
>

> Janet UK
>
Waste of time posting that. post instead statistics on totals

[Bruce]

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 14:07:20 +1000, F Murtz <hag...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Homicides overall too. But feel free not to believe the statistics.
They're all fake news anyway. Enjoy!