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US Janet
Jan 1, 2022, 3:14:05 PM1/1/22
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I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
Sigh [:(
Janet US
Michael Trew
Jan 1, 2022, 3:33:31 PM1/1/22
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Jeßus
Jan 1, 2022, 3:37:23 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:
It's the same in Australia, there are no more cheap cuts of meat.
Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
wrote:
Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
Dave Smith
Jan 1, 2022, 4:20:35 PM1/1/22
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of oxtails enough for to bounteous meals would set me back less than 30
cents.
US Janet
Jan 1, 2022, 4:50:45 PM1/1/22
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now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
Janet US
US Janet
Jan 1, 2022, 4:55:09 PM1/1/22
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that eggs sold for over a dollar a piece. I tried to work that
through my brain but couldn't see a way that would happen, :) When I
first got married, my household allowance was $15/week. My husband
paid the utilities and the rent and I paid everything else with that
$15. We ate pretty good on things I I won't pay for now.
Janet US
Jeßus
Jan 1, 2022, 5:23:00 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 14:55:02 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 16:20:29 -0500, Dave Smith
><adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>On 2022-01-01 3:13 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>> Sigh [:(
>>>
>>
>>I remember getting them when we were first married back in 1973. A bag
>>of oxtails enough for to bounteous meals would set me back less than 30
>>cents.
>
>I remember reading when I was a kid that during the Alaska Gold Rush
>that eggs sold for over a dollar a piece. I tried to work that
>through my brain but couldn't see a way that would happen, :)
Simple supply and demand. I think highly inflated prices on goldfields
was common everywhere back in the day.
>When I
>first got married, my household allowance was $15/week. My husband
>paid the utilities and the rent and I paid everything else with that
>$15. We ate pretty good on things I I won't pay for now.
>Janet US
Don't know why I remember this as I was only aged 10 or so, but our
weekly food shopping cost was ~USD$18 circa 1973.
wrote:
>On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 16:20:29 -0500, Dave Smith
><adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>On 2022-01-01 3:13 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>> Sigh [:(
>>>
>>
>>I remember getting them when we were first married back in 1973. A bag
>>of oxtails enough for to bounteous meals would set me back less than 30
>>cents.
>
>I remember reading when I was a kid that during the Alaska Gold Rush
>that eggs sold for over a dollar a piece. I tried to work that
>through my brain but couldn't see a way that would happen, :)
was common everywhere back in the day.
>When I
>first got married, my household allowance was $15/week. My husband
>paid the utilities and the rent and I paid everything else with that
>$15. We ate pretty good on things I I won't pay for now.
>Janet US
weekly food shopping cost was ~USD$18 circa 1973.
Jeßus
Jan 1, 2022, 5:34:59 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 14:50:38 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
for that price, but rarely for less than that these days. We've been
thinking of getting a couple of cattle lately, given the prices they
fetch.
wrote:
>On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 07:37:16 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>>a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>>Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>>can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>>used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>>enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>>Sigh [:(
>>>Janet US
>>
>>It's the same in Australia, there are no more cheap cuts of meat.
>>Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
>>popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
>
>I agree. I've got the last of my stash of oxtails making soup right
>now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
>Janet US
That's like AUD$16 per kilo. We can sometimes find cheap cuts of beef
>On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 07:37:16 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>>a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>>Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>>can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>>used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>>enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>>Sigh [:(
>>>Janet US
>>
>>It's the same in Australia, there are no more cheap cuts of meat.
>>Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
>>popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
>
>I agree. I've got the last of my stash of oxtails making soup right
>now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
>Janet US
for that price, but rarely for less than that these days. We've been
thinking of getting a couple of cattle lately, given the prices they
fetch.
jmcquown
Jan 1, 2022, 5:53:32 PM1/1/22
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they used to be very inexpensive.
Jill
Graham
Jan 1, 2022, 5:58:31 PM1/1/22
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groceries etc. for 3. Last week, a modest shop at the SM was over $100,
just for me.
Graham
Jan 1, 2022, 5:59:48 PM1/1/22
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jmcquown
Jan 1, 2022, 6:13:28 PM1/1/22
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steak & kidney pie which is something I've always wanted to try. Not
even the stand-alone butcher shop can get them.
BTW, Graham, I was going to post separately but your recipe for seafood
lasagna is fabulous (yep, I made sure the tomatoes were well drained and
made extra sauce). I'll likely only make it once a year. I forgot to
ask if you think the leftovers would freeze well.
Jill
dsi1
Jan 1, 2022, 6:15:57 PM1/1/22
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https://foursquare.com/top-places/honolulu/best-places-oxtails
US Janet
Jan 1, 2022, 6:33:53 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:15:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
I've wanted to try your oxtail soup (it's been detailed on Guy Fieri's
show a couple times.) But I am reluctant to give up my soup which I
favor so much. Maybe if I get that 10 pound box.
Janet US
wrote:
show a couple times.) But I am reluctant to give up my soup which I
favor so much. Maybe if I get that 10 pound box.
Janet US
US Janet
Jan 1, 2022, 6:36:21 PM1/1/22
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crops because of the hangups that went on last year. They are
switching to crops that don't require as much water.
There go the prices again.
Janet US
Graham
Jan 1, 2022, 6:43:33 PM1/1/22
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difficult though, that once a year is appropriate. I normally make it
for xmas night but also made it for my D-I-L's birthday as they couldn't
dine out due to covid.
I think they would freeze well. My D-I-L found some in her freezer a few
weeks ago and said it was great. I was surprised she'd frozen any as she
usually snacks on the leftovers and finishes it that day:-)
This year, I had some leftover sauce and made a Fisherman's Pie with
some leftover sole and shrimps, to which I added some salmon. It was
topped with mashed taters and browned in a 400F oven.
Graham
dsi1
Jan 1, 2022, 6:52:26 PM1/1/22
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I bought a smoked pork shin the other day. I'll try to make something edible out of it.
Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 7:01:41 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:52:23 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
By the time the western world has cleaned up its act, retard countries
like China, Russia and India will still be stinking the place up and
eating all the meat they can slaughter.
wrote:
like China, Russia and India will still be stinking the place up and
eating all the meat they can slaughter.
Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 7:09:42 PM1/1/22
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 11:01:35 +1100, Bruce <Br...@notreal.invalid>
wrote:
Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.
wrote:
Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 7:10:19 PM1/1/22
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Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 7:10:43 PM1/1/22
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Hank Rogers
Jan 1, 2022, 7:21:37 PM1/1/22
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holes, master.
Hank Rogers
Jan 1, 2022, 7:24:33 PM1/1/22
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Hank Rogers
Jan 1, 2022, 7:27:21 PM1/1/22
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call you. That is always your job.
Jeßus
Jan 1, 2022, 7:37:45 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 16:36:14 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
Yep. Prices for everything are only going to rise for the foreseeable
future. The past year has been difficult tying to get ahold of many
items here in Aus. I'm waiting months for a lot of stuff I've ordered,
car parts and the like. A lot of items are simply not being
manufactured overseas or locally.
future. The past year has been difficult tying to get ahold of many
items here in Aus. I'm waiting months for a lot of stuff I've ordered,
car parts and the like. A lot of items are simply not being
manufactured overseas or locally.
Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 8:20:44 PM1/1/22
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 11:37:32 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 16:36:14 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
>wrote:
>>
>On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 16:36:14 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>I read somewhere yesterday that animal farmers are switching to other
>>crops because of the hangups that went on last year. They are
>>switching to crops that don't require as much water.
>>There go the prices again.
>
>Yep. Prices for everything are only going to rise for the foreseeable
>future. The past year has been difficult tying to get ahold of many
>items here in Aus.
We've never had any problem whatsoever.
>>crops because of the hangups that went on last year. They are
>>switching to crops that don't require as much water.
>>There go the prices again.
>
>Yep. Prices for everything are only going to rise for the foreseeable
>future. The past year has been difficult tying to get ahold of many
>items here in Aus.
Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 8:32:59 PM1/1/22
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 12:20:38 +1100, Bruce <Br...@notreal.invalid>
wrote:
wrote:
Bruce
Jan 1, 2022, 8:35:40 PM1/1/22
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Michael Trew
Jan 1, 2022, 10:08:28 PM1/1/22
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amount would be even pricier. My local grocer doesn't carry those. A
fancy grocer would likely charge an arm and a leg.
Michael Trew
Jan 1, 2022, 10:13:02 PM1/1/22
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wasteful people tend to be, and they throw away good meat. If the price
of meat skyrockets and it becomes a delicacy like it was centuries ago,
people wouldn't throw out good meat. Scraps and bones would be made
into stock, not out of the window ;)
Sqwertz
Jan 1, 2022, 10:40:07 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet wrote:
> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> Sigh [:(
> Janet US
> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> Sigh [:(
$18/lb is more than USDA Prime Ribeye. Looks like they're about
$10/lb here. Still ridiculous.
https://www.heb.com/product-detail/fresh-beef-oxtails-value-pack-avg-2-55-lbs/474143
-sw
Sqwertz
Jan 1, 2022, 10:43:58 PM1/1/22
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 18:13:18 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/1/2022 5:59 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-01-01 3:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 1/1/2022 15:13, US Janet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>>>> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>>>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>>>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>>>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>>>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>>>> Sigh [:(
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find
>>>> out.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
>>> they used to be very inexpensive.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> I wonder if offal will come into favour again:-)
>
> Who knows? I've never been able to find beef or lamb kidneys to make a
> steak & kidney pie which is something I've always wanted to try. Not
> even the stand-alone butcher shop can get them.
Cross them off your culinary bucket list - they taste like fermented
> On 1/1/2022 5:59 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-01-01 3:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 1/1/2022 15:13, US Janet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>>>> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>>>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>>>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>>>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>>>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>>>> Sigh [:(
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find
>>>> out.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
>>> they used to be very inexpensive.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> I wonder if offal will come into favour again:-)
>
> Who knows? I've never been able to find beef or lamb kidneys to make a
> steak & kidney pie which is something I've always wanted to try. Not
> even the stand-alone butcher shop can get them.
piss no matter how you soak and rinse them. Heart, liver, thymus,
pancreas, tongue, and even eyeballs are fine - but piss on those
kidneys.
-sw
Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 12:13:24 AM1/2/22
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:43:53 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
wrote:
US Janet
Jan 2, 2022, 1:46:44 AM1/2/22
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once a year.
Jnet US
US Janet
Jan 2, 2022, 1:54:44 AM1/2/22
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:40:00 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
I haven't seen oxtails that look that good in a while.
I wonder if your store delivers out this far? ;)
Janet US
wrote:
I wonder if your store delivers out this far? ;)
Janet US
Dave Smith
Jan 2, 2022, 9:15:08 AM1/2/22
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On 2022-01-02 1:54 a.m., US Janet wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:40:00 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
>>
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:40:00 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
>>
>> $18/lb is more than USDA Prime Ribeye. Looks like they're about
>> $10/lb here. Still ridiculous.
>>
>> https://www.heb.com/product-detail/fresh-beef-oxtails-value-pack-avg-2-55-lbs/474143
>>
>> -sw
>
> I haven't seen oxtails that look that good in a while.
> I wonder if your store delivers out this far? ;)
>
They do look good. I have seen packages of tails where there was only
>> $10/lb here. Still ridiculous.
>>
>> https://www.heb.com/product-detail/fresh-beef-oxtails-value-pack-avg-2-55-lbs/474143
>>
>> -sw
>
> I haven't seen oxtails that look that good in a while.
> I wonder if your store delivers out this far? ;)
>
an once or two of actual meat in a pack of four.
Bryan Simmons
Jan 2, 2022, 9:40:03 AM1/2/22
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jmcquown
Jan 2, 2022, 1:03:26 PM1/2/22
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> This year, I had some leftover sauce and made a Fisherman's Pie with
> some leftover sole and shrimps, to which I added some salmon. It was
> topped with mashed taters and browned in a 400F oven.
> Graham
Jill
bruce bowser
Jan 2, 2022, 1:05:57 PM1/2/22
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 3:14:05 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
I'm with ya on that! But, here in NYC, women are far more wanton and more single-minded than marriage-minded and they're particular and the girls here are willing to battle everyone else over the slightest things, so expensive grocery store food is likely to cause another battle, maybe causing the store managers (or buyers) to find cheaper stuff that still has quality.
> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
Quality of food is sooo important in NYC like it is in London and Paris.
Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 1:34:55 PM1/2/22
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Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 1:37:10 PM1/2/22
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Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 1:37:12 PM1/2/22
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 4:53:32 PM UTC-6, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
> On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > On 1/1/2022 15:13, US Janet wrote:
> >>
> >> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> >> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> >> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> >> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> >> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> >> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> >>
> >> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> >> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> >> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> >> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> >> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> >> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> >> Sigh [:(
> >> Janet US
> >
> > I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find out.
> You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
> they used to be very inexpensive.
>
> Jill
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> >> Janet US
> >
> > I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find out.
> You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
> they used to be very inexpensive.
>
> Jill
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Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 1:40:02 PM1/2/22
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US Janet
Jan 2, 2022, 5:23:50 PM1/2/22
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Janet US
Dave Smith
Jan 2, 2022, 5:32:05 PM1/2/22
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On 2022-01-02 5:23 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 09:15:04 -0500, Dave Smith
>>
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 09:15:04 -0500, Dave Smith
>>
>> They do look good. I have seen packages of tails where there was only
>> an once or two of actual meat in a pack of four.
>>
>
> yep, exactly. Special if you like bone.
The bones have their place in soup, but I am not paying that price for
>> an once or two of actual meat in a pack of four.
>>
>
> yep, exactly. Special if you like bone.
soup bones. There needs to be some meat on them.
bruce bowser
Jan 2, 2022, 5:36:13 PM1/2/22
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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 4:53:32 PM UTC-6, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
> > On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > > On 1/1/2022 15:13, US Janet wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> > >> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> > >> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> > >> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> > >> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> > >> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> > >> Sigh [:(
> > >> Janet US
> > >
> > > I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find out.
> > You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
> > they used to be very inexpensive.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Apps are one of the biggest drains on your phone’s battery.
So is a bright screen.
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 4:53:32 PM UTC-6, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
> > On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > > On 1/1/2022 15:13, US Janet wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> > >> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> > >> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> > >> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> > >> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> > >> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> > >> Sigh [:(
> > >> Janet US
> > >
> > > I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find out.
> > You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
> > they used to be very inexpensive.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Apps are one of the biggest drains on your phone’s battery.
Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 7:51:09 PM1/2/22
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Bruce
Jan 2, 2022, 7:51:23 PM1/2/22
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Bruce
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Sqwertz
Jan 3, 2022, 1:07:26 AM1/3/22
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 23:54:38 -0700, US Janet wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:40:00 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>$18/lb is more than USDA Prime Ribeye. Looks like they're about
>>$10/lb here. Still ridiculous.
>>
>>https://www.heb.com/product-detail/fresh-beef-oxtails-value-pack-avg-2-55-lbs/474143
>
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:40:00 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>$18/lb is more than USDA Prime Ribeye. Looks like they're about
>>$10/lb here. Still ridiculous.
>>
>>https://www.heb.com/product-detail/fresh-beef-oxtails-value-pack-avg-2-55-lbs/474143
>
> I haven't seen oxtails that look that good in a while.
> I wonder if your store delivers out this far? ;)
Here's on of those packages unwrapped. On March 6th that picture of
> I wonder if your store delivers out this far? ;)
mine will be 9 years old.
https://i.postimg.cc/B6kb9cLK/Oxtail-Stew-Raw.jpg
That little boner in the bottom right is a piece of long pepper. I
call it the A-1 Spice (that's what it smells like to me).
-sw
dsi1
Jan 3, 2022, 1:10:14 AM1/3/22
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:15:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
> >On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
> >> On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 07:37:16 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
> >> >Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
> >> >popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
> >> I agree. I've got the last of my stash of oxtails making soup right
> >> now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
> >> Janet US
> >
> >You really like oxtail soup. I saw some really nice oxtails at Costco. They were big and meaty, not like the ones at the supermarket. Those are pretty small. I can't say if you'll find them at your Costco. Oxtail soup is kind of a thing on this rock. The soup served here is mostly Chinese style.
> >
> >https://foursquare.com/top-places/honolulu/best-places-oxtails
> I've wanted to try your oxtail soup (it's been detailed on Guy Fieri's
> show a couple times.) But I am reluctant to give up my soup which I
> favor so much. Maybe if I get that 10 pound box.
> Janet US
Today I made some soup with a pork shank. The shank was braised for about 3 hours with some veggies. Some Korean pepper powder and a can of refried beans was added along with some potatoes and ketchup - for a little brightness and sweetness. I don't add any herbs in soups most times.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/erALVxRd1KeHhbVZ8
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:15:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
> >On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
> >> On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 07:37:16 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> >> >>a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> >> >>Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> >> >>can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> >> >>used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> >> >>enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> >> >>Sigh [:(
> >> >>Janet US
> >> >
> >> >It's the same in Australia, there are no more cheap cuts of meat.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> >> >>a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> >> >>Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> >> >>can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> >> >>used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> >> >>enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> >> >>Sigh [:(
> >> >>Janet US
> >> >
> >> >Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
> >> >popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
> >> I agree. I've got the last of my stash of oxtails making soup right
> >> now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
> >> Janet US
> >
> >You really like oxtail soup. I saw some really nice oxtails at Costco. They were big and meaty, not like the ones at the supermarket. Those are pretty small. I can't say if you'll find them at your Costco. Oxtail soup is kind of a thing on this rock. The soup served here is mostly Chinese style.
> >
> >https://foursquare.com/top-places/honolulu/best-places-oxtails
> I've wanted to try your oxtail soup (it's been detailed on Guy Fieri's
> show a couple times.) But I am reluctant to give up my soup which I
> favor so much. Maybe if I get that 10 pound box.
> Janet US
Today I made some soup with a pork shank. The shank was braised for about 3 hours with some veggies. Some Korean pepper powder and a can of refried beans was added along with some potatoes and ketchup - for a little brightness and sweetness. I don't add any herbs in soups most times.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/erALVxRd1KeHhbVZ8
Janet
Jan 3, 2022, 11:07:37 AM1/3/22
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In article <w15AJ.172515$SW5.1...@fx45.iad>, g.st...@shaw.ca says...
Janet UK
>
> On 2022-01-01 3:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 2022-01-01 3:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 1/1/2022 3:33 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> >> On 1/1/2022 15:13, US Janet wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> >>> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> >>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> >>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> >>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> >>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> >>> Sigh [:(
> >>> Janet US
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
> >>> a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
> >>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
> >>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
> >>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
> >>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> >>> Sigh [:(
> >>> Janet US
> >>
> >> I'd like to try them in a soup, but for that price, I will never find
> >> out.
> >
> > You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
> > they used to be very inexpensive.
> >
> > Jill
> >> out.
> >
> > You wouldn't need a 10 lb. box to make oxtail soup. But she's right,
> > they used to be very inexpensive.
> >
> > Jill
> I wonder if offal will come into favour again:-)
Has it gone out of favour? I hadn't noticed.
Janet UK
US Janet
Jan 3, 2022, 11:20:46 AM1/3/22
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 22:10:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
the flavor in the mouth.
Janet US
have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
the flavor in the mouth.
Janet US
US Janet
Jan 3, 2022, 11:32:21 AM1/3/22
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 00:07:17 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
9 years ago I probably was able to buy packages of oxtails like that
as well. hmmm maybe not.
Janet US
wrote:
as well. hmmm maybe not.
Janet US
dsi1
Jan 3, 2022, 11:37:39 AM1/3/22
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On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
> the flavor in the mouth.
> Janet US
I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
> the flavor in the mouth.
> Janet US
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
Graham
Jan 3, 2022, 12:08:07 PM1/3/22
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Calves' liver is occasionally available in the premium meats section of
SMs but one has to hunt through the freezer section to find kidneys etc.
US Janet
Jan 3, 2022, 12:25:34 PM1/3/22
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
that looks wonderful.
Janet US
wrote:
Janet US
Dave Smith
Jan 3, 2022, 12:25:42 PM1/3/22
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On 2022-01-03 11:20 a.m., US Janet wrote:
>> Today I made some soup with a pork shank. The shank was braised for
>> about 3 hours with some veggies. Some Korean pepper powder and a
>> can of refried beans was added along with some potatoes and ketchup
>> - for a little brightness and sweetness. I don't add any herbs in
>> soups most times.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/erALVxRd1KeHhbVZ8
>
> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
> the flavor in the mouth. Janet US
I get rude surprises when I use fresh thyme, but bay leave adds that
>> Today I made some soup with a pork shank. The shank was braised for
>> about 3 hours with some veggies. Some Korean pepper powder and a
>> can of refried beans was added along with some potatoes and ketchup
>> - for a little brightness and sweetness. I don't add any herbs in
>> soups most times.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/erALVxRd1KeHhbVZ8
>
> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
> the flavor in the mouth. Janet US
certain something that seems to be missing in stews and soups. I don't
know what it is so let's just all it je ne sais quoi.
Mike Duffy
Jan 3, 2022, 12:51:26 PM1/3/22
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 10:25:29 -0700, US Janet wrote:
> that looks wonderful.
Agree. Also, he knows how to focus the camera. I hardly bother to look at
ANY of Sheldon's photos; they are all blurry.
> that looks wonderful.
Agree. Also, he knows how to focus the camera. I hardly bother to look at
ANY of Sheldon's photos; they are all blurry.
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 12:57:12 PM1/3/22
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away to be turned into veal this or that or calf's liver. It's a very
sad sound.
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 2:09:38 PM1/3/22
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:57:05 +1100, Bruce <br...@notreal.invalid>
wrote:
This is my frogger.
wrote:
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 2:16:35 PM1/3/22
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S Viemeister
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Bruce
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Graham
Jan 3, 2022, 3:05:32 PM1/3/22
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years or so by burying it in snow. We are just about to start our second
vicious cold snap this winter, so I hope it survives.
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 3:06:08 PM1/3/22
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Dave Smith
Jan 3, 2022, 4:46:37 PM1/3/22
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without special care. I bought a new one this year because I when I used
the old on in things it tasted horrible. The new one turned out to be
just as bad, and I was using only a little.
We are in a cold snap now. You may not appreciate that it is only -7 C.
It is supposed to be about +4 for the next two days. That will be
enough to melt the little bit of snow we have so it can turn into ice at
night when it drops below freezing.
dsi1
Jan 3, 2022, 4:55:55 PM1/3/22
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An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 4:58:22 PM1/3/22
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US Janet
Jan 3, 2022, 7:37:07 PM1/3/22
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 13:55:51 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
recipe that I can try or is it an off the cuff addition of yours?
Answers needed by a soup cook in winter mode!
Janet US
wrote:
>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:25:34 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> >> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>> >> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>> >> the flavor in the mouth.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
>> that looks wonderful.
>> Janet US
>
>My family doesn't like the whole peppercorns in the adobo but I love crunching down on them.
>An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
I don't have a recipe for refried beans in soup. Is there an actual
>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:25:34 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> >> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>> >> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>> >> the flavor in the mouth.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
>> that looks wonderful.
>> Janet US
>
>My family doesn't like the whole peppercorns in the adobo but I love crunching down on them.
>An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
recipe that I can try or is it an off the cuff addition of yours?
Answers needed by a soup cook in winter mode!
Janet US
US Janet
Jan 3, 2022, 7:42:32 PM1/3/22
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deck. I'm afraid this winter will have killed it with 1F.
Gosh that sounds awful in centigrade, - 17.111? Did I get that right?
Anyway, 1F is cold enough that many year end festivities were
cancelled here. The Polar Bear Plunge became virtual. (Thank
heavens!) lots of stuff didn't work this year.
Janet US
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 8:23:12 PM1/3/22
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:37:02 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 13:55:51 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:25:34 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> >> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>>> >> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>>> >> the flavor in the mouth.
>>> >> Janet US
>>> >
>>> >I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>>> >
>>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
>>> that looks wonderful.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>My family doesn't like the whole peppercorns in the adobo but I love crunching down on them.
>>An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
>
>I don't have a recipe for refried beans in soup. Is there an actual
>recipe that I can try or is it an off the cuff addition of yours?
>Answers needed by a soup cook in winter mode!
>Janet US
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))
>On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 13:55:51 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:25:34 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> >> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>>> >> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>>> >> the flavor in the mouth.
>>> >> Janet US
>>> >
>>> >I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>>> >
>>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
>>> that looks wonderful.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>My family doesn't like the whole peppercorns in the adobo but I love crunching down on them.
>>An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
>
>I don't have a recipe for refried beans in soup. Is there an actual
>recipe that I can try or is it an off the cuff addition of yours?
>Answers needed by a soup cook in winter mode!
>Janet US
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 8:23:28 PM1/3/22
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Graham
Jan 3, 2022, 8:52:17 PM1/3/22
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windchills pushing -40C, which equals -40F.
In other words, bloody cold!
Bruce
Jan 3, 2022, 8:58:13 PM1/3/22
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part of Canada?
Dave Smith
Jan 3, 2022, 9:39:15 PM1/3/22
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Dec.6 1976 I arrived in Winnipeg to look for a job. It was -40. Holy
crap. That was a whole new dimension of cold for me. I didn't look very
hard for a job. I didn't want to live in a city where it could get that
cold. I went back to the banana belt.
dsi1
Jan 3, 2022, 10:20:46 PM1/3/22
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Bruce 1
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:58:07 +1100, Bruce <br...@notreal.invalid>
This is my frogger.
Bruce 1
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Bruce 1
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Bruce 1
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Bruce 1
Jan 3, 2022, 11:10:13 PM1/3/22
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 13:55:51 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:25:34 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> >> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>> >> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>> >> the flavor in the mouth.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
>> that looks wonderful.
>> Janet US
>
>My family doesn't like the whole peppercorns in the adobo but I love crunching down on them.
>An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:25:34 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> >> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>> >> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>> >> the flavor in the mouth.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
>> that looks wonderful.
>> Janet US
>
>My family doesn't like the whole peppercorns in the adobo but I love crunching down on them.
>An interesting thing about using refried beans in soup is that it seems that you don't get a problem with gas. How awesome is that?
Bruce 1
Jan 3, 2022, 11:10:41 PM1/3/22
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US Janet
Jan 4, 2022, 1:38:17 AM1/4/22
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:20:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
I'll have to think where it would be used most successfully.
This week will be Chicken Tortilla Soup. Last week was Oxtail Soup.
The chicken tortilla soup mostly because the fixings are taking up too
much in the freezer. I have a big freezer bag of onions, celery,
carrots, mushrooms for stock and another bag of chicken bones and
carcass pieces. I love chicken tortilla soup I love all the
vegetables. As far as I'm concerned the chicken is for flavor, the
meat gets in the way.
Janet US
This week will be Chicken Tortilla Soup. Last week was Oxtail Soup.
The chicken tortilla soup mostly because the fixings are taking up too
much in the freezer. I have a big freezer bag of onions, celery,
carrots, mushrooms for stock and another bag of chicken bones and
carcass pieces. I love chicken tortilla soup I love all the
vegetables. As far as I'm concerned the chicken is for flavor, the
meat gets in the way.
Janet US
US Janet
Jan 4, 2022, 1:41:22 AM1/4/22
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let the children go out to play when the temps reached 10F.
Janet US
Bruce 3
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:37:36 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
wrote:
>On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:20:46 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>> If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>> the flavor in the mouth.
>> Janet US
>
>> have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>> the flavor in the mouth.
>> Janet US
>
>I have a big container of bay leaves. It would work fine in this soup. I use a lot of bay leaves and whole black peppercorns in Filipino adobo.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZjHbHFXuJGz2Ns2C8
Michael Trew
Jan 4, 2022, 2:48:18 PM1/4/22
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adding them to my chili. It takes the place of ground beef, thickens it
nicely, and saves money as well.
Michael Trew
Jan 4, 2022, 2:49:13 PM1/4/22
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soup here as well.
Michael Trew
Jan 4, 2022, 2:51:25 PM1/4/22
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about the warmest time of year, yet it got down into the low 50's one
night while camping! Brr...
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Bruce 4
Jan 4, 2022, 3:08:21 PM1/4/22
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Bruce 5
Jan 4, 2022, 3:50:44 PM1/4/22
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:20:41 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 22:10:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:15:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> >> On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 07:37:16 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>> >> >>a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>> >> >>Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>> >> >>can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>> >> >>used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>> >> >>enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>> >> >>Sigh [:(
>>> >> >>Janet US
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It's the same in Australia, there are no more cheap cuts of meat.
>>> >> >Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
>>> >> >popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
>>> >> I agree. I've got the last of my stash of oxtails making soup right
>>> >> now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
>>> >> Janet US
>>> >
>>> >You really like oxtail soup. I saw some really nice oxtails at Costco. They were big and meaty, not like the ones at the supermarket. Those are pretty small. I can't say if you'll find them at your Costco. Oxtail soup is kind of a thing on this rock. The soup served here is mostly Chinese style.
>>> >
>>> >https://foursquare.com/top-places/honolulu/best-places-oxtails
>>> I've wanted to try your oxtail soup (it's been detailed on Guy Fieri's
>>> show a couple times.) But I am reluctant to give up my soup which I
>>> favor so much. Maybe if I get that 10 pound box.
>>> Janet US
wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 22:10:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:15:54 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
>>> >> On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 07:37:16 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:13:59 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order
>>> >> >>a 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.
>>> >> >>Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I
>>> >> >>can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails
>>> >> >>used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I
>>> >> >>enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
>>> >> >>Sigh [:(
>>> >> >>Janet US
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It's the same in Australia, there are no more cheap cuts of meat.
>>> >> >Things like shanks and shoulders used to be cheap, then became more
>>> >> >popular on cooking shows... now, all cuts are expensive.
>>> >> I agree. I've got the last of my stash of oxtails making soup right
>>> >> now. That 10 pound box cost $60/
>>> >> Janet US
>>> >
>>> >You really like oxtail soup. I saw some really nice oxtails at Costco. They were big and meaty, not like the ones at the supermarket. Those are pretty small. I can't say if you'll find them at your Costco. Oxtail soup is kind of a thing on this rock. The soup served here is mostly Chinese style.
>>> >
>>> >https://foursquare.com/top-places/honolulu/best-places-oxtails
>>> I've wanted to try your oxtail soup (it's been detailed on Guy Fieri's
>>> show a couple times.) But I am reluctant to give up my soup which I
>>> favor so much. Maybe if I get that 10 pound box.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Today I made some soup with a pork shank. The shank was braised for about 3 hours with some veggies. Some Korean pepper powder and a can of refried beans was added along with some potatoes and ketchup - for a little brightness and sweetness. I don't add any herbs in soups most times.
>>
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/erALVxRd1KeHhbVZ8
>
>>Today I made some soup with a pork shank. The shank was braised for about 3 hours with some veggies. Some Korean pepper powder and a can of refried beans was added along with some potatoes and ketchup - for a little brightness and sweetness. I don't add any herbs in soups most times.
>>
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/erALVxRd1KeHhbVZ8
>
>If you are like what you make, why bother? I never did either but
>have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>the flavor in the mouth.
>Janet US
Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.
>have finally begun adding bay leaf and thyme as I find they do round
>the flavor in the mouth.
>Janet US
dsi1
Jan 4, 2022, 6:03:23 PM1/4/22
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dsi1
Jan 4, 2022, 6:18:15 PM1/4/22
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On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 8:38:17 PM UTC-10, US Janet wrote:
> I'll have to think where it would be used most successfully.
> This week will be Chicken Tortilla Soup. Last week was Oxtail Soup.
> The chicken tortilla soup mostly because the fixings are taking up too
> much in the freezer. I have a big freezer bag of onions, celery,
> carrots, mushrooms for stock and another bag of chicken bones and
> carcass pieces. I love chicken tortilla soup I love all the
> vegetables. As far as I'm concerned the chicken is for flavor, the
> meat gets in the way.
> Janet US
Well okay, I'll have to make some tortilla soup soon. My wife loves soup!
> I'll have to think where it would be used most successfully.
> This week will be Chicken Tortilla Soup. Last week was Oxtail Soup.
> The chicken tortilla soup mostly because the fixings are taking up too
> much in the freezer. I have a big freezer bag of onions, celery,
> carrots, mushrooms for stock and another bag of chicken bones and
> carcass pieces. I love chicken tortilla soup I love all the
> vegetables. As far as I'm concerned the chicken is for flavor, the
> meat gets in the way.
> Janet US
This morning I ate some vinah d'alhos - Portuguese vinegar marinated pork. It's pork braised in vinegar. My wife ordered it at a restaurant and I got leftovers. It's a real treat! The braised pork is cut up and fried to make it crispy. I like to give it a shot of vinegar while frying. It's an intense dish - luckily, we got white rice to tame it down.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2wRer6Z38cx65RZo8
Bruce
Jan 4, 2022, 6:26:44 PM1/4/22
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On 2022-01-02 18:05:54 +0000, bruce bowser said:
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 3:14:05 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order> a
>> 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.>
>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I>
>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails>
>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I>
>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> I'm with ya on that! But, here in NYC, women are far more wanton and
> more single-minded than marriage-minded and they're particular and the
> girls here are willing to battle everyone else over the slightest
> things, so expensive grocery store food is likely to cause another
> battle, maybe causing the store managers (or buyers) to find cheaper
> stuff that still has quality.
>
> Quality of food is sooo important in NYC like it is in London and Paris.
Yes only in NYC, London and Paris is food quality of importance.
The women are single minded cause all they have is either you or pOp-Eye.
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 3:14:05 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>> I couldn't find oxtails anywhere. I finally found that I could order> a
>> 10 pound box of them thru Cash and Carry, a restaurant supply store.>
>> Price has gone up. I can get a 10 pound box of oxtails for $180.00. I>
>> can remember when even a good cut of steak was not that high. Oxtails>
>> used to be offal that was sold cheap. So many of the foods that I>
>> enjoyed as a young wife were inexpensive to make and tasty.
> more single-minded than marriage-minded and they're particular and the
> girls here are willing to battle everyone else over the slightest
> things, so expensive grocery store food is likely to cause another
> battle, maybe causing the store managers (or buyers) to find cheaper
> stuff that still has quality.
>
> Quality of food is sooo important in NYC like it is in London and Paris.
Yes only in NYC, London and Paris is food quality of importance.
The women are single minded cause all they have is either you or pOp-Eye.
Bruce
Jan 4, 2022, 6:28:27 PM1/4/22
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Obama. Beto was never going to make it to the national stage from Texas. Too many people caught onto him
before he could get anywhere.
With Obama, who lucked into an easy, virtually uncontested Senate seat in Illinois, huge numbers of voters were ready
to be suckered into his grand oratory which basically meant nothing. "Yes, we can" turned out to mean nothing more
than "yes, we can" elect Barack Obama. A whole lot of people (even conservatives who didn't vote for him) were
positive about the election of the First Black President, which is what put him over the top.
I am looking forward to the day when spouting meaningless platitudes turns off more voters than it attracts - that is, when
voters start getting a little smarter. I may be waiting a long time.
Bruce 6
Jan 4, 2022, 6:34:20 PM1/4/22
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 15:28:23 -0800 (PST), Greg Sorrow
<ascottis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You'd think the voting public would have had enough of meaningless-platitude-spouting politicians after Beto and
>Obama. Beto was never going to make it to the national stage from Texas. Too many people caught onto him
>before he could get anywhere.
Who's Beto?
<ascottis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You'd think the voting public would have had enough of meaningless-platitude-spouting politicians after Beto and
>Obama. Beto was never going to make it to the national stage from Texas. Too many people caught onto him
>before he could get anywhere.
>With Obama, who lucked into an easy, virtually uncontested Senate seat in Illinois, huge numbers of voters were ready
> to be suckered into his grand oratory which basically meant nothing. "Yes, we can" turned out to mean nothing more
>than "yes, we can" elect Barack Obama. A whole lot of people (even conservatives who didn't vote for him) were
>positive about the election of the First Black President, which is what put him over the top.
<https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/screen-shot-2020-11-16-at-6-02-35-pm-1605567774.png>
>I am looking forward to the day when spouting meaningless platitudes turns off more voters than it attracts - that is, when
>voters start getting a little smarter. I may be waiting a long time.
similar clowns.
Dave Smith
Jan 4, 2022, 6:52:56 PM1/4/22
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On 2022-01-04 6:18 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> Well okay, I'll have to make some tortilla soup soon. My wife loves
> soup! This morning I ate some vinah d'alhos - Portuguese vinegar
> marinated pork. It's pork braised in vinegar. My wife ordered it at a
> restaurant and I got leftovers. It's a real treat! The braised pork
> is cut up and fried to make it crispy. I like to give it a shot of
> vinegar while frying. It's an intense dish - luckily, we got white
> rice to tame it down.
>
Just before this pandemic shut down the border we had been up to Ottawa
> Well okay, I'll have to make some tortilla soup soon. My wife loves
> soup! This morning I ate some vinah d'alhos - Portuguese vinegar
> marinated pork. It's pork braised in vinegar. My wife ordered it at a
> restaurant and I got leftovers. It's a real treat! The braised pork
> is cut up and fried to make it crispy. I like to give it a shot of
> vinegar while frying. It's an intense dish - luckily, we got white
> rice to tame it down.
>
and had taken a short cut through NY state. On the way home we stopped
for supper in Pulaski NY and ate in a Brazilian restaurant. I ordered
the roast pork and it had been braised with vinegar. It was delicious. I
had not realized that had been adopted from their days as a Portuguese
colony. I don't know why that hasn't caught on in the rest of the world.
dsi1
Jan 4, 2022, 7:42:26 PM1/4/22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-un-LUjRX14
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