June 05, 2020 Dinner

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Tonight it will be country-style pork ribs baked/roasted in the oven.
I was able to pick up a marked down package at the grocery store and
there's enough for two meals. The two accompanying side dishes will
be an envelope of Lipton's cheesy-broccoli rice and a can of green
beans. Since there will be enough for two meals I'll probably opt to
go ahead and cook two cans of green beans.

No barbecue sauce will be involved! If I think the ribs need a dribble
of something it will be Heinz 57 sauce.

What's coming out of your kitchen this Friday evening?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Looks like it'll be shrimp cocktail, tossed salad, and fresh bread.

Cindy Hamilton

[GM]

Sounds nice!

Meatloaf sammiches and broccoli slaw for me, a chunk of Toblerone for dessert...also making Sweet 'n Sour sauce for SnS chicken I'll be preparing tomorrow...getting warm and muggy so summer - type food is now on my radar...

The farmers market is now open on Saturdays, but so far long lines to get in...maybe later on...some vendors now require ordering in advance, then you pick up...

Our small college town Target was closed and boarded up for a few daze, but it is now open (there was just one very orderly march, organized by local HS kids, no other drama)...get most of my stuff anyways from Amazon Fresh/Pantry, it is now operating pretty normally. Am using down my pantry/frozen items, as several months ago I really stocked up...stores seem better - stocked from what I know...

--
Best
Greg

[GM]

Hmmm, very nice, will pick up some shrimp tomorrow...

--
Best
Greg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 1:23:49 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Looks like it'll be shrimp cocktail, tossed salad, and fresh bread.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Oooooh, that sounds good. Will you have the shrimp on top of the salad or
on the side? Either way sounds good to me.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 1:24:26 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>
> Meatloaf sammiches and broccoli slaw for me, a chunk of Toblerone for dessert...also making Sweet 'n Sour sauce for SnS chicken I'll be preparing tomorrow...getting warm and muggy so summer - type food is now on my radar...
>

Sounds tempting.

>
> The farmers market is now open on Saturdays, but so far long lines to get in...maybe later on...some vendors now require ordering in advance, then you pick up...
>

Ugh, our farmers market is the same way. I want to see what I'm buying not
someone picking out my fresh vegetables for me.

>
> Our small college town Target was closed and boarded up for a few daze, but it is now open (there was just one very orderly march, organized by local HS kids, no other drama)...get most of my stuff anyways from Amazon Fresh/Pantry, it is now operating pretty normally. Am using down my pantry/frozen items, as several months ago I really stocked up...stores seem better - stocked from what I know...
>

From week to week the stores seem to go in waves in what is available. Last
week for example there were full shelves of laundry detergent. This week they
were pretty bare. This week Kroger had bulging shelves of paper towels but
pretty empty last week. Last week the shelves were full of eggs, this week
they seemed to be in short supply.

It's an adventure to go to the grocery store every week now. Hahahaha

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 12:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>Sounds tempting.
>>
>> The farmers market is now open on Saturdays, but so far long lines to get in...maybe later on...some vendors now require ordering in advance, then you pick up...
>>
>Ugh, our farmers market is the same way. I want to see what I'm buying not
>someone picking out my fresh vegetables for me.
>>
>> Our small college town Target was closed and boarded up for a few daze, but it is now open (there was just one very orderly march, organized by local HS kids, no other drama)...get most of my stuff anyways from Amazon Fresh/Pantry, it is now operating pretty normally. Am using down my pantry/frozen items, as several months ago I really stocked up...stores seem better - stocked from what I know...
>>
>From week to week the stores seem to go in waves in what is available. Last
>week for example there were full shelves of laundry detergent. This week they
>were pretty bare. This week Kroger had bulging shelves of paper towels but
>pretty empty last week. Last week the shelves were full of eggs, this week
>they seemed to be in short supply.
>
>It's an adventure to go to the grocery store every week now. Hahahaha

I think a lot is back to normal here. Everything's available, no
restrictions, pretty busy in town. Australia's been very lucky with
"only" around a 100 dead. Compare that to 110,000 and counting in the
US. Countries whose leader took a long time to take corona seriously,
are really suffering.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 2:31:53 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> I think a lot is back to normal here. Everything's available, no
> restrictions, pretty busy in town. Australia's been very lucky with
> "only" around a 100 dead. Compare that to 110,000 and counting in the
> US. Countries whose leader took a long time to take corona seriously,
> are really suffering.
>

Grocery stores are pretty much back to normal here as well. There was always
plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables and bread. But the canned goods seemed
to disappear quickly and of course paper goods. The first week what astonished
me were the bare pet food shelves! What seems to be the 'hot' item to buy
each week is surprising.

I can say one thing that was always in full supply and being stocked constantly
was beer. Just in passing the shelves of wine weren't lacking and neither
were the colas and 'fruit' waters. But I haven't paid any attention to the
demand of bottled water; I don't even venture down that aisle.

[dsi1]

My wife's dinner was steak, with spicy eggplant, and breaded oysters. The oysters came out looking pale because they were cooked in an air fryer - not a good idea. Next time they'll be deep fried.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/dnLPxQMRRkmy70l6tOmJew.pXKQtCiQ_KESqlJh9i8u9C

[GM]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 1:24:26 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> >
> > Meatloaf sammiches and broccoli slaw for me, a chunk of Toblerone for dessert...also making Sweet 'n Sour sauce for SnS chicken I'll be preparing tomorrow...getting warm and muggy so summer - type food is now on my radar...
> >
> Sounds tempting.
> >
> > The farmers market is now open on Saturdays, but so far long lines to get in...maybe later on...some vendors now require ordering in advance, then you pick up...
> >
> Ugh, our farmers market is the same way. I want to see what I'm buying not
> someone picking out my fresh vegetables for me.

Same here, stuff is pre - bagged...

> > Our small college town Target was closed and boarded up for a few daze, but it is now open (there was just one very orderly march, organized by local HS kids, no other drama)...get most of my stuff anyways from Amazon Fresh/Pantry, it is now operating pretty normally. Am using down my pantry/frozen items, as several months ago I really stocked up...stores seem better - stocked from what I know...
> >
> From week to week the stores seem to go in waves in what is available. Last
> week for example there were full shelves of laundry detergent. This week they
> were pretty bare. This week Kroger had bulging shelves of paper towels but
> pretty empty last week. Last week the shelves were full of eggs, this week
> they seemed to be in short supply.
>
> It's an adventure to go to the grocery store every week now. Hahahaha

Well, things are improving, from the foodie forums I haunt different stores in different areas can vary wildly, even amongst the same chains. For awhiles there was a meat "shortage", but I've been able to get everything I need, albeit at sometimes higher prices, e.g. the one - pound chuck steaks I order from Amazon Fresh almost doubled in price to ten bux. A poster on LTH Forum (link below) IIRC said that for awhiles canned tomaters were kinda scarce, etc.:

https://www.lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=45608&sid=6bc5143a4dc71043ac2da7613fdc8883

Back a few months or even weeks ago it was like shopping in the old USSR or East Germany*, you could not plan on specific items being available either in person or online, for awhiles I had to weigh whether to consume certain items, common stuff like Diet Coke, facial tissues, frozen veg, canned staples, etc. thinking, "What if these items become really scarce, do I REALLY need that tissue or can of soda..." Could not order from Amazon Fresh for a month, even Prime Pantry was pretty dire. Now all seems to be ramping up pretty well, but still have to scrounge for odd bits such as facial tissue...

Today I felt like I won the lottery, found a case of hydrogen peroxide on Amazon, 12 32oz bottles for $20.00...NIRVANA...!!! But isopropyl alcohol is still scarce or skank expensive...

Anyways, I'm a singleton, at least I don't have to provide for a family...

[*peeps in the old communist nations always carried a string or other shopping bag, referred to as a "perhaps bag". If you saw a queue of shoppers, you knew something decent was on sale, so you would have your shopping bag with you and line up to buy detergent, batteries, tomatoes, decent meat, pantyhose, imported chocolate, real coffee, car parts, tampons or citrus or whatever. This was why communism eventually fell, citizens were simply EXHAUSTED from the hunt for basic goods - even in the more 'prosperous' places such as East Germany, Czechoslovakia..]

--
Best
Greg

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

You cook oysters? Deep fry them? You are not worthy of the oyster!

[Cindy Hamilton]

On the side, dipped in cocktail sauce.

I'll probably cook more shrimp than we'll eat, and have the leftovers
on a salad tomorrow.

Cindy

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:48:15 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 2:31:53 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > I think a lot is back to normal here. Everything's available, no
> > restrictions, pretty busy in town. Australia's been very lucky with
> > "only" around a 100 dead. Compare that to 110,000 and counting in the
> > US. Countries whose leader took a long time to take corona seriously,
> > are really suffering.
> >
> Grocery stores are pretty much back to normal here as well. There was always
> plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables and bread. But the canned goods seemed
> to disappear quickly and of course paper goods. The first week what astonished
> me were the bare pet food shelves! What seems to be the 'hot' item to buy
> each week is surprising.

Grape Nuts. For several weeks Grape Nuts cereal was in short
supply. Who the heck hoards Grape Nuts?

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:07:41 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> My wife's dinner was steak, with spicy eggplant, and breaded oysters. The oysters came out looking pale because they were cooked in an air fryer - not a good idea. Next time they'll be deep fried.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/dnLPxQMRRkmy70l6tOmJew.pXKQtCiQ_KESqlJh9i8u9C
>

The steak looks good.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:31:00 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:20:46 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 1:23:49 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like it'll be shrimp cocktail, tossed salad, and fresh bread.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > Oooooh, that sounds good. Will you have the shrimp on top of the salad or
> > on the side? Either way sounds good to me.
>
> On the side, dipped in cocktail sauce.
>

If I were there you'd probably have to cook several pounds. Hahaha, love
shrimp cocktail.

>
> I'll probably cook more shrimp than we'll eat, and have the leftovers
> on a salad tomorrow.
>
> Cindy
>

Smart move. It will be nice and chilled and ready to dig into.

[dsi1]

I'll sometimes eat them raw if I see a live/fresh oyster. If it's frozen or in a jar, it gets cooked. I'm not a big fan of these things. Eating more than a couple and I'll start to feeling sick.

[Bruce]

I've never even heard of it.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

It must be someone who is perpetually constipated!

I like to keep frozen chopped onions on hand. I haven't seen a package of
those in at least a month. Bag after bag, after bag, after bag of riced
cauliflower though.

>:o(

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

Frozen or jarred? I guess there's not much to lose then.

[Dave Smith]

Lions Club fish fry. My wife is at the park picking it up now.

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's an American cereal noted for being healthful:

whole grain wheat flour, malted barley flour, isolated soy protein, salt, whole grain barley flour, malt extract and dried yeast


It resembles grape seeds.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grape-Nuts>

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 4:41:54 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:32:24 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:48:15 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > > What seems to be the 'hot' item to buy
> > > each week is surprising.
> >
> > Grape Nuts. For several weeks Grape Nuts cereal was in short
> > supply. Who the heck hoards Grape Nuts?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> It must be someone who is perpetually constipated!

My husband eats Grape Nuts, although not for that reason. He finds it
has more "staying power" than other cereals, which leave him hungry
soon afterward.

Cindy Hamilton

[graham]

The small s/m near me that I use had lots of packets of yeast the other
day but very little flour.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

It might be available here. I think there are dozens of cereals
available at the supermarket here. I never look there.

[Dave Smith]

I know someone who buys it by the case. He lives in Toronto and he makes
routine shopping trips to NY state primarily for Grape Nuts. I had
thought that they were not as good as they used to be and he said they
had changed the recipe in Canada but the US version was unchanged. I
bought some in NY and I have to agree they are more like the old style.
So ... yes, Jon buys it by the case.

[Dave Smith]

You have to be careful not to eat too much of it. A little goes a long
way. A lot goes through you quickly.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:39:35 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I'll sometimes eat them raw if I see a live/fresh oyster. If it's frozen or in a jar, it gets cooked. I'm not a big fan of these things. Eating more than a couple and I'll start to feeling sick.
>

If they are those tiny smoked oysters I can handle those. Or oysters
Rockefeller; I guess it's all that yummy crumb topping that I like.

[graham]

My memory of them is that I persuaded Mum to buy me some after seeing
them advertised as having been part of the provisions for the successful
1953 Everest climb.

[Bruce]

A fresh oyster's like a mouthful of ocean. Smoked and canned it could
be anything, you mainly taste oil and smoke.

[dsi1]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 8:24:26 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Tonight it will be country-style pork ribs baked/roasted in the oven.
> > I was able to pick up a marked down package at the grocery store and
> > there's enough for two meals. The two accompanying side dishes will
> > be an envelope of Lipton's cheesy-broccoli rice and a can of green
> > beans. Since there will be enough for two meals I'll probably opt to
> > go ahead and cook two cans of green beans.
> >
> > No barbecue sauce will be involved! If I think the ribs need a dribble

> > of something it will be Heinz 57 sauce.
> >
> > What's coming out of your kitchen this Friday evening?
>
>

> Sounds nice!

>
> Meatloaf sammiches and broccoli slaw for me, a chunk of Toblerone for dessert...also making Sweet 'n Sour sauce for SnS chicken I'll be preparing tomorrow...getting warm and muggy so summer - type food is now on my radar...
>

> The farmers market is now open on Saturdays, but so far long lines to get in...maybe later on...some vendors now require ordering in advance, then you pick up...
>

> Our small college town Target was closed and boarded up for a few daze, but it is now open (there was just one very orderly march, organized by local HS kids, no other drama)...get most of my stuff anyways from Amazon Fresh/Pantry, it is now operating pretty normally. Am using down my pantry/frozen items, as several months ago I really stocked up...stores seem better - stocked from what I know...
>

> --
> Best
> Greg

Toblerone is an interesting food item. Some folks will tell you that the shape represents the shape of a famous mountain in Switzerland. What I heard is that it was inspired by a woman's pubic triangle - not anybody in particular but all women in general. What's the truth? Beats me.

[dsi1]

About I month ago, I was on the lookout for some yeast but there was none to be found. Then my daughter got a bottle of yeast from her friend and I picked up a pound of yeast from a food service market. Then my daughter found another bottle of yeast in the back of the refrigerator. We're up to our ears in yeast in this house. This morning I saw 15 lbs of flour on the stove. We already got some bags of flour in the cabinets. Beats the heck out of me why that is. I now feel compelled to make some bread. It's just a weird thing that's happening.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:48:50 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> My husband eats Grape Nuts, although not for that reason. He finds it
> has more "staying power" than other cereals, which leave him hungry
> soon afterward.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

My mother onetime ate several bowls of Grape-Nuts and we told her she
shouldn't indulge. Our warnings were falling on deaf ears and the next
day she could not stay out of the bathroom.

[Bruce]

But in the ingredient list that Cindy posted, grapes weren't even
mentioned. It only looks like grapes. No?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 6/5/2020 1:56 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Tonight it will be country-style pork ribs baked/roasted in the oven.

>

> What's coming out of your kitchen this Friday evening?
>

Nothing as exciting as yours. I like country ribs and have not made them
in a long time. I'll put them on the to do list.

Lazy kind of meal tonight. Nuking a piece of leftover kielbasa,
toasting a couple of slices of rye bread from the freezer, lettuce and
tomato salad. Oh, and a cold beer.

[Dave Smith]

I had a similar experience with prunes when I worked at a canoe tripping
camp. I was hanging out in the trip room and we were snacking on trip
food. I got into the prunes. The girl who ran the trip room warned me
but I said I had eaten prunes all my life and never had a problem. The
thing was that I had eaten stewed prunes and usually only had 4-5.
There were dried and I had a lot. The outcome would be TMI for the
group. Let's just say that I should have listened to the warning.

[graham]

I have about 1.8kg of sourdough fermenting right now. I'll bake 2 loaves
this evening using the Lahey/NYT system.

[dsi1]

Sourdough bread making sounds like fun but it seems like a lot of work. I can't see feeding the starter every few days. I have a hard time keeping fish. Perhaps I'll try it if the whole world gets infectious and we're forced to forever stay locked up in the house.

[graham]

On 2020-06-05 4:20 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

>>>
>> I have about 1.8kg of sourdough fermenting right now. I'll bake 2 loaves
>> this evening using the Lahey/NYT system.
>
> Sourdough bread making sounds like fun but it seems like a lot of work. I can't see feeding the starter every few days. I have a hard time keeping fish. Perhaps I'll try it if the whole world gets infectious and we're forced to forever stay locked up in the house.
>

When I've used some for bread, I feed it and then store it in the
fridge. I usually go several weeks before feeding it again.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 12:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> Sounds tempting.
>>>
>>> The farmers market is now open on Saturdays, but so far long lines to get in...maybe later on...some vendors now require ordering in advance, then you pick up...
>>>
>> Ugh, our farmers market is the same way. I want to see what I'm buying not
>> someone picking out my fresh vegetables for me.
>>>
>>> Our small college town Target was closed and boarded up for a few daze, but it is now open (there was just one very orderly march, organized by local HS kids, no other drama)...get most of my stuff anyways from Amazon Fresh/Pantry, it is now operating pretty normally. Am using down my pantry/frozen items, as several months ago I really stocked up...stores seem better - stocked from what I know...
>>>
>>From week to week the stores seem to go in waves in what is available. Last
>> week for example there were full shelves of laundry detergent. This week they
>> were pretty bare. This week Kroger had bulging shelves of paper towels but
>> pretty empty last week. Last week the shelves were full of eggs, this week
>> they seemed to be in short supply.
>>
>> It's an adventure to go to the grocery store every week now. Hahahaha
>

> I think a lot is back to normal here. Everything's available, no
> restrictions, pretty busy in town. Australia's been very lucky with
> "only" around a 100 dead. Compare that to 110,000 and counting in the
> US. Countries whose leader took a long time to take corona seriously,
> are really suffering.
>

Yep, australia is all back to normal, but we are having massive
race riots, so will take a while, if we ever get back to good as
australia.

[Hank Rogers]

Lots of chinks get sick trying to eat the grub they ate back in
good old asia.

Almost none ever go back. They do whine a lot though.

[Sheldon Martin]

Sounds like the best dinner of the week, just needs some kraut and
good mustard.

Being so busy with my eye surgery appointments I wasn't able to cook
so tonight's dinner was the second half of a pepperoni pizza that
wasn't very good on the first half. Most pizzarias here are
disgusting. We used to have a great Italian restaurant here, Sophias,
but it closed some five years ago. Sofias did a great business with
the motorcyclelists because there was a great bar in the back part,
but now it's gone.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 19:06:45 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

Great idea: lots of beer and only 2 wheels. I guess the customer base
rapidly died out.

[Hank Rogers]

Are the riots still going on at Charlotte avenue?

[dsi1]

I love those tiny canned oysters. I'll open up a can and pour a mix of shoyu and sugar and eat it straight out of the can. It's quick and awesome.

[dsi1]

I'll have to try it although I tend to kill stuff that requires feeding and watering. It's sort of my specialty.

[dsi1]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-06-05 2:23 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> > On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 1:56:10 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > of something it will be Heinz 57 sauce.
> >>

> >> What's coming out of your kitchen this Friday evening?
> >

> > Looks like it'll be shrimp cocktail, tossed salad, and fresh bread.
> >
>
> Lions Club fish fry. My wife is at the park picking it up now.

Is that a fund raiser? What kind of fish are they frying? What is the price?
People used to sell barbecue chicken to raise funds here but Costco roast chicken pretty much wiped out that idea.

[B. Server]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>
>Tonight it will be country-style pork ribs baked/roasted in the oven.

>I was able to pick up a marked down package at the grocery store and
>there's enough for two meals. The two accompanying side dishes will
>be an envelope of Lipton's cheesy-broccoli rice and a can of green
>beans. Since there will be enough for two meals I'll probably opt to
>go ahead and cook two cans of green beans.
>
>No barbecue sauce will be involved! If I think the ribs need a dribble

>of something it will be Heinz 57 sauce.
>
>What's coming out of your kitchen this Friday evening?

Mapo DoFu and Szechuan chile eggplant.
Un-oaked Chardonnay
Hazelnut icecream with caramel sauce
Sumatran coffee.

[dsi1]

It's an interesting cereal. It's super dense so the box is kind of on the thin side. The width and height is pretty much standard though.

The morning, I had some Calbee Fruit cereal. It's a Japanese cereal that I found in the store. A 500g bag cost over 8 bucks so I must have been rolling in dough at the time. It's pretty good. It's like the opposite of Grape Nuts i.e., it's easy on your choppers. As I recall, Grapes Nuts can do a number on your gums.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71g2r5lP85L._SX679_.jpg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 4:26:33 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> But in the ingredient list that Cindy posted, grapes weren't even
> mentioned. It only looks like grapes. No?
>

I don't know how the cereal got its' name and I've never seen grapes with
nuts.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 4:38:47 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Lazy kind of meal tonight. Nuking a piece of leftover kielbasa,
> toasting a couple of slices of rye bread from the freezer, lettuce and
> tomato salad. Oh, and a cold beer.
>

Kielbasa and rye bread are great together. You can keep the beer, though.

;o)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 7:00:21 PM UTC-5, B. Server wrote:
>
> Hazelnut icecream with caramel sauce
> Sumatran coffee.
>

The hazelnut ice cream sounds rather tempting. I don't do afternoon or
evening coffee; not since I retired and it was at work that I drank coffee
that late in the day and that would be the night shift.

[Boron Elgar]

I consider myself a sourdough breeder....if it is well established,
many starters damn near rise from the dead. In fact, I named one
Lazarus some years back.

Just as I like to try to bring back a plant that seems destined for
the compost, I do love me some sourdough revival!

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 17:33:31 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 7:00:21 PM UTC-5, B. Server wrote:
>>
>> Hazelnut icecream with caramel sauce
>> Sumatran coffee.
>>
>The hazelnut ice cream sounds rather tempting.

Would that be filbert ice cream where you are?

[Boron Elgar]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

The starter creation and maintenance are the easy parts.

Knowing your starter well enough that you understand how it behaves
during the entire bread making process can be the fun part.

My last baking batch included 10 loaves. Well made sourdough freezes
very well and it, too, revives very nicely, as if freshly made. No
joke.

[Boron Elgar]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

Graham knows a LOT about sourdough, as does US Janet. Both are
terrific bakers who love to share hints.

Lordy- Janet & Graham....how the hell long have we been talking about
this stuff? At least 15 years, maybe?

[graham]

This starter that I've had for 30 years or so is pretty strong. After
neglecting, it usually takes 2 feedings to restore its vigour. I've just
put the loaves in the oven - that's 6 hours from mixing, which isn't
that much slower than commercial yeast.

[dsi1]

The riots are going just swell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3ZCzHMMPQ

[dsi1]

Oddly enough, the microorganisms in the air in our apartment are different from the ones in the apartment about 30 feet above us. The organisms over there just loves rice. That's probably a good thing if you want to make sake or miso. In our condo, the critters in the air are kind of lazy and retarded. Anyway, I'll try to set some food out for the little guys and see what I can catch.

[graham]

I dread to think! Probably over 20!

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 18:04:56 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

For sourdough? The micro-organisms are in the flour.

[dsi1]

Well okay, if you say so.

[graham]

On 2020-06-05 6:47 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:

I have Alan Zelt's version of the Poilane bread saved in 2003 and we
started the abr FAQs in 2004. We had been going a few years before those
dates.
Dammit! My grand-daughter was born in 2002 and starts Uni this fall.

[graham]

Just out of the oven:-)
https://postimg.cc/3k2hHhRm

[Bruce]

They look great.

[graham]

Thanks! I'm very pleased with the results. I hadn't tried this recipe
before.

[Ed Pawlowski]

They only sell the female grapes. The males are used to fertilize the
vines.

[Boron Elgar]

Bravo!

[Boron Elgar]

Yikes....

[Boron Elgar]

Time flies when you're having bread.

[Boron Elgar]

Everyone should try a Lahey loaf. Easy peasy.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I and I guess everybody always just calls them hazelnuts. I do remember at
Christmas my dad always bought a huge mesh bag of nuts and in their shells.
Those particular nuts were always labeled filberts and I guess I was almost
grown until I found out they were hazelnuts.

A nut in the bag that I always found interesting was the Brazil nut. Rather
large once out of its' shell but I rarely see them now.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 9:02:52 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
>
> Just out of the oven:-)
> https://postimg.cc/3k2hHhRm
>

Beautiful!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Oooooooh, never too old to learn!

;o)

[Bruce]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 21:16:16 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 17:33:31 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >The hazelnut ice cream sounds rather tempting.
>>
>> Would that be filbert ice cream where you are?
>>
>I and I guess everybody always just calls them hazelnuts. I do remember at
>Christmas my dad always bought a huge mesh bag of nuts and in their shells.
>Those particular nuts were always labeled filberts and I guess I was almost
>grown until I found out they were hazelnuts.
>
>A nut in the bag that I always found interesting was the Brazil nut. Rather
>large once out of its' shell but I rarely see them now.

Brazil nuts are called that here too. They're always part of unshelled
nut mixes.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 11:28:32 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Brazil nuts are called that here too. They're always part of unshelled
> nut mixes.
>

Around the first of December, my Kroger grocery store has a large display of
nuts in separate bins. You can choose which ones you want to buy and crack
at home. This year I'm going to pay particular attention and see if those
Brazil nuts are offered. If I recall correctly, the shell was peculiar
looking at well.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 14:24:01 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 3:48:50 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> My husband eats Grape Nuts, although not for that reason. He finds it
> >> has more "staying power" than other cereals, which leave him hungry
> >> soon afterward.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >My mother onetime ate several bowls of Grape-Nuts and we told her she
> >shouldn't indulge. Our warnings were falling on deaf ears and the next
> >day she could not stay out of the bathroom.

>
> But in the ingredient list that Cindy posted, grapes weren't even
> mentioned. It only looks like grapes. No?

It looks like grape seeds. And is nearly as pleasant to chew on, in
my opinion.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

But why would it be a laxative?

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's high in fiber. The malted barley flour and malt extract may be high
in maltitol, which has a laxative effect.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 04:30:51 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Oh, ok. I thought it was about the grapes.

[Cindy Hamilton]

No grapes are involved in the manufacture of Grape Nuts.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 04:39:15 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Hence my question.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> I think a lot is back to normal here. Everything's available, no
> restrictions, pretty busy in town. Australia's been very lucky with
> "only" around a 100 dead. Compare that to 110,000 and counting in the
> US. Countries whose leader took a long time to take corona seriously,
> are really suffering.

I've always taken annual viruses seriously. I didn't need Trump
or my Governor to tell me what to do. Blaming others for your
own problems seems to be the sad trend these days.

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> I can say one thing that was always in full supply and being stocked constantly
> was beer. Just in passing the shelves of wine weren't lacking

Thank goodness! ;)

> and neither
> were the colas and 'fruit' waters. But I haven't paid any attention to the
> demand of bottled water; I don't even venture down that aisle.

The very first time my store had many missing things, I walked
down each aisle to see what was gone.

The bottled water and soda section was completely cleaned out.
I wasn't surprised at the water but no sodas was interesting.
This is one LONG aisle too.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
> You cook oysters? Deep fry them? You are not worthy of the oyster!

Tune in next episode: Oyster-19 virus. Originated in Australia.

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I'll probably cook more shrimp than we'll eat, and have the leftovers
> on a salad tomorrow.

I always save enough shrimp for a shrimp sandwich the next day.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
> A fresh oyster's like a mouthful of ocean.

Sounds like you swallow them raw without chewing.
Common thing to do at bars and the contests of
"how many can you eat in a certain amount of time."

A good fresh oyster should taste like salty oyster.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >We used to have a great Italian restaurant here, Sophias,
> >but it closed some five years ago. Sofias did a great business with
> >the motorcyclelists because there was a great bar in the back part,
> >but now it's gone.
>
> Great idea: lots of beer and only 2 wheels. I guess the customer base
> rapidly died out.

LOL Good one! ;-D

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
>
> My wife's dinner was steak, with spicy eggplant, and breaded oysters. The oysters came out looking pale because they were cooked in an air fryer - not a good idea. Next time they'll be deep fried.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/dnLPxQMRRkmy70l6tOmJew.pXKQtCiQ_KESqlJh9i8u9C

Yes, best way, imo. Open a fresh oyster, coat it in a medium
tempora batter and deep fry until browned...very little time.
No need for that red sauce on top either.

The meal looked good though.
Q: what was that little orange tidbit inbetween the oysters?

[Cindy Hamilton]

I thought sure I'd posted the ingredients, but apparently the post failed
to make it.

whole grain wheat flour, malted barley flour, isolated soy protein, salt, whole grain barley flour, malt extract and dried yeast.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's a simile. It's _like_ a mouthful of ocean. It isn't
a mouthful of ocean.

Here's one food writer on the flavor of oysters:

Some of the more common flavors you may taste in an oyster are butter/cream, hints of melon or cucumber, sweet, salty or "briny," and a rusty, copper taste.

Here's an unexpectedly long article about the flavor of oysters:

<https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/54106/what-do-oysters-taste-like-oyster-flavor-guide/>

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

I like them. At least I like the old recipe that they still use in the
US. LOL thinking about the old parody commercials on SNL with Euell
Gibbons eating a bowl of pebbles.

[Mike Duffy]

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 05:59:36 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I thought sure I'd posted the ingredients, but apparently the post
> failed to make it.

No, Cindy. You *did* post the ingredients in Message-ID:

<96b334fd-4add-4fc3...@googlegroups.com>


The problem is that some people have a cognitive bias that makes
ingredient lists hard to notice.

Usually, such people will compensate by compulsively posting ingredient
lists, resorting even to posting ingredient lists of something different
than the item under discussion.

[graham]

Thanks! Just had a couple of slices for breakfast:-)

[Sheldon Martin]

There are a lot of bikers around here, all on their expensive Hawgs,
and most are middle aged and elderly who can afford those pricy
machines... many middle aged and elderly married couples who ride
together and typically have a very nice barn built for their pricy
toys. I haven't read about any biker wrecks for a long time. The
most wrecks here are in winter with snowmobilers cutting through
someone's property and running into a fence buried in snow... or
breaking through the ice on a snow covered pond. The snowmobilers are
mostly young teens and very wreckless... no licence or plates required
for a snowmobile.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 21:16:16 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 17:33:31 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >The hazelnut ice cream sounds rather tempting.
>>
>> Would that be filbert ice cream where you are?
>>
>I and I guess everybody always just calls them hazelnuts. I do remember at
>Christmas my dad always bought a huge mesh bag of nuts and in their shells.
>Those particular nuts were always labeled filberts and I guess I was almost
>grown until I found out they were hazelnuts.
>
>A nut in the bag that I always found interesting was the Brazil nut. Rather
>large once out of its' shell but I rarely see them now.

I like Brazil nuts, they're kind of buttery... but don't eat too many
as they can be toxic.
https://www.superfoodly.com/brazil-nuts-selenium-and-radiation-poisoning-dangers/

[Sheldon Martin]

Oyster stew is popular in upstate NY... it's often used in the
stuffing for the Thanksgiving turkey.
http://www.newenglandrecipes.org/html/oyster-stuffing.html

[dsi1]

The orange/red thing is an ume - a Japanese salted pickled plum. It is an intensely salty and sour flavor bomb. It has a taste similar to the Hawaiian li hing mui powder and the Mexican chamoy sauce which are made from Chinese dried salted plum. Finding an ume in the center of a ball of rice would certainly make my day.

Last night my wife had spicy pork and eggplant and cucumber kim chee at work.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/IDnerMwKSB2BbDP9Ud5nGg.YMr3Xriyr0IFO9uqJU5s-N

[cshenk]

Kinda looks like the end of a hotdog but it might be roe instead?
TRaditional there would be a small bit of pickled 'something'.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 05:59:36 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

I asked the question because I read your ingredients. Jesus... I don't
think I can explain this to you.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 14:18:15 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy <bo...@nosuch.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 05:59:36 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> I thought sure I'd posted the ingredients, but apparently the post
>> failed to make it.
>
>No, Cindy. You *did* post the ingredients in Message-ID:
>
><96b334fd-4add-4fc3...@googlegroups.com>

I asked the question BECAUSE I read the ingredient list and wondered
what the laxative element was since there were no grapes in the stuff.
Cindy has answered that question (fiber) after which she continued to
confuse herself.

>Usually, such people will compensate by compulsively posting ingredient
>lists, resorting even to posting ingredient lists of something different
>than the item under discussion.

Lame.