On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 8:09:53 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 10:59 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 7:21:58 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> >> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>> Gary is the same guy who suggested that I be
> >>> less original in my writing.
> >> I did nothing of the sort. I said you should *learn* how to write a good
> >> story.
> >>
> > I also don't believe that you read very much of my book.
> I read as much as I could take.
>
You read enough to decide that you didn't like it,
but not anywhere near enough to claim that,
"There just wasn't any story," and the idea that
all novels "should be constructed with a conflict,
quest and solution," is absurd. That sounds like
instructions for a short story assignment in a
high school English class.
> >>
> >> I suggested you read good (popular) books and learn why they are
> >> popular. Learn good writing skills, not copy others.
>
By "good," you mean standardized. *Miss
Jones, Bryan colored outside the lines again.*
>
> >>
> > So name me some of these good books that you read.
> Good books are reader specific. Read your own choices and decide what
> made them good or not.
>
Still, I'm curious. Mention some books. Here
are two favorites of mine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_the_Wind_Won%27t_Blow_It_All_Away
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little,_Big
>
> Your wife is a career librarian. She could suggest some for you.
>
Her specialty has always been young adult books,
and children's books, and she has introduced me to
a lot of great stuff. I'd never read YA, and other than
high fantasy and SF, and pretty much every one of
the negative utopia novels, I didn't read much fiction
until I was high school age. Because I tested out
my sophomore year, I never took English Lit. and I
didn't discover Shakespeare until my early 30s. I
mean, I'd seen productions, but it never occurred to
me to *read* the plays.
I read a lot of SF in my 20s. I had a SF book club
thing that I got to pick one a month for a cheap
price, and I also read Twain, Dickens, DH
Lawrence, Chaucer--the *other than negative
utopia* stuff that I figured I'd have read in high
school, had I gone to high school--by the time that
I met my wife when I was 25. I never, even for a
moment, mused that I wanted to ever write a
novel.
There was never an inkling of a desire to be as
Paul McCartney described, a *Paperback Writer*.
*Winter's Present* began as a short story. I had
been researching to write my first book, which
was about dietary fatty acids for non-scientists.
My wife and I had a conversation about how in
popular fiction books and movies, that women
who enjoyed sex were always somehow
punished for liking sex, and I came up with the
idea of writing some short stories where that
wasn't the case. At the time, *Fifty Shades of
Grey* was popular, in spite of being poorly
written, and the idea of a diametric opposite,
with the idea of *1001 Nights* as a starting
point seemed amusing.
The last thing I expected was to be gripped,
almost obsessed, with the tale. It took over
my life. I quit a job that I loved, where I had
been for 20 years, and had planned on
working until retirement, to devote myself to
writing it. It wasn't about wanting to become
a professional writer, but about allowing the
tale to be completed.
--Bryan