Free-zer

[Snag]

We dragged this thing home back in March , it's been on the trailer
since then - well covered with a tarp . Our youngest son got an upright
and this small chest has just been taking up space in his kitchen for
quite some time now . I had mentioned possibly getting another small
freezer for bread , fruit , veggies , etc from the garden but hadn't
acted on it because I'm basically a lazy bum and there was a bit of work
involved with getting it down to the cellar . So when he said let's load
this on your trailer and you can have it , I agreed . Well , today I
found one of my roundtuits and got it cleaned up and installed in the
cellar . I discovered I have a shop made basket that is a perfect fit .
Along with the one that came with it I should be able to keep this unit
well organized . That's one major drawback to a chest , getting to the
stuff on the bottom . With 2 baskets suspended I'll have room in the
bottom for one milk crate and another basket which I'll have to
construct to the proper size . Having everything in a container that can
be lifted out will go a long ways toward keeping order down there .
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crotchety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[Gary]

A small chest freezer is a good thing if you can keep it
organized somewhat. I had a small one once and digging
around in the bottom was a pain. At least, when digging
around, all the cold air stayed inside so that was a good
thing about it.

[Ophelia]

"Snag" wrote in message news:rc85jp$mh9$1...@dont-email.me...

===

Well done you! I bet Mrs Snag is well pleased:))

[Snag]

Which is exactly why I want some kind of containers in there to put
everything in . We had a chest unit when I was a kid , stuff sometimes
got so lost in there we never saw it again ...
--

[Snag]

Not yet , but I have plans for this afternoon . <lecherous grin>
--

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 11:02:32 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> A small chest freezer is a good thing if you can keep it
> organized somewhat. I had a small one once and digging
> around in the bottom was a pain. At least, when digging
> around, all the cold air stayed inside so that was a good
> thing about it.
>

Lord yes! We wouldn't want all that cold air just falling out on the floor
and onto your feet. We can't have thawed food and frost-bitten feet!

@ @ (eye roll)

[U.S. Janet B.]

Our 26 cu. ft. chest freezer purchased in the mid-60s at one time had
3 layers. The top 2 layers were sliding baskets that slid on rails
attached to the interior walls. Eventually the clips that held the
rails broke loose from the walls and really no way to re-attach them.
I didn't want to give up my spacious freezer so I tried baskets like
laundry baskets to put things in. Those baskets became to heavy to
move around when they were full. What I am getting at is if you
choose baskets, choose smaller ones that can be lifted when full.
I'm currently using the wire baskets that came with the freezer,
stacked, side-by-side. I keep the 7 baskets sorted so that I really
don't have to rummage around for stuff. Chicken in one, beef, pork,
fish, baked goods. It makes it easier if you know where your stuff
is. HTH
Janet US

[Thomas]

I snagged a free full size upright from a fire department that was upgrading.
It is packed and a ton of frost to thaw this summer. I bought a new dryer coming from hd in a week or so. I cannot budge the freezer at all. It touches the dryer. Hopefully the delivery dude is much stronger than I.

Im armed, get off my porch, lol.

[Snag]

This is a small unit , inside is only about 15x27x31 inches with a
chunk taken out for the condenser/compressor unit . I figure it's around
6 cf or a bit less . The baskets are not going to be all that big ...
--

[Bruce]

We don't want to know <spit>

[Ed Pawlowski]

Had a chest freezer years ago and replaced it with the more sensible
upright.

We put a tray in front of it though so the cold air spilling out would
be caught in it and the we would donate the cold air so the cub scouts
could make ice cream with it. Tax deductible too.

[Dave Smith]

LOL

If everything is frozen solid in the freezer it is not like you lose a
lot of cold air when you open and close it. Just do like you should with
the fridge and a chest freezer.. figure out what you want, look for it
and close the door ASAP.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 3:35:05 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Had a chest freezer years ago and replaced it with the more sensible
> upright.
>
> We put a tray in front of it though so the cold air spilling out would
> be caught in it and the we would donate the cold air so the cub scouts
> could make ice cream with it. Tax deductible too.
>

I am soooooo proud of you. I hope Gary reads this and knows all that cold
air 'falling out of the freezer onto the floor' is not actually wasted.
Good thing it's tax-deductible, too, that should pique his interest!!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

That's not what Gary says.........

[jmcquown]

LOL Ed! I rarely have the upright freezer open long enough to worry
about losing cold air.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Oh, I think changes to the tax code eliminated that deduction. ;)

Jill

[cshenk]

Good size for a 2 person family with occasional guests.

[Snag]

We also have a larger freezer out in my shop . Probably somewhere
around 15 or 0 cf , it's where all the meat is stored . This one is
intended to take some of the load off the side by side freezer unit in
the kitchen and give me someplace for frozen tomatoes and other produce
. Until we have other stuff to put in it I'll be loading it up with jugs
of water . It's an established fact that a full freezer runs more
efficiently that one full of just air .
--

[Ophelia]

"Snag" wrote in message news:rc88hg$q3k$2...@dont-email.me...

Snag

==

LOL

[Gary]

3 freezers - you're all set for plenty!
I think my old chest freezer was a 10 cubic foot one. We had
visions of filling it with bulk sale meat but never did so we
sold it a few years later. We just didn't need that extra
space.

> . Until we have other stuff to put in it I'll be loading it up with jugs
> of water . It's an established fact that a full freezer runs more
> efficiently that one full of just air .

Very true. I keep frozen jugs of water in my freezer and even
cold water in my fridge. A full unit is more efficient and things
will stay cold longer during a brief power outage.

[Snag]

BTW , that side by side is the refrigerator too ... and it's not so
much that it's stuffed (it is) but that it's a pain in the ass to dig
around to find what you want . This will give me an opportunity to
reorganize it by getting some stuff out that would be better off in
another place - like the baggies of frozen spaghetti sauce and stock
from leftovers .

[Sheldon Martin]

We found a chest freezer is like dumpster diving. We discovered that
two fridge freezers with top freezers most convenient. For us the
extra fridge space comes in handy for storing our crops... and the
second top freezer is just the right size for us. We don't need huge
freezer space, we'd much prefer taking advantage of the supermarket
freezers, meats are on sale all the time, and we don't buy expensive
tender cuts to freeze, freezing lowers its USDA rating 1-2 grades. In
the US frozen meat is illegal to sell as "Fresh". Only pinheads stock
up a freezer with tender steaks/roasts... markets always have a
selection on sale. The only meats I freeze are those for
stew/potroast. When I want a good steak I'll go into town and tell
the butcher what I want and cook it that day. Filling a freezer with
porterhouse and the like is the same as putting your money into a
non-interest bearing account.

[Snag]

Fuck you Sheldon . We live in a remote area and great meat sales just
don't happen all that often - there's basically no competition here . So
if we want steaks for less than 7 or 8 bucks a pound , we buy during the
sale and freeze them . Beats the hell out of not having any at all .
--

[Bruce]

Ah, a conversation between two American gentlemen.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Goodness. That _is_ the sale price here.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

You must live in a very remote university city. <spit>

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:23:12 -0500, Snag <snag...@msn.com> wrote:

You either eat steaks every day or are full of shit. We shop once a
week and if steak is on sale that day that's when we buy a couple to
cook that night, we never stock up on good steaks to freeze, that
would be dumb ass stupid.

[Snag]

I usually get ribeyes and KC strips at around 4 bucks/pound at the
March Madness meat sale here . Pork loin strips usually run around 2
buck on sale - they're on sale more often than beef usually .
--

[Snag]

You refuse to understand . That great price on steaks comes around
about once - sometimes twice - a year . A ribeye strip and a KC strip
cut to 1" steaks yields us enough steaks to have them about once every 3
weeks for a year . Large cuts of beef for roasts are the same deal , on
good sales once or twice a year . So when on sale , we stock up . I
suppose buying canned goods by the case offends you too ...
--

[Sheldon Martin]

Where the fuck do you live, in northern Russia? There is nowhere in
the US where one can't find great beef on sale at great prices...
every week a couple different cuts are on sale, and I live in the real
backwoods boonies. And we buy canned goods by the case all the time
but thats not perishables like fresh meat.... you just blew your own
argument... you probably live on cheap bologna sandwiches.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, did yoose get yoose eyeball cleaned out yet?

[Snag]

I live in a clearing out in the woods of north central Arkansas 11
miles from the nearest town , which has a Walmart and one other grocery
store . The nearest freeway is almost a hundred miles away ... and I
haven't touched a bologna sandwich in over 25 years .
--

[Bruce]

I guess you can freely spit without giving a passer-by corona.

[Hank Rogers]

Take a deep whiff Druce.

[Snag]

Not only that , I can target practice out in my front yard without
some Karen making a big scene .

>
> Take a deep whiff Druce.
>
>

Don't distract him , he's sucking up the last vestiges of that big
fart Sheldon let a little while ago .

[Bruce]

Children, you're way too old for the poop and piss phase.

[Sheldon Martin]

11 miles to Walmart is not far from anywhere, and has to have a large
population to rate a Walmart.

[cshenk]

THats because you are an idiot Sheldon. You have no freaking clue how
to properly store meat for freezing. Ypu probably toss it in with
nothing else but the temporary store plastic and tray meant for a week
at best and expext it to last 6months to a year that way. How
clueless.....

You do know regular folks figured this one out 100 years ago and more
right? I hope you also realize some live in fairly remote areas and
dont HAVE a quickie-mart with a fresh meat butcher nearby right?

[cshenk]

He will not understand. He refuses to do so. It's a loss-leader
battle to try to get the concept in his head but i bet you everyone
else gets it just fine.

[Cindy Hamilton]

He's at least partially right. Freezing, especially at domestic-freezer
temperatures, creates ice crystals that break cell walls. A steak
frozen at home will not be as good as a fresh steak.

Still, it's better than no steak at all.

The loss of quality is far outweighed by the convenience of opening
the freezer, pulling out a steak, and having a quick and tasty
dinner with relatively little effort. Especially for those of us
who have a job.

Cindy Hamilton

[Lucretia Borgia]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 02:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:



>
>Still, it's better than no steak at all.
>
>The loss of quality is far outweighed by the convenience of opening
>the freezer, pulling out a steak, and having a quick and tasty
>dinner with relatively little effort. Especially for those of us
>who have a job.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Is retirement in sight?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Four and a half years, when my husband is eligible for Medicare (public
health insurance for the elderly).

I'm only 63. Still a spring chicken.

Cindy Hamilton

[GM]

Remember, "60 is the new 40"...

;-)

--
Best
Greg

[Lucretia Borgia]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 7:09:04 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 02:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Still, it's better than no steak at all.
>> >
>> >The loss of quality is far outweighed by the convenience of opening
>> >the freezer, pulling out a steak, and having a quick and tasty
>> >dinner with relatively little effort. Especially for those of us
>> >who have a job.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Is retirement in sight?
>
>Four and a half years, when my husband is eligible for Medicare (public
>health insurance for the elderly).
>
>I'm only 63. Still a spring chicken.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

True enough :) Have a lot of fun when the time comes.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Thanks. I'll be sure to pass that little tidbit along to my knees. I'm
sure they'll be receptive.

Cindy

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 02:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

There's no effort to me involved in going five miles to buy fresh meat
at a local butcher... and on the same trip buy other items, check our
PO Box, pick up a Rx and other items at Walgreens. I don't make a
special trip just for a steak, usually buy some other items, and the
fixings for a salad. Even flash frozen meat is not nearly as good as
never frozen/fresh. I see no convenience in having to defrost a
steak... and watching its juices run out I lose my appetite. We don't
drive into town just for one food item, we'll decide to have steak if
we happen to be driving into town on the way home from some other trip
like going to a doctor, my wife stops to shop on her way home from the
hair dresser or the golf course. In an hour we'll be going to have
yesterday's cataract surgery checked and on the way home we may decide
to buy something to eat even if only a pizza. There are no beef
steaks in our freezer, rarely are unless top round or chuck for
grinding or for London broil. Well we have a pack of eight frozen
Haddock steaks that she recently picked up from BJs, something
different to try, if not good then never again. I freeze various tube
steaks; hot dogs, saw-seege, and kielbasa, and sometimes pork chops as
they don't suffer from freezing, but usually the shoulder chops I
braise for making pasta sauce.

[Sheldon Martin]

You have no clue how to cook, I've never seen any food you're cooked,
not even toast. I doubt you own a stove or a pot... everything nuked.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Everybody's different. There's an unacceptable level of effort involved
for me to stop on my way home from work to buy fresh meat anywhere.

Actually, the limiting factor is the time. It takes too long to get through
the grocery store--even for one item.

Cindy Hamilton

[Snag]

You're a real piece of work popeye . Can't refute the message so you
attack the messenger .
--

[Hank Rogers]

I agree Popeye. Yoose the only one that owns a pot AND a stove ...
and the only one that cooks in this universe!

Yoose don't need pics of what others cook, just look in yoose terlit.

[Lucretia Borgia]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:36:03 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>

It's ironic he's calling Shenk out, she once gave me hell for being
nasty to him lolol They were ship mates or something so she
understood him.

[Snag]

Understanding he's an arrogant prick isn't all that difficult .
--

[Bruce]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:10:20 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
<lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:

>It's ironic he's calling Shenk out, she once gave me hell for being
>nasty to him lolol They were ship mates or something so she
>understood him.

People here are very forgiving of Popeye's racist rants, temper
tantrums, idiotic criticisms and general retardation. I guess he
reminds them of their father or uncle.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm not forgiving. There's just no point in getting upset about it.
He'll never learn or change.

Not, of course, that I can always refrain from mentioning it to him
when he tries my patience.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Not you, but quite a few people who killfiled me after my second
ingredient list, seem to tolerate Popeye's racism and crassness
without a problem. That amazes me.

[Bruce]

I wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:23:13 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:11:23 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:10:20 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> >> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's ironic he's calling Shenk out, she once gave me hell for being
> >> >nasty to him lolol They were ship mates or something so she
> >> >understood him.
> >>
> >> People here are very forgiving of Popeye's racist rants, temper
> >> tantrums, idiotic criticisms and general retardation. I guess he
> >> reminds them of their father or uncle.
> >
> >I'm not forgiving. There's just no point in getting upset about it.
> >He'll never learn or change.
> >
> >Not, of course, that I can always refrain from mentioning it to him
> >when he tries my patience.
>
> Not you, but quite a few people who killfiled me after my second
> ingredient list, seem to tolerate Popeye's racism and crassness
> without a problem. That amazes me.

Upon second thought, my posts are the least informative and entertaining here, so no wonder many have me blocked.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Obviously you readily admit that you're a lazy twat... for dinner you
feed your hubby flaky wakies.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:02:54 -0500, Snag <snag...@msn.com> wrote:

>On 6/18/2020 11:57 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:23:47 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> THats because you are an idiot Sheldon. You have no freaking clue how
>>> to properly store meat for freezing.
>>
>> You have no clue how to cook, I've never seen any food you're cooked,
>> not even toast. I doubt you own a stove or a pot... everything nuked.
>>
>
> You're a real piece of work popeye . Can't refute the message so you
>attack the messenger .

I've never seen anything you've cooked either, you likely live on
boiled shit.

[Bruce]

Sheldon Martin wrote :

> I've never seen anything you've cooked either, you likely live on
> boiled shit.
>

When you kick the bucket will you be
buried in a grave? If so, where will
it be? I'd like to take a piss and
a shit on it.

TIA.

[Snag]

I have nothing to prove to you . From the pics you've posted , you
spend a lot of time in the all-you-can-eat buffets .

[Hank Rogers]

Who Knows, maybe Popeye cornered her in the chain locker, and raped
her. Hell, he humped his own goddamned aunt.

He says all wimmens can't resist him.

[Hank Rogers]

I can't imagine anyone being nastier than Popeye.

I'm sorry your dad or uncle was like Popeye. Did he come in your
room every night and have sex with you?

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:23:13 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:11:23 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:10:20 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>>> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's ironic he's calling Shenk out, she once gave me hell for being
>>>> nasty to him lolol They were ship mates or something so she
>>>> understood him.
>>>
>>> People here are very forgiving of Popeye's racist rants, temper
>>> tantrums, idiotic criticisms and general retardation. I guess he
>>> reminds them of their father or uncle.
>>
>> I'm not forgiving. There's just no point in getting upset about it.
>> He'll never learn or change.
>>
>> Not, of course, that I can always refrain from mentioning it to him
>> when he tries my patience.
>
> Not you, but quite a few people who killfiled me after my second
> ingredient list, seem to tolerate Popeye's racism and crassness
> without a problem. That amazes me.
>

They did that for other reasons druce.

You are whining again.

[Hank Rogers]

He will be buried in the jewish section of brooklyn, NYC. Tickets
will be sold for 3 weeks before the funeral. It will be a long wait
to piss on his grave. You'll have to pay extra to shit on it.

[Hank Rogers]

Well, I don't know about you, Snag, but Popeye's got me beat on
several things ...

He's got an old mexican whore from the donkey shows.
He's got a fancy painted diesel tank.

Uhh, I guess that's all I can think off.

[cshenk]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:23:55 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> > Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:20:19 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Snag wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 6/15/2020 1:25 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> > THats because you are an idiot Sheldon. You have no freaking clue

> > how to properly store meat for freezing. Ypu probably toss it in
> > with nothing else but the temporary store plastic and tray meant
> > for a week at best and expext it to last 6months to a year that
> > way. How clueless.....
> >
> > You do know regular folks figured this one out 100 years ago and
> > more right? I hope you also realize some live in fairly remote
> > areas and dont HAVE a quickie-mart with a fresh meat butcher nearby
> > right?
>
> He's at least partially right. Freezing, especially at
> domestic-freezer temperatures, creates ice crystals that break cell
> walls. A steak frozen at home will not be as good as a fresh steak.
>
> Still, it's better than no steak at all.
>
> The loss of quality is far outweighed by the convenience of opening
> the freezer, pulling out a steak, and having a quick and tasty
> dinner with relatively little effort. Especially for those of us
> who have a job.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

And for people who live remotely, they do not have the option of 'fresh
never frozen steak'. Even the 'steaks' are apt to be previously frozen.

There is virtually no loss in quality at all (and none in some
types/cuts) if *properly done*.

Now there is one way to make a big difference. Defrost it with the
microwave defrost feature. *UGG*. Huge difference from just letting it
naturally defrost in the fridge.

[cshenk]

So, you have a shorter trip, and other things you had to do anyways.
Do you get it that others in remote areas aren't in the same boat?

[cshenk]

That the best you can do when you constantly deride my few posted
pictures of the cooking?

LOL!

[sqwertz]

How you do carry on like some angry old white woman

<yawn>

-sw

[cshenk]

Grin, that would have been a specific post about the Navy that didn't
match something you said (but I do not recall the specifics). He's
also said much that would get him booted out on his ass from the Navy
by 1980 much less now.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 6/18/2020 8:57 PM, cshenk wrote:


>
> And for people who live remotely, they do not have the option of 'fresh
> never frozen steak'. Even the 'steaks' are apt to be previously frozen.
>
> There is virtually no loss in quality at all (and none in some
> types/cuts) if *properly done*.
>
> Now there is one way to make a big difference. Defrost it with the
> microwave defrost feature. *UGG*. Huge difference from just letting it
> naturally defrost in the fridge.
>

Some years ago I defrosted a couple of steaks in the microwave using the
defrost setting. I pushed the wrong buttons and walked away. We
ordered pizza for dinner.

Now I take them from freezer to fridge the night before. Also, season
and take them out of the fridge an hour before grilling.

[Bruce]

Racist stereotyping!

[Hank Rogers]

cshenk wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:23:47 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:20:19 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
>> wrote: >>
>>>
>>> THats because you are an idiot Sheldon. You have no freaking clue
>>> how to properly store meat for freezing.
>>
>> You have no clue how to cook, I've never seen any food you're cooked,
>> not even toast. I doubt you own a stove or a pot... everything nuked.
>
> That the best you can do when you constantly deride my few posted
> pictures of the cooking?
>
> LOL!
>

It *was* pretty weak. Perhaps Popeye was just too tired to mount a
better attack. Maybe he just got through humping a dozen wimmens :(

[Hank Rogers]

Maybe it was when Popeye said US marines don't serve on navy ships?
Or when he said all navy officers are faggots?
Or when he said the Filipinos were there only to sexually serve the
officers?

Makes a person glad they weren't in Popeye's navy.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Shrug. He likes flaky wakies.

If he doesn't like what I cook, he's perfectly capable of cooking
for himself. It's not my job to cook any more than it's his job
to mow the lawn.

I didn't marry a useless imbecile.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

cshenk wrote:
>
> Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> > It's ironic he's calling Shenk out, she once gave me hell for being
> > nasty to him lolol They were ship mates or something so she
> > understood him.
>
> Grin, that would have been a specific post about the Navy that didn't
> match something you said (but I do not recall the specifics). He's
> also said much that would get him booted out on his ass from the Navy
> by 1980 much less now.

Sheldon got himself "booted out on his ass from the Navy"
in the 1960's. lol

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Some years ago I defrosted a couple of steaks in the microwave using the
> defrost setting. I pushed the wrong buttons and walked away. We
> ordered pizza for dinner.
>
> Now I take them from freezer to fridge the night before. Also, season
> and take them out of the fridge an hour before grilling.

Not grilling lately but for pan frying, I take them out to
thaw in the fridge overnight. Take them out to warm up
an hour before cooking and coated with Woos sauce.

Then I season them right before searing in the pan.
seasoning is - kosher salt, cracked pepper, a little
garlic powder and some basil all pressed in on both
sides.

[Mike Duffy]

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:42:16 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I didn't marry a useless imbecile.

I agree. Both partners should notice things like lawns needing a trim, or
bathrooms needing a dusting.

The only 'chore' I have around the house is the dishes. This was arrived-
at by consensus after the installation of the current dishwasher, which
only lights the 'finished' LED for a few minutes after a cycle. (The
prior dishwasher left it 'on' until the next door open.)


Otherwise, there is a risk of considering unclean dishes as ready to go
in the cupboard, as well as uselessly washing clean dishes. The work-
around is to have one person in charge.

[Cindy Hamilton]

We have division of labor around skill or physical ability. For many
things, though, it doesn't matter.

He's building bookcases and I'll stain and polyurethane them.

I always mow the lawn because the bumpy ride is too hard on his
squashed lumbar disks.

Whoever notices the trash is ready to be taken out usually takes it
out.

It's worked well for us for more than 30 years.

Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

That's what I figured. Anyone that loves the navy so damn much
would never voluntarily leave it. They would stay 30 years or until
retirement forced.

[Bruce]

Or wear glasses.

[Pamela]

On 14:14 19 Jun 2020, Mike Duffy said:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:42:16 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I didn't marry a useless imbecile.
>
> I agree. Both partners should notice things like lawns needing a trim,
> or bathrooms needing a dusting.
>
> The only 'chore' I have around the house is the dishes. This was
> arrived- at by consensus after the installation of the current
> dishwasher, which only lights the 'finished' LED for a few minutes after
> a cycle. (The prior dishwasher left it 'on' until the next door open.)

That's rich from some who's been damaging rechargeable batteries when he
follows the instructions.

[cshenk]

Don and I worked out a sort of pattern before we even married (we lived
together for a year to make sure we matched). It was based on an old
roomate trick.

Make a list on one side of a piece of paper of everything you really
hate to have to do. Now draw a line amd make a list of what you do not
mind so much.

Don truely hates cleaning bathrooms so any major cleaning that is mine.
I really hate laundry so he takes care of that.

He hates grocery shopping so I took care of it for ages but now with
health issues and me needing help, he kinda likes it as he has more say
in what we get.

I don't mind cleaning cat pans or refilling fish tanks (and cleaning
said tanks) so I do most of that. Either one of us will dump the trash
and refill the liners but he cuts the grass.

I do all the finances including taxes. I also arrange all major
perchases (showing him the item such as replacement washing machine
etc.)

It works for us.

[cshenk]

sqwertz wrote:

> From: "sqwertz" <gregorymorr...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Free-zer
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> cshenk wrote:

Greg, get lost.

[cshenk]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 6/18/2020 8:57 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
>
> >
> > And for people who live remotely, they do not have the option of
> > 'fresh never frozen steak'. Even the 'steaks' are apt to be
> > previously frozen.
> >
> > There is virtually no loss in quality at all (and none in some
> > types/cuts) if *properly done*.
> >
> > Now there is one way to make a big difference. Defrost it with the

> > microwave defrost feature. UGG. Huge difference from just letting

> > it naturally defrost in the fridge.
> >
>
> Some years ago I defrosted a couple of steaks in the microwave using
> the defrost setting. I pushed the wrong buttons and walked away. We
> ordered pizza for dinner.
>
> Now I take them from freezer to fridge the night before. Also,
> season and take them out of the fridge an hour before grilling.

THat works. I tried the defrost setting and it's lame in the extreme
for meats and flavor as opposed to just doing it right in the fridge.

[Hank Rogers]

I wonder how Popeye served up fresh (never frozen) steaks when he
was a navy cook? No way he would serve his crew inferior frozen
rubbish.

Did the navy have cattle ships following all the tin cans around to
supply freshly slaughtered beef?

[Mike Duffy]

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 21:23:49 +0100, Pamela wrote:

> That's rich from some who's been damaging rechargeable batteries when he
> follows the instructions.

Oh, Hi Pamela. I prefer to always err on the side of of caution.

Thus, any instructions for any type of battery that start with:

"Put on charge for 15 hours" should be amended to:

"Put on charge for 15 minutes. Check cells for leakage or if they appear
warm to the touch before leaving them unattended for any greater length
of time."


BTW, do you have any idea how much time has elapsed since the last time I
gave you advice on this subject? You shouldn't let things like that burn
in your craw for so long.

[Bruce]

Pamela's hard to talk to because he takes 4 weeks breaks between
appearances.

[Hank Rogers]

So you only get to sniff once a month? That's terrible Druce.

[Pamela]

On 03:59 20 Jun 2020, Mike Duffy said:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 21:23:49 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>
>> That's rich from some who's been damaging rechargeable batteries when
>> he follows the instructions.
>
> Oh, Hi Pamela. I prefer to always err on the side of of caution.
>
> Thus, any instructions for any type of battery that start with:
>
> "Put on charge for 15 hours" should be amended to:
>
> "Put on charge for 15 minutes. Check cells for leakage or if they appear
> warm to the touch before leaving them unattended for any greater length
> of time."

I was specifically wondering why you feel the following advice is
"destructive and dangerous". You didn't answer the first time I asked.

Your sugegstion fails to equalise new cells in a battery nor does it
charge them fully as the article I quote advises.

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159276379900

================== START ================= Only the initial charge needs
be very long. After that just charge and discharge normally. This site
is authoritative:

"Battery manufacturers recommend that new batteries be slow-charged for
16?24 hours before use. A slow charge brings all cells in a battery
pack to an equal charge level. This is important because each cell
within the nickel-cadmium battery may have self-discharged at its own
rate. Furthermore, during long storage the electrolyte tends to
gravitate to the bottom of the cell and the initial slow charge helps
in the redistribution to eliminate dry spots on the separator.

Battery manufacturers do not fully format nickel- and lead-based
batteries before shipment. The cells reach optimal performance after
priming that involves several charge/discharge cycles. This is part of
normal use; it can also be done with a battery analyzer. Quality cells
are known to perform to full specifications after only 5?7 cycles;
others may take 50?100 cycles.

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_nickel_based_
batteries ================== END =================

[Pamela]

On 04:03 20 Jun 2020, Bruce said:

Bruce it may surprise you but not everyone spends anything like as much
time here as you do.

Sometimes I wonder why your life appears so empty that it's a highlight
for you to spot new messages here and reply within a matter of minutes.

Take a break. Go and do something else. Don't post for a few days. Break
your addiction. Try it.

[jmcquown]

On 6/18/2020 8:57 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Now there is one way to make a big difference. Defrost it with the

> microwave defrost feature.*UGG*. Huge difference from just letting it

> naturally defrost in the fridge.

OMG, no. I'm not sure what you're saying UGG to but never use the
microwave defrost setting to thaw a steak or any sort of frozen meat
unless you want it to be partially cooked before it's thawed through in
the middle.

Thaw well wrapped meat in a bowl of cold water if you're in a hurry.

Jill

[jmcquown]

He did once declare to me there were no Marines on Navy ships during
WWII. He doesn't realize the Marine Corps and Navy have always been
joined at the hip.

Jill

[dsi1]

If you have a sous vide cooker, you can immerse the frozen steak into the water bath and set it at 125 to 130 degrees and let it go for 3 hours or more. Then you take it out and sear it because it's already cooked.

I cooked this steak in the sous vide and then blasted the shit out of it in a carbon steel pan. Of course, it came out perfectly medium rare. It wasn't frozen though. One day, I'll have to try it. My guess is that I could pre-season steaks, bag them, and freeze them. You could then have steaks from the freezer to perfectly done in 3 three hours. That would be awesome.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/22CtZqyuRkeuZuokGxEQyw.5qy-aBey2yJuHDmuuek3Zt

[Hank Rogers]

Unless it's changed, I think the marine corps actually falls under
the department of the navy. They are actually a part of the navy.

Popeye also says all navy officers are homosexual, but unclear if
that extends to marines too. I guess the enlisted men are not
(unless they are Filipinos, who are only recruited for officers to
have sex with).

Heh, yoose can learn a hell of a lot from Popeye.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 19:32:18 +0100, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 04:03 20 Jun 2020, Bruce said:
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 02:59:49 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 21:23:49 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's rich from some who's been damaging rechargeable batteries when
>>>> he follows the instructions.
>>>
>>> Oh, Hi Pamela. I prefer to always err on the side of of caution.
>>>
>>> Thus, any instructions for any type of battery that start with:
>>>
>>> "Put on charge for 15 hours" should be amended to:
>>>
>>> "Put on charge for 15 minutes. Check cells for leakage or if they
>>> appear warm to the touch before leaving them unattended for any greater
>>> length of time."
>>>
>>>
>>>BTW, do you have any idea how much time has elapsed since the last time
>>>I gave you advice on this subject? You shouldn't let things like that
>>>burn in your craw for so long.
>>
>> Pamela's hard to talk to because he takes 4 weeks breaks between
>> appearances.
>
>Bruce it may surprise you but not everyone spends anything like as much
>time here as you do.

That doesn't surprise me, since I just said that you take 4 weeks
breaks between appearances.

>Sometimes I wonder why your life appears so empty that it's a highlight
>for you to spot new messages here and reply within a matter of minutes.
>
>Take a break. Go and do something else. Don't post for a few days. Break
>your addiction. Try it.

Calm down. I'm not saying you have to post or read more. Just that I
often don't get a reply when talking to you because you've again
disappeared for weeks. There's nothing wrong with that, but it makes
you a bit irrelevant to talk to.

[Pamela]

On 21:19 21 Jun 2020, Bruce said:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 19:32:18 +0100, Pamela <pamela...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>On 04:03 20 Jun 2020, Bruce said:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 02:59:49 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 21:23:49 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's rich from some who's been damaging rechargeable batteries
>>>>> when he follows the instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, Hi Pamela. I prefer to always err on the side of of caution.
>>>>
>>>> Thus, any instructions for any type of battery that start with:
>>>>
>>>> "Put on charge for 15 hours" should be amended to:
>>>>
>>>> "Put on charge for 15 minutes. Check cells for leakage or if they
>>>> appear warm to the touch before leaving them unattended for any
>>>> greater length of time."
>>>>
>>>>BTW, do you have any idea how much time has elapsed since the last
>>>>time I gave you advice on this subject? You shouldn't let things like
>>>>that burn in your craw for so long.
>>>
>>> Pamela's hard to talk to because he takes 4 weeks breaks between
>>> appearances.
>>
>>Bruce it may surprise you but not everyone spends anything like as much
>>time here as you do.
>
> That doesn't surprise me, since I just said that you take 4 weeks breaks
> between appearances.

I'm so sorry to keep my audience waiting. :)

>>Sometimes I wonder why your life appears so empty that it's a highlight
>>for you to spot new messages here and reply within a matter of minutes.
>>
>>Take a break. Go and do something else. Don't post for a few days. Break
>>your addiction. Try it.
>
> Calm down. I'm not saying you have to post or read more. Just that I
> often don't get a reply when talking to you because you've again
> disappeared for weeks. There's nothing wrong with that, but it makes you
> a bit irrelevant to talk to.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder.