Anything Cooking Tonight?

[jmcquown]

I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli. I
could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
bit of grated Parmesan cheese.

Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
"Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
noodles.

Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?

Jill

[Bruce]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:22:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli. I
>could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
>bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>
>Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
>"Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
>noodles.

Maybe try Norwegian or Danish meatballs for a change. Or go wild and
make Icelandic meatballs.

[Bryan Simmons]

Late lunch.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/36178182@N08/53013988413/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[dsi1]

I'm making carnitas. I was going to make kalua pork but I've pretty much had it with kalua pork. I'll never make it again - except if I'm on the mainland.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tYY84yjRm6eFS3zp9

[S Viemeister]

Potato, leek, and flounder chowder, topped with shredded carrots and
parsley, served with home-baked brown bread.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:22:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I thought you regularly dined at the Dataw Private Club?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 4:22:31 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>

> Anything on your menu tonight?
>
> Jill
>

Just leftovers here and once they're gone it will free up some much
needed refrigerator space.

[Ed P]

Grilled rib eye steak, air fryer baked potato, mushrooms and onions.
Red wine, of course.

[jmcquown]

You haven't been paying attention.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-06-30 5:45 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:22:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>

>> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
>> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
>> noodles.
>>
>> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>>
>> Jill
>
> I thought you regularly dined at the Dataw Private Club?

I thought that she had made it pretty clear that she resents having to
deal with the minimum annual she has to spend at the club because she
doesn't like the food and rarely eats there.

[Dave Smith]

Grilled salmon, air fries, salad and something else. I am not cooking.
I cooked the last two nights. I made a chicken stir fry on Wednesday and
spaghetti and meatballs last night. It would have been hamburgers but
we are staying in to avoid the bad air. It turned out to be appropriate
to have spaghetti because we ended up watching The Godfather.

[jmcquown]

lucretia hasn't been paying attention. I regularly post about the food
I've cooked.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:14:40 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

lol

[jmcquown]

Is there any end in sight to the smoke from the wildfires?

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

I think she was able to get out of paying the mandatory high
fees, so no longer darkens their doorway.

I guess the club re-thought forcing her ladyship to be a
client. Or maybe the other patrons complained too much. Who knows?

[Hank Rogers]

Indeed, it's old news, your majesty.

[Hank Rogers]

Too hot for a big feed anyway. I'm just making leftover
meatloaf sandwiches and cold leftover pie for desert. Some cold
potato salad would be a great side dish, but I ate it all up
last week.

[GM]

Ah, Sire Hank, does this mean another rfc "death watch", this time for poor innocent Lucretia...!!!???

Does this mean I'll have to dust off my trusty mourning veil once AGAIN...???

<SOB>

:-(((

--
GM

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:19:45 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I do know that, it was why I wondered what happened to all the club
menus.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:22:01 -0500, Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Clearly not you and I lol

[lucr...@florence.it]

Nah, I don't get killed that easily. I had a very nice lobster
tonight, nothing else, just the lobster, plenty for me.

[GM]

Lucretia, the Dataw Private Club is a wee bit too "plebian" for the likes of Jill these days...

They have admitted wealthy "vulgarian" types, such as Donald Trump supporters, into The Club...

The "last straw" was when they hired Melania Trump's interior decorator to "do up" the place in the manner of
that ghastly Mar - a - Lago... disco balls replaced the lovely old 19th century Tiffany chandeliers... cheap scratchy
K - Mart polyester replaced the fine old linen napkins and table coverings (that had been woven by Belgian
nuns, who had taken vows of total silence)... precious old burnished hardwood antique furniture items were spray - painted
in garish gold gilt...

"Rumour has it" that a priceless 15th century Ming Dynasty "Goldfish" vase - a "legacy" gift to the Dataw Club from Ulysses S. Grant! -
was fashioned into a bidet, espressly for the use of "The Donald"...

Now, Jill at home has her own private French Chef on staff, and an "Irish girl" for scullery duties...

At recent auction, she even bought the remaining 18th century Meissen china place settings from Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's
stately old Virginia home... Jill dines from the same pieces that President Jefferson used...!!!

--
GM

[GM]

Good show, m'dear...!!!

:-)

--
GM

[jmcquown]

You wondered? You made it sound like I still regularly dine there. I
don't give a rip about their menus. I post frequently about the food I
cook. So, which would you prefer, the ravioli with sage butter sauce or
the Swedish meatballs with egg noodles? Maybe I'll just pan sear some
sea scallops instead. There are infinite possibilities at hand.

Jill

[jmcquown]

You do love feeding the trolls.

Jill

[bruce bowser]

Dataw seems like it's in the middle of no where. I can't believe they have a club, there. I've been through Savannah. I always thought the grass smelled funny from the highway.

[GM]

Lol, bb...

That whole AREA "smells funny" - it's got that "Southern swamp" thang going...

All those eons of decaying flora and fauna give off an odiferous "miasma":

"Miasma: noxious exhalations from putrescent organic matter; poisonous effluvia or germs polluting the atmosphere..."

A billion years from now there will be rich coal and petroleum deposits exactly where Jill's house once stood...

--
GM

[songbird]

jmcquown wrote:

> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli. I
> could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
> bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>

> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
> noodles.
>
> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?

today we had salmon patties, a simple recipe
using primarily the canned red salmon, some juice from
the cans, onions (large dice), some rice chex crushed,
an egg + one more egg white. we also had some veggies
along with that which were cooked from the frozen bag
and then Mom wanted to use up some swiss cheese so she
put that on top after and melted it a bit. dessert
later on, a bit of Rocky Road ice-cream with some
cashews on top.

later on i'll be cutting up some apples.

the menu this weekend is going to be tomorrow using
the leftovers from today and then we'll be cooking up
some veggie pizza for the tribe coming over on Sunday.


songbird

[Bruce]

If you keep being so friendly with the trolls, you'll never be allowed
to join the Sisterhood. The only trolls you're allowed to be friendly
with, are the Sisterhood trolls.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 20:04:05 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Yup. Maybe she pays so little attention that she doesn't even know
that Greg and Hank are the nastiest RFC trolls.

[Ed P]

With a population of about 12,000 they can support one. Plenty of
amenities there too.

[Bruce]

11,999. Jill doesn't go there anymore. Not enough steamed, lightly
seasoned vegetables.

[Cindy Hamilton]

What she made pretty clear is that the fee is no longer imposed and she
doesn't have to dine at the club at all.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

No. They're expecting it to go all summer. About 20 million acres
have burned so far, or about the same area as the state of South
Carolina. It's still fairly early in the wildfire season.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Bowser, you were probably smelling the sea grass or marshes. Savannah
is a coastal town.

> With a population of about 12,000 they can support one.  Plenty of
> amenities there too.

Yep. The club, two golf courses, tennis courts, an indoor and an
outdoor swimming pool. Oh, and a little private library, all books
donated by residents - that's my go-to "amenity". :)

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 6/30/2023 8:41 PM, songbird wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli. I
>> could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
>> bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>>
>> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
>> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
>> noodles.
>>
>> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>
> today we had salmon patties, a simple recipe
> using primarily the canned red salmon, some juice from
> the cans, onions (large dice), some rice chex crushed,
> an egg + one more egg white. we also had some veggies
> along with that which were cooked from the frozen bag
> and then Mom wanted to use up some swiss cheese so she
> put that on top after and melted it a bit. dessert
> later on, a bit of Rocky Road ice-cream with some
> cashews on top.
>

I haven't made salmon patties this year. I have some canned salmon, I
should do that. I always have frozen veggies on hand although right now
I also have fresh yellow squash and a cabbage. I was tempted to buy
some espresso-chip frozen yogurt but restrained myself.

> later on i'll be cutting up some apples.
>
> the menu this weekend is going to be tomorrow using
> the leftovers from today and then we'll be cooking up
> some veggie pizza for the tribe coming over on Sunday.
>
>
> songbird

Sounds like you've got the weekend planned! :)

Jill

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 20:04:05 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I will do what I wish to do, not what you tell me Jill!!

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 11:45:52 +1000, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>

Well maybe you spend too much time here? Do you have a
life/friends/family away from rfc??

[lucr...@florence.it]

OK must have missed all that.

[lucr...@florence.it]

Forget when it was, quite some time ago anyway, we had a summer of
smoke when Mt. St. Helens decided to erupt. At the time they said
the volcano expelled the smoke into the air, it traveled on the air
stream and then descended as it passed over us and on to the Atlantic.

[jmcquown]

I didn't tell you to do anything. Merely an observation.

Jill

[GM]

+1000

;-D

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

Wow. That's just like your buddy Ophelia who used to reply to every
offensive post by Peter Lucas. When I told her that if she didn't stop I
was going to filter her, she got all snotty and told me I could not tell
her what to do. Now you are telling Jill the same thing.

[GM]

Slave days are over, Lucretia is not an indentured servant, and thus has no need to follow the "rules" that
Gossip Shrew JIll or Asshole Officer Dave "direct" her to follow...

"Carry on, Lucretia...!!!" is what I say...!!!

;-D

--
GM

[lucr...@florence.it]

It's okay, never been one to be obedient :) Odd he should mention
Ofeelyah, she was mentioned the other day on another group has having
been there once or twice (UK group) but nobody said anything nice~

[Michael Trew]

On 6/30/2023 5:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli. I
> could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
> bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>
> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
> noodles.
>
> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>
> Jill

The spinach ravioli sounds good. I'd have to break through a mental
barrier to enjoy noodles and "Swedish meatballs". Call it a "childhood
trauma" from Hamburger helper. I get sick to my stomach if I have to
even smell the stuff.

Last night, all I had was a bowl of apple sauce. After a bunch of
greasy french fries at the fair, I couldn't think about other food. I
bought the natural/unsweetened variety from Aldi, with no ingredients
other than "apples". I don't know why they even sweeten other apple
sauce; it's totally unnecessary.

[Michael Trew]

On 6/30/2023 5:37 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

> On 30/06/2023 22:22, jmcquown wrote:
>> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli.
>> I could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with
>> a bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>>
>> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them into
>> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over
>> egg noodles.
>>
>> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>>

> Potato, leek, and flounder chowder, topped with shredded carrots and
> parsley, served with home-baked brown bread.

Oh boy, you win! That sounds really good.

[Michael Trew]

On 6/30/2023 10:05 PM, Ed P wrote:

> On 6/30/2023 8:11 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 8:03:27 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> You wondered? You made it sound like I still regularly dine there. I
>>> don't give a rip about their menus.
>>

>> Dataw seems like it's in the middle of no where. I can't believe they
>> have a club, there. I've been through Savannah. I always thought the
>> grass smelled funny from the highway.
>
> With a population of about 12,000 they can support one. Plenty of
> amenities there too.

Mr. Bowser's posts are usually so far out in left field, that I always
get a good chuckle out of them.

[Michael Trew]

On 6/30/2023 8:41 PM, songbird wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach& ricotta filled ravioli. I

>> could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
>> bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>>

>> Or, I could brown some ground beef& pork meatballs and turn them into

>> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
>> noodles.
>>
>> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>
> today we had salmon patties, a simple recipe
> using primarily the canned red salmon, some juice from
> the cans, onions (large dice), some rice chex crushed,
> an egg + one more egg white.

Red salmon, and not pink? I never quite understood the difference,
other than a large price difference. I have a can of the cheaper pink
salmon in my pantry on hand, for when I don't know what to make.

[Bruce]

Just know that it makes you look very clueless, like you just arrived
here last week.

[Bruce]

So you're saying you didn't know. Ok then.

[Bruce]

Being killfiled by Dave Smith is a compliment.

[Bruce]

Like a dog with a bone. It should be put on your tombstone. "Here lies
Lucretia. She hated Ophelia."

[Bruce]

I'd have thought you prefer posts that are far out in right field.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-01, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 6/30/2023 8:41 PM, songbird wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach& ricotta filled ravioli. I
>>> could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
>>> bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>>>
>>> Or, I could brown some ground beef& pork meatballs and turn them into
>>> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
>>> noodles.
>>>
>>> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>>
>> today we had salmon patties, a simple recipe
>> using primarily the canned red salmon, some juice from
>> the cans, onions (large dice), some rice chex crushed,
>> an egg + one more egg white.
>
> Red salmon, and not pink? I never quite understood the difference,

How can you not know something, and not want to find out? It would
drive me crazy.

> other than a large price difference. I have a can of the cheaper pink
> salmon in my pantry on hand, for when I don't know what to make.

I'm starting to be ready for tuna, fresh lemon zest, a little of the
olive oil from the can, and minced chives, served on a salad of romaine,
celery, cucumbers, and tomato. With lemon vinaigrette (also using the
olive oil from the can).

Tonight, though, I have to grill some chicken for my husband, so I'll
likely have grilled chicken instead of tuna.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 18:45:10 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-07-01, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 6/30/2023 8:41 PM, songbird wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach& ricotta filled ravioli. I
>>>> could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along with a
>>>> bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>>>>
>>>> Or, I could brown some ground beef& pork meatballs and turn them into
>>>> "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it over egg
>>>> noodles.
>>>>
>>>> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>>>
>>> today we had salmon patties, a simple recipe
>>> using primarily the canned red salmon, some juice from
>>> the cans, onions (large dice), some rice chex crushed,
>>> an egg + one more egg white.
>>
>> Red salmon, and not pink? I never quite understood the difference,
>
>How can you not know something, and not want to find out? It would
>drive me crazy.

ChatGPT:
"Red salmon (sockeye salmon) has bright red flesh, larger size, richer
flavor, and is less abundant, while pink salmon (humpback salmon) has
pale pink flesh, smaller size, milder flavor, and is more widely
distributed."

>> other than a large price difference. I have a can of the cheaper pink
>> salmon in my pantry on hand, for when I don't know what to make.
>
>I'm starting to be ready for tuna, fresh lemon zest, a little of the
>olive oil from the can, and minced chives, served on a salad of romaine,
>celery, cucumbers, and tomato. With lemon vinaigrette (also using the
>olive oil from the can).

You always eat such healthy, light food, yet you're morbidly obese.
What are you not telling us?

[S Viemeister]

Thank you - it was!

[songbird]

Michael Trew wrote:
...

> Red salmon, and not pink? I never quite understood the difference,
> other than a large price difference. I have a can of the cheaper pink
> salmon in my pantry on hand, for when I don't know what to make.

there's really nothing wrong with pink salmon
for salmon patties instead.

having eaten a fair amount of canned fish in
my life i've always been pretty happy with the
simple sardines, lightly smoked, packed in oil
or water. i prefer it over tuna almost every
time (only time i don't is when i'm having
sashimi - which is rare).

the price we paid for the red salmon was about
the same price i'd pay for decent sardines. it
used to be that i could get decent sardines for
about $0.25 a tin, but those days have long since
passed - i eat them rarely enough that both
sardines and salmon are treats and not that often
on the menu.


songbird

[songbird]

jmcquown wrote:
...

> I haven't made salmon patties this year. I have some canned salmon, I
> should do that. I always have frozen veggies on hand although right now
> I also have fresh yellow squash and a cabbage. I was tempted to buy
> some espresso-chip frozen yogurt but restrained myself.

it isn't something we have often, maybe four times a
year.


...

> Sounds like you've got the weekend planned! :)

yes, it's turned out ok so far, Mom's making the
veggie pizza this evening so it will be ready for
tomorrow. i got the watermellon cut up and that
is already in the fridge and chilled. nothing too
major cooking wise that we have to do tomorrow so
i'll just clean up a little and we'll be ready.


songbird

[jmcquown]

I did not tell lucretia what to do. I merely commented she feeds the
trolls. Even Bruce agreed with me. Heh.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 17:42:48 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>

wrote:

>On 7/1/2023 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-07-01 8:24 a.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 20:04:05 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2023 7:47 PM, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>
>>>>> Clearly not you and I lol
>>>>
>>>> You do love feeding the trolls.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I will do what I wish to do, not what you tell me Jill!!
>>
>>
>> Wow. That's just like your buddy Ophelia who used to reply to every
>> offensive post by Peter Lucas. When I told her that if she didn't stop I
>> was going to filter her, she got all snotty and told me I could not tell
>> her what to do.  Now you are telling Jill the same thing.
>>
>>
>I did not tell lucretia what to do. I merely commented she feeds the
>trolls. Even Bruce agreed with me. Heh.

Yes.

[Dave Smith]

I did not tell Ophelia that she could not reply to Lucas. I told her
that if she was going to persist in replying to him and including 100
lines or more of his offensive nonsense that I would filter her. Not
that she should care if I read her crap or not. I was just pointing out
that the two of them are a lot alike.

[Hank Rogers]

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/1/2023 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-07-01 8:24 a.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 20:04:05 -0400, jmcquown
>>> <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2023 7:47 PM, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>
>>>>> Clearly not you and I lol
>>>>
>>>> You do love feeding the trolls.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I will do what I wish to do, not what you tell me Jill!!
>>
>>
>> Wow. That's just like your buddy Ophelia who used to reply to
>> every offensive post by Peter Lucas. When I told her that if
>> she didn't stop I was going to filter her, she got all snotty

>> and told me I could not tell her what to do.  Now you are

>> telling Jill the same thing.
>>
>>
> I did not tell lucretia what to do.  I merely commented she
> feeds the trolls.  Even Bruce agreed with me. Heh.
>
> Jill
>
>

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Who can argue with that? I believe anything officer dave and
master bruce says, your majesty.

[Hank Rogers]

So, you made a threat. Why didn't you just killfile both of
them instead of performing a soap opera drama?

For a sworn officer, you sure are a dickhead. Barney Pfife.

[dsi1]

Not to worry, Google now uses AI to generate answers to all your questions.

"Red canned salmon is often called sockeye salmon. It has a deeper hue and is more flavorful than pink salmon. Red salmon also has a richer taste and a firmer texture. Pink salmon is the smallest species and is found in the Arctic and Pacific waters. It has a milder flavor and a softer texture.
Red salmon is slightly higher in calories, has more Omega 3 fatty acids, and a little more protein than pink salmon. However, all types of canned salmon are nutritious choices."

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-07-01, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:

> having eaten a fair amount of canned fish in
> my life i've always been pretty happy with the
> simple sardines, lightly smoked, packed in oil
> or water. i prefer it over tuna almost every
> time (only time i don't is when i'm having
> sashimi - which is rare).

So you DON'T have gout.

leo

[Cindy Hamilton]

Most people don't.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

doesn't seem to be an issue for me, do you?


songbird

[Michael Trew]

You didn't cook the carrots in the chowder, just shredded them raw on
top? I don't think I would have thought of that. Suppose it adds texture.

[Michael Trew]

On 7/1/2023 2:45 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-07-01, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Red salmon, and not pink? I never quite understood the difference,
>
> How can you not know something, and not want to find out? It would
> drive me crazy.

I pick and choose my battles. There are a number of things that I have
an itch to hop to researching, but also a number of things that I'm less
concerned about. I presume the difference in this case would be in the
taste of the salmon. Since you mentioned it, I went on to learn that
red salmon is primarily used in presentation for it's more attractive
color, but it also has a less mild taste and a firmer texture.

There are too many people in my (and my parent's) generation who have
such a solid addiction to their smart phone that they cannot go five
seconds without whipping it out to quickly look something up on the
spot, the moment the need strikes. In my opinion, I feel that this
behavior truly hampers critical thought... I'll go so far as to say
that it's creating a generation of people who need instant
gratification. I'd rather ponder on it, and look it up later when I
feel the need.

> I'm starting to be ready for tuna, fresh lemon zest, a little of the
> olive oil from the can, and minced chives, served on a salad of romaine,
> celery, cucumbers, and tomato. With lemon vinaigrette (also using the
> olive oil from the can).

That sounds good to me, but hold the cucumbers (unless few in quantity
and diced small). Tuna over lettuce with fixings is an old-school
summer salad. I presume that you do not, however, make lettuce topped
with cottage cheese. ;)

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-07-02, Michael Trew wrote:

> hold the cucumbers (unless few
> in quantity and diced small).

I find them much better peeled.

I also peel pickles. Usually I do the whole
jar and slice into 1/4" slabs, filtering out
the dill, garlic & mustard seeds as well.

[S Viemeister]

Yes, finely shredded raw carrots, for both colour and texture. Sometimes
I also sprinkle fresh chives on, too.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Nope. Lots of thin slices of cucumber, so I can enjoy the taste and
texture.

> Tuna over lettuce with fixings is an old-school

Tuna salad with mayonnaise, perhaps. I've had that stuffed into
a tomato at various lunch counters.

> summer salad. I presume that you do not, however, make lettuce topped
> with cottage cheese. ;)

Oh, hell, no. I ate enough cottage cheese in the 1970s. Even though
it's enjoying a "moment", I'll leave it to the Millennials and Gen Zers:
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/30/health-conscious-millennials-gen-zers-make-cottage-cheese-cool-again.html

I'll stick with yogurt.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-02, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> On 7/1/2023 2:45 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-07-01, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Red salmon, and not pink? I never quite understood the difference,
>>
>> How can you not know something, and not want to find out? It would
>> drive me crazy.
>
> I pick and choose my battles. There are a number of things that I have
> an itch to hop to researching, but also a number of things that I'm less
> concerned about.

No, I still don't get it. I want to know everything. I read articles
on child-rearing, and I don't have any children. I've recently googled
for:

turbo roundabout
authentic gyro
Chronicles of St. Mary's reading order
median income Mississippi
How many people have gout
spinach and yogurt soup
television mirror
wind chime chords
pink vs red salmon canned
how many stay at home dads are there
U.S. Constitution articles
South Carolina area in acres
How many acres have burned in Canada

That doesn't include my activity on Wikipedia, which doesn't keep a
history.

When my browser opens, it automatically opens tabs on:
Washington Post
Detroit Free Press
Ann Arbor News
NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day
xkcd.com (just for fun)

When I'm done with the newspapers and Usenet, I turn to
news.google.com.

The Internet is the second-best thing that ever happened to me.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Hubby FTW!

[Michael Trew]

I spy a number of recent RFC topics.

I had to figure out what a "turbo roundabout" is... yikes. I do not
like roundabouts. I will avoid them in my route, if I can help it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

That was culled from my last 40 clicks. About a day's worth.

> I had to figure out what a "turbo roundabout" is... yikes. I do not
> like roundabouts. I will avoid them in my route, if I can help it.

Of course you don't like roundabouts. They're new. They have the
advantage of turning gridlock into manageable traffic flow, and
serious accidents into fender-benders. The only downside is people
who don't know how to navigate them.

I forgot the best thing of all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Special:Random

--
Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

We have a few on this rock. They're a great idea - traffic just flows and there's no need for electronic lights. The savings in energy must be substantial. The trouble is that the state doesn't know how to build them and people don't know how to use them. The state builds them too small and some people stop before entering them when they don't have to. That defeats the idea of a roundabout. That's the brakes.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 04:16:11 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

You need to slow down, at least, to see if there's traffic already on
the roundabout that you have to give right of way to. Don't just keep
driving.

[Dave Smith]

They are becoming increasing common here. They work well when everyone
understands the rules and how to cope with the other traffic. It only
takes a few people to screw things up. People braking when they don't
need to is a major problem. Other people come along take a look, see
there is no one coming and are then surprised when the person ahead
stops for no good reason.

As our town grows I am seeing more and more problems as it adopts
traffic measures that are more common elsewhere. Four way stop signs are
a mystery for a lot of people. The newest obstacle is left turn lanes.In
theory, you move to the left hand turn lane a little ahead of time and
when you get to your destination you can stop there and make your turn
when it is safe. Around there, the more common practice is to stay in
the left lane until you get to your destination and then half turn into
the left turn lane and sit there with your ass in the left lane. They
see is a lane to turn across rather than one to turn from.

[Ed P]

I don't get it. I remember them from over 70 years ago. They worked
well in most places. One was on a road with six lanes each way (two
sets of three) and the center lanes were later tunneled under to make
express lanes. People are now shocked that they are making a comeback.

Try this Diamond Interchange. I go through it once or twice a month but
the first time it look confusing with so many lanes. Read and follow
the signs
https://www.hdrinc.com/portfolio/interstate-75-university-parkway-diverging-diamond-interchange

[Dave Smith]

There was a double diamond interchange installed on the QEW just north
of Niagara Falls. People were freaking out at the idea and dreading its
opening. The old interchange had been notorious for slow, back up
traffic. Exiting vehicles were often stuck out on the highway. There are
a couple hotels, a big truck stop, an outlet mall and a college right by
it. There were four sets of traffic lights within less than 1/4 mile
and it took forever to get through there. When the double diamond
opened up it was a breeze to get through.

[dsi1]

You need to yield to cars in the roundabout. This means that sometimes you have to stop. A lot of people treat a roundabout as a 4 way stop. That defeats the concept of the roundabout. The ones we have here are too small. Roundabouts really need to be able to accommodate several car in them at the same time. As an added bonus, they're fun - whee!

[dsi1]

There were 2 lane roundabouts in the UK. That really freaked out us Americans - we might be too dumb for those. The ones in the UK go clockwise. Ours go counterclockwise. Roundabouts would work great with self-driving cars - maybe not so great with humans.

[Dave Smith]

The roundabouts in our town are single lane. The one in a nearby city
that is the end of a four lane highway intersecting with a four lane
city street is 3 lanes. Last month our driver in Paris took us past the
Arc de Triomphe and the roundabout there is 8 lanes. I have been
there a few times and there is always a fresh fender bender.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

I've had gout for thirty years, but it's dormant because of allopurinol.
Sardines in oil are a purine overload, and purines aggravate the hell
out of gout. Thus, my previous response.

leo

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

Yeah, they're not a compulsory 4-way stop. You could be the only car.
In Australia they're everywhere. Beats traffic lights IMO.

[Michael Trew]

People speed into them, and don't yield... at least around here.
Recently, a 5-way stop was turned into a double round-about, and it's
become hell... I never know which way I'm to go when I head into it. I
tried it, twice. I take a different route, now. The project was
proposed for a traffic light at around 1.3 million dollars, or the
double round-about for over 7 million dollars... of course, they took
the "waste tax-payer money" option.

> I forgot the best thing of all:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Special:Random

Took me to: Dominic Naylor - English "Football" player

[Cindy Hamilton]

That happens. I hit the "back" button and try again. I can spend
hours looking at random Wikipedia pages. There are some amazingly
pretty train stations out there.

It used to be that every page had a "random" link on it, but they
got rid of it.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

My guess is that roundabouts in the US will never work as well as they do in the UK. Why is that? Maybe we don't build them right, maybe we're different kinds of drivers. All that's needed is a study costing hundreds of millions of dollars to find the answers.

Speaking of bajillions of bucks, we finally got to ride our brand spanking new rail system today. It was the fondest wish of each and every Hawaiian that we could live long enough to ride this highly anticipated monster money pit, which starts off from the middle of nowhere and ends up in a place you really wouldn't want to end up at while passing through some depressing scenery. Abandoned pineapple fields aren't all that pretty. Who knew? Also unexpected was that a modern, hi-tech, train, would have a ride similar to a 60's era Honolulu Rapid Transit bus. It was a day full of surprises.

My son had to hold the door open which had closed on a little girl. The dad, for some reason, had decided to jump on the train at the last moment. His younger daughter and wife barely made it through but his older daughter didn't. The intercom blared out a warning not to block the doors while the little girl fought her way in. The family made it through somewhat intact and traumatized and my son wanted to punch the idiot dad in the face. That would have been a wonderful cap to an exciting, momentous, 4th of July.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sDCtg4YcvzsAnSN68
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Honolulu_Skyline_train.jpg

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote:

> I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli.
> I could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along
> with a bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
>
> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them
> into "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve it
> over egg noodles.
>
> Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
>

> Jill

I know it's a late reply but still deciding, tonights meal.

I signed up for 'misfits/imperfect foods' again. Got my first box
today. Lots of lovely vegetables and fruits plus a free range organic
chicken at a really good price.

Most comes from overstocked items and sometimes the veggies are oddly
shaped (like carrots with 2 'legs' and such). Doesn't impact taste.
organic and non-organic things. Oddly, the organic can be cheaper
sometimes.

[cshenk]

dsi1 wrote:

> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-10, jmcquown wrote:
> > I'm undecided. I have some frozen spinach & ricotta filled ravioli.
> > I could quickly boil it and make a sage-butter sauce for it along
> > with a bit of grated Parmesan cheese.
> >
> > Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn them
> > into "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce and serve
> > it over egg noodles.
> >
> > Decisions, decisions. Anything on your menu tonight?
> >
> > Jill
>

> I'm making carnitas. I was going to make kalua pork but I've pretty
> much had it with kalua pork. I'll never make it again - except if I'm
> on the mainland.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/tYY84yjRm6eFS3zp9

I did pulled pork last week.

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote:

> On 6/30/2023 6:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2023-06-30 5:45 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:22:16 -0400, jmcquown
> > > <j_mc...@comcast.net>

> >
> > > > Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn
> > > > them into "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce
> > > > and serve it over egg noodles.
> > > >
> > > > Decisions, decisions.  Anything on your menu tonight?
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >

> > > I thought you regularly dined at the Dataw Private Club?
> >
> > I thought that she had made it pretty clear that she resents having
> > to deal with the minimum annual she has to spend at the club
> > because she doesn't like the food and rarely eats there.
> >
> lucretia hasn't been paying attention. I regularly post about the
> food I've cooked.
>
> Jill

Didn't they close during covid? Maybe they didn't reopen?

[jmcquown]

I presume they closed during Covid. Possibly they had some sort of
limited take-out available, no in-house dining (there are three
different dining rooms with different fare). I stopped eating there
before anyone ever heard of Covid. Of course they re-opened. I posted
one of the lunch/dinner menu specials a day or so after lucretia posted
her comment.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/5/2023 3:15 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/30/2023 6:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-30 5:45 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 17:22:16 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>> <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>>>> Or, I could brown some ground beef & pork meatballs and turn
>>>>>> them into "Swedish meatballs" simmered in a sour cream sauce
>>>>>> and serve it over egg noodles.
>>>>>>

>>>>>> Decisions, decisions.  Anything on your menu tonight?

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you regularly dined at the Dataw Private Club?
>>>>
>>>> I thought that she had made it pretty clear that she
>>>> resents having
>>>> to  deal with the minimum annual she has to spend at the club
>>>> because she  doesn't like the food and rarely eats there.
>>>>
>>> lucretia hasn't been paying attention.  I regularly post
>>> about the
>>> food I've cooked.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Didn't they close during covid?  Maybe they didn't reopen?
>
> I presume they closed during Covid.  Possibly they had some
> sort of limited take-out available, no in-house dining (there
> are three different dining rooms with different fare).  I
> stopped eating there before anyone ever heard of Covid.  Of
> course they re-opened.  I posted one of the lunch/dinner menu
> specials a day or so after lucretia posted her comment.
>
> Jill

Thanks. I can't wait for your next installment.

Keep up the good work.

[Bruce]

No trolling, please - Lucretia didn't like you trolling her, Jill!

[cshenk]

Sorry, missed the menu post. Mostly, I liked your pictures of the view.

[jmcquown]

On 7/5/2023 9:11 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Didn't they close during covid? Maybe they didn't reopen?
>> I presume they closed during Covid. Possibly they had some sort of
>> limited take-out available, no in-house dining (there are three
>> different dining rooms with different fare). I stopped eating there
>> before anyone ever heard of Covid. Of course they re-opened. I
>> posted one of the lunch/dinner menu specials a day or so after
>> lucretia posted her comment.
>>
>> Jill
> Sorry, missed the menu post. Mostly, I liked your pictures of the view.

No problem. I'm not sure what pictures of the view you're referring to.

Jill

[Michael Trew]

Hmm... I'll have to head back and try again. I might go and look up
where I saved the pictures of the abandoned train station I slipped into
in Brownsville, PA. It was once beautiful with marble. The marble is
still there, but the inside of the 5 story building isn't very pretty
anymore. Much fun to explore, however. Brownsville is basically a
ghost town now; at least market street. It went down with the river
shipping industry.

[GM]

You need to STOP with the "exploring" abandoned/decrepit buildings...

It's a dandy way to become injured - or even *dead*...

You might not even be found for days - or even at *all*...

And if you are injured, you don't even have health insurance - the potential financial hit could take every penny you have, and put you into debt for *life*...

You are also technically *trespassing*...

Remember, you have a daughter to raise...

<nagging mode OFF>

--
GM