most addictive food

[bruce bowser]

"Topping the list were pizza, chocolate, chips, cookies, ice cream, French fries, cake and soda, all considered processed foods. They were followed by cheese and bacon – both unprocessed foods, but high in fat and salt."

You May Be A Pizza-Holic: Research Says Some Foods Addicting
CNN - Oct 23,, 2015
-- https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/23/health/pizza-and-other-foods-addicting/index.html

[bruce bowser]

I think that sour apple vodka with orange juice is the most addictive.

[Ed P]

Sounds about right. I've not had soda in ten years now, except tonic
water with gin a couple of times a week. Don't buy chips either as I
like them too much.

I do have a chocolate truffle every night after dinner.

[Dave Smith]

We were out for dinner on Tuesday for my wife's birthday. My dinner came
with fries. I had maybe a half dozen. They were good, but I tend to
avoid fries.

Potato chips are my SiLs downfall. She likes to munch on them while she
watches television. She used to be quite fit but she has put on a lot of
weight and it's mainly the chips. I have never been interested in potato
chips. It's probably been 20 years since the last time I bought any. I
did have a small exception on day last month. I had been on a charity
ride and was given a swag bag that contained a bag of Miss Vickie's
potato chips. I stopped by at the dog park to meet my wife and I
remembered the chips were in my bag and figured I would have a few.
Damn. They were the best potato chips I ever had and I ended up eating
the whole bag.

[dsi1]

I'm pretty much burnt out on pizza. Here's what I had for supper.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/VsvraLeiFTbBDke89

[dsi1]

If I waited 20 years before eating a potato chip, my guess is that it would be the best chip I ever ate too.
My daughter said that some guy brought in his dead dog to the animal clinic and claimed that the dog was dead because the clinic failed to tend to it. That was pretty nutty because that dog was stiff as a board. It was a French bulldog which is a hot breed, I hear. The puppies go for a lot of dough and guy was a scamming puppy-mill pimp. That's quite a shame.

[bruce bowser]

I still think that of those red hot spicy Seven Eleven Select potato chips.

[dsi1]

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:04:37 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> I still think that of those red hot spicy Seven Eleven Select potato chips.

Here's what I saw at the 7-Eleven recently. I'm sorry to say that I was too chicken to purchase it. The next time I'm there, I shall boldly pick one up and try it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvQyj4qvawU

[Bruce]

On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 11:56:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:04:37 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>> I still think that of those red hot spicy Seven Eleven Select potato chips.
>
>Here's what I saw at the 7-Eleven recently. I'm sorry to say that I was too chicken to purchase it.

You? The Hawaiian superhero who'll eat anything without thinking
because he doesn't live in fear? Afraid?

[dsi1]

The difference between you and me is that my thing is conquering my fears. Yours is reveling and living with yours. Ick.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 11:56:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:04:37 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >> I still think that of those red hot spicy Seven Eleven Select potato chips.
>> >
>> >Here's what I saw at the 7-Eleven recently. I'm sorry to say that I was too chicken to purchase it.
>> You? The Hawaiian superhero who'll eat anything without thinking
>> because he doesn't live in fear? Afraid?
>
>The difference between you and me is that my thing is conquering my fears. Yours is reveling and living with yours. Ick.

The difference between you and me is that I use my brain. You just
open your mouth, shove in what will fit and chew. And then you act all
superior. Aww :)

[Bryan Simmons]

I vote for morphine cupcakes. It's got the double
whammy goin' on.

--Bryan

[dsi1]

I use my brain too. Your brain is a font of negativity and tells your to play it safe and don't leave your comfort zone. My brain tells me what the hell - you only live once. Sometimes you just got to close your eyes and jump. It's the reason you're still using an old desktop and running desktop client programs. The very idea of living that way gives me the chills. Yoose is 20 years behind the times. When you die, you'll be 40 years behind the times.

[Hank Rogers]

Tojo, I bet he doesn't even use google. Poor ole master.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:54:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Your idea of leaving your comfort zone is eating genetically modified
corn and using a Chromebook? You really are a super hero! :)

[GM]

Is "Mount Tojo" about to blow it's top...!!!???

Will this rival Mt. Vesuvius or Krakatoa or Mt. St. Helen's in volcanic ferocity...???

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

When mount tojo blows, it will scarely be a mouse fart.

An event only interesting to our master.

[dsi1]

Not at all. My idea of leaving my comfort zone is joining a club and becoming the president of the club, giving speeches, joining other clubs, getting over my fear of large spiders. Eating foods that I'm not comfortable with is minor stuff - you could try that for starters. I suggest natto.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 20:18:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

All things you don't do.

> Eating foods that I'm not comfortable with is minor stuff - you could try that for starters. I suggest natto.

I'll try anything once.

[dsi1]

You're getting all hot and bothered with the idea of dsi1 getting frazzled by whiny little boys. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen.
Lunch today was a braised beef sandwich. I'm going to have to braise me some beef because it's damn tasty! It's similar to a pot roast except there's no gravy - it's all just an intense beef flavor. What a concept! My wife had a lobster bisque - of course, I have to make that too.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/k6zm1bXuhyvmVvZVA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Nt8CFUj6PNHe7rC6A

[dsi1]

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:24:47 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> All things you don't do.

Ha ha, you're wrong about all that. The funny thing about giving a speech is that I don't feel a thing. I'm perfectly relaxed. Evidently, I am a super hero.

[Bruce]

Strategic snipping, superhero.

[dsi1]

Here you go. No snipping. Happy? Now quit your whining.

[Dave Smith]

For some people, public speaking is their number one biggest fear. I am
always reminded of our public speaking in elementary school and
Christine B being unable to do it. Christine was one of the best
students in the class. She would show up well prepared with all her
points neatly printed on 4x6 cards and always nicely dressed and hair
done up. She would get up there in front of the class, stand up
straight with her hands together hold her he cards. She would smile at
the class and would be all set to begin her speech. Then she would turn
pink, then red, back to pink, then white and then down she would go. She
probably had the best speech in the entire class prepared but in all the
years we did public speaking we never once heard hers.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 09:21:28 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-07-21 11:33 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:24:47 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> All things you don't do.
>>
>> Ha ha, you're wrong about all that. The funny thing about giving a speech is that I don't feel a thing. I'm perfectly relaxed. Evidently, I am a super hero.
>
>
>For some people, public speaking is their number one biggest fear. I am
>always reminded of our public speaking in elementary school and
>Christine B being unable to do it.

Interesting.

[cshenk]

dsi1 wrote:

> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:33:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>

> I use my brain too. Your brain is a font of negativity and tells your
> to play it safe and don't leave your comfort zone. My brain tells me
> what the hell - you only live once. Sometimes you just got to close
> your eyes and jump. It's the reason you're still using an old desktop
> and running desktop client programs. The very idea of living that way
> gives me the chills. Yoose is 20 years behind the times. When you
> die, you'll be 40 years behind the times.

I read an article. It seems desktops are gaining ground with the under
30 crowd set. The price is lower and you can go multi screen for
pennies.

[cshenk]

Sad but happens. Life put me in a lot of public speaking cases and I
happen to excel at it. I do get it that it scares some people.

[Dave Smith]

Laptops and tablets were doing well for a while but I thought maybe they
were mainly toys for people that already had computers. I like my
laptop for some things but if I had to choose between the lap top and
the desk top I would likely go with the latter.

That being said, laptops are handy when you are travelling.

[Ed P]

Some years ago we had a new salesman; I did the product training. He
managed to get an appointment with a very large potential customer and I
went with him as he requested, just for support if needed. According to
Rich, it was just a one on one meeting with a buyer.

We get to the account HQ, meet the buyer and he informs us there are six
designers waiting for us to learn about the product and how it can fit
their needs.

After some quick into, Rich is at the head of the table and introduces
him, the company, them stammers and says, to my surprise, "Ed will tell
you how it works and can be integrated into your products" Then he sat
down. My 20 years experience in the industry was used.

[Ed P]

IMO, they both have a place. Most of my more serious wok is done at the
desktop. Editing photos, letters, banking.

The laptop, like I'm doing right now, sits on my belly while I'm in the
recliner and listening to music. It also has thousands of miles when I
travel.

Oh, I can cast YouTube videos to the TV too. The other day, Chicago
Symphony Beethoven 9th. Best hour and 20 minutes of the day.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-23, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-07-23 12:14 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:33:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>>
>>> I use my brain too. Your brain is a font of negativity and tells your
>>> to play it safe and don't leave your comfort zone. My brain tells me
>>> what the hell - you only live once. Sometimes you just got to close
>>> your eyes and jump. It's the reason you're still using an old desktop
>>> and running desktop client programs. The very idea of living that way
>>> gives me the chills. Yoose is 20 years behind the times. When you
>>> die, you'll be 40 years behind the times.
>>
>> I read an article. It seems desktops are gaining ground with the under
>> 30 crowd set. The price is lower and you can go multi screen for
>> pennies.
>
> Laptops and tablets were doing well for a while but I thought maybe they
> were mainly toys for people that already had computers.

Laptops are the preferred platform for any business person who has
a need to travel. Or work from home, which has become extremely
common in the last three years.

They just get used to the cramped keyboard and the touchpad. Or
they get keyboard, mouse, and monitor for when they're stationary.

Toward the end of my career, IT stopped providing desktop PCs
altogether, except to the hardware engineers, who needed a _lot_
of horsepower for 3D CAD applications.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[S Viemeister]

On 23/07/2023 18:34, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Laptops are the preferred platform for any business person who has
> a need to travel. Or work from home, which has become extremely
> common in the last three years.
>

Indeed.

My daughter works from 'home' most of the time. 'Home' can be lots of
places, and she travels quite a lot, both for business and pleasure.

She'll be with us in Scotland for a week or so, and keeps a nice big
curved monitor and other bits and pieces for when she's working here.

My husband also uses a laptop for work, whether he's in the US or the UK.

With a laptop and a mobile phone, people can work from nearly anywhere.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-07-23, Ed P wrote:

> The laptop, like I'm doing right now,
> sits on my belly while I'm in the
> recliner and listening to music.

Mine has the cooling inflow vents on the bottom,
the warm air exits past the keyboard keys.

I built a stand using a wire-mesh in-basket
tie-wrapped to wire-mesh stationary baskets.

My main land-line phone has room under the PC.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:22:16 -0400, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 7/23/2023 1:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-07-23 12:14 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:33:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>>>
>>>> I use my brain too. Your brain is a font of negativity and tells your
>>>> to play it safe and don't leave your comfort zone. My brain tells me
>>>> what the hell - you only live once. Sometimes you just got to close
>>>> your eyes and jump. It's the reason you're still using an old desktop
>>>> and running desktop client programs. The very idea of living that way
>>>> gives me the chills. Yoose is 20 years behind the times. When you
>>>> die, you'll be 40 years behind the times.
>>>
>>> I read an article.  It seems desktops are gaining ground with the under
>>> 30 crowd set.  The price is lower and you can go multi screen for
>>> pennies.
>>
>> Laptops and tablets were doing well for a while but I thought maybe they
>> were mainly toys for people that already had computers.  I like my
>> laptop for some things but if I had to choose between the lap top and
>> the desk top I would likely go with the latter.
>>
>> That being said, laptops are handy when you are travelling.
>>
>
>IMO, they both have a place. Most of my more serious wok is done at the
>desktop. Editing photos, letters, banking.

Don't tell dsi1. He frowns upon that.

[dsi1]

People seem to have lost interest in desktops and notebook computers in a post-Covid world. It's probably a good time to buy a PC. My guess is that the longer you wait, the lower the prices will be. You might want to start making your purchasing plans now if that's what you're interested in.

[Thomas]

My main land-line phone..
What's that?

[Bruce]

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You must remember the 80s?

[dsi1]

My prefered laptop has a low wattage processor and passive cooling. There's no air vents either. It's kind of a beautiful thing.

[dsi1]

dsi1 doesn't really care what other people do. dsi1 is mostly concerned about things he has control over.

[Bruce]

Oh good. Does that mean you've stopped criticising people who use real
computers?

[dsi1]

I use real computers. You use old computers made for a time when there was no connection to the outside world. That doesn't make you special. I abandoned that way of computing long ago.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Ah, so your criticising and chest thumping simply continues. Ok.

[dsi1]

You're claiming that you use "real" computers. That's your arrogant term. How about saying that you use Windows computers - that's what you're really using. "Real" ain't got nothing to do with it.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:08:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I use real computers. You use old computers made for a time when there was no connection to the outside world. That doesn't make you special. I abandoned that way of computing long ago.
>> >
>> Ah, so your criticising and chest thumping simply continues. Ok.
>
>You're claiming that you use "real" computers. That's your arrogant term.

Indeed :)

> How about saying that you use Windows computers - that's what you're
> really using. "Real" ain't got nothing to do with it.

It doesn't have to be Windows. It can also be Mac or Linux. I mean
computers that can do the heavier application work. If I only used
email, Usenet and a web browser, I wouldn't need a desktop computer or
a serious laptop.

[jmcquown]

David is the head cheerleader for Google.

Jill

[dsi1]

Indeed. Everything is proceeding as I have predicted. The most popular OS currently is based on Linux. My phones and computers all use Linux based OSes. Hopefully, we'll have an alternative, non-Linux kernel in existence before I'm no longer in existence.

[dsi1]

At least dsi1 is not Microsoft's bitch. OTOH, my guess is that you're using Google constantly during the day. That makes you a dirty rotten liar.

[Bruce]

Duckduckgo is my default search engine, but there are a few things
where Google is better. It depends if you need those things.

[dsi1]

I have no experience or opinion with/about DDG. ChatGPT is better able to give an overview on the matter:

"Google" and "DuckDuckGo" are two popular search engines with different strengths and it really depends on what you value in a search engine to say which one is "better".

Google is known for its powerful search capabilities and is often able to deliver very accurate and relevant results. Its search algorithms are extremely sophisticated, which makes it a great tool for finding specific information. Google also personalizes search results based on your browsing history and has more robust integration with other services such as Google Maps, Google Images, and Google Scholar.

On the other hand, DuckDuckGo is known for prioritizing user privacy. It doesn't track users or personalize search results, which can be a plus for users who are concerned about privacy. However, this could mean the search results are not as tailored to the individual user as Google's. Also, DuckDuckGo sources its results from over 400 different sources, including its own crawler (DuckDuckBot), crowdsourced websites, and other search engines like Bing.

So, if you prioritize privacy and don't want your searches tracked or data collected, DuckDuckGo may be the better choice. But if you want highly personalized, accurate search results and don't mind data collection, then Google might be better.

Remember, though, the "best" search engine can vary depending on what you value most in a search tool. You might want to experiment with both to see which one you prefer.

[Hank Rogers]

Except for shit about da mainland. And racial shit.

[Hank Rogers]

It shows, Tojo.

[Hank Rogers]

Uncle, are yoose about to *give him da last word* ?

[Bruce]

I notice that Google is better if I search by Dutch keywords. DDG
tends to search for the English words that most resemble my Dutch
keywords, which is not useful.

Also, unless I missed it, DDG doesn't tell you how many times it finds
something. If I want to know if expression A or B is more commonly
used, Google tells me that in the number of hits it found for each
expression.

But Google is a snoopy Big Brother, whereas DDG respects your privacy,
as stated above.

[Hank Rogers]

C'mon, Uncle. Just let her have da last word. Dat will show
that old white woman.

[dsi1]

Indeed. Most of the ads I see are for guitars. Oh boy, I get to look at beautiful guitars all day!

[cshenk]

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2023-07-23 12:14 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:33:02 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > >
> > > I use my brain too. Your brain is a font of negativity and tells
> > > your to play it safe and don't leave your comfort zone. My brain
> > > tells me what the hell - you only live once. Sometimes you just
> > > got to close your eyes and jump. It's the reason you're still
> > > using an old desktop and running desktop client programs. The
> > > very idea of living that way gives me the chills. Yoose is 20
> > > years behind the times. When you die, you'll be 40 years behind
> > > the times.
> >
> > I read an article. It seems desktops are gaining ground with the
> > under 30 crowd set. The price is lower and you can go multi screen
> > for pennies.
>

> Laptops and tablets were doing well for a while but I thought maybe
> they were mainly toys for people that already had computers. I like
> my laptop for some things but if I had to choose between the lap top
> and the desk top I would likely go with the latter.
>
> That being said, laptops are handy when you are travelling.

Yes, work was a laptop (had to travel a lot). It was ok with a docking
station. I got my own docking station when covid had us largely
teleworking.

[cshenk]

Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:08:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I use real computers. You use old computers made for a time when
> there was no connection to the outside world. That doesn't make you
> special. I abandoned that way of computing long ago. >> > >> Ah, so
> your criticising and chest thumping simply continues. Ok.
> >
> > You're claiming that you use "real" computers. That's your arrogant
> > term.
>
> Indeed :)
>
> > How about saying that you use Windows computers - that's what you're
> > really using. "Real" ain't got nothing to do with it.
>
> It doesn't have to be Windows. It can also be Mac or Linux. I mean
> computers that can do the heavier application work. If I only used
> email, Usenet and a web browser, I wouldn't need a desktop computer or
> a serious laptop.

Yup. My SQL machine is on SuSe, dual boot to Win7. 2 XP machines and
a win11.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-07-23 5:52 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:26:10 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> At least dsi1 is not Microsoft's bitch. OTOH, my guess is that
>>> you're using Google constantly during the day. That makes you a
>>> dirty rotten liar.
>>>
>> Duckduckgo is my default search engine, but there are a few things
>> where Google is better. It depends if you need those things.
>
> I have no experience or opinion with/about DDG. ChatGPT is better
> able to give an overview on the matter:
>

One of the disadvantages of using Google as a search engine is that they
track you and then send you ads. I have used it to look for things
online and the next thing you know you are seeing ads for similar
products.

I found a way to use it to my advantage. After searching for things I
would then search lingerie and the Victoria's Secret site. Then the next
time I got the advertising they were sending images of well built women
in scanty lingerie.

[dsi1]

In my case, it's guitars. As far as tracking goes, Google knows where my phone goes, at all times. I can call up a map to see where I was going over a decade ago. This is going to make it hard for me to kill my neighbor and bury his body in a cane field at midnight. It's a very weird world we live in these days - getting away with murder ain't as easy as it used to be.

[GM]

There are minor and major Prophets in the Bible, who didn’t foretell the future, but rather, *forthtell* the future...

We here are forthtelling the future, prophesizing what will come...

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-07-23, GM wrote:

> There are minor and major Prophets in the Bible,
> who didn’t foretell the future, but rather,
> *forthtell* the future...

Whereas you, Greg, are 'froth-telling' the future.

[GM]

"We now have diagnosed you as being in a 'hyper - manic' phase...

As a result, we have made a reservation for you at the Gigglesnort Hotel...

Your 'character' will be known as Venerable Onkel Tojo - san...

And you can NEVER check out..."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigglesnort_Hotel

"Gigglesnort Hotel is a syndicated children's television program which ran for 78 episodes between 1975 and 1978. It was hosted by Bill Jackson, previously the host of several Chicago-based children's programs including Clown Alley and The BJ and Dirty Dragon Show. The program was set, as the title implies, at an old hotel, where Jackson's role was a desk clerk...

The program featured many of the characters from the previous show, including Dirty Dragon, the Old Professor, Weird, Old Mother Plumtree, and several others who were created just for the program, such as the hotel's owner, Old Man Gigglesnort..."

--
GM

[GM]

Lol... here Mike speaks The Truth...

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

Isn't that bad for your heart?

[Hank Rogers]

A crafty asian can always find a way.

[Thomas]

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 3:39:39 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:51:41 PM UTC-4, Mike Duffy wrote:
> >> On 2023-07-23, Ed P wrote:
> >>
> >> > The laptop, like I'm doing right now,
> >> > sits on my belly while I'm in the
> >> > recliner and listening to music.
> >> Mine has the cooling inflow vents on the bottom,
> >> the warm air exits past the keyboard keys.
> >>
> >> I built a stand using a wire-mesh in-basket
> >> tie-wrapped to wire-mesh stationary baskets.
> >>
> >> My main land-line phone has room under the PC.
> >
> >My main land-line phone..
> >What's that?
> >
> You must remember the 80s?
I still have one on the basement wall. I think I went all wireless early 2000's.
Back when a 5 second porn clip would take 10 minutes to download. And it was worth the wait.
Maybe the 70's for that.

[Michael Trew]

On 7/20/2023 1:01 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 7/20/2023 10:51 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
>> "Topping the list were pizza, chocolate, chips, cookies, ice cream,
>> French fries, cake and soda, all considered processed foods. They were
>> followed by cheese and bacon – both unprocessed foods, but high in fat
>> and salt."
>
> Sounds about right. I've not had soda in ten years now, except tonic
> water with gin a couple of times a week. Don't buy chips either as I
> like them too much.
>
> I do have a chocolate truffle every night after dinner.

Chocolate and french fries, I guess; Everything else, no. I can polish
off an order of fries (or anything made of potatoes), and I usually have
a bag of semi-sweet chocolate chips at home. Everything else
infrequently, and in moderation. I don't get why many people seem to be
obsessed with pizza. It's okay, every few months or so.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-23, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-07-23 5:52 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:26:10 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> At least dsi1 is not Microsoft's bitch. OTOH, my guess is that
>>>> you're using Google constantly during the day. That makes you a
>>>> dirty rotten liar.
>>>>
>>> Duckduckgo is my default search engine, but there are a few things
>>> where Google is better. It depends if you need those things.
>>
>> I have no experience or opinion with/about DDG. ChatGPT is better
>> able to give an overview on the matter:
>>
>
> One of the disadvantages of using Google as a search engine is that they
> track you and then send you ads. I have used it to look for things
> online and the next thing you know you are seeing ads for similar
> products.

Oh, that is the end of the world. Yes, it's a little creepy. But
I don't see the difference between being served ads for stuff similar
to what I've searched for, and random ads. I barely look at them
either way.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

It's not the end of the world, but if there's an alternative that
doesn't do that...

[jmcquown]

Adblock software does wonders. :)

Jill

[Michael Trew]

On 7/24/2023 4:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

The part that gets me, is that there is a database built for you,
collecting as much of your info as possible. I'd prefer to opt-out, if
at all possible.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Ooh. A database. Anarchy in the streets! Cats and dogs, sleeping
together!

I use my credit card for everything. I have an affinity card at my
grocery store. I'm already in a bunch of databases.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

My guess is that it's not possible to "opt-out" and that the Chinese will be masters of harvesting, retaining, analyzing, and implementing data. They consider it to be the new-age petroleum that will run the world i.e., the country that masters data will become masters of the world.

[Bruce]

If you can also use Duckduckgo, who respect your privacy, why wouldn't
you? What do you have to prove?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-07-23, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2023-07-23 5:52 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> One of the disadvantages of using Google as a search engine is that they
> track you and then send you ads. I have used it to look for things
> online and the next thing you know you are seeing ads for similar
> products.

My wife or I decide to buy something. We go online, find the product and
buy it, say from Amazon. For several days, Amazon bombards us with emails
showing similar or better deals. We already bought it! They already got
paid! What the hell?
If you like the printer you just bought, check this one out!

[GM]

You *specifically* are *already* in a number of databases...

What are you "afraid" of, in any case...???

--
GM

[Bruce]

On 26 Jul 2023 00:46:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

I've heard of upselling and cross-selling, but this is weird.

[jmcquown]

I agree, it's annoying. People occasionally post links here to things
they bought on Amazon or wherever and if I click on them to see what
they're talking about suddenly I'm innundated with emails from Amazon
for things someone else bought and similar items. Yeah, I know I could
sign in and navigate the ridiculous website to try to opt out of those
emails. Sorry, trying to figure that out takes up more of my time than
I care to waste. Delete, delete, delete.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Exactly, Your Majesty.

What I can't figure is why your highness falls for the shit
time after time.

[Dave Smith]

That's why I do the Victoria's Secrets lingerie searches. They send me
ads with photos of pretty women in sexy underwear. It is a refreshing
change for the other things they think I am interested in.

[Hank Rogers]

But eventually, you have to glance at Megatron.

Then you vomit.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 19:22:38 -0400, Dave Smith

We understood, Dave. LOL, Dave!

[Thomas Joseph]

Good point. You can't always tell a person's chief interest on the
basis of what they read or watch. For instance, I know a guy who
buys a lot of porn. He is strictly straight but he buys only gay porn.
Some of the guys doing gay porn - especially still photos - are
actually straight. My straight friend stares at the erect penises
of the straight models and imagines what the women they're
thinking about look like. I know some gay guys who also use
this extremely advanced reverse psychology porn viewing method.
They buy porn of straight guys with large thick cocks fucking women
but block the women out of their minds. One gay friend told me
it is not always possible to block women out of the picture, but he
said that the bigger and stiffer the cock is the easier it is to pretend
the woman is not there. This is imaginative masturbation at its best.
There is no limit to it.

[GM]

Don't her HRH Jill have a Royal PRIVATE Shopper, anyways...???


Her Royal Gloved Hands should not deign to enter websites for something as crude and plebian as commercial goods transactions...

--
GM

[GM]

Officer Dave oogling the Victoria's Sekret site gives me a slightly queezy feeling...

Akin to viewing a Kuthe sex post...

Or imagining Princess Jill engaging in an act of coitus...

--
GM

[Michael Trew]

That never happens to me when I click on an Amazon link. Then again, I
don't get E-Mail messages from Amazon, because I don't shop there.

[Michael Trew]

On 7/25/2023 8:58 PM, GM wrote:

> Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> The part that gets me, is that there is a database built for you,
>> collecting as much of your info as possible. I'd prefer to opt-out, if
>> at all possible.
>
> You *specifically* are *already* in a number of databases...
>
> What are you "afraid" of, in any case...???

I'm not afraid of anything. I'm primarily annoyed at the though of
someone profiting from targeting advertisements toward me. I'm more
annoyed at targeted e-mail advertisements cluttering my in-box. When I
quit using Google and Amazon, these stopped basically all together. I
install Ad Block Plus for good measure (Firefox, not anything Chromium).

On that subject, I don't like location services, or anything tracking my
physical location. No company needs to gain insight as to where I am,
what I'm doing, where I'm shopping, etc. I'll look for your services if
I'm interested. If not, buzz off!

[Ed Pawlowski]

only emails I get from Amazon are order status. I sent a gift to
someone in MA and when it was delivered today, I got a notice. I knew
it before she did.

[GM]

Same here... I am a big Amazon Prime (and also Squallmart) user, and I *only* get emails concerning orders, absolutely zero "spam"...

Jill is "making things up" in this matter...

--
GM

[Cindy Hamilton]

I shop there, and I don't get marketing e-mails from them.

My husband throws a wobbler whenever he gets an e-mail he didn't want,
so we manage our preferences rigorously.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-27, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> On 7/25/2023 8:58 PM, GM wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> The part that gets me, is that there is a database built for you,
>>> collecting as much of your info as possible. I'd prefer to opt-out, if
>>> at all possible.
>>
>> You *specifically* are *already* in a number of databases...
>>
>> What are you "afraid" of, in any case...???
>
> I'm not afraid of anything. I'm primarily annoyed at the though of
> someone profiting from targeting advertisements toward me.

They profit from un-targeted advertisements as well.

> I'm more
> annoyed at targeted e-mail advertisements cluttering my in-box. When I
> quit using Google and Amazon, these stopped basically all together. I
> install Ad Block Plus for good measure (Firefox, not anything Chromium).
>
> On that subject, I don't like location services, or anything tracking my
> physical location. No company needs to gain insight as to where I am,
> what I'm doing, where I'm shopping, etc. I'll look for your services if
> I'm interested. If not, buzz off!

Cutting off your nose to spite your face. I don't indiscriminately
allow myself to be located, but it's very useful for AirNow.gov,
Google maps (which I use for real-time traffic when I visit my
mother, to choose which route to take*), and the power outage map
from my electrical service provider, among others.

*Good thing, too. Eastbound I-696 was completely closed for a stretch
of the way sometime in the past week or so. I would have been
royally pissed to find out by seeing "Road Closed. Detour -->"
signs.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[lucr...@florence.it]

I shop at amazon but never get those ads - perhaps because I run a
good adblocker.

[Janet]

In article <KZlwM.248538$mPI2....@fx15.iad>,
michae...@att.net says...

>
> On 7/26/2023 6:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/25/2023 8:46 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >>
> >> My wife or I decide to buy something. We go online, find the product and
> >> buy it, say from Amazon. For several days, Amazon bombards us with emails
> >> showing similar or better deals. We already bought it! They already got
> >> paid! What the hell?
> >> If you like the printer you just bought, check this one out!
> >
> > I agree, it's annoying. People occasionally post links here to things
> > they bought on Amazon or wherever and if I click on them to see what
> > they're talking about suddenly I'm innundated with emails

That never ever happens to me. But then I don't
publicise my email address to all and sundry.

from Amazon
> > for things someone else bought and similar items. Yeah, I know I could
> > sign in and navigate the ridiculous website to try to opt out of those
> > emails. Sorry, trying to figure that out takes up more of my time than I
> > care to waste. Delete, delete, delete.
> >
> > Jill
>
> That never happens to me when I click on an Amazon link.

Me neither (or any other link).

Then again, I
> don't get E-Mail messages from Amazon, because I don't shop there.

I do shop there, but the only emails I get from Amazon
are to confirm my order. Never unsolicited adverts.

Janet UK

[Bruce]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 12:05:15 +0100, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:

>In article <KZlwM.248538$mPI2....@fx15.iad>,
>michae...@att.net says...
>>
>> On 7/26/2023 6:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> > On 7/25/2023 8:46 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My wife or I decide to buy something. We go online, find the product and
>> >> buy it, say from Amazon. For several days, Amazon bombards us with emails
>> >> showing similar or better deals. We already bought it! They already got
>> >> paid! What the hell?
>> >> If you like the printer you just bought, check this one out!
>> >
>> > I agree, it's annoying. People occasionally post links here to things
>> > they bought on Amazon or wherever and if I click on them to see what
>> > they're talking about suddenly I'm innundated with emails
>
> That never ever happens to me. But then I don't
>publicise my email address to all and sundry.

Why not? Don't you like them?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-07-27, GM <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Same here... I am a big Amazon Prime (and also Squallmart) user, and I *only* get emails concerning orders, absolutely zero "spam"...

> Jill is "making things up" in this matter...

That was me. I used Amazon as a poor example. I'll have to document my
outrage, with whoever the hell it is, more precisely. Apologies, and stay
tuned.

[Bruce]

bruce bowser wrote:

> I think that sour apple vodka with orange juice is the most addictive.


No trolling, please. Jill won't like it that you are trolling.

[cshenk]

It helps if all the stuff from ref=..... is removed.