O.T. --- BRRRRRRRRRR, Chilly Sunday Morning, October 8, 2023 --- O.T.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

How's the weather in your area this morning and today? Presently it's
66°F (19°C) and I'm occasionally hearing my wind chimes.

It was 45°F (7.22°C) when I went to bed last night and like the night
before I spread and oversized afghan over my bed. I always keep a
blanket on the bed year-round but I knew it would not be warm enough.
This morning I drug out the lightweight quilt I also use in the fall and
early spring. That should have went on the bed when I changed the
sheets Saturday, but I'm ready for tonight now.  🥶

[GM]

Cloudy and 55, and that's the high for today...

LUVIN' IT...

Temps will be cooler than usual aka "STRONGER COLD FRONT", map below from NOAA:

https://postimg.cc/2VZT8X4R

I am making meatloaf today, also some escalloped pertaters... COMFORT food... HAPPY HAPPY ;-)

PS:

Joan, if Sheldon were still here, I wonder if he'd offer to come down and "snuggle up" with ya...???

;-D

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 1:08:19 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > How's the weather in your area this morning and today?
> >

> Cloudy and 55, and that's the high for today...
>
> LUVIN' IT...
>
> Temps will be cooler than usual aka "STRONGER COLD FRONT", map below from NOAA:
>
> https://postimg.cc/2VZT8X4R
>

It's very clear and sunny here, I've already heard two lawn mowers this morning,
just very cool.

>
> I am making meatloaf today, also some escalloped pertaters... COMFORT food... HAPPY HAPPY ;-)
>

No idea what supper will be.

>
> PS:
>
> Joan, if Sheldon were still here, I wonder if he'd offer to come down and "snuggle up" with ya...???
>
> ;-D
>

I'd rather have the lightweight quilt on my bed and presently that afghan is thrown
across my legs to keep me comfortable.

[jmcquown]

On 10/8/2023 1:45 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> How's the weather in your area this morning and today? Presently it's
> 66°F (19°C) and I'm occasionally hearing my wind chimes.
>

It's about 70°F here today and I have the windows open.

> It was 45°F (7.22°C) when I went to bed last night and like the night
> before I spread and oversized afghan over my bed. I always keep a
> blanket on the bed year-round but I knew it would not be warm enough.
> This morning I drug out the lightweight quilt I also use in the fall and
> early spring. That should have went on the bed when I changed the
> sheets Saturday, but I'm ready for tonight now.  🥶

I didn't pay any attention to what the temp was when I went to bed. It
was about 78°F yesterday and humid so today is a nice change. :)

Jill

[Ed P]

On 10/8/2023 1:45 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>

Coolest in a while. 79 right now and the next week is mostly mid 80s.
That is comfortable. Glad to see the 90s gone.

[GM]

Is it *always* humid there, humidity I abhor...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

It started cooling down here on Thursday evening. It was in the 50s
yesterday and we closed the windows and set up a space heater just in
case. I got by with a sweater but after walking the dog this afternoon I
turned on the furnace. It is currently 48F outside and the inside
temperature got down to 60.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-10-08, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> How's the weather in your area this morning and today? Presently it's
> 66°F (19°C) and I'm occasionally hearing my wind chimes.

Morning is long past. It's 54 F right now; we're expecting a low
of 37 F tonight.

> It was 45°F (7.22°C) when I went to bed last night and like the night
> before I spread and oversized afghan over my bed. I always keep a
> blanket on the bed year-round but I knew it would not be warm enough.
> This morning I drug out the lightweight quilt I also use in the fall and
> early spring. That should have went on the bed when I changed the
> sheets Saturday, but I'm ready for tonight now.  🥶

It'll still be 71 F in the house, so I'll use the same bed linens
I've been using all summer.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Give them a wash.

[Michael Trew]

On 10/8/2023 1:45 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>

The highs for the next few days are in the mid 50's, which was a very
abrupt shift from mid-80's not even a week ago. It will get back up to
the high 60's for a bit, but the cold is setting in. I have my bed
dressed with three comforters over the sheets. You can bet that I'll be
adding a couple more blankets as we get into the colder season.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:00:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> The highs for the next few days are in the mid 50's, which was a very
> abrupt shift from mid-80's not even a week ago. It will get back up to
> the high 60's for a bit, but the cold is setting in. I have my bed
> dressed with three comforters over the sheets. You can bet that I'll be
> adding a couple more blankets as we get into the colder season.
>

We're predicted to be in the 70's up to 80 or so over the week. But the
nights are going to be nippy.

THREE comforters and maybe more blankets????? How do you turn over
in the bed??

[Thomas]

I have a few extra blankets. 43f right now and the ac is on in the bedroom. Everyday of the year including when it is way below freezing. Just the bedroom.

[Graham]

26C forecast for Calgary today. Cools off tomorrow.

[Michael Trew]

Honestly, I never turn in my sleep. I almost always wake up in the same
position in which I fell asleep. It can be a bit problematic when I
wake up and cannot feel my arm because I laid on it the wrong way all
night. The bonus is that it takes mere seconds to make my bed, haha.

[Dave Smith]

Enjoy it. We had 28C the other day. Today it is 9.

[Bruce]

I thought only women and gays made their bed.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 1:03:28 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote::
>
> I thought only women and gays made their bed.
>

You don't make your bed or is that a chore that is strictly your wife's??

[Ed P]

I picked up the blanket that got knocked to the floor. Does that count?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Hahahaaaaaaa, squirrel!!!!!

[Dave Smith]

With all due respect Ed, you have to. You have no one else to blame for
it being there.


My wife usually makes the bed. That's more because she gets up about an
hour later than I do. If she is away I usually make it as soon as I get
out of it. It is so much easier if I slept alone because the sheets
aren't pulled out and over and folded up all over the place. I get out,
fold the top corner back over, pull it out and it's done.

[Bruce]

What does it even mean? I open one corner of the sheets and blankets
to get in or out of bed. When I get out, I may flap them back or not.
What's the relevance?

[Cindy Hamilton]

I don't make my bed, except when I change the sheets. Sometimes I pull
up the blankets if I want to fold laundry on it.

I don't see the point in making the bed. I don't spend any time in
the bedroom during the day, unless I'm folding laundry.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Thank you.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

*SIGH*  When I make my bed the bottom sheet is smoothed and straightened, then
the top sheet gets the same treatment, then the blanket. Now that the quilt is on the
bed it gets straightened and smoothed, too. Last, the bedspread is adjusted to be
square on the bed and then pillows are covered with the bedspread and tucked
under them. It sounds like a lot, but it's a 5-minute job.

Like this picture I snagged off the internet of a bed made with a bedspread.

https://i.postimg.cc/50xnp8Fy/Bedspread.jpg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:26:40 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I don't make my bed, except when I change the sheets. Sometimes I pull
> up the blankets if I want to fold laundry on it.
>
> I don't see the point in making the bed. I don't spend any time in
> the bedroom during the day, unless I'm folding laundry.
>

> Cindy Hamilton
>
I just like to crawl into a neat and smooth bed at night. I'm sure a lot of
this comes from all beds were made in the morning when I was a child.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 12:34:19 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

But what's the advantage of doing that? Do you regularly take pictures
of your bed? Do you look at it during the day? Do you show it to
visitors?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:26:40 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I don't make my bed, except when I change the sheets. Sometimes I pull
>> up the blankets if I want to fold laundry on it.
>>
>> I don't see the point in making the bed. I don't spend any time in
>> the bedroom during the day, unless I'm folding laundry.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>I just like to crawl into a neat and smooth bed at night.

I never get into bed and think to myself: "By golly, I wish it was
neater and smoother".

[Graham]

There's a school of thought that maintains that one should leave the bed
unmade so that the moisture one gives off in the night, has a chance to
dry out.
That's my excuse anyway:-)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

As I said in a previous post, I like to crawl into a neat and smooth bed each night.
But I am in and out of the bedroom a few days a day cleaning, putting things away,
getting clothes or underwear I might need. Seeing a messy bed would set my teeth
on edge.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Me neither. It was left neat and smooth when I made it that morning.

[ItsJoan NotJoAnn]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:48:35 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>
> There's a school of thought that maintains that one should leave the bed
> unmade so that the moisture one gives off in the night, has a chance to
> dry out.
> That's my excuse anyway:-)
>

Oh, I do throw the covers back and let the mattress and linens 'breathe' and
air out and then make my bed about 15 or 20 minutes later. I did not mean
to give the impression I make as soon as I arise.

[songbird]

i rearrange blankets all day so there's no sense in
making the bed.

top sheets are instruments of the devil - they are not
allowed on my bed.


songbird

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-10-09, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

My mother didn't make her bed. She thought it was as big a waste of
time as I do.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-10-09, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 1:57:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 11:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >You don't make your bed or is that a chore that is strictly your wife's??
>> >
>> What does it even mean? I open one corner of the sheets and blankets
>> to get in or out of bed. When I get out, I may flap them back or not.
>> What's the relevance?
>>
> *SIGH*  When I make my bed the bottom sheet is smoothed and straightened, then

Don't you use fitted bottom sheets? Even if I wanted to, there isn't
much improvement I could make with the bottom sheet, unless I wanted
to pull it off and put it back on again.

> the top sheet gets the same treatment, then the blanket. Now that the quilt is on the
> bed it gets straightened and smoothed, too. Last, the bedspread is adjusted to be
> square on the bed and then pillows are covered with the bedspread and tucked
> under them. It sounds like a lot, but it's a 5-minute job.

I don't use a bedspread. A blanket in the summer and a comforter in
the winter.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 13:40:06 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

Ok, it's a pet peeve, not really a practical issue or a hygiene issue.
My wife has it too.

[jmcquown]

On 10/9/2023 3:26 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-10-09, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 1:03:28 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote::
>>>
>>> I thought only women and gays made their bed.
>>>
>> You don't make your bed or is that a chore that is strictly your wife's??
>
> I don't make my bed, except when I change the sheets. Sometimes I pull
> up the blankets if I want to fold laundry on it.
>

I pull up the top sheet and the woven cotten blanket and straighten them
out when I get up. The bedspread stays turned down at the foot of the
bed. I don't really call that "making the bed". In my mother's world
it would have meant hospital corners and pulling up the bedspread and
tucking it underneath the pillows, all nice and neat. I don't bother
with that.

Jill

[jmcquown]

My mother used to make beds that way. I don't bother. Just pull up the
topsheet and blanket and straighten them out. Leave the bedspread
folded at the foot of the bed.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 4:12:54 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On 2023-10-09, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >>
> > *SIGH*  When I make my bed the bottom sheet is smoothed and straightened, then
> >
> Don't you use fitted bottom sheets? Even if I wanted to, there isn't
> much improvement I could make with the bottom sheet, unless I wanted
> to pull it off and put it back on again.
>

Of course I do, but once I sleep on that sheet it's not smooth and pristine as when
I put it on when sheets are changed.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-10-09, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> As I said in a previous post, I like to crawl into a neat and smooth bed each night.
> But I am in and out of the bedroom a few days a day cleaning, putting things away,
> getting clothes or underwear I might need. Seeing a messy bed would set my teeth
> on edge.

My wife and I sleep in separate bedrooms. Shocking, I know! I watch TV
in bed to all hours, and she prefers noodling on her iPad. We both sleep
when we want to, but we both make our beds.
Years ago, we saw some military commander give a speech in which he
said something like: "If you get up in the morning to change the World,
first, make your bed." It made sense to us. :)

[Bruce]

On 10 Oct 2023 04:40:38 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Sounds effeminate to me.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-10-10, Leonard Blaisdell <leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 2023-10-09, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> As I said in a previous post, I like to crawl into a neat and smooth bed each night.
>> But I am in and out of the bedroom a few days a day cleaning, putting things away,
>> getting clothes or underwear I might need. Seeing a messy bed would set my teeth
>> on edge.
>
>
> My wife and I sleep in separate bedrooms. Shocking, I know!

I'm not shocked. We've been sleeping in separate bedrooms since
his apnea started at the same time I hit middle age and began sleeping
poorly.

> I watch TV
> in bed to all hours, and she prefers noodling on her iPad. We both sleep
> when we want to, but we both make our beds.

We both sleep at more-or-less the same time. Or, at least, I tuck
him in and go to bed. He reads for a while; I drop right off. On
the other end, I get up anywhere from 2 to 4 hours before he does.

> Years ago, we saw some military commander give a speech in which he
> said something like: "If you get up in the morning to change the World,
> first, make your bed." It made sense to us. :)

Good thing I don't get up in the morning to change the world. Instead,
I read Usenet.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

> Good thing I don't get up in the morning to change the world. Instead,
> I read Usenet.

making the bed is something i do once in a while when i
wash my blankets. that's it, otherwise it's my couch and
where i read and compute from during the day, i don't sit
much at all instead i sprawl out. there's no other place
in the house i spend so much time. so making the bed is
a general waste of effort as five minutes later i'd be
likely to move the blankets around anyways. i always have
a blanket around even in the hottest part of the summer
because i don't like sleeping without a cover of some
kind, but i do not want my feet tucked in ever. i hate
that. my feet are my little radiators sticking out of
the ends of the blankets.

right now my futon is also my work station for when i'm
shelling out the dry beans. it's comfortable to sit on
the edge while i'm doing that and i have all my boxes and
containers handy and it's a nice big surface if i need to
have flats spread out or my sorting flat and a lot of
containers. depends upon what i'm working on. since i'm
mostly through the complicated stuff now i don't need
that many containers or flats. once i'm done shelling
then i have to dust the floor and i'll wash all my
blankets and then make the bed after flipping over the
futon. pillow cases and the blanket i use the most will
get washed more often. pillows i wash two or three times
a year.


songbird

[Michael Trew]

On 10/9/2023 2:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2023 10:07:11 -0400, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 10/8/2023 11:12 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>
>>> THREE comforters and maybe more blankets????? How do you turn over
>>> in the bed??
>>
>> Honestly, I never turn in my sleep. I almost always wake up in the same
>> position in which I fell asleep. It can be a bit problematic when I
>> wake up and cannot feel my arm because I laid on it the wrong way all
>> night. The bonus is that it takes mere seconds to make my bed, haha.

>
> I thought only women and gays made their bed.

Who else would there be to hassle Sophia to make her bed? Mine is made
every morning... Especially when I use the pretty pink striped sheets,
haha. The bed is set with hospital corners, but I don't have to touch
that again until I wash the sheets.

I can be a bit anal at times. The stereotype about men leaving the
commode seat up does not ring true, here. When ex lived with me, it was
the other way around; I had to hassle her about leaving the lid up.
The lid should be left down.

[Michael Trew]

Exactly, it's all about a routine. I don't do well when my day isn't
structured. It's odd, you'd think that I would relax more on a day off,
but I'm always in a better head space when I have somewhere to be, and a
set time to go to work. If I'm home alone all day, I'm typically not
productive at all.

Anyway, a set routine starts with making the bed when I get up. A
cluttered bed just sets a bad tone. The room is a lot more pleasing
when things aren't in disarray.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 10/9/2023 2:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Oct 2023 10:07:11 -0400, Michael Trew
> > <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> >> On 10/8/2023 11:12 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >>>
> >>> THREE comforters and maybe more blankets????? How do you turn over
> >>> in the bed??
> >>
> >> Honestly, I never turn in my sleep. I almost always wake up in the same
> >> position in which I fell asleep. It can be a bit problematic when I
> >> wake up and cannot feel my arm because I laid on it the wrong way all
> >> night. The bonus is that it takes mere seconds to make my bed, haha.
> >
> > I thought only women and gays made their bed.
> Who else would there be to hassle Sophia to make her bed? Mine is made
> every morning... Especially when I use the pretty pink striped sheets,
> haha. The bed is set with hospital corners, but I don't have to touch
> that again until I wash the sheets.
>

So *you* have to teach your daughter how to be a woman?
She *does* have a mother. ;-)

>
> I can be a bit anal at times. The stereotype about men leaving the
> commode seat up does not ring true, here. When ex lived with me, it was
> the other way around; I had to hassle her about leaving the lid up.
> The lid should be left down.
>

I thought your "ex" was a woman. What was she doing
with the toilet seat up? Wait. Others here might rather
you not explain. You can email me if you wish. ;-) Oh,
wait. You said lid, not seat. Never mind.

--Bryan

[Bruce]

If you spend the day in your bedroom, I can understand that.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:04:41 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 10/9/2023 2:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I thought only women and gays made their bed.

I should have added soldiers with PTSD.

>Who else would there be to hassle Sophia to make her bed? Mine is made
>every morning... Especially when I use the pretty pink striped sheets,
>haha. The bed is set with hospital corners, but I don't have to touch
>that again until I wash the sheets.
>
>I can be a bit anal at times. The stereotype about men leaving the
>commode seat up does not ring true, here. When ex lived with me, it was
>the other way around; I had to hassle her about leaving the lid up.
>The lid should be left down.

That has a practical reason: so that the woman doesn't have to touch
the lid when she uses the toilet. I don't see the practical reason to
make the bed. I don't see the bed when I'm not in it.

[cshenk]

Bruce wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Oct 2023 10:07:11 -0400, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > On 10/8/2023 11:12 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> >> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:00:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew
> wrote:
> > > >
> >>> The highs for the next few days are in the mid 50's, which was a
> very >>> abrupt shift from mid-80's not even a week ago. It will get
> back up to >>> the high 60's for a bit, but the cold is setting in. I
> have my bed >>> dressed with three comforters over the sheets. You
> can bet that I'll be >>> adding a couple more blankets as we get into
> the colder season.
> > > >
> >> We're predicted to be in the 70's up to 80 or so over the week.
> But the >> nights are going to be nippy.

> > >
> >> THREE comforters and maybe more blankets????? How do you turn over
> >> in the bed??
> >
> > Honestly, I never turn in my sleep. I almost always wake up in the
> > same position in which I fell asleep. It can be a bit problematic
> > when I wake up and cannot feel my arm because I laid on it the
> > wrong way all night. The bonus is that it takes mere seconds to
> > make my bed, haha.
>

> I thought only women and gays made their bed.

Nope. Don always makes his bed. Me too. Old military habit.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:38:47 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> > Who else would there be to hassle Sophia to make her bed? Mine is made
> > every morning... Especially when I use the pretty pink striped sheets,
> > haha. The bed is set with hospital corners, but I don't have to touch
> > that again until I wash the sheets.
> >
> So *you* have to teach your daughter how to be a woman?
> She *does* have a mother. ;-)
> >

Just because a child has a mother doesn't mean that mother is into housework,
cleaning, or cooking. Some people have children who have never learned to hold
a knife and fork properly to cut meat.

[Ed P]

There is confusion of terms. Men put the seat up, women put the seat
down, both should put the lid down.

When you flush, there is some microscopic water droplets stirred up and
they will spray around the room. Lid stops that. Also keeps pets out
if you have any.

I have two toilets in the house. The one in the main bathroom always
has the seat up since it it only me here.There are also soft close
seats. You don't have to touch them to put them down. Just push it
with the lid and it will slowly go down to sit on.

[Bruce]

Is Bryan spreading toxic masculinity again?

[Cindy Hamilton]

In our house, everybody is expected to check to see that the seat is
in their preferred position before beginning. We don't care about
the lid. I'm sure every surface in our bathroom is covered in toilet
water.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-10-10 4:29 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> Just because a child has a mother doesn't mean that mother is into housework,
> cleaning, or cooking. Some people have children who have never learned to hold
> a knife and fork properly to cut meat.
>

Guy Fieri.

[Hank Rogers]

Those microscopic water droplets evaporate rapidly. Too quick
for them to settle on anything.

As for pets, I have stray cat I took in about 14 years ago. She
would not stick her head in a bowl (food or water) until a
couple of years ago. I had to toss her food on the floor, but
she didn't require much because she prefers mice, rats,
squirrels, and rabbits for sustenance. If not for the toilet,
she would have died of dehydration long ago. There are no
springs or creeks on this place.

> I have two toilets in the house.  The one in the main bathroom
> always has the seat up since it it only me here.There are also
> soft close seats.  You don't have to touch them to put them
> down.  Just push it with the lid and it will slowly go down to
> sit on.

I never had one of those fancy seats, but they sure sound nice.
Do they have automatic built in heating elements to warm your
ass in the winter? My wife dreads sitting on the pot when it's
really cold.

[Thomas]

Just keep it clean. My bathroom is my cleanest room.

[Dave Smith]

Some people prefer the seat to be left up. A raised toilet seat is a dry
toilet seat.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 17:07:56 -0400, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>There is confusion of terms. Men put the seat up, women put the seat
>down, both should put the lid down.

Yes, you're right. Lid and seat are two different things.

>When you flush, there is some microscopic water droplets stirred up and
>they will spray around the room. Lid stops that. Also keeps pets out
>if you have any.
>
>I have two toilets in the house. The one in the main bathroom always
>has the seat up since it it only me here.There are also soft close
>seats. You don't have to touch them to put them down. Just push it
>with the lid and it will slowly go down to sit on.

But now the main question for you, Ed: Do you have a seat warmer?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

True.

(Real name Ferry, then decided to go with Fieti, and finally settled on Fieri.  🙄)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 4:49:22 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:

>
> Ed P wrote:
> >
> > When you flush, there is some microscopic water droplets
> > stirred up and they will spray around the room. Lid stops
> > that. Also keeps pets out if you have any.
> >
> Those microscopic water droplets evaporate rapidly. Too quick
> for them to settle on anything.
>
> As for pets, I have stray cat I took in about 14 years ago. She
> would not stick her head in a bowl (food or water) until a
> couple of years ago. I had to toss her food on the floor, but
> she didn't require much because she prefers mice, rats,
> squirrels, and rabbits for sustenance. If not for the toilet,
> she would have died of dehydration long ago. There are no
> springs or creeks on this place.
>

You need to buy that lady a pet fountain.

> >
> > I have two toilets in the house. The one in the main bathroom
> > always has the seat up since it it only me here.There are also
> > soft close seats. You don't have to touch them to put them
> > down. Just push it with the lid and it will slowly go down to
> > sit on.
> >
> I never had one of those fancy seats, but they sure sound nice.
> Do they have automatic built in heating elements to warm your
> ass in the winter? My wife dreads sitting on the pot when it's
> really cold.
>

The Toto toilet comes to mind for a heated seat. It also has a built-in
bidet. Most likely some of the American manufacturers of indoor
privies also have these features.

[jmcquown]

The lid and the seat are not the same thing. You know this, right? I
left the seat up after cleaning the toilet and forgot to put it back
down. Later I didn't look before I went to sit but I knew immediately
I'd not put the seat down!

Jill

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-10-10, Hank Rogers wrote:

> I never had one of those fancy seats, but they sure sound nice.
> Do they have automatic built in heating elements to warm your
> ass in the winter?

The really expensive Japanese ones even have a 'rear view' camera.

[Hank Rogers]

Depends on your aim, officer dave. When you are staggering
drunk, sure, you are likely to piss all over the lid.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Does that mean you have dinner there?

[Hank Rogers]

Wasn't there a small pontiac car named something like that,
many years ago?

[Bruce]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 18:13:12 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Did you need help to get out? Was your mobile phone within reach?

[Hank Rogers]

Damn! Your majesty's ass was dunked in the toilet water.

I bet that was really embarrassing.

[Hank Rogers]

Asians, and especially japs seem particularly keen on that sort
of fecal porn.

[songbird]

Bruce wrote:
...

> Does that mean you have dinner there?

in one hole, out the other...

it all comes out in the end

or not.

then there is corn which is often just marking time
and position or rate of passage.


songbird

[songbird]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

...

> Just because a child has a mother doesn't mean that mother is into housework,
> cleaning, or cooking. Some people have children who have never learned to hold
> a knife and fork properly to cut meat.

damn these fetid meathooks!


songbird (out spots,
out! ... . .. ....

[songbird]

Ed P wrote:
...

> When you flush, there is some microscopic water droplets stirred up and
> they will spray around the room. Lid stops that. Also keeps pets out
> if you have any.

if you can smell it there are shit and/or piss molecules
in the air no matter what, all you are doing is cutting
down on how much.

if you sit there and read, well, it's not something i
ever got into. i'm only in there to do my business and
get out.


songbird

[Thomas]

I do not have dinner there. I have dinner in my scummy kitchen.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-10-10, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Depends on your aim, officer dave.
> When you are staggering drunk, sure,
> you are likely to piss all over the lid.

I do not want this thread to degenerate, but
what is the best course of action when the end
is a bit gummed-up from non-urinational duty
and instead of one, you end up with two streams?

Assume that they are divergent enough so only
one can end up anywhere within the bowl.

Superman might be able cut the flow, but for
normal people such as ourselves, the best
manouver is to simultaneously move the whole
apparatus forward and down to shorten the
stream length(s).

This is slightly problematic because the
mass centre of the entire body moves to
directly over the bowl requiring one of:

(1) Freeing up one hand to place onto the
tank to form a tripod with the two feet.

(2) Shuffling the feet simultaneously to
each side of the bowl.

If you're lucky(?), you can always try
a quarter-turn of the end to take advantage
of the bowl's oval vs. circular shape,
but remember that from the point of view
of the penis, the bowl edge looks circular
due to the geometry.

[Hank Rogers]

Saw this on a bathroom wall once:
Some come here to sit and think. I came to shit and stink.

[Dave Smith]

Good analysis of the split streamers.

[Bering Sea Bar & Brig@MarthaStewart.GoodThing]

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> How's the weather in your area this morning and today? Presently it's
> 66°F (19°C) and I'm occasionally hearing my wind chimes.
>
> It was 45°F (7.22°C) when I went to bed last night and like the night
> before I spread and oversized afghan over my bed. I always keep a
> blanket on the bed year-round but I knew it would not be warm enough.
> This morning I drug out the lightweight quilt I also use in the fall and
> early spring. That should have went on the bed when I changed the
> sheets Saturday, but I'm ready for tonight now.  🥶

Still hitting 90f in Vegas. Dry heat, booger weather.

[Desmond Besem]

Ketamine nasal spray.
https://mypsychedelicmedicine.com/product/ketamine-nasal-spray/

[Cindy Hamilton]

I used to have a little trouble sometimes after my husband returned
from a long business trip. Retraining didn't take long at all, and
it usually happened in the middle of the night.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-10-10, Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 4:47:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2023-10-10 4:29 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just because a child has a mother doesn't mean that mother is into housework,
>>>> cleaning, or cooking. Some people have children who have never learned to hold
>>>> a knife and fork properly to cut meat.
>>>>
>>> Guy Fieri.
>>>
>> True.
>>

>> (Real name Ferry, then decided to go with Fieti, and finally settled on Fieri.  🙄)

>>
>
> Wasn't there a small pontiac car named something like that,
> many years ago?

Fiero.

I had the singular pleasure of watching one of those crash through
the front and side yards of a house I was renting. The young lady
thought she'd got off scot-free, not realizing she'd torn out
the undercarriage on some decorative rocks the landlord had used
to line the driveway. Her face was a picture when the tow-truck
driver explained it to her.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Sleepless in Ann Arbor: toilet training in the middle of the night.

[Michael Trew]

On 10/10/2023 12:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 10/9/2023 2:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought only women and gays made their bed.

>> Who else would there be to hassle Sophia to make her bed? Mine is made
>> every morning... Especially when I use the pretty pink striped sheets,
>> haha. The bed is set with hospital corners, but I don't have to touch
>> that again until I wash the sheets.
>>

> So *you* have to teach your daughter how to be a woman?
> She *does* have a mother. ;-)

I guess I know how to pick them. I'll just leave it at that.

>> I can be a bit anal at times. The stereotype about men leaving the
>> commode seat up does not ring true, here. When ex lived with me, it was
>> the other way around; I had to hassle her about leaving the lid up.
>> The lid should be left down.
>>

> I thought your "ex" was a woman. What was she doing
> with the toilet seat up? Wait. Others here might rather
> you not explain. You can email me if you wish. ;-) Oh,
> wait. You said lid, not seat. Never mind.

LOL

Things could fall in, pets, etc. Leaving the *lid* up is a pet peeve of
mine.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Something falling into the toilet is rarely a big deal. Fish it out
and move on.

That said, when I've got the vanity top covered in post-shower items
(toothbrush, moisturizer, etc.) I definitely make sure the lid is
closed.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-10-11, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Something falling into the toilet is
> rarely a big deal. Fish it out and move on.

I know people who have permanently
damaged their cell phone(s) in a toilet.

[Dave Smith]

I have to chuckle thinking back to a phone call from my elderly
neighbour a on Thanksgiving weekend a few years back. She was
desperately in need of a plumber because she had flushed her dentures
down her toilet. The neighbour between us was a handyman. As I was
listening to her tale of woe I thought that she was telling the wrong
person. I knew I would not be able to keep that secret. She moved years
ago and died a couple years ago. She will remain anonymous but I am free
to talk about it.

If it were me I would probably just get new dentures. There is not
enough bleach to clean them enough to put in my mouth.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:33:20 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-10-11 6:25 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On 2023-10-11, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Something falling into the toilet is
>>> rarely a big deal. Fish it out and move on.
>>
>> I know people who have permanently
>> damaged their cell phone(s) in a toilet.
>>
>
>I have to chuckle thinking back to a phone call from my elderly
>neighbour a on Thanksgiving weekend a few years back.

Chuckle away, dude...

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-10-11 6:25 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:

I know that cell phones can do all sorts of things, but I didn't think
they were ever intended to be used as toilet paper.

[Ed P]

It is a very common occurrence.

https://www.cnet.com/culture/study-19-percent-of-people-drop-phones-down-toilet/

[Dave Smith]

I don't doubt it. I know lots of people who have cell phones, but none
of them has every dropped their phone into the toilet. Perhaps it would
be more accurate to say that none have them have admitted dropping their
phone into the toilet. It is also interesting to note that the article
says "nearly 1 in 5 people accidentally drop their phones" not that they
have accidentally done it. I can't imagine making that mistake twice.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm one of them. Stupid small pockets in girl pants.

It happened at work, where there are no lids, and while I was standing
up from a seated posture, so even if there had been a lid, it couldn't
have been closed. An edge case to be sure.

I was able to buy a used replacement on Amazon, stick the old SIM
card in it, and it was as good as ever.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Michael Trew]

I've known people who do the same, but I cannot say that I've
experienced the same myself. For the life of me, I cannot understand
why any type of phone would ever need to be in a bathroom.

[Ed P]

Home or work?
HOME
If you finished the Reader's Digest, you need something to read.
WORK
It may be the only quiet private place to get away for a few minutes.

At work, I know of it happening twice.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I don't take my phone out of my pocket when I go to the bathroom.
Neither do I take my wallet out of my pocket. Nor my car keys,
if they happen to be there. Do you empty your pockets when you
go to the bathroom?

There are probably thousands of bathroom selfies on the internet.
Not that I understand why, mind you.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

I guess folks just like to talk while they shit :)

[GM]

And some like to *shit* while they *talk*... Kuthe for example...

--
GM

[Michael Trew]

On 10/13/2023 10:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-10-13, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> For the life of me, I cannot understand
>> why any type of phone would ever need to be in a bathroom.
>
> I don't take my phone out of my pocket when I go to the bathroom.
> Neither do I take my wallet out of my pocket. Nor my car keys,
> if they happen to be there. Do you empty your pockets when you
> go to the bathroom?

If I'm home, my mobile phone, keys, and wallet are stationary put away
in a draw near my back door. It makes it easy to remember them, and not
misplace them. I didn't really consider public rest rooms.

> There are probably thousands of bathroom selfies on the internet.
> Not that I understand why, mind you.

That's bizarre. The behavior I was hinting at would be people reading
or browsing the web on a mobile phone, while in the bathroom. Can it
not stay in your pocket while you do your business? The same for
bathroom reading, it's all unsanitary.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-10-14, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 10/13/2023 10:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-10-13, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> For the life of me, I cannot understand
>>> why any type of phone would ever need to be in a bathroom.
>>
>> I don't take my phone out of my pocket when I go to the bathroom.
>> Neither do I take my wallet out of my pocket. Nor my car keys,
>> if they happen to be there. Do you empty your pockets when you
>> go to the bathroom?
>
> If I'm home, my mobile phone, keys, and wallet are stationary put away
> in a draw near my back door. It makes it easy to remember them, and not
> misplace them. I didn't really consider public rest rooms.

I keep my phone in my pocket while at home, since I don't have a
landline. Saves having to find where I left it when I want to use
it. How else would I know that everybody is dying to sell me Medicare
supplemental insurance? Or, less facetiously, that my mother has
fallen again and I need to take some action.

>> There are probably thousands of bathroom selfies on the internet.
>> Not that I understand why, mind you.
>
> That's bizarre. The behavior I was hinting at would be people reading
> or browsing the web on a mobile phone, while in the bathroom. Can it
> not stay in your pocket while you do your business? The same for
> bathroom reading, it's all unsanitary.

I certainly would like my phone to stay in my pocket. Because women's
pants are not universally well designed, it sometimes falls out of
the pocket.

Everything is unsanitary, Michael. Sometimes I eat things I've dropped
on the kitchen floor.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

The modern woman keeps their phone in their right butt pocket. My guess is that they'll pull their phone out before sitting on the john. My guess is that many modern women will read their messages while they're sitting down. Why not? They're going to have it in their hands anyway. Of course, I could be wrong.

[Michael Trew]

On 10/14/2023 4:46 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-10-14, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 10/13/2023 10:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-10-13, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> If I'm home, my mobile phone, keys, and wallet are stationary put away
>> in a draw near my back door.
>

> I keep my phone in my pocket while at home, since I don't have a
> landline. Saves having to find where I left it when I want to use
> it. How else would I know that everybody is dying to sell me Medicare
> supplemental insurance? Or, less facetiously, that my mother has
> fallen again and I need to take some action.

That's true. People who know me know that they are probably out of luck
if they call my cell. I'll either ignore it, or it's off. If I'm home,
I can always hear the bell ringer. It still catches me off guard, and
since I'm jumpy, I might hop if it rings while I'm in the kitchen.

>> The behavior I was hinting at would be people reading
>> or browsing the web on a mobile phone, while in the bathroom.
>

> I certainly would like my phone to stay in my pocket. Because women's
> pants are not universally well designed, it sometimes falls out of
> the pocket.

I guess that you're just expected to have a purse. ;) I've heard
numerous complains on women's pants pockets (or lack there of) in the past.

> Everything is unsanitary, Michael. Sometimes I eat things I've dropped
> on the kitchen floor.

On occasion, I do the same. I'd hope that there isn't potential fecal
matter in the kitchen. Regardless of how clean the bathroom is, I
surely wouldn't eat in there.

...Or place a phone call, for that matter. I'm blown away by men who
make calls in public restrooms. Perhaps it's just me, but that seems to
be in very poor taste.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I wear my shoes in the house. I have an immune system for a reason.

> Regardless of how clean the bathroom is, I
> surely wouldn't eat in there.

> ...Or place a phone call, for that matter. I'm blown away by men who
> make calls in public restrooms. Perhaps it's just me, but that seems to
> be in very poor taste.

Yeah, that's creepy. Aren't men supposed to maintain silence in
public restrooms? It's women who go to the john in gaggles and talk.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I keep my phone in my pocket while at home, since I don't have a
> landline. Saves having to find where I left it when I want to use
> it. How else would I know that everybody is dying to sell me Medicare
> supplemental insurance? Or, less facetiously, that my mother has
> fallen again and I need to take some action.

As you probably remember, I finally switched from landline to smart
phone one year ago. While at home, I keep it right on the desk where my
landline used to stay. Never gets misplaced that way.

I'm still amazed at the savings.
Landline offered nothing but unlimited local calls - $46.00 per month
Smartphone offers everything imaginable - $20.91 per month

[Ed P]

I wear socks in the house. Shoes come off shorty after I come in.

>
>> Regardless of how clean the bathroom is, I
>> surely wouldn't eat in there.
>
>> ...Or place a phone call, for that matter. I'm blown away by men who
>> make calls in public restrooms. Perhaps it's just me, but that seems to
>> be in very poor taste.
>
> Yeah, that's creepy. Aren't men supposed to maintain silence in
> public restrooms? It's women who go to the john in gaggles and talk.
>

Wow, I didn't know that. From now on I'm exercising my equal rights and
using the ladies room. Sounds like fun.