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U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 9, 2019, 7:13:19 PM6/9/19
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Terry Coombs

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Jun 9, 2019, 7:24:42 PM6/9/19
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  First off , y'all please drop the "e" from my last name . We left
that behind when we split from Merry Olde in the 60's - 1860's that is .
Now , about the plastic . The article postulated they're using it for a
barrier , maybe from airborne toxins ? This doesn't directly apply to
Apis Mellifera , the common honeybee , but it is important in that it
involves a native pollinator . A situation that bears watching .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

Bruce

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Jun 9, 2019, 7:37:35 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:25:17 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
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There are plastic particles in honey these days. That's how far it has
entered into the environment. It also explains some people's looks.

Terry Coombs

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Jun 9, 2019, 7:50:26 PM6/9/19
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jmcquown

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Jun 9, 2019, 7:57:11 PM6/9/19
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Interesting! It sounds to me like nature (in this case, bees) adapting
to the mess humans have made of this world.

"Both studies noted that more research needs to be done before
scientists can outline the potential impact plastic might have on bees,
but the nest building shows that bees are highly adaptive to changing
environments. In both places, leaves were readily available as a
building material."

So, they had natural materials but chose the plastic. How do they break
it down into usuable form for a hive?

“It would demonstrate the adaptive flexibility that certain species of
bees would have in the face of changes in environmental conditions”.

"Adaptive flexibility". Definitely. Sounds to me like they're
recycling. Only further study and time will tell about the hives. Not
to sound flip, but it also sounds like the bees are trying to build a
better condo. :D

Jill

U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:10:45 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:25:17 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
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I had it the way you want and then I checked a previous message to
make sure that I had the spelling correct. So sorry..
Janet US

U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:11:46 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:51:08 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>On 6/9/2019 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:25:17 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2019 6:13 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> Wild bees are building their homes from plastic—and scientists aren’t
>>>> sure why
>>>>
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/wild-bees-are-building-their-homes-from-plastic-and-scientists-aren-t-sure-why/ar-AACrkTL?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=spartandhp
>>>   First off , y'all please drop the "e" from my last name . We left
>>> that behind when we split from Merry Olde in the 60's - 1860's that is .
>>> Now , about the plastic . The article postulated they're using it for a
>>> barrier , maybe from airborne toxins ? This doesn't directly apply to
>>> Apis Mellifera , the common honeybee , but it is important in that it
>>> involves a native pollinator . A situation that bears watching .
>> There are plastic particles in honey these days. That's how far it has
>> entered into the environment. It also explains some people's looks.
>
>   Here's a cite from a study that disagrees
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318068276_Lack_of_evidence_for_microplastic_contamination_in_honey

again, sorry. Just thought you might be interested. Will not post
about bees again

U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:16:08 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 19:57:02 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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my squirrels tear anything plastic they can get their little teeth on
and haul it away for nest building. You can easily watch them running
through the trees with their prize. In fact, I cover my garden
surface with a fabric to prevent weeds. Those little rodents tore off
a piece about 15 inches by 6 or 7 feet (with the help of winter wind)
That piece of fabric now resides in the top of my neighbor's tree. It
is carefully wound around a large squirrel nest.
Janet US

Bruce

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:16:38 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:51:08 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>On 6/9/2019 6:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 18:25:17 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2019 6:13 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> Wild bees are building their homes from plastic—and scientists aren’t
>>>> sure why
>>>>
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/wild-bees-are-building-their-homes-from-plastic-and-scientists-aren-t-sure-why/ar-AACrkTL?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=spartandhp
>>>   First off , y'all please drop the "e" from my last name . We left
>>> that behind when we split from Merry Olde in the 60's - 1860's that is .
>>> Now , about the plastic . The article postulated they're using it for a
>>> barrier , maybe from airborne toxins ? This doesn't directly apply to
>>> Apis Mellifera , the common honeybee , but it is important in that it
>>> involves a native pollinator . A situation that bears watching .
>> There are plastic particles in honey these days. That's how far it has
>> entered into the environment. It also explains some people's looks.
>
>   Here's a cite from a study that disagrees
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318068276_Lack_of_evidence_for_microplastic_contamination_in_honey

When one researcher says yes, another one will say no. They both get
paid for their work.

jmcquown

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:18:07 PM6/9/19
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Misread attributions, Janet! *Bruce* started talking about plastic
particles in honey. Trying to start another BS distraction.
Terry cited a study that disagrees with him.

Jill

Terry Coombs

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:39:26 PM6/9/19
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  Oh please don't do that . I didn't mean to discourage anyone from
sharing information . That link was directed at Bwoos's comment about
microparticles of plastic in honey .

Terry Coombs

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:41:33 PM6/9/19
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  Not a problem . Ms O spelled it that way a few posts back . And I
probably have relatives over there that still spell it that way .

Bruce

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:42:44 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 20:18:03 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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So what's the problem?

Bruce

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:44:36 PM6/9/19
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 18:10:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
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He made a big deal of absolutely nothing. I guess he had a bee in his
bonnet.

Terry Coombs

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:46:04 PM6/9/19
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  Uh Jill , the bees cited aren't honey bees , they're a solitary
species that does not build a hive . Honey bees , Apis Mellifera , build
their comb from wax flakes exuded from their little bodies . They may
recycle some wax in the hive , but they most definitely do not utilize
plastic particles .

graham

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Jun 9, 2019, 8:56:50 PM6/9/19
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Terry, a pedantic point but the specific name never starts with an upper
case letter in the Linnaean binomial system. Therefore, Apis mellifera.

Bruce

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Jun 9, 2019, 9:02:58 PM6/9/19
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And it's not Coombes, but Coombs, although you'd expect Comb.

Ophelia

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Jun 10, 2019, 3:43:33 AM6/10/19
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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Fascinating stuff:)) Thanks!

Ophelia

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Jun 10, 2019, 3:43:33 AM6/10/19
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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Oh please do!


Ophelia

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Jun 10, 2019, 3:45:52 AM6/10/19
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"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qdk8vq$52j$2...@dont-email.me...
Snag

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Ooops sorry:(


Leonard Blaisdell

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Jun 10, 2019, 3:48:56 AM6/10/19
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In article <8a8rfe5toabiir07i...@4ax.com>, Bruce
<br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> When one researcher says yes, another one will say no. They both get
> paid for their work.

And one should keep that in mind while they're building their
philosophy.

[ObFood] Ham hocks and beans "again". I've sold my wife on precooked
carrots mixed in. She is cutting back on carbs so no crunchy French
bread to sop up the juice.
Tomorrow, we're having sirloin steak, microwaved broccoli and, Oh...I
don't know, small portions of mashed potatoes?

leo

Ophelia

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Jun 10, 2019, 4:29:38 AM6/10/19
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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LOL waste not, want not <g>


Gary

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Jun 10, 2019, 6:27:01 AM6/10/19
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"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> my squirrels tear anything plastic they can get their little teeth on
> and haul it away for nest building. You can easily watch them running
> through the trees with their prize. In fact, I cover my garden
> surface with a fabric to prevent weeds. Those little rodents tore off
> a piece about 15 inches by 6 or 7 feet (with the help of winter wind)
> That piece of fabric now resides in the top of my neighbor's tree. It
> is carefully wound around a large squirrel nest.

Squirrels rule. They used your plastic to eliminate the wind
chill in their nest on cold days. Next best thing to a wood
stove. :-D

Gary

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Jun 10, 2019, 6:33:52 AM6/10/19
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Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > I had it the way you want and then I checked a previous message to
> > make sure that I had the spelling correct. So sorry..
> > Janet US
>
> Â Not a problem . Ms O spelled it that way a few posts back . And I
> probably have relatives over there that still spell it that way .

Speaking about spelling here. I noticed an interesting thing:
You're not Terry Coombes but
you are Terry Coombs.

Drop one "o" from your real name and you become
Terry Combs.

Just so happens that you are also the RFC bee keeper and deal
with honeyCOMBS.

Coincidence? I think not. You were destined to raise and exploit
bees. You *ARE* stealing the food they make for themselves, ya
know. :)

dsi1

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Jun 10, 2019, 6:44:44 AM6/10/19
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Yes, I have heard about this from the wonderful documentary "Bee Movie."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUVXsmlifKM

Terry Coombs

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Jun 10, 2019, 7:51:25 AM6/10/19
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Yeah , that's the Toxic Entitled White Male Masculinity in me expressing
itself . Look at them as sharecroppers ... they aren't slaves , they can
leave any time they wish - and some of them have , taking their queen
with them ! The funny thing is that those escapees have begun
repopulating this area with bees . Many people near us have commented on
how nice it is to see bees here again . There haven't been any for many
years - about the time varroa mites arrived in this area the "native"
(actually technically feral) bees disappeared . And ya know what ? There
has been an exponential increase in wild flowers in the vicinity since
we brought bees in . That benefits many species of both insect and small
animal life . I think taking a little honey is only fair compensation
for the improvements to the ecology of our little micro-climate .

Gary

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Jun 10, 2019, 8:02:27 AM6/10/19
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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
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> [ObFood] Ham hocks and beans "again". I've sold my wife... <snip>

Hindsight: Wish I would have thought of that before
"the dish ran away with the spoon." ;)
More cost-effective than an expensive divorce.


> Tomorrow, we're having sirloin steak, microwaved broccoli and, Oh...I
> don't know, small portions of mashed potatoes?

Favorite steak dinner here with me and daughter was:
- Medium rare steak
- salty fries (the thin 'shoestring' kind)
- fresh pile of corn, cut off cob and with a bit of butter.
- mushrooms and onion briefly cooked in the deglazed
pan of steak juice. Deglazed with water and butter,
then cooked down to eliminate most of the water.

I also bought a pound of fresh ground sirloin steak once
at Fresh Market. Best burgers I ever made.

U.S. Janet B.

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Jun 10, 2019, 10:03:49 AM6/10/19
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:49:01 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news:j38rfe9j152ad5eor...@4ax.com...
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>
>my squirrels tear anything plastic they can get their little teeth on
>and haul it away for nest building. You can easily watch them running
>through the trees with their prize. In fact, I cover my garden
>surface with a fabric to prevent weeds. Those little rodents tore off
>a piece about 15 inches by 6 or 7 feet (with the help of winter wind)
>That piece of fabric now resides in the top of my neighbor's tree. It
>is carefully wound around a large squirrel nest.
>Janet US
>
>===
>
> LOL waste not, want not <g>
>
sounds good on paper except when the plastic is containing 50 pounds
of potting soil or fertilizer. :(
Janet US

jmcquown

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Jun 12, 2019, 9:50:59 AM6/12/19
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I had a covered swing on the patio at my apartment in TN. The shade
cover was made of heavy canvas. The squirrels tore it up but good!

Jill

Hank Rogers

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Jun 12, 2019, 11:27:01 PM6/12/19
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/9/2019 8:16 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 19:57:02 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2019 7:13 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wild bees are building their homes from plastic—and scientists
>>>> aren’t
>>>> sure why
>>>>
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/wild-bees-are-building-their-homes-from-plastic-and-scientists-aren-t-sure-why/ar-AACrkTL?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=spartandhp
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Interesting!  It sounds to me like nature (in this case, bees)
>>> adapting
>>> to the mess humans have made of this world.
>>>
>>> "Both studies noted that more research needs to be done before
>>> scientists can outline the potential impact plastic might have on
>>> bees,
>>> but the nest building shows that bees are highly adaptive to
>>> changing
>>> environments. In both places, leaves were readily available as a
>>> building material."
>>>
>>> So, they had natural materials but chose the plastic.  How do
>>> they break
>>> it down into usuable form for a hive?
>>>
>>> “It would demonstrate the adaptive flexibility that certain
>>> species of
>>> bees would have in the face of changes in environmental
>>> conditions†.
>>>
>>> "Adaptive flexibility".  Definitely.  Sounds to me like they're
>>> recycling.  Only further study and time will tell about the
>>> hives.  Not
>>> to sound flip, but it also sounds like the bees are trying to
>>> build a
>>> better condo. :D
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> my squirrels tear anything plastic they can get their little teeth on
>> and haul it away for nest building.  You can easily watch them
>> running
>> through the trees with their prize.  In fact, I cover my garden
>> surface with a fabric to prevent weeds.  Those little rodents tore
>> off
>> a piece about 15 inches by 6 or 7 feet (with the help of winter wind)
>> That piece of fabric now resides in the top of my neighbor's
>> tree.  It
>> is carefully wound around a large squirrel nest.
>> Janet US
>>
> I had a covered swing on the patio at my apartment in TN.  The shade
> cover was made of heavy canvas.  The squirrels tore it up but good!
>
> Jill

Yes, they are rodents, just like mice, rats, gophers, etc.

They can chew damn near everything up. Only a shotgun loaded with
size 6 shells can fix them permanently.

Terry Coombs

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Jun 13, 2019, 12:21:47 AM6/13/19
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  Oh I don't know about that . A .22 short hollow point out of a scoped
single shot rifle seems to do a pretty good job .

Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 2:35:32 AM6/13/19
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:21:44 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
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Oh no, couch potatoes exchange gun stories.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Jun 13, 2019, 3:47:23 AM6/13/19
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In article <qdsj0o$3d2$1...@dont-email.me>, Terry Coombs
There's a lot of overkill going on here. Be sporting and use a .22
multi pump pellet gun. That'll get 'em!

leo

Terry Coombs

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Jun 13, 2019, 8:03:37 AM6/13/19
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  Ah , but these stories are true , unlike most of your spew . I've
noticed , we criticize most in others that which we dislike the most
about ourselves ...

Terry Coombs

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Jun 13, 2019, 8:07:54 AM6/13/19
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  Gee , if only I had one ! Though I'm not sure they're capable of the
ranges I usually shoot small furry critters - disclaimer : Those small
animals , and snakes too , are safe as long as they stay out of my
garden (SFM's) and at a reasonable distance from the house and areas
close to it (snakes) . A copperhead in the flowerbeds is NOT a good
thing when I go out to pull weeds .

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jun 13, 2019, 10:04:33 AM6/13/19
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On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 7:07:54 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> A copperhead in the flowerbeds is NOT a good
> thing when I go out to pull weeds .
>
Sh-h-h-h-h-h-udder.

Hank Rogers

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Jun 13, 2019, 2:26:30 PM6/13/19
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Druce, yoose should join in and tell some of yoose BB gun stories!


Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 3:49:59 PM6/13/19
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:03:29 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>On 6/13/2019 1:35 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:21:44 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/12/2019 10:26 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> I had a covered swing on the patio at my apartment in TN.  The shade
>>>>> cover was made of heavy canvas.  The squirrels tore it up but good!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> Yes, they are rodents, just like mice, rats, gophers, etc.
>>>>
>>>> They can chew damn near everything up. Only a shotgun loaded with size
>>>> 6 shells can fix them permanently.
>>>   Oh I don't know about that . A .22 short hollow point out of a scoped
>>> single shot rifle seems to do a pretty good job .
>> Oh no, couch potatoes exchange gun stories.
>
>   Ah , but these stories are true , unlike most of your spew . I've
>noticed , we criticize most in others that which we dislike the most
>about ourselves ...

Whether that's true or not doesn't matter. Just the fact that you're
trying to notice things is commendable!

Hank Rogers

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Jun 13, 2019, 7:50:04 PM6/13/19
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Don't believe him Druce ... he's lying to yoose.


Bruce

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Jun 13, 2019, 7:54:07 PM6/13/19
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:49:58 -0500, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.org>
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That's ok, Frank.
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