I didn't have to cook dinner tonight

[Ed Pawlowski]

My granddaughter wants to learn how to grill more so I let her make
dinner tonight.

Shrimp and scallops on skewers
sliced fresh pineapple
small yellow potatoes

She made a butter, lemon, garlic baste and got the skewers ready. First
on the grill was the pineapple, then the potatoes.

When they were about done, the shrimp and scallops were lightly brushed
with oil and put on the grill. Only a couple of minutes, then turned
and basted. Another few minutes they were done and the other side basted.

Accompanied by some chardonnay, it was a good meal.

[Julie Bove]

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I'm going to make a calzone. I did more research and the name means (pant
leg) which is how they were originally shaped. Mine will be that shape.
Cheese and onion with a few small, cut up tomatoes mixed in, just to use
them up. Also basil. Olive oil on top.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I can bet there were no left overs!

[Ed Pawlowski]

Two slices of pineapple. We made extra since the grill was hot anyway.

[Bruce]

Duly noted that all the chardonnay was gone.

[jmcquown]

On 7/11/2020 9:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> My granddaughter wants to learn how to grill more so I let her make
> dinner tonight.
>
> Shrimp and scallops on skewers
> sliced fresh pineapple
> small yellow potatoes
>
> She made a butter, lemon, garlic baste and got the skewers ready.  First
> on the grill was the pineapple, then the potatoes.
>

Seems like the potatoes should have gone on first but hey, I wasn't there.

> When they were about done, the shrimp and scallops were lightly brushed
> with oil and put on the grill.  Only a couple of minutes, then turned
> and basted.  Another few minutes they were done and the other side basted.
>
> Accompanied by some chardonnay, it was a good meal.

Sounds wonderful! I think it's fantastic your granddaughter wants to
learn how to cook. Sounds like she's been doing a good job. She's
learning a skill for life, too. Learning hey, she can do much better
than something picked up at a drive-thru. :)

Jill

[Ed Pawlowski]

She likes to cook and is working in the bakery at Publix. She likes
good food too. She bought the lobster tails last week.

[jmcquown]

Hope you don't mind my asking but how old is she, Ed? It sure sounds
like she's doing her darndest to take care of you and learn to cook on
the grill. Yeah, lobster tails last week and now shrimp and scallops on
skewers. Thing about those skewers, if they're bamboo or wooden skewers
they need to be soaked well in water so they don't catch fire. Not
saying hers did, just a general suggestion.

Jill

[Sqwertz]

I seem to remember you're not a fan of Huy Fong Sriracha, but
brushing pineapple with some of that a couple hours before grilling
and left to marinate is the bomb. And since pineapple is sweet,
maybe the sweetness in the sriracha won't turn you off.

-sw

[dsi1]

My daughter didn't cook anything but I told her to get some rib steaks. She got chuck steaks and tri-tips instead. That was a wise choice. They were excellent. I fried up the tri-tips with some teriyaki. I still had to cook but this arrangement might be better.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/gpDACAe3RUOg9aqbB6VPAg.5M8c7j4Pxo86l2OR6pPPVI

[Gary]

No doubt. ;-D

[Ed Pawlowski]

She's 25. The skewers were soaked a bit as I saw that while looking for
some ideas on how to make them. They were blackened on the end though.
Next time longer.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I can take it in moderation. Sounds like a nide additive thouh,

[Sheldon Martin]

Those wooden-bamboo skewers are not intended to last forever, with use
they keep getting shorter, but they are very inexpensive.

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

I think Chablis is from the Chardonnay grape. The Chardonnay grape makes both red and white wine.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Chablis is but it is a white grape so you won't see a red wine. Chablis
is usually aged in stainless steel, chardonnay is often oaked. I like
it as oak give a hint of vanilla flavor.

[Sqwertz]

> She's 25. The skewers were soaked a bit as I saw that while looking for
> some ideas on how to make them. They were blackened on the end though.
> Next time longer.

Those bamboo skewers really don't absorb any water. I've let them
soak for 16 hours and they still burn. I suppose it matter how
"fresh" they are, too but they don't exactly have a freshness date
on them. Mine are at least 12.... 15 years old.


-sw

[Sqwertz]

Say huh? They're disposable. You don't reuse them except maybe for
picking teeth.

-sw

[Dave Smith]

I have tried soaking them for hours and hours. I have been known to
resort to laying a strip of aluminum foil on the grill under the
protruding ends to shield them from the heat. I usually just use the
metal skewers.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Exactly. That's the main reason to favor them over steel skewers: you
don't have to spend time and effort cleaning them.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Those bamboo skewers really don't absorb any water. I've let them
> soak for 16 hours and they still burn. I suppose it matter how
> "fresh" they are, too but they don't exactly have a freshness date
> on them. Mine are at least 12.... 15 years old.

I only used them once then tossed out

[Sheldon Martin]

The aluminum foil costs more than bamboo scewers. You can buy bamboo
skewers at the dollar store for cheap. It's easier to use lower heat.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-13 11:42 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 08:45:29 -0400, Dave Smith

>>

>> I have tried soaking them for hours and hours. I have been known to
>> resort to laying a strip of aluminum foil on the grill under the
>> protruding ends to shield them from the heat.
>
> The aluminum foil costs more than bamboo scewers. You can buy bamboo
> skewers at the dollar store for cheap. It's easier to use lower heat.
>

I am talking a thin strip of foil, just enough to shield the protruding
ends of the skewers.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye has a shit fit about even 1 square inch of evil aluminum foil.

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:06:04 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:34:13 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Those wooden-bamboo skewers are not intended to last forever, with use
>>> they keep getting shorter, but they are very inexpensive.
>>
>> Say huh? They're disposable. You don't reuse them except maybe for
>> picking teeth.
>

> Exactly. That's the main reason to favor them over steel skewers: you
> don't have to spend time and effort cleaning them.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

But metal ones don't burn and also transmit heat into the center of
the food promoting more even cooking.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

I use mine mostly for testing doneness of baked goods and lighting
the hot water heater. Also good for cutting hassleback potatoes or
anything else that needs to be fanned - they keep the knife from
cutting all the way through to the board when you set them on the
sides of the food.

-sw

[Dave Smith]

And cleaning is never a problem. Stick them in soapy water and wipe them
down.

[cshenk]

Not everyone thinks 'disposable' is best for the world. Reuse ethics
are common.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I generally don't want that heat transfer. I want the outside
to be beautifully browned while the inside is still juicy.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Perhaps I'm using them wrong. I always have to scour them clean.

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

Wipe them with a bit of oil before sticking the meat on.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I do that.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

As particular as you are about cleanliness, I'm surprised you re-use
wooden skewers.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

For the same reason I reuse wooden spoons, wooden cutting bourds,
wooden bowls, and many other wooden kitchen implements. There's
nothing unsanitary about reusing wooden skewers after they're
washed... if you think wooden skewers are unsanitary after using and
washing WTF would you eat the food you cooked on those skewers?
I don't use skewers, I grill marinated food in a french fry basket...
very easy to hand wash or machine wash. I wash all my cookware, I
don't toss a pot into the trash just because I cooked soup in it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Because there's no food stuck to them before use.

> I don't use skewers, I grill marinated food in a french fry basket...
> very easy to hand wash or machine wash.

So you admit you don't really know anything about using wooden skewers.

> I wash all my cookware, I
> don't toss a pot into the trash just because I cooked soup in it.

Of course not. I don't use any wooden implements in my kitchen. If it
won't go in the dishwasher, I don't want it.

Except, of course, for sharp knives and anything that's just too large
to fit in the dishwasher.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 10:03:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

There's no food stuck to wooden skewers after they're washed.... same
as after any other wooden kitchen implements are washed..

>> I don't use skewers, I grill marinated food in a french fry basket...
>> very easy to hand wash or machine wash.
>
>So you admit you don't really know anything about using wooden skewers.

I've used wooden skewers more times than I can count, only I've
discovered that sauted in deep fry baskets does a much better job.

>> I wash all my cookware, I
>> don't toss a pot into the trash just because I cooked soup in it.
>
>Of course not. I don't use any wooden implements in my kitchen.
> If it won't go in the dishwasher, I don't want it.

>Cindy Hamilton

Then you don't cook.

I wash most everything by hand, immediately after I use it... I don't
use my dishwasher as the town dump. I hand wash plastic containers
but then put a bunch through the dishwasher to remove the stubborn oil
film that adheres to plastic. I also put my stove grates and drip
pans through the dishwasher. I don't remember ever using the
dishwasher to wash dishes, glassware, cookware, or bakeware... I do it
all by hand immediately after use.

[Hank Rogers]

Yoose window is for that Popeye.

[Cindy Hamilton]

How nice for you.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 7/15/2020 2:12 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 10:03:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

>> Of course not. I don't use any wooden implements in my kitchen.
>> If it won't go in the dishwasher, I don't want it.
>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Then you don't cook.
>
> I wash most everything by hand, immediately after I use it... I don't
> use my dishwasher as the town dump. I hand wash plastic containers
> but then put a bunch through the dishwasher to remove the stubborn oil
> film that adheres to plastic. I also put my stove grates and drip
> pans through the dishwasher. I don't remember ever using the
> dishwasher to wash dishes, glassware, cookware, or bakeware... I do it
> all by hand immediately after use.
>

The machine gets that stuff sparkling clean and sanitized. Saves energy
too. I think it is a factor in preventing colds and the like as
everything is so well cleaned with strong detergent and high temperatures.

I run it every couple of days. Takes less than 5 minutes to empty

[Bruce]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 14:12:29 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>I wash most everything by hand, immediately after I use it... I don't
>use my dishwasher as the town dump. I hand wash plastic containers
>but then put a bunch through the dishwasher to remove the stubborn oil
>film that adheres to plastic. I also put my stove grates and drip
>pans through the dishwasher. I don't remember ever using the
>dishwasher to wash dishes, glassware, cookware, or bakeware... I do it
>all by hand immediately after use.

You're retired and you have a man purse. That says it all.

[Hank Rogers]

If you put in dishes, glassware, cookware, or bakeware, then it is
not a Popeye approved procedure.

[Mike Duffy]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:30:02 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> I run it  every couple of days.  Takes less than 5 minutes to empty

> If you put in dishes, glassware, cookware, or bakeware, then it is not a
> Popeye approved procedure.

But if it's empty, it probably takes even less than 5 minutes to empty.

[Sheldon Martin]

Even though dish washers have a sanitize cycle none actually sanitize,
especially when dishes are put in open cupboards that are not sanitary
and are open to common air... no home has a sterilized kitchen.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:31:51 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

And no home needs a sterilised kitchen.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Sterilized is different from sanitized. Food residue and people's use
of things can spread bacteria so you get rid of as much as possible
before putting a half dozen forks in the tray with the rest. Or the
plate you had the raw chicken on.

[Hank Rogers]

What do yoose have, Popeye? An autoclave?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Or the porous wooden (usually bamboo, IME) skewer that has meat
cooked into it.

There's a good deal of difference between a wooden cutting board
or salad bowl and a crappy disposable skewer.

Cindy Hamilton