Dinner is in the oven

[Dave Smith]

It's a crusted rack of lamb. There are some small potatoes roasting in
a pan next to the lamb, some asparagus waiting to be steamed, and a
salad with blue cheese dressing.

[Bruce]

Strange how the Sisterhood steam their asparagi in unison.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Sounds good. I like rack of lamb but never had it crusted.

Veal chop, baked potato, & salad here.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-03-26 7:18 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/26/2023 6:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> It's a crusted rack of lamb.  There are some small potatoes roasting
>> in a pan next to the lamb,  some asparagus waiting to be steamed, and
>> a salad with blue cheese dressing.
>
>
> Sounds good.  I like rack of lamb but never had it crusted.

It turned out great. I was a little disappointed in the degree of
doneness. I had followed the instructions, seared it on all sides,
quickly smeared it with Dijon, pressed the crumb mixture on and then
into the preheated oven. It said 20-25 minutes. I set the timer for 22
minutes, stuck the thermometer in and it was only 120. I gave it
another 5 minutes. Then I started the other stuff.

I let the lamb sit for 10 minutes and when I started separating the ribs
most of them were darned near raw. I put the hot pan on the burner
and cut the ribs. Three of the seven were nicely cooked. The rest went
into the pan and got a minute on each side. They turned out to be
wonderful. My wife and I thought they were the best we had ever had.

>
> Veal chop, baked potato, & salad here.

I haven't had vela chops in ages. FWIW, the first veal chop I ever had
were crusted. They were amazing. I keep meaning to do them at home. I
have grilled them a few times, but the crusted chops were the best.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

It was a pulled pork bbq sandwich here (meh) and then a peanut butter
and banana sandwich about an hour later.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/26/2023 7:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-03-26 7:18 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> I let the lamb sit for 10 minutes and when I started separating the ribs
>  most of them were darned near raw.  I put the hot pan on the burner
> and cut the ribs. Three of the seven were nicely cooked. The rest went
> into the pan  and got a minute on each side.  They turned out to be
> wonderful. My wife and I thought they were the best we had ever had.

I had a good run for lamb chops for a while when we were in CT. They
did not sell well in our town and Tuesday was the day the near
expiration packages were marked down to half price or less. A couple of
times a month I'd grab a package.

>
>>
>> Veal chop, baked potato, & salad here.
> I haven't had vela chops in ages.  FWIW, the first veal chop I ever had
> were crusted. They were amazing. I keep meaning to do them at home.  I
> have grilled them a few times, but the crusted chops were the best.
>

Every few months I head here for the Veal chops and other Italian
goodies. It is about 250 miles from me.

https://mazzarosmarket.com/

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-03-27, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> It was a pulled pork bbq sandwich here (meh) and then a peanut butter
> and banana sandwich about an hour later.

Sometime, I'm going to make a peanut butter and banana sandwich. Wasn't
that a Elvis favorite? Where I live, I've never seen anyone eat one.
I assume that all I need are peanut butter, sliced banana, (white?)
bread and, maybe butter?
I gotta hurry. I ain't gettin' any younger. :)

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-03-27, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> It was a pulled pork bbq sandwich here (meh) and then a peanut butter
> and banana sandwich about an hour later.

Since I'm a neophyte, how about peanut butter and banana on cinnamon toast?
Just a thought.

[Bruce]

On 27 Mar 2023 23:31:26 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Don't do it, Leo. It didn't end well for Elvis.

[songbird]

i wouldn't put butter on it. Mom puts butter on almost
every sandwich but not all of them need it.

i also don't much like it on plain white bread, something
more like unbleached or a mix of whole wheat and unbleached
is much better.


songbird

[Thomas]

250? I think 20 is far.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:31:33 PM UTC-5, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> On 2023-03-27, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > It was a pulled pork bbq sandwich here (meh) and then a peanut butter
> > and banana sandwich about an hour later.
> >
> Sometime, I'm going to make a peanut butter and banana sandwich. Wasn't
> that a Elvis favorite?
>

Elvis sandwich also had bacon on it and was fried in butter.

>
> Where I live, I've never seen anyone eat one.
> I assume that all I need are peanut butter, sliced banana, (white?)
> bread and, maybe butter?
> I gotta hurry. I ain't gettin' any younger. :)
>

White bread.

Ripe banana (a few freckles on the peel denote the banana is getting sweeter
and a little softer. Yum!) Sliced into planks (my favorite way to slice one) or
you can slice it into rounds. It doesn't matter as it will stick to the peanut butter.

No butter unless you plan to toast your sandwich but that will make the
peanut butter quite gooey. Peanut butter smeared on toast though is quite
good and yes, gooey.

You'll wonder why you've waited all these years to enjoy one.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I think it would be rather good.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-03-27, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> Sometime, I'm going to make a peanut butter and banana sandwich. Wasn't
> that a Elvis favorite? Where I live, I've never seen anyone eat one.
> I assume that all I need are peanut butter, sliced banana, (white?)
> bread and, maybe butter?

I add bacon and a tiny squirt of molasses / honey / maple syrup.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-03-28, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:

> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> i wouldn't put butter on it. Mom puts butter on almost
> every sandwich but not all of them need it.

The reason I asked was because I put butter on both pieces of bread for
a PB&J and on both sides of both slices of bread for a grilled cheese
sandwich. It's a habit, but I'm unlikely to change .

> i also don't much like it on plain white bread, something
> more like unbleached or a mix of whole wheat and unbleached
> is much better.

Now, the bread is a different story. I don't think rye would be an
option for me. :)

leo

[dsi1]

My son ordered an Elvis pancake in Waikiki. It's quite an interesting combination. You can also do a challenge to get your pancakes free but my guess is that he ordered the large Elvis it so all his friends could dig in. For just a split second, you get to feel like Elvis Presley. That's a very good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxjdunAt1Ks

[Hank Rogers]

Rye makes a great pb&j. But I never put butter on it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-28, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:

Unbleached is white flour. Just not blindingly white. It has had all
the good stuff removed.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Make a small one to try first.
Like a 1/4 sandwich.

I made one in 1970.
Fresh white bread, peanut butter and sliced banana.

I like all the ingredients but all combined was a fail.

[Gary]

Go for the gusto:
Peanut butter and banana on cinnamon toast topped with pulled pork and
coleslaw.

[Gary]

Toasted rye with butter goes well for an over-easy egg meal.

[Ed Pawlowski]

The hard part is getting a good rye bread. The sliced packaged stuff is
crap. You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.

There was a bakery in the Polish section of Philadelphia that was only
open two days a week and people came from miles around to get their
bread. Easter and Christmas the line was much longer than usual.

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Gary wrote:
>> Toasted rye with butter goes well for an over-easy egg meal.
>>
>>
>>
> The hard part is getting a good rye bread.  The sliced packaged stuff is
> crap.  You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.

"Arnold" brand seeded jewish rye is good (grocery store item)
Other brands, not so good.

I also prefer "Arnold" for multigrain bread.
Much better than Pepperidge Farm breads.

[Dave Smith]

It's a real treat when you get a good locally made, freshly baked rye,
but they are extremely rare around here. A nearby city has pretty good
eastern European store and bakery, but even they don't sell good rye bread.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-28, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Toasted rye with butter goes well for an over-easy egg meal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The hard part is getting a good rye bread.  The sliced packaged stuff is
>> crap.  You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.
>
> "Arnold" brand seeded jewish rye is good (grocery store item)

It's hard to tell from here, but it looks kind of soft.

https://smartlabel.labelinsight.com/product/4975076/ingredients

I'll stick with this:

organic wheat flour (organic wheat and malted barley), water, rye,
sea salt, yeast, caraway

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-03-28, Gary wrote:

> Fresh white bread, peanut butter and sliced banana.
> I like all the ingredients but all combined was a fail.

You forgot the bacon!

[cshenk]

That it does! My rye bread is:

1 1/3 c rye
2 2/3 c bread flour (20% spelt mix)
2 TB butter
2 TB sugar or mix of 1 TB brown and 1 TB white
2 tsp salt
2 tsp yeast
1 cup milk
1 cup 1/3 water
optional: 1 TB caraway seeds

This makes a somewhat sturdy bread that toasts well and holds up to
gravy laden sandwiches like meatloaf and gravy or pastrami with lots of
gooie mellted cheese. Excellent toasting bread.

[cshenk]

It's a good example of why I make our bread.

[f...@sdf.org]

On 2023-03-28, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-28, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> Toasted rye with butter goes well for an over-easy egg meal.

>>> The hard part is getting a good rye bread.  The sliced packaged stuff is
>>> crap.  You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.

>> "Arnold" brand seeded jewish rye is good (grocery store item)

> It's hard to tell from here, but it looks kind of soft.

> https://smartlabel.labelinsight.com/product/4975076/ingredients

https://schwebels.com/freshly-baked-breads/deli-breads/rheuben-rye

That's much better than Arnold brand. Both are typically on store
shelves around here. If Schwebels is out of stock, Beefsteak Hearty
Rye is my next choice. I wouldn't say it's (Beefsteak) good, it's
satisfactory, better than no rye bread at all.

> I'll stick with this:

> organic wheat flour (organic wheat and malted barley), water, rye,
> sea salt, yeast, caraway

Working in a donut shop as a baker and in a pizzeria as a grunt who
made dough, sauce, sliced cheese and pepperoni, etc, and did custodial
tasks when i was in my mid teens must have done something to me. When
making the spinners (dumplings) for the Oxtail Stew I posted about a
month-ish back it reminded me how much I dislike working with dough. The
closest I get to making bread is from pre-made frozen dough.

We used to buy Rich Products proof and bake frozen dough. Isn't
available anymore at retailers, have to buy it in bulk. We uses Rhodes
now, i think she gets it at Walmart.

https://rhodesbakenserv.com/rhodes-products-2/thaw-rise-bake

The only thing that beats a warm loaf of bread fresh out of the oven
would be like at Cindy's house where the dough is home made. :)

--
SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

That which does not kill you makes you stranger.
-- Trevor Goodchild - AEon Flux

[Michael Trew]

I think Elvis at those sandwiches fried, but I'm not sure, either. If
so, the butter would come in handy. I once sold a cook book of "Elvis
Favorite Recipes". Perhaps I should have read it, first.

> Don't do it, Leo. It didn't end well for Elvis.

LOL

[Ed Pawlowski]

May be better than others but still not the real deal. Chances are you
have to go to a decent sized city with the right ethnic mix to find it.

[Bruce]

Several eastern European countries have good rye bread as part of
their food culture. Germany too. I can't get it here, though. All I
can get is the ALDI imitation of it, full of youknowwhats.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:22 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>

>> The hard part is getting a good rye bread.  The sliced packaged stuff is
>> crap.  You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.
>
>"Arnold" brand seeded jewish rye is good (grocery store item)
>Other brands, not so good.
>
>I also prefer "Arnold" for multigrain bread.
>Much better than Pepperidge Farm breads.

Trust Gary to recommend a science project :)

Arnold Bread, Jewish Rye, Seedless:
UNBLEACHED ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR [FLOUR, MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, REDUCED
IRON, NIACIN, THIAMIN MONONITRATE (VITAMIN B1), RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN
B2), FOLIC ACID], WATER, RYE FLOUR, SUGAR, SOYBEAN OIL, YEAST, SALT,
GROUND CARAWAY, MOLASSES, PRESERVATIVES (CALCIUM PROPIONATE, SORBIC
ACID), GRAIN VINEGAR, MONOGLYCERIDES, DATEM, GARLIC POWDER, ONION
POWDER, FUMARIC ACID, GROUND DILL SEED, ACETIC ACID, LACTIC ACID, SOY
LECITHIN, HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN OIL, WHEAT GLUTEN, NATURAL FLAVOR,
CALCIUM SULFATE

I don't know what that is, but bread it ain't.

[Bruce]

That's bread.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:55:05 GMT, f...@sdf.org wrote:

>On 2023-03-28, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-28, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Toasted rye with butter goes well for an over-easy egg meal.
>
>>>> The hard part is getting a good rye bread.  The sliced packaged stuff is
>>>> crap.  You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.
>
>>> "Arnold" brand seeded jewish rye is good (grocery store item)
>
>> It's hard to tell from here, but it looks kind of soft.
>
>> https://smartlabel.labelinsight.com/product/4975076/ingredients
>
>https://schwebels.com/freshly-baked-breads/deli-breads/rheuben-rye
>
>That's much better than Arnold brand. Both are typically on store
>shelves around here.

Yes, better than Arnold's, but still:
Enriched wheat flour (wheat flour, barley malt, niacin, iron, thiamin
mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, rye flour, contains 2 %
or less of the. following: caraway seeds, yeast, salt, soybean oil,
calcium propionate (preservative), dough conditioner (monoglycerides),
vinegar, yeast nutrient (ammonium sulfate), onions, corn meal,
monocalcium phosphate, ascorbic acid.

Still a typical supermarket bread. And soybean oil in bread? Get outta
here.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-28, f...@sdf.org <f...@sdf.org> wrote:
> On 2023-03-28, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-03-28, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Toasted rye with butter goes well for an over-easy egg meal.
>
>>>> The hard part is getting a good rye bread.  The sliced packaged stuff is
>>>> crap.  You have to get a loaf from a bakery that makes the real deal.
>
>>> "Arnold" brand seeded jewish rye is good (grocery store item)
>
>> It's hard to tell from here, but it looks kind of soft.
>
>> https://smartlabel.labelinsight.com/product/4975076/ingredients
>
> https://schwebels.com/freshly-baked-breads/deli-breads/rheuben-rye
>
> That's much better than Arnold brand. Both are typically on store
> shelves around here. If Schwebels is out of stock, Beefsteak Hearty
> Rye is my next choice. I wouldn't say it's (Beefsteak) good, it's
> satisfactory, better than no rye bread at all.

It's too sweet for me.

>> I'll stick with this:
>
>> organic wheat flour (organic wheat and malted barley), water, rye,
>> sea salt, yeast, caraway
>
> Working in a donut shop as a baker and in a pizzeria as a grunt who
> made dough, sauce, sliced cheese and pepperoni, etc, and did custodial
> tasks when i was in my mid teens must have done something to me. When
> making the spinners (dumplings) for the Oxtail Stew I posted about a
> month-ish back it reminded me how much I dislike working with dough. The
> closest I get to making bread is from pre-made frozen dough.
>
> We used to buy Rich Products proof and bake frozen dough. Isn't
> available anymore at retailers, have to buy it in bulk. We uses Rhodes
> now, i think she gets it at Walmart.
>
> https://rhodesbakenserv.com/rhodes-products-2/thaw-rise-bake
>
> The only thing that beats a warm loaf of bread fresh out of the oven
> would be like at Cindy's house where the dough is home made. :)

I don't bake bread. Why should I faff around with it when I can buy
really excellent bread at the bakery? That ingredients list was from
Zingerman's Bakehouse in Ann Arbor.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Do like cshenk here does. Make your own bread and share the recipes. :)

[Bruce]

I did that for years, but I'm too busy these days. Anyway, here's my
general bread recipe: flour+liquid+rising agent+salt.

[dsi1]

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 12:53:06 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> It's a crusted rack of lamb. There are some small potatoes roasting in
> a pan next to the lamb, some asparagus waiting to be steamed, and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing.

I cooked dinner in an automatic rice cooker. Shoyu chicken - it's chicken, water, shoyu, sugar, and ginger. That's all. You boil it for 40 minutes to an hour. rfc has made me a little wary of the chicken so I made sure to rinse it off first. The chicken was packed for my wife's lunch.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GyseeTzCsyskrQ4W7

[Gary]

That's one giant looking strawberry.

[dsi1]

Those were big. They were pretty tasty.
Breakfast yesterday was kalbi, eggs, and fried rice. That was pretty tasty too.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZMSnGZKU9fmR6QAt8

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-03-28, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

I don't want to give the impression that I don't like rye bread. I just
don't think it would go well with peanut butter and bananas. Then again,
what do I know?
The brand I see at my supermarket is Oroweat. I like the dill rye.

[cshenk]

Might be mixing us up?

Carol, the one baking bread all the time

[Bruce]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:24:25 +0000, "cshenk"
<csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> I don't bake bread. Why should I faff around with it when I can buy
>> really excellent bread at the bakery?

Good store bought bread's expensive.

[cshenk]

I make my own mostly. I do sometimes buy Russian Pumpernickle or
Jewish rye, but not often.

[cshenk]

Yup! Came across an intesting one today that uses ranch dry dressing
mix. I may do that this weekend.

[cshenk]

Apologies, that should be 2/3 cup water

[cshenk]

Gary wrote:

> On 3/27/2023 7:31 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >On 2023-03-27, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > It was a pulled pork bbq sandwich here (meh) and then a peanut
> > > butter and banana sandwich about an hour later.
> >
> >
> > Sometime, I'm going to make a peanut butter and banana sandwich.
> > Wasn't that a Elvis favorite? Where I live, I've never seen anyone
> > eat one. I assume that all I need are peanut butter, sliced
> > banana, (white?) bread and, maybe butter?
> > I gotta hurry. I ain't gettin' any younger. :)
>

> Make a small one to try first.
> Like a 1/4 sandwich.
>
> I made one in 1970.

> Fresh white bread, peanut butter and sliced banana.
>
> I like all the ingredients but all combined was a fail.

I think it would be a fail here too.

[cshenk]

Looks good as always! The yellow item between the strawberries (that
seem to hide a few blackberries or blueberries) is what? I have a few
guesses but would like to know.

[Bruce]

Pineapple?

[cshenk]

I did fried rice with chicken and egg plus green onion and
yellow/orange/red mini-bell peppers last night. We had it with mild
fresh kimchee using cabbage, carrots and gochujang.

Gosh, I have to laugh. We sound like aliens to mainland USA almost I
bet!

[GM]

By dsi1 "standards" you are naught but honkie mainland white trash...

--
GM

[Bruce]

Cindy has gochujang with her bibimbap every second day, you know.

[Hank Rogers]

No, actually, here on the shitty mainland, there are many asians.
We've had them for several centuries. Most of them are not clannish
and live exactly the same as other people here. They have
contributed to our society the same as most other peoples.

You and Tojo might be surprised that we have lot's of other people
too. We have mexicans, arabs, jews, europeans, and people from tiny
countries that you and Tojo have never heard of. We even have
negroes from dozens of countries. They too are citizens, just like
you and Tojo. But You, and Tojo are special and different.

These people are American citizens. They accept the likes of you,
and even Uncle Tojo and me.

Won't you consider accepting them?

There are many American people who are not asians, and are not even
from Sasebo.

You, and uncle Tojo are wearing eye blinders, like those used on
draft horses in the 19th century to keep them focused on pulling
the wagon.

You can take those blinders off, and look around. I don't know if
poor uncle can do that.

[dsi1]

It's a pineapple and it's protecting a couple of blueberries. They're shy.
Our local Macy's has shut down. Boy, it had a lot of spot lights.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fkzMHkGhSeFmCiBz5

[GM]

<APPLAUSE>

Every time I see Unca Tojo spout off his ignernt prejudiced crap, I'm reminded of a lovely woman I was blessed to
meet and know, many years ago now...

Her name? In popular WWII history, she was known as "Tokyo Rose" - her real name was Iva Toguri...

She was in Japan, visiting elderly relatives, when Pearl Harbor happened - so she was stuck in
Japan. She was coerced into making English - language propaganda radio broadcasts in order to survive...

After the war the Americans imprisoned her under false pretenses, she spent years being hounded, and it was
not until 1977 that President Ford pardoned her...

She eventually moved to Chicago, opening a lovely Japanese mini - department store, "J. Toguri Mercantile" at
the corner of Clark and Belmont, south of Wrigley Field It prospered, and she raised a loving family... they bought
property cheap in that area when it was a dump, and became wealthy when the area gentrified... they more
than deserved their eventual good fortune...

I met her in the late 70's, she was good friends with an uncle of mine. After that, whenever I visited her store, she'd come
out and say, "Oh, Greg, HONEY, how are you!?"... we'd chat and have some laughs, a cup of tea and a cookie...

She was not one bit bitter, despite that bad hands she'd been dealt. She'd say, "You know, I have a nice life...", she
never mentioned the past bad things...

She was a friend and mentor to many. She helped many who were down on their luck - she was a saint IMNSHO...

At the age of 90 she was still in her store, working four days per week - she worked her ass off until a month before
she passed, she had BOUNDLESS energy, and a zest for life... her memorial service had HUNDREDS in attendance...

So we say to you UNCA TOJO - why don't you take a lesson from lovely Iva, instead of being the HORSE'S ARSE that
you are...

She had a STRENGTH of CHARACTER that you LACK...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Toguri_D%27Aquino

"Toguri was born in Los Angeles, and was a daughter of Japanese immigrants. Her father, Jun Toguri, had come to
the U.S. in 1899, and her mother, Fumi, in 1913.  Iva was a Girl Scout, and was raised as a Christian...

Tokyo Rose ceased to be merely a symbol during September 1945 when Iva Toguri D'Aquino, a Japanese-American
disc jockey for a propagandist radio program, attempted to return to the United States. Toguri was accused of being
the "real" Tokyo Rose, arrested, tried, and became the seventh person in U.S. history to be convicted of treason...

Toguri was eventually paroled from prison in 1956, but it was more than twenty years later that she received an official
presidential pardon for her role in the war...

After World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. military detained Toguri for a year before releasing her due to lack of evidence.
Department of Justice officials agreed that her broadcasts were "innocuous". But when Toguri tried to return to the
United States, an uproar ensued because Walter Winchell (a powerful broadcasting personality) and the American Legion
lobbied relentlessly for a trial, prompting the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to renew its investigation of
Toguri's wartime activities. Her 1949 trial resulted in a conviction on one of eight counts of treason...

In 1974, investigative journalists found that important witnesses had asserted that they were forced to lie during
testimony. They stated that FBI and US occupation police had coached them for more than two months about
what they should say on the stand, and that they had been threatened with treason trials themselves if they did
not cooperate. U.S. President Gerald Ford pardoned Toguri in 1977 based on these revelations and earlier
issues with the indictment...

On January 15, 2006, the World War II Veterans Committee awarded Toguri its annual Edward J. Herlihy Citizenship
Award, citing "her indomitable spirit, love of country, and the example of courage she has given her fellow
Americans".

According to one biographer, Toguri found it the most memorable day of her life...

Toguri died of natural causes in a Chicago hospital on September 26, 2006, at the age of 90..."

</>
.

[dsi1]

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 2:53:20 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:

> Every time I see Unca Tojo spout off his ignernt prejudiced crap, I'm reminded of a lovely woman I was blessed to
> meet and know, many years ago now...

Cut me a break PAL. I've seen how you guys treat black people and Mexicans on the mainland. When I was there, I didn't have any problems. OTOH, the mainlanders seem to have a problem with Asians these days. Should I carry some heat when I'm there? Would that be a good idea?

[Hank Rogers]

Tojo, an asshole like yoose should carry heat wherever you go ...
even on da rock. You never know when someone will get fed up with
your bullshit and pound you down to a foot lower than you are now.

[GM]

Unca Tojo - POUNDED down to a POI pulp...

LOL...!!!

--
GM

[GM]

In lieu of a gun, why don't you just carry around your 24 karat gold - plated Good Citizenship Award, and clobber peeples with it when you get STEAMED at them, David...???

:-|

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-03-31, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Tojo, an asshole like yoose should carry heat wherever you go ...
> even on da rock. You never know when someone will get fed up with
> your bullshit and pound you down to a foot lower than you are now.

Careful, Hank! Soon you'll be uttering death sentences.

What happenned to Bryan anyway?

[dsi1]

I have to admit that you cook some different dishes. Tonight I made Chinese style cashew nut chicken. That's just regular food if you're Chinese.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dwj9dPZ6QASRGpP16

[dsi1]

Pounded down to a poi pulp by your little imaginary friend? Surely you jest, PAL.*

*Passive Aggressive Loser

[Bruce]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:21:39 +0000, "cshenk"
<csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:

By the way, is the main ingredient in your gochujang also corn syrup?

[Cindy Hamilton]

"You guys" doesn't include all of us. Please be specific to avoid
loss of face.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[cshenk]

Umm, I live in Virginia each, come from Clemson SC and was born in NY.
I am not Asian but in my 26 years Navy, lived in Asia for 7 years.

Talk about missing the beat major on a regular here.

[cshenk]

Yup! I's send pictures but once I lost my win10 machine (died), I got
a win11 and it doesn't like xananews. XP does but that machine has
limited internet access.

I like the cashew chicken but not into celery. I'd have used flat
Italian green beens then colorful bell peppers and a little garlic
chili paste (Vietnam product).

Tonight is all sort of midland USA with a pasta dish. The sauce is a
white sauce (same as Beuchamel if I spelled that right) and seasonings
similar to ranch dressing plus Vietmamese garlic chili sauce (just a
little) and a mix of Romano and Parmesan. Colorful bell peppers and
green onions, cabbage and carrots, plus yellow hot onion and Don wanted
some meat tonight so 12oz keilbasa.

Serving it with garlic bread from a dryng out a touch, french loaf made
3 days ago that got butter/garlic'd. Also mini-peach pies made in
spring roll wrappers with brown sugar and brushed with Maple syrup.
The jug pours too much so put a dolup in a microwave bowl and nuke for
20 seconds then use a pastry brush),

[cshenk]

dsi1 wrote:

> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:49:22 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 12:53:06 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> > > > It's a crusted rack of lamb. There are some small potatoes
> > > > roasting in a pan next to the lamb, some asparagus waiting to
> > > > be steamed, and a salad with blue cheese dressing.
> > >
> > > I cooked dinner in an automatic rice cooker. Shoyu chicken - it's
> > > chicken, water, shoyu, sugar, and ginger. That's all. You boil it
> > > for 40 minutes to an hour. rfc has made me a little wary of the
> > > chicken so I made sure to rinse it off first. The chicken was
> > > packed for my wife's lunch.
> > >
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/GyseeTzCsyskrQ4W7
> > Looks good as always! The yellow item between the strawberries
> > (that seem to hide a few blackberries or blueberries) is what? I
> > have a few guesses but would like to know.
>
> It's a pineapple and it's protecting a couple of blueberries. They're
> shy.

Snicker, ok!

> Our local Macy's has shut down. Boy, it had a lot of spot
> lights.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fkzMHkGhSeFmCiBz5

Sad there.

We still have one, I went there for Charlotte's prom dress and some
good outfits for job interviews. We also have Dillards and JC Penny.

[dsi1]

There's still Macy's around - just not in our little town. We never had a Dilard's and JCPenney has been gone from Hawaii for decades. I bought a sport coat from JCPenney before we moved to the mainland. It probably cost a lot of money - $30 or so and was pretty nice. I wonder what happened to that jacket. I wore it when our company went to lunch at Benihana restaurant. I got a look of approval from my boss - he liked my jacket. That guy was such a dick - the worst ever.

[cshenk]

Somehow wearing a jacket in Hawaii feels wrong... or were you on the
mainland then?

[dsi1]

That was on the mainland. I would never wear such a getup on this rock. That would be wrong. I would wear that monkey suit when going on interviews on the mainland. One day some guy with nylon surfer shorts and a tank top came in for an interview at the company I was working for in California. It was pretty funny up until the point that he got the job. He was like a surfing golden boy and we called him "Blonde." He turned out to be an okay dude.
When I got back from the mainland, I would wear a dress shirt and tie when looking for a job. These days, I'd never do that. I'd wear something like this.

https://bamfstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/bluehawaiired-main1.jpg

[jmcquown]

Oh dear. David wrote "I bought a sport coat from JCPenney before we
moved to the mainland."

Jill

[Michael Trew]

I just noticed that he hasn't posted in a while. It would be very
ironic if he kicked the bucket before Kuthe. Either way, I hope that
Bryan is well.

[%]

Some tried to warn Bryan about his lame death wishes, I hope
the demented fucker is in misery.

[Bruce]

Do not your Presbyterian brethren frown upon death wishes? Should not
a death wisher be ostracised by members from the flock?

[Michael Trew]

On 4/1/2023 14:56, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:58:09 -0400, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/31/2023 1:22, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On 2023-03-31, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tojo, an asshole like yoose should carry heat wherever you go ...
>>>> even on da rock. You never know when someone will get fed up with
>>>> your bullshit and pound you down to a foot lower than you are now.
>>>
>>> Careful, Hank! Soon you'll be uttering death sentences.
>>>
>>> What happenned to Bryan anyway?

...And like that, he reappeared!

>> I just noticed that he hasn't posted in a while. It would be very
>> ironic if he kicked the bucket before Kuthe. Either way, I hope that
>> Bryan is well.
>
> Do not your Presbyterian brethren frown upon death wishes? Should not
> a death wisher be ostracised by members from the flock?

Lol... Maybe it's a crazy, radical thought, but being pleasant toward
people in general regardless of their beliefs seems to be a better idea.
I'm sure not a saint, but most of RFC -- you included -- really could
stand to work on that.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 15:08:04 -0400, Michael Trew

What beliefs in their cases? "Thou shallt be nasty?" Anyway, thank you
for the insight, Reverend Trew. Or is that Vicar in the Presbyterian
church? Minister? Pastor? Padre?

[Dave Smith]

That would be karma.

[Hank Rogers]

HUSH! Canadian police officers never invoke karma to enforce the
law. Dumping trash is allowed, but you're going too far when you
sic karma on those perps. Shame on you.

[%]

Hank Rogers wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-04-01 1:58 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 3/31/2023 1:22, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>
>>>> Careful, Hank! Soon you'll be uttering death sentences.
>>>>
>>>> What happenned to Bryan anyway?
>>>

>>> I just noticed that he hasn't posted in a while.  It would be very
>>> ironic if he kicked the bucket before Kuthe.  Either way, I hope

>>> that Bryan is well.
>>
>>
>> That would be karma.
>>
>
> HUSH! Canadian police officers never invoke karma to enforce the law.
> Dumping trash is allowed, but you're going too far when you sic karma on
> those perps. Shame on you.
>
>

Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!

[Gary]

Keep in mind though most all of the friendly newsgroups are dead now.
It's the variety of topics and constant conflict that keeps this group
thriving.

[S Viemeister]

On 02/04/2023 11:42, Gary wrote:

> Keep in mind though most all of the friendly newsgroups are dead now.
> It's the variety of topics and constant conflict that keeps this group
> thriving.
>

It's the nastiness and conflict, which have caused many former posters
to leave.

[jmcquown]

So very true, Sheila. For example, JanetB (USA) stopped posting here
for that reason. I can think of a few others, too.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 09:24:51 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

A lot of the nastiness comes from you.

[Graham]

Boron too.

[Bruce]

She could be quite nasty herself if someone disagreed with her.

[Dave Smith]

Boron was offended by nastiness?? LOL. That sends the irony meter over
the end of the scale.

[Gary]

No comment from me. Just passing this on to killfile girl.

[Bruce]

lol, good one

[Dave Smith]

You don't think that maybe people who are offended by the comments of
some of the obnoxious and offensive posters that perhaps they could just
filter those out so they don't have to see them?

[Bruce]

What a strange sentence.

[Michael Trew]

Boron seemed to get along well with the UK variety Janet -- those two
were a match made in heaven.

I ran into Boron in another group, and even though I ignored her posts,
she saw one of mine, and blew up on me for literally no reason... hehe.

[Bruce]

She had a short fuse in RFC and could go BALLISTIC. "Ghe ghe."

[GM]

Yes, Janet pUKe and BORE - on Elgar *are* indeed "a match made in heaven" - of the
"malignant narcissist" type...

--
GM

[jmcquown]

On 4/2/2023 1:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-04-02 12:38 p.m., Gary wrote:
>> On 4/2/2023 11:19 AM, Bruce wrote:
> t's the nastiness and conflict, which have caused many former posters
>>>>> to leave.
>>>>>
>>>> So very true, Sheila.  For example, JanetB (USA) stopped posting here
>>>> for that reason.  I can think of a few others, too.
>>>
>>> A lot of the nastiness comes from you.
>>

Says the guy who had to constantly nymshift to bypass filters.

>> No comment from me. Just passing this on to killfile girl.
>>
>
> You don't think that maybe people who are offended by the comments of
> some of the obnoxious and offensive posters that perhaps they could just
> filter those out so they don't have to see them?
>

Gary doesn't believe in killfiles. He joins right in but of course when
he does it he's "just kidding", wink wink, nod nod. There's a reason
newsreaders have filter options.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 18:43:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 4/2/2023 1:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-04-02 12:38 p.m., Gary wrote:
>>> On 4/2/2023 11:19 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> t's the nastiness and conflict, which have caused many former posters
>>>>>> to leave.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So very true, Sheila.  For example, JanetB (USA) stopped posting here
>>>>> for that reason.  I can think of a few others, too.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of the nastiness comes from you.
>>>
>Says the guy who had to constantly nymshift to bypass filters.

You're trying to change the topic, but you're not denying it.
Promising!

[Bruce]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 18:31:51 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:21:39 +0000, "cshenk"
><csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>
>>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> Those were big. They were pretty tasty.
>>> Breakfast yesterday was kalbi, eggs, and fried rice. That was pretty
>>> tasty too.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZMSnGZKU9fmR6QAt8
>>
>>I did fried rice with chicken and egg plus green onion and
>>yellow/orange/red mini-bell peppers last night. We had it with mild
>>fresh kimchee using cabbage, carrots and gochujang.
>>
>>Gosh, I have to laugh. We sound like aliens to mainland USA almost I
>>bet!
>
>By the way, is the main ingredient in your gochujang also corn syrup?

Crickets tell me the answer to the question is Yes.

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