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Sheldon Martin
Jul 9, 2021, 7:13:09 AM7/9/21
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Neither Republican nor Democrat, just the facts!!
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart Every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears +
Costco + K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and
keep in mind they did this in
only fifteen years.
8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought
bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx. 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are
Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur
at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans, Democrats,
Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To President Biden and all 535 voting members of the Legislature:
It is now official that the majority of you are corrupt morons:
a. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 246
years to get it right and it is broke.
b. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 86 years to
get it right and it is broke.
c. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get
it right and it is broke.
d. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 57 years to get it
right. $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and
transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
e. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You’ve had 56 years
to get it right and they’re broke.
f. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 51 years to get
it right and it is broke.
g. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our
dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with
a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever
before. You had 44 years to get it right and it is an abysmal
failure.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
Please circulate this. It is very well stated. Maybe it will end up
in the e-mails of some of our "duly elected' (they never read
anything) and their staff will clue them in on how Americans feel.
AND I know what's wrong. We have lost our minds to "Political
Correctness" !! Someone please tell me what the HELL's wrong with all
the people that run this country!!!! We're "broke" & can't help our
own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.,? In the last few
months, we have provided aid to Haiti, Chile, and Turkey .... and now
Pakistan ... previous home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of
DOLLARS!!!
Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed income', receive no aid nor do
they get any breaks.
AMERICA: a country where we have homeless without shelter, children
going to bed hungry, elderly going without 'needed' meds, and mentally
ill without treatment etc. etc., all while politicians get richer and
richer on our taxes. Imagine if the *GOVERNMENT* gave 'US' the same
support they give to other countries. Sad isn't it?
99% of people won't have the guts to forward this.
I admit - I'm one of the 1%!
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart Every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears +
Costco + K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and
keep in mind they did this in
only fifteen years.
8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought
bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx. 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are
Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur
at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans, Democrats,
Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To President Biden and all 535 voting members of the Legislature:
It is now official that the majority of you are corrupt morons:
a. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 246
years to get it right and it is broke.
b. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 86 years to
get it right and it is broke.
c. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get
it right and it is broke.
d. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 57 years to get it
right. $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and
transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
e. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You’ve had 56 years
to get it right and they’re broke.
f. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 51 years to get
it right and it is broke.
g. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our
dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with
a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever
before. You had 44 years to get it right and it is an abysmal
failure.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
Please circulate this. It is very well stated. Maybe it will end up
in the e-mails of some of our "duly elected' (they never read
anything) and their staff will clue them in on how Americans feel.
AND I know what's wrong. We have lost our minds to "Political
Correctness" !! Someone please tell me what the HELL's wrong with all
the people that run this country!!!! We're "broke" & can't help our
own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.,? In the last few
months, we have provided aid to Haiti, Chile, and Turkey .... and now
Pakistan ... previous home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of
DOLLARS!!!
Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed income', receive no aid nor do
they get any breaks.
AMERICA: a country where we have homeless without shelter, children
going to bed hungry, elderly going without 'needed' meds, and mentally
ill without treatment etc. etc., all while politicians get richer and
richer on our taxes. Imagine if the *GOVERNMENT* gave 'US' the same
support they give to other countries. Sad isn't it?
99% of people won't have the guts to forward this.
I admit - I'm one of the 1%!
BRUkanarie
Jul 9, 2021, 7:22:02 AM7/9/21
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 07:13:02 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:
Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
wrote:
Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
Sheldon Martin
Jul 9, 2021, 3:36:03 PM7/9/21
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
>On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
>Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
>infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
east and africa.
Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
mommies.
>On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
>Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
>infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
east and africa.
Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
mommies.
dsi1
Jul 9, 2021, 3:50:13 PM7/9/21
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GM
Jul 9, 2021, 3:59:38 PM7/9/21
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"Oh, what's the matter...can't you BREATHE in there, Poi Boi...is that SQUEEKING noize ALL the sound that 'u' can make...!!!???"
Lol...
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GM
dsi1
Jul 9, 2021, 4:11:41 PM7/9/21
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Q: What's the difference between avian flu and swine flu?
A: One requires tweetment and the other needs oinkment! 😄
GM
Jul 9, 2021, 4:32:35 PM7/9/21
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"Q: What is the difference between a NUN taking a bath and Poi Boi's DAUGHTER taking a bath...???
A: the former has HOPE in her SOUL...and the latter has SOAP in her HOLE...!!!"
LOL...!!!
;-P
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GM
dsi1
Jul 9, 2021, 4:46:20 PM7/9/21
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A: Fsh!
Bruce 2.0
Jul 9, 2021, 5:14:35 PM7/9/21
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 15:35:56 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
keyboard.
>>Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
>>infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
>
>Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
>All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
>east and africa.
>Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
>a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
>if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
>'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
>mommies.
Apart from the fact that I'm not a black or betoweled American, why do
you say these things to me? I think it's nonsense to ask for apologies
or reparations for what happened hundreds of years ago.
wrote:
>On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
>
>Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
I blame the cat. She insists on sleeping with her head or paw on my
>On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
>
>Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
keyboard.
>>Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
>>infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
>
>Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
>All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
>east and africa.
>Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
>a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
>if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
>'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
>mommies.
you say these things to me? I think it's nonsense to ask for apologies
or reparations for what happened hundreds of years ago.
Hank Rogers
Jul 9, 2021, 5:24:09 PM7/9/21
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around the world, even though yoose a queer.
*Giggity giggity goo !*
Hank Rogers
Jul 9, 2021, 5:27:26 PM7/9/21
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GM wrote:
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 2:50:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 9:36:03 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
>>>
>>> Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
>>>> Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
>>>> infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
>>> Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
>>> All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
>>> east and africa.
>>> Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
>>> a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
>>> if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
>>> 'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
>>> mommies.
>> Please stop spreading fake information. That dumb ass is not an American! The rfc whining and complaints department is also cracking down on posters that insist on posting pointless and/or non-uplifting, material. Please re-write your post to reflect the new rfc guidelines and resubmit it to the RFCW&C committee. Yoose has 5 days to comply - or else!
>
>
> Time to lock Poi Boi back in his clown box - a box that is *airtight*...
>
It ain't airtight. Yoose can still piss on him.
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 2:50:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 9:36:03 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
>>>
>>> Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
>>>> Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
>>>> infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
>>> Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
>>> All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
>>> east and africa.
>>> Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
>>> a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
>>> if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
>>> 'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
>>> mommies.
>> Please stop spreading fake information. That dumb ass is not an American! The rfc whining and complaints department is also cracking down on posters that insist on posting pointless and/or non-uplifting, material. Please re-write your post to reflect the new rfc guidelines and resubmit it to the RFCW&C committee. Yoose has 5 days to comply - or else!
>
>
> Time to lock Poi Boi back in his clown box - a box that is *airtight*...
>
It's the same type box Popeye lives in.
bruce bowser
Jul 10, 2021, 11:45:35 AM7/10/21
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The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
GM
Jul 10, 2021, 12:28:36 PM7/10/21
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bruce bowser wrote:
> The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
Those anti - US trolls here are simply jealous. If Australia, for example, were a US state, it would be one of the poorer states...by any number of gauges, Americans are roughly 20% richer:
> The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=US
United States 2020 $63,543.00
Australia 2020 $51,812.00
</>
Bruce 2.0
Jul 10, 2021, 3:46:43 PM7/10/21
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 08:45:31 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
And it doesn't matter how that wealth is distributed or at what
<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
expense that wealth is acquired? Only the bottom line counts. How
American of you.
dsi1
Jul 11, 2021, 2:45:47 AM7/11/21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8u4uTeL3s
bruce bowser
Jul 11, 2021, 3:55:39 AM7/11/21
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Bruce 2.0
Jul 11, 2021, 3:56:47 AM7/11/21
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 00:55:35 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 2:45:47 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 9:46:43 AM UTC-10, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> > On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 08:45:31 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> > <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
>> > And it doesn't matter how that wealth is distributed or at what
>> > expense that wealth is acquired? Only the bottom line counts. How
>> > American of you.
>> That would be correct. The young folks can't afford to buy a house, if they try to get an education, they'll end up with some mind-numbing debt. They can't afford to get reasonable healthcare coverage, nor can single moms afford childcare. The old farts are totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century. The good news, I guess, is that the young Americans can afford to get the latest and greatest cell phones.
>
>And food and education, drugs (both legal and illegal) and prostitution, guns and ammo, clothing, and pornography and computer games.
>
Sounds like a ball!
>On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 2:45:47 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 9:46:43 AM UTC-10, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> > On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 08:45:31 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
>> > <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
>> > And it doesn't matter how that wealth is distributed or at what
>> > expense that wealth is acquired? Only the bottom line counts. How
>> > American of you.
>> That would be correct. The young folks can't afford to buy a house, if they try to get an education, they'll end up with some mind-numbing debt. They can't afford to get reasonable healthcare coverage, nor can single moms afford childcare. The old farts are totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century. The good news, I guess, is that the young Americans can afford to get the latest and greatest cell phones.
>
>And food and education, drugs (both legal and illegal) and prostitution, guns and ammo, clothing, and pornography and computer games.
>
bruce bowser
Jul 11, 2021, 8:32:22 AM7/11/21
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Sheldon Martin
Jul 11, 2021, 8:37:29 AM7/11/21
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 dsi1 dsi123 wrote:
>On Saturday, July 10, 2021 Bruce 2.0 wrote:
You mean they can't afford to buy a McMansion... there are plenty
affordable houses.
>If they try to get an education, they'll end up with some mind-numbing debt.
That's strictly a choice they make, they want to wear fancy suits and
ties, and work in a corner cubie, but haven't the intellect for those
sort of jobs, so they soon collect unemployment checks. They can earn
a lot more money by learning a skilled trade and they'll have no debt,
not ever.
>They can't afford to get reasonable healthcare coverage,
Good healthcare is very reasonably priced, and in the skilled trades
it's very traditional for the employer to pay for group coverage.
>Nor can single moms afford childcare.
They need to learn how to keep their legs closed or insist on oral
sex... they need to offer their ass on a turkey plater.
>The old farts are totally out of touch
>with the realities of the 21st century.
I'm one of those old farts who has never been in debt, yet I have more
and experienced more than most young folks/spoiled brats.
I worked over time, second jobs and saved money to pay cash for a
house. I paid for every car I ever owned all cash.
>The good news, I guess, is that the young Americans
>can afford to get the latest and greatest cell phones.
They go into debt because they must have the latest and greatest
toys... cell phones are nothing compared to the luxury cars they need
to drive and they must have expensive vacations...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8u4uTeL3s
>On Saturday, July 10, 2021 Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> >The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
>> And it doesn't matter how that wealth is distributed or at what
>> expense that wealth is acquired? Only the bottom line counts. How
>> American of you.
>
>That would be correct. The young folks can't afford to buy a house.
>>
>> >The US must be doing something right. The US and Canada are the richest people.
>> And it doesn't matter how that wealth is distributed or at what
>> expense that wealth is acquired? Only the bottom line counts. How
>> American of you.
>
You mean they can't afford to buy a McMansion... there are plenty
affordable houses.
>If they try to get an education, they'll end up with some mind-numbing debt.
That's strictly a choice they make, they want to wear fancy suits and
ties, and work in a corner cubie, but haven't the intellect for those
sort of jobs, so they soon collect unemployment checks. They can earn
a lot more money by learning a skilled trade and they'll have no debt,
not ever.
>They can't afford to get reasonable healthcare coverage,
it's very traditional for the employer to pay for group coverage.
>Nor can single moms afford childcare.
They need to learn how to keep their legs closed or insist on oral
sex... they need to offer their ass on a turkey plater.
>The old farts are totally out of touch
>with the realities of the 21st century.
and experienced more than most young folks/spoiled brats.
I worked over time, second jobs and saved money to pay cash for a
house. I paid for every car I ever owned all cash.
>The good news, I guess, is that the young Americans
>can afford to get the latest and greatest cell phones.
toys... cell phones are nothing compared to the luxury cars they need
to drive and they must have expensive vacations...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8u4uTeL3s
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 11, 2021, 9:31:48 AM7/11/21
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give them any thought.
Cindy Hamilton
GM
Jul 11, 2021, 1:56:39 PM7/11/21
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GM
dsi1
Jul 11, 2021, 3:28:28 PM7/11/21
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GM
Jul 11, 2021, 3:55:57 PM7/11/21
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GM
dsi1
Jul 11, 2021, 5:28:56 PM7/11/21
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On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 9:55:57 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> Please post some more or your vomitacious food pix, Poi Boi, that way we can see that you indeed *shit* where you *eat*, lol...
>
> --
> GM
You better believe that I'm going to be posting more pictures. I know how much it angers you losers/failures to see someone that actually has a life of their own. That gives me pleasure. Am I a bad person? Maybe. Here's a picture of a guitar I bolted together yesterday. That poor guitar has been in a fire! A fire of my own design, of course...
> Please post some more or your vomitacious food pix, Poi Boi, that way we can see that you indeed *shit* where you *eat*, lol...
>
> --
> GM
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CRUrH5KCE8FiKYqi9
bruce bowser
Jul 11, 2021, 7:18:17 PM7/11/21
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bruce bowser
Jul 11, 2021, 10:16:50 PM7/11/21
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Michael Trew
Jul 12, 2021, 12:56:08 AM7/12/21
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On 7/11/2021 2:45 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> That would be correct. The young folks can't afford to buy a house, if they try to get an education, they'll end up with some mind-numbing debt. They can't afford to get reasonable healthcare coverage, nor can single moms afford childcare. The old farts are totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century. The good news, I guess, is that the young Americans can afford to get the latest and greatest cell phones.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8u4uTeL3s
I guess I'm an "out of touch old fart" in my 20's, since I've realized
> That would be correct. The young folks can't afford to buy a house, if they try to get an education, they'll end up with some mind-numbing debt. They can't afford to get reasonable healthcare coverage, nor can single moms afford childcare. The old farts are totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century. The good news, I guess, is that the young Americans can afford to get the latest and greatest cell phones.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8u4uTeL3s
that I can live somewhere with a low cost of living, buy a house for a
couple grand cash, fix it up, live in it -- and have NO rent or
mortgage. You have to know how to play the game. I don't envy people
that have to pay a monthly stipend to live somewhere. A little sweat
equity can go a long way.
Michael Trew
Jul 12, 2021, 1:00:23 AM7/12/21
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On 7/11/2021 8:37 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> They can earn
> a lot more money by learning a skilled trade and they'll have no debt,
> not ever.
I don't understand why people don't push trade schools like they do
> They can earn
> a lot more money by learning a skilled trade and they'll have no debt,
> not ever.
college. In a year or so, you can make $20+ an hour with raises,
sometimes far better starting.
>
> They need to learn how to keep their legs closed
child, keep your legs closed. I couldn't date a woman that felt any
other way. If you are mature enough for sex, you best make sure you're
mature enough for a child... I don't care how "safe" you are, BE READY
for the possibility and take the responsibility or abstain.
Before someone bitches at me, rape is a WHOLE other ordeal, not related
to my former comment.
GM
Jul 12, 2021, 1:38:26 AM7/12/21
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Michael Trew wrote:
> On 7/11/2021 8:37 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > They can earn
> > a lot more money by learning a skilled trade and they'll have no debt,
> > not ever.
> I don't understand why people don't push trade schools like they do
> college. In a year or so, you can make $20+ an hour with raises,
> sometimes far better starting.
I work for an agency that trains people in welding, CNC, press brake. Free training via WIOA or other grants, takes about six months, and the trainees get multiple offers, average is at least $20 to start, overtime is guaranteed, good benefits, great career growth, etc. Even better if you get into an apprenticeship such as Ironworkers, etc. Within several years can be making close to six figures or more...retirement pay is currently 12K *per month*...hard work but life can be very sweet if you've a good work ethic.
> On 7/11/2021 8:37 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > They can earn
> > a lot more money by learning a skilled trade and they'll have no debt,
> > not ever.
> I don't understand why people don't push trade schools like they do
> college. In a year or so, you can make $20+ an hour with raises,
> sometimes far better starting.
Currently there is a shortage of ___400,000___ welders in the US, needless to say manufacturers are crying for employees, many are having to scale back growth because they simply don't have the staff to expand...
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GM
bruce bowser
Jul 12, 2021, 6:05:07 AM7/12/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 12, 2021, 8:54:21 AM7/12/21
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about it. But you can tell they take pride in their work.
My husband spent his career working with his hands and his brain in electro-optics
laboratories. He did very well on an inexpensive associate's degree.
His brother started out as a welder and ended up as a technical rep for a company
that made sugar-cane harvesting equipment. He, too, took pride in a job well done.
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski
Jul 12, 2021, 9:53:37 AM7/12/21
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Dance and a load of debt. A few years back, it seems society declared
you need a college degree.
Ed Pawlowski
Jul 12, 2021, 9:58:26 AM7/12/21
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successful too.
bruce bowser
Jul 12, 2021, 10:17:50 AM7/12/21
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Ed Pawlowski
Jul 12, 2021, 1:12:42 PM7/12/21
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works with his hand, owns his own business with high income, and has
extensive real estate holdings?
Bruce 2.0
Jul 12, 2021, 3:15:04 PM7/12/21
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Bruce 2.0
Jul 12, 2021, 3:15:26 PM7/12/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 12, 2021, 3:25:15 PM7/12/21
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staggering debt and poor job prospects. The days when any bachelor's degree
was valued by employers are long gone.
People who would in decades past have found a good, satisfying job without
a college degree are herded into college prep courses. Not all of them do
well, nor do they end up going to college. They would have been better served
by a meaningful vocational education program.
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce 2.0
Jul 12, 2021, 3:32:58 PM7/12/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 12, 2021, 3:44:00 PM7/12/21
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boatload of my classmates knew they were headed for a secure, well-paying
job working the line at either Ford or General Motors. The ones who wanted
something a little more challenging took electronics or metal shop and participated
in the vocational education program, which got them out into real businesses. Only
a small fraction of my graduating class went to college.
Cindy Hamilton
GM
Jul 12, 2021, 3:53:16 PM7/12/21
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Some are already buying homes and new cars for cash, saving/investing for the future, they've no debt - and especially no college loan debt...
Many of these came from very "modest" backgrounds, a good number of them are ex - felons...manufacturing provides them a good career with security...
Others wasted time getting useless liberal arts degrees, after years of waiting tables or working dead - end retail, they applied themselves and got useful manufacturing skills...more should eschew an expensive degree, absolutely not needed to live "the good life"...
I don't know what anyone could "strive for more in life"...and they aren't "bragging", they are too busy working hard and enjoying life...
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GM
Bruce 2.0
Jul 12, 2021, 3:56:07 PM7/12/21
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anthropology and sociology. Only to become tax inspectors or
programmers later on.
You don't have to be very smart to finish uni studies, but you do need
a bit of a working brain. And you have to be able to sit still and
read something every now and then. With those qualities you'll always
find work, although maybe not in the field you studied.
Sheldon Martin
Jul 12, 2021, 4:23:32 PM7/12/21
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hated working with sick people for little money so returned to my
trade as a Tool & Diemaker. It was hard physical work in dirty
conditions but paid well. What good is a white collar job if it
doesnt pay enough to live a decent life.
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 12, 2021, 4:30:01 PM7/12/21
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How Much Does a Radiologic Technologist Make? Radiologic Technologists made a median salary of $60,510 in 2019. The best-paid 25 percent made $74,660 that year, while the lowest-paid 25 percent made $49,580.
$60,510 is pretty good in these parts. Not so good in Manhattan or San Francisco.
> so returned to my
> trade as a Tool & Diemaker. It was hard physical work in dirty
> conditions but paid well. What good is a white collar job if it
> doesnt pay enough to live a decent life.
rather than a white collar job. I finished my degree in Computer Science,
which is a much better-paying career.
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski
Jul 12, 2021, 4:31:26 PM7/12/21
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mean you will find a good job though. Engineering? Sure. Medicine?
Great. Sculpture? Not so much.
You can have advanced degrees in some of the arts and not qualify for
mail boy in the office. If you do go to college take courses that lead
to a good life ahead and not things that may be nice to know but can't
earn money.
Not sure who is to blame, parents, guidance counselors or maybe some of
both. You need more than book learning to make a living. Amazing how
many well degreed people end up as cab drivers, truck drivers, fast food
cooks.
As for Bruce's chip/shoulder, I ended up doing what I wanted to do. In
high school I thought I wanted to be an accountant but I got a job that
exposed me to manufacturing and was hooked. In my career I managed a
couple of different companies and liked what I was doing. Night school
for four years, no degree.
Oh, my first job was the mail boy. I got an amazing education where I
worked as it got me to every department I learned things from
observation that I used years later.
Sheldon Martin
Jul 12, 2021, 4:37:00 PM7/12/21
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:29:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
At that time an X-Ray Technition was paid about 30 K per year, a T&D
person was paid twice as much.
person was paid twice as much.
Bruce 2.0
Jul 12, 2021, 4:39:49 PM7/12/21
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:31:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>Exactly. Sure, education overall is a good thing. A degree does not
>mean you will find a good job though. Engineering? Sure. Medicine?
>Great. Sculpture? Not so much.
The closest uni study to "Sculpture" that I can think of is Art
>Exactly. Sure, education overall is a good thing. A degree does not
>mean you will find a good job though. Engineering? Sure. Medicine?
>Great. Sculpture? Not so much.
History. The one person I know who studied that, has a well paid job
in a museum.
>You can have advanced degrees in some of the arts and not qualify for
>mail boy in the office. If you do go to college take courses that lead
>to a good life ahead and not things that may be nice to know but can't
>earn money.
>
>Not sure who is to blame, parents, guidance counselors or maybe some of
>both. You need more than book learning to make a living. Amazing how
>many well degreed people end up as cab drivers, truck drivers, fast food
>cooks.
ended up as cab drivers, truck drivers or fast food cooks.
Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
describe.
Bruce 2.O
Jul 12, 2021, 4:46:35 PM7/12/21
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On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 6:22:02 AM UTC-5, BRUkanarie wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 07:13:02 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
> infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
I'm not an asshole. Tell me when I was an asshole.
And why do you never react when people say really nasty things here?
RFC: For all your double standards.
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 07:13:02 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
> infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
I'm not an asshole. Tell me when I was an asshole.
And why do you never react when people say really nasty things here?
RFC: For all your double standards.
Michael Trew
Jul 12, 2021, 11:55:10 PM7/12/21
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On 7/12/2021 4:39 PM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
> Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
> describe.
These are the type of regular posts that you make that look extremely
> Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
> describe.
condescending..
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 12:07:06 AM7/13/21
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 23:55:06 -0400, Michael Trew <mt99...@ymail.com>
wrote:
You deleted what you're replying to, so beats me.
wrote:
Michael Trew
Jul 13, 2021, 12:43:53 AM7/13/21
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using a normal newsreader?
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 1:58:06 AM7/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 00:43:49 -0400, Michael Trew <mt99...@ymail.com>
was something Ed said, but I forgot what it was exactly.
wrote:
>On 7/13/2021 12:06 AM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 23:55:06 -0400, Michael Trew<mt99...@ymail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/12/2021 4:39 PM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>>> Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
>>>> describe.
>>>
>>> These are the type of regular posts that you make that look extremely
>>> condescending..
>>
>> You deleted what you're replying to, so beats me.
>
>
>You can't see the prior posts directly above this one? Are you not
>using a normal newsreader?
Yeah, I meant to say that you deleted what _I_ replied to. I think it
>On 7/13/2021 12:06 AM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 23:55:06 -0400, Michael Trew<mt99...@ymail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/12/2021 4:39 PM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>>> Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
>>>> describe.
>>>
>>> These are the type of regular posts that you make that look extremely
>>> condescending..
>>
>> You deleted what you're replying to, so beats me.
>
>
>You can't see the prior posts directly above this one? Are you not
>using a normal newsreader?
was something Ed said, but I forgot what it was exactly.
bruce bowser
Jul 13, 2021, 2:58:04 AM7/13/21
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> As for Bruce's chip/shoulder, I ended up doing what I wanted to do. In
> high school I thought I wanted to be an accountant but I got a job that
> exposed me to manufacturing and was hooked. In my career I managed a
> couple of different companies and liked what I was doing. Night school
> for four years, no degree.
If you just STOP dead in the water, then its working with your hands - shit work.
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 13, 2021, 5:19:47 AM7/13/21
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is required to be hired as a cab driver. Waiters can skate by with
a bachelor's or master's degree.
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 13, 2021, 5:23:42 AM7/13/21
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When was the last time you _made_ anything, and derived satisfaction
from seeing the fruits of your labors?
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 5:32:54 AM7/13/21
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reality. The little differences.
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 5:39:14 AM7/13/21
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electrician, doctor, police person, mechanic etc. is quite admirable.
>When was the last time you _made_ anything, and derived satisfaction
>from seeing the fruits of your labors?
prolonged drought or subtropical rains the nest would fall down,
sometimes with chicks already in it. So we bought a nest and I
drilled/screwed it into the wall at the exact same spot. I was quite
proud when the swallows actually started using it. It's the little
things.
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 5:45:57 AM7/13/21
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Bruce 2.O
Jul 13, 2021, 9:19:43 AM7/13/21
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On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 2:50:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 9:36:03 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
> >
> > Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
> > All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
> > east and africa.
> > Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
> > a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
> > if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
> > 'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
> > mommies.
> Please stop spreading fake information. That dumb ass is not an American! The rfc whining and complaints department is also cracking down on posters that insist on posting pointless and/or non-uplifting, material. Please re-write your post to reflect the new rfc guidelines and resubmit it to the RFCW&C committee. Yoose has 5 days to comply - or else!
I thought it was someone who passes golf clubs to you while you're
having a shower.
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 9:36:03 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
> >
> > Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
> > >Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
> > >infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
> > Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
> > >infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
> > All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
> > east and africa.
> > Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
> > a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
> > if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
> > 'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
> > mommies.
> Please stop spreading fake information. That dumb ass is not an American! The rfc whining and complaints department is also cracking down on posters that insist on posting pointless and/or non-uplifting, material. Please re-write your post to reflect the new rfc guidelines and resubmit it to the RFCW&C committee. Yoose has 5 days to comply - or else!
I thought it was someone who passes golf clubs to you while you're
having a shower.
Ed Pawlowski
Jul 13, 2021, 9:23:39 AM7/13/21
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particular education. Especially when kids take courses they like but
have no future. If 5000 students take dance, or acting, how many end up
with paying jobs using those skills? Very few. The rest struggle.
4980 of them would have been better off learning a business course.
College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
earn a living in life.
Michael Trew
Jul 13, 2021, 11:46:56 AM7/13/21
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On 7/13/2021 1:57 AM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
> Yeah, I meant to say that you deleted what _I_ replied to. I think it
> was something Ed said, but I forgot what it was exactly.
Repost:
> Yeah, I meant to say that you deleted what _I_ replied to. I think it
> was something Ed said, but I forgot what it was exactly.
Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
describe.
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describe.
I'm not going to keep digging it into the ground. What I'm referencing
is just constant jabs at "stupid Americans" (almost every other post)...
it gets kind of old, and comes off as very snooty and unbecoming.
bruce bowser
Jul 13, 2021, 12:05:50 PM7/13/21
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I've worked on several construction sites. At night, kids go there and trash the place. Sometimes, dogs go in there at night and take a crap and you hope that the building materials aren't too close by. The term "shit work" isn't an illusion.
> When was the last time you _made_ anything, and derived satisfaction
> from seeing the fruits of your labors?
Ed Pawlowski
Jul 13, 2021, 12:58:33 PM7/13/21
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good feeling of satisfaction. Some from things I made, like furniture.
Some was from solving problems for customers, but many were just from
helping others.
Hank Rogers
Jul 13, 2021, 1:44:17 PM7/13/21
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GM
Jul 13, 2021, 1:48:34 PM7/13/21
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*That's* why she is considered a troll...not to mention her frogging of Dave Smith, etc., etc., etc....
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GM
bruce bowser
Jul 13, 2021, 1:55:42 PM7/13/21
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bruce bowser
Jul 13, 2021, 2:02:01 PM7/13/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 13, 2021, 2:20:23 PM7/13/21
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On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 12:05:50 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > When was the last time you _made_ anything, and derived satisfaction
> > from seeing the fruits of your labors?
> I never had self-satisfaction from anything except maybe having a few drinks overseas somewhere at a discotheque, maybe.
That's really sad.
> > When was the last time you _made_ anything, and derived satisfaction
> > from seeing the fruits of your labors?
> I never had self-satisfaction from anything except maybe having a few drinks overseas somewhere at a discotheque, maybe.
Cindy Hamilton
GM
Jul 13, 2021, 3:26:06 PM7/13/21
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GM
bruce bowser
Jul 13, 2021, 4:03:46 PM7/13/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 13, 2021, 4:17:30 PM7/13/21
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<https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57673/to-be-of-use>
And a longer essay:
<http://faculty.wwu.edu/dunnc3/rprnts.TheCaseforWorkingWithYourHands-NYTimes.com.pdf>
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 4:56:19 PM7/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:46:53 -0400, Michael Trew <mt99...@ymail.com>
wrote:
>Repost:
>
> >On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:31:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
> > >Not sure who is to blame, parents, guidance counselors or maybe some of
> > >both. You need more than book learning to make a living. Amazing how
> > >many well degreed people end up as cab drivers, truck drivers, fast
> > >food cooks.
>Bruce 2.0:
> >Most of the people I know have a university degree and none of them
> >ended up as cab drivers, truck drivers or fast food cooks.
>
> >Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
> >describe.
>
>---------------------------------------------
>
>I'm not going to keep digging it into the ground. What I'm referencing
>is just constant jabs at "stupid Americans" (almost every other post)...
>it gets kind of old, and comes off as very snooty and unbecoming.
Yes, I try not to do it too often, but it's hard!
This isn't a good example, though. I said that either Ed has a limited
view of things (thinking that people with a degree often end up as cab
drivers etc.) or that he was right and he described American reality.
There's no criticism of the US there. For once, I plead innocent.
wrote:
>Repost:
>
> >On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:31:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
> > >Not sure who is to blame, parents, guidance counselors or maybe some of
> > >both. You need more than book learning to make a living. Amazing how
> > >many well degreed people end up as cab drivers, truck drivers, fast
> > >food cooks.
> >Most of the people I know have a university degree and none of them
> >ended up as cab drivers, truck drivers or fast food cooks.
>
> >Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is like you
> >describe.
>
>---------------------------------------------
>
>I'm not going to keep digging it into the ground. What I'm referencing
>is just constant jabs at "stupid Americans" (almost every other post)...
>it gets kind of old, and comes off as very snooty and unbecoming.
This isn't a good example, though. I said that either Ed has a limited
view of things (thinking that people with a degree often end up as cab
drivers etc.) or that he was right and he described American reality.
There's no criticism of the US there. For once, I plead innocent.
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 5:00:30 PM7/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 09:23:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>On 7/13/2021 5:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> It's something of a joke in Ann Arbor that a PhD in the humanities
>> is required to be hired as a cab driver. Waiters can skate by with
>> a bachelor's or master's degree.
>>
>On 7/13/2021 5:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> It's something of a joke in Ann Arbor that a PhD in the humanities
>> is required to be hired as a cab driver. Waiters can skate by with
>> a bachelor's or master's degree.
>>
>Fact is, we have more college graduates than there are jobs needing that
>particular education. Especially when kids take courses they like but
>have no future. If 5000 students take dance, or acting, how many end up
>with paying jobs using those skills? Very few. The rest struggle.
>4980 of them would have been better off learning a business course.
>
>College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>earn a living in life.
Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>particular education. Especially when kids take courses they like but
>have no future. If 5000 students take dance, or acting, how many end up
>with paying jobs using those skills? Very few. The rest struggle.
>4980 of them would have been better off learning a business course.
>
>College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>earn a living in life.
has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
moralising. There's more to life.
jmcquown
Jul 13, 2021, 6:02:35 PM7/13/21
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general? It appears he actually believes everyone in the USA overloads
on sugar-laden soft drinks and "sweet tea" on a daily basis and that we
eat nothing but crappy fast food, too. Haven't you noticed he
studiously avoids replying to new threads that involve actual
food/cooking or recipes? That is, unless it provides the opportunity to
rail against eating meat.
Jill
Bruce 2.0
Jul 13, 2021, 6:13:04 PM7/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 18:02:25 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Doesn't everybody have their own posting style? Your posting style
evolves for 90% around bashing John. John's posting style evolves
around posting unimportant little facts of his daily life. And so on.
Of those 3 styles, only yours is damaging.
wrote:
evolves for 90% around bashing John. John's posting style evolves
around posting unimportant little facts of his daily life. And so on.
Of those 3 styles, only yours is damaging.
Hank Rogers
Jul 13, 2021, 7:02:14 PM7/13/21
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/13/2021 11:46 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 7/13/2021 1:57 AM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I meant to say that you deleted what _I_ replied to. I
>>> think it
>>> was something Ed said, but I forgot what it was exactly.
>>
>> Repost:
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:31:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > >Exactly. Sure, education overall is a good thing. A
> On 7/13/2021 11:46 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 7/13/2021 1:57 AM, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I meant to say that you deleted what _I_ replied to. I
>>> think it
>>> was something Ed said, but I forgot what it was exactly.
>>
>> Repost:
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:31:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> degree does not
>> > >mean you will find a good job though. Engineering? Sure.Â
>> Medicine?
>> > >Great. Sculpture? Not so much.
>> The closest uni study to "Sculpture" that I can think of is Art
>> History. The one person I know who studied that, has a well paid job
>> in a museum.
>>
>> > >You can have advanced degrees in some of the arts and not
>> qualify for
>> > >mail boy in the office. If you do go to college take
>> History. The one person I know who studied that, has a well paid job
>> in a museum.
>>
>> > >You can have advanced degrees in some of the arts and not
>> qualify for
>> courses that lead
>> > >to a good life ahead and not things that may be nice to know
>> but can't
>> > >earn money.
>> > >
>> > >Not sure who is to blame, parents, guidance counselors or
>> maybe some of
>> > >both. You need more than book learning to make a living.
>> Amazing how
>> > >many well degreed people end up as cab drivers, truck
>> drivers, fast food
>> > >cooks.
>> Most of the people I know have a university degree and none of them
>> ended up as cab drivers, truck drivers or fast food cooks.
>>
>> Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is
>> like you
>> describe.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> I'm not going to keep digging it into the ground. What I'm
>> > >to a good life ahead and not things that may be nice to know
>> but can't
>> > >earn money.
>> > >
>> > >Not sure who is to blame, parents, guidance counselors or
>> maybe some of
>> > >both. You need more than book learning to make a living.
>> Amazing how
>> > >many well degreed people end up as cab drivers, truck
>> drivers, fast food
>> > >cooks.
>> Most of the people I know have a university degree and none of them
>> ended up as cab drivers, truck drivers or fast food cooks.
>>
>> Your view of things is very narrow unless American reality is
>> like you
>> describe.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> referencing is just constant jabs at "stupid Americans" (almost
>> every other post)... it gets kind of old, and comes off as very
>> snooty and unbecoming.
>
> You're just now figuring out Bruce loves to bash the USA/Usians in
> general? It appears he actually believes everyone in the USA
> overloads on sugar-laden soft drinks and "sweet tea" on a daily
> basis and that we eat nothing but crappy fast food, too. Haven't
> you noticed he studiously avoids replying to new threads that
> involve actual food/cooking or recipes? That is, unless it
> provides the opportunity to rail against eating meat.
>
> Jill
He's going to have to get used to master druce sniffing his ass.
>> every other post)... it gets kind of old, and comes off as very
>> snooty and unbecoming.
>
> You're just now figuring out Bruce loves to bash the USA/Usians in
> general? It appears he actually believes everyone in the USA
> overloads on sugar-laden soft drinks and "sweet tea" on a daily
> basis and that we eat nothing but crappy fast food, too. Haven't
> you noticed he studiously avoids replying to new threads that
> involve actual food/cooking or recipes? That is, unless it
> provides the opportunity to rail against eating meat.
>
> Jill
Michael Trew
Jul 13, 2021, 11:28:35 PM7/13/21
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On 7/13/2021 6:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> You're just now figuring out Bruce loves to bash the USA/Usians in
> general? It appears he actually believes everyone in the USA overloads
> on sugar-laden soft drinks and "sweet tea" on a daily basis and that we
> eat nothing but crappy fast food, too. Haven't you noticed he
> studiously avoids replying to new threads that involve actual
> food/cooking or recipes? That is, unless it provides the opportunity to
> rail against eating meat.
>
> Jill
Well, when 90% of the posts were "ask them", I marked every one "read"
> You're just now figuring out Bruce loves to bash the USA/Usians in
> general? It appears he actually believes everyone in the USA overloads
> on sugar-laden soft drinks and "sweet tea" on a daily basis and that we
> eat nothing but crappy fast food, too. Haven't you noticed he
> studiously avoids replying to new threads that involve actual
> food/cooking or recipes? That is, unless it provides the opportunity to
> rail against eating meat.
>
> Jill
without glancing... I suppose I've only started reading them recently.
Bruce 2.0
Jul 14, 2021, 1:49:15 AM7/14/21
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:28:32 -0400, Michael Trew <mt99...@ymail.com>
wrote:
I hope you make a distinction between me and that rabid stalker troll
that produced all the "Ask them" posts and that made a reappearance
through Google Groups very recently.
wrote:
that produced all the "Ask them" posts and that made a reappearance
through Google Groups very recently.
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 14, 2021, 4:46:06 AM7/14/21
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food. Small comfort when you're working for $7.25 per hour and living
in mom's basement.
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce 2.0
Jul 14, 2021, 4:54:33 AM7/14/21
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Ed Pawlowski
Jul 14, 2021, 10:32:46 AM7/14/21
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> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>>
>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>>> earn a living in life.
>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>> moralising. There's more to life.
food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
I have hobbies, I've traveled, I've hopefully done things that made the
world a little better but I was able to do them because I had the
resources to enjoy them.
Daddy didn't leave me enough to live and put a new slate roof on the
house so I had to get a job. I got a good one.
If you want to take dance classes, take a minimum wage job because you
have no skills and be in debt for years with student loans, that is YOUR
choice. Don't expect relief from taxpayers for your poor decisions.
Michael Trew
Jul 14, 2021, 12:26:35 PM7/14/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 14, 2021, 12:48:05 PM7/14/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Graham
Jul 14, 2021, 12:56:05 PM7/14/21
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GM
Jul 14, 2021, 1:23:46 PM7/14/21
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Acts 14:17
“ '… Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying your hearts with food and gladness.’ ”
Ephesians 4:32
“Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.”
Colossians 3:12-13
“Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.”
Proverbs 31:26
“She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue.”
</>
Bruce 2.0
Jul 14, 2021, 3:46:08 PM7/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 12:26:33 -0400, Michael Trew <mt99...@ymail.com>
A very poor web interface to Usenet, that's only used by clueless
people and by people who are too lazy to install a real news reader.
Two random characteristics of Google Groups: it makes way too long
lines (unless the user presses Enter regularly, but most are too
clueless) and it lacks the ability to killfile.
https://groups.google.com
people and by people who are too lazy to install a real news reader.
Two random characteristics of Google Groups: it makes way too long
lines (unless the user presses Enter regularly, but most are too
clueless) and it lacks the ability to killfile.
https://groups.google.com
Bruce 2.0
Jul 14, 2021, 3:49:45 PM7/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:32:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>>>> earn a living in life.
>>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>>> moralising. There's more to life.
>
>There certainly is. How do you get them? You have to have shelter and
>food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
I've never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>>>> earn a living in life.
>>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>>> moralising. There's more to life.
>
>There certainly is. How do you get them? You have to have shelter and
>food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
>I have hobbies, I've traveled, I've hopefully done things that made the
>world a little better but I was able to do them because I had the
>resources to enjoy them.
>
>Daddy didn't leave me enough to live and put a new slate roof on the
>house so I had to get a job. I got a good one.
>
>If you want to take dance classes, take a minimum wage job because you
>have no skills and be in debt for years with student loans, that is YOUR
>choice. Don't expect relief from taxpayers for your poor decisions.
sound like a crime.
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 14, 2021, 4:13:34 PM7/14/21
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On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:32:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
> >>>> earn a living in life.
> >>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
> >>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
> >>> moralising. There's more to life.
> >
> >There certainly is. How do you get them? You have to have shelter and
> >food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
> I've never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
> You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
> the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
Have a health problem and end up as a homeless bum.
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:32:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
> >>>> earn a living in life.
> >>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
> >>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
> >>> moralising. There's more to life.
> >
> >There certainly is. How do you get them? You have to have shelter and
> >food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
> I've never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
> You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
> the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
Things are very precarious in the U.S. Half a million people are homeless.
44 million are below the poverty line. The poverty line is pretty poor:
<https://aspe.hhs.gov/2021-poverty-guidelines>
35 years ago I was grossing about $13,000. It wasn't much, but I
kept my head above water. I can't imagine getting by on so little
nowadays. The average rent in the county in which I live is a little
more than $1300 per month.
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce 2.0
Jul 14, 2021, 4:23:55 PM7/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:32:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>> >>>> earn a living in life.
>> >>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>> >>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>> >>> moralising. There's more to life.
>> >
>> >There certainly is. How do you get them? You have to have shelter and
>> >food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
>> I've never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
>> You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
>> the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
>
>Have a health problem and end up as a homeless bum.
There are exceptions, but generally speaking and in countries I'm used
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:32:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> College is good, just take courses that will help you do something to
>> >>>> earn a living in life.
>> >>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>> >>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>> >>> moralising. There's more to life.
>> >
>> >There certainly is. How do you get them? You have to have shelter and
>> >food to live so once you take care of them you can enjoy the others.
>> I've never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
>> You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
>> the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
>
>Have a health problem and end up as a homeless bum.
to, you only end up homeless if you are addicted or have very serious
mental problems.
Why is everything so bad in the US?
Bruce 2.O
Jul 14, 2021, 4:37:42 PM7/14/21
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On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 2:50:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 9:36:03 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
> >
> > Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
> > >Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
> > >infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
> > Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
> > All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
> > east and africa.
> > Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
> > a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
> > if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
> > 'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
> > mommies.
> Please stop spreading fake information. That dumb ass is not an American! The rfc whining and complaints department is also cracking down on posters that insist on posting pointless and/or non-uplifting, material. Please re-write your post to reflect the new rfc guidelines and resubmit it to the RFCW&C committee. Yoose has 5 days to comply - or else!
Good. Admitting that you have a problem is always the first step to
solving it.
Group bullying is one of the lowest forms of social behaviour. Did I
already say you're a coward? Just to be on the safe side: You're a
coward :)
No condescending posts, please.
It depends if they have the choice. They don't always. If you have a
brain and can prove that, you'll find acceptable work.
Graham is a vat full of the anecdotal and he almost knows as many
people as Dave.
Was that condescending too?
I don't know what you mean.
He's being group bullied. I hate that. Adults should know better.
Huh? We're talking about innocent dance classes, right? You make it
sound like a crime.
Was that condescending too?
I hope you make a distinction between me and that rabid stalker troll
that produced all the "Ask them" posts and that made a reappearance
through Google Groups very recently.
No condescending posts, please.
This is becoming a self help group for people who don't know when to
take a leak.
I thought it was someone who passes golf clubs to you while you're
having a shower.
I’ve never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
It's a spontaneous group. Don't play dumb.
No condescending posts, please.
It's creepy to see you suck up to him. It's a sign of an uncouth
character flaw.
Join the group then.
Fiscal survival, lol. We're really talking from two sides of a huge
cultural gap. Americans: sugar and money.
Was that condescending too?
Science is a work in progress. People without a scientific background
are often unable to understand that.
No condescending posts, please.
I never wanted to become a teacher. Then I studied French at uni. That
only realistically leads to becoming a French teacher. I became a
programmer.
What are show flies?
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 9:36:03 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 BRUkanarie wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 09 Jul 2021 Sheldon Martin rote:
> >
> > Your dumb ass wrote "rote"
> > >Sorry, but I find those two words in one post title offensive and an
> > >infringement of the 3rd Amendment.
> > Proving that you're one of the many American morons.
> > All yoose damned dems need to be shipped (one way) back to the middle
> > east and africa.
> > Reperatons, yoose dumb asses, your own peeps sold you into slavery for
> > a few shiney beads. Yoose want reparations, ask your mommy and daddy,
> > if yoose even know who your daddy is. Even today the majority of
> > 'colored' teens have no idea who their daddy is and neither do their
> > mommies.
> Please stop spreading fake information. That dumb ass is not an American! The rfc whining and complaints department is also cracking down on posters that insist on posting pointless and/or non-uplifting, material. Please re-write your post to reflect the new rfc guidelines and resubmit it to the RFCW&C committee. Yoose has 5 days to comply - or else!
Good. Admitting that you have a problem is always the first step to
solving it.
Group bullying is one of the lowest forms of social behaviour. Did I
already say you're a coward? Just to be on the safe side: You're a
coward :)
No condescending posts, please.
It depends if they have the choice. They don't always. If you have a
brain and can prove that, you'll find acceptable work.
Graham is a vat full of the anecdotal and he almost knows as many
people as Dave.
Was that condescending too?
I don't know what you mean.
He's being group bullied. I hate that. Adults should know better.
Huh? We're talking about innocent dance classes, right? You make it
sound like a crime.
I hope you make a distinction between me and that rabid stalker troll
that produced all the "Ask them" posts and that made a reappearance
through Google Groups very recently.
This is becoming a self help group for people who don't know when to
take a leak.
I thought it was someone who passes golf clubs to you while you're
having a shower.
I’ve never worried about these things and I still ended up alright.
You sound all doom and gloom, but maybe things are that precarious in
the US. Take the wrong course and you end up a homeless bum.
No condescending posts, please.
It's creepy to see you suck up to him. It's a sign of an uncouth
character flaw.
Join the group then.
Fiscal survival, lol. We're really talking from two sides of a huge
cultural gap. Americans: sugar and money.
Was that condescending too?
Science is a work in progress. People without a scientific background
are often unable to understand that.
No condescending posts, please.
I never wanted to become a teacher. Then I studied French at uni. That
only realistically leads to becoming a French teacher. I became a
programmer.
What are show flies?
jmcquown
Jul 14, 2021, 5:57:05 PM7/14/21
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it! ;)
Like many people my age, I took ballet & tap when I was a kid. I have
'two left feet' but in those days lots of mothers signed their kids up
for dance classes. I only ever met one girl who was very, very good at
it. She had been taking ballet lessons since she was three. Both her
father and mine were stationed in Bangkok and we attended grade school
together at ages nine & ten. We kept in touch for years, despite our
father's being transferred to different places. In her late teens she
was invited to audition for and was asked to join the New York City
Ballet Company. AFAIK, she danced with the company for a number of
years and later became a dance instructor. I truly don't know if she
ever got a college degree. I do know she was being paid to do something
she loved and it wasn't the same wage as a burger flipper with a useless
college degree.
Jill
Bruce 2.2
Jul 14, 2021, 6:02:45 PM7/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:56:56 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>On 7/14/2021 4:46 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>>> moralising. There's more to life.
>>
>> Sure, there's more to life if you have enough money to pay rent and buy
>> food. Small comfort when you're working for $7.25 per hour and living
>> in mom's basement.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>But hey, they learned how to dance and got a piece of paper to show for
>it! ;)
>
>Like many people my age, I took ballet & tap when I was a kid.
OMG, were you not worried about fiscal survival?
wrote:
>On 7/14/2021 4:46 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:00:30 PM UTC-4, Bruce 2.0 wrote:
>>> Maybe they had fun during their dancing or acting courses. Everything
>>> has to be useful for you and must lead to jobs and money. It's so
>>> moralising. There's more to life.
>>
>> Sure, there's more to life if you have enough money to pay rent and buy
>> food. Small comfort when you're working for $7.25 per hour and living
>> in mom's basement.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>But hey, they learned how to dance and got a piece of paper to show for
>it! ;)
>
>Like many people my age, I took ballet & tap when I was a kid.
Bruce 2.O
Jul 14, 2021, 10:20:45 PM7/14/21
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What are show flies?
No bullying, please. No condescending posts, please. RFC is supposed to be a nurturing, inclusive environment.
Bruce's raison d'etre is to take pot shots at posters. It got tiring really fast, but it bothers the hell of him when people ignore him. He must be seen.
As you do after someone's been buried.
Are naked people smellier?
Thanks for the attention, Dave. I thrive on it
You just don't get it, Gary. Orange man bad. That's all you need to know.
I'm not an asshole. Tell me when I was an asshole. And why do you never react when people say really nasty things here? RFC: For all your double standards.
Isn't that what y'all want?
The term dead spread alone. It seems to me that you're all a bunch of vultures that can't wait for someone to die so you can have a good feed. Really, really creepy and weird :)
Oh, the little cultural differences…
Amen. It's sick, cowardly and despicable. Just to name a few.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Just repeating information served to you.
Jean Cuthe and Bryanne Simmonse?
Says the guy posting as a girl.
If they saw Jesus walking down the street, they'd go "Marxist!" and put him in jail.
That's very nasty. He can be as interesting as he wants, but he's posting under my name. If you can't see what's wrong with that, you're a sociopathic retard.
The real Bruce posts with Eternal Smugness
Thanks for sharing
What's more curiouser is you're too spineless to just come out and say it. Make an accusation but not commit to it. Says it all, really
Do you think the world's average IQ will have gone up a bit after the pandemic will be over?
Was that condescending too?
Thanks for the attention, Dave. I thrive on it
Uh-huh. You're obtuse as fuck.
Netcop? You're always warning everybody for trolls that aren't trolls:) Detective McQuown is always on the case!
OMG, were you not worried about fiscal survival?
The plot thickens considerably
There are exceptions, but generally speaking and in countries I'm used to, you only end up homeless if you are addicted or have very serious mental problems.
Why is everything so bad in the US?
There's no criticism of the US there. For once, I plead innocent.
Was that condescending too?
Reminds me of snake handlers. Isn't that in Virginia? People handling deadly snakes because the Lord will protect them. Religion can do strange things to the human mind.
I don't know what you mean.
Do you also keep hearing a voice with a German accent telling you it's time to start the class struggle?
That was my stalker troll
What a pig. Didn't they have to pay a bond or something, that you can now not refund to them?
I don't see a thing in the sky, but if you did, it must be a drone from the Marxist government, checking on the distribution of thought control medication.
If more people took DNA tests, there would be a lot more half siblings.
I sure have. One day I might rely on it.
Congrats. Now we sit back to watch the side effects........I heard that some people became hetero after the jab, beware!
Sorry, I didn't mean that in a condescending way. Maybe you really believe that they saw an angel in the grave
A very poor web interface to Usenet, that's only used by clueless people and by people who are too lazy to install a real news reader. Two random characteristics of Google Groups: it makes way too long lines (unless the user presses Enter regularly, but most are too clueless) and it lacks the ability to killfile.
Was that condescending too?
I've spelled cemetary most of my life, but it's actually cemetery.
What are show flies?
Ask them, they’re here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
Michael Trew
Jul 15, 2021, 1:33:50 AM7/15/21
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I'm here for the nostalgic purpose of Usenet. Might as well be on a web
forum if you're going to deal with that stuff.
Michael Trew
Jul 15, 2021, 1:34:45 AM7/15/21
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product.
My much preferred alternative: www.duckduckgo.com
Bruce 2.2
Jul 15, 2021, 1:35:21 AM7/15/21
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Michael Trew
Jul 15, 2021, 1:41:10 AM7/15/21
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known it... if you live within your means, I guess that isn't an issue.
My house cost less than 2 months of rent in your area, and I own it
now... $600-some odd dollars for property tax annually. People that
choose to live in expensive areas puzzle me. I'll stay where anyone can
afford to live, even on a McDonald's salary.
Michael Trew
Jul 15, 2021, 1:45:12 AM7/15/21
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in a decent neighborhood, nice neighbors, and houses can be purchased
for a pittance compared to other parts of the country. No hurricanes,
no earthquakes, no tornadoes... relatively mild winters and summers... I
don't get why people flock to leave this area. Maybe they like to be
punished?
Bruce 2.2
Jul 15, 2021, 1:52:00 AM7/15/21
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dsi1
Jul 15, 2021, 3:28:25 AM7/15/21
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