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A Report From the Front
Positive, life-saving news from the trenches that’s going unreported by
those fearful of ending the lockdown.
George Parry by GEORGE PARRY
May 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

Ever since President Trump expressed optimism about the use of
hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, the mere mention of that drug can
elicit instantaneous, strident, and finger-wagging condemnation by the
mainstream media and all those who are pulling for the pandemic to lay
waste to the economy and pave the way for a fundamental progressive
transformation of America. Despite its use by health-care providers
across the country and around the world to successfully treat COVID-19,
you will be mocked as either a fool or a snake oil salesman if you
approvingly utter the word “hydroxychloroquine” or even express hope
that it can be used to save lives. The word is simply not to be
tolerated in polite, progressive society.

Well, it appears that the list of forbidden words is about to get
longer. The new additions include “corticosteroids” and
“Methylprednisolone.”

What do these widely available and relatively inexpensive drugs with
known safety profiles have in common with hydroxychloroquine? Leading
physicians are using them in addition to hydroxychloroquine to
successfully treat COVID-19. And they are doing so without waiting two
or three years for the results of randomized clinical trials.

On April 6, 2020, the aptly named “Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care
Consortium” issued a bulletin urging the “immediate adoption of [an]
early intervention protocol to prevent mortality and reduce the use of
ventilators from COVID-19 disease.” The consortium consists of leading
critical care specialists from the University of Wisconsin School of
Medicine & Public Health, the University of Texas Health Science
Center, the University of Tennessee Health Science Center, Manhattan’s
Lenox Hill Hospital, the Eastern Virginia Medical School, and other
equally distinguished medical schools and centers.


Based on the available research and “their decades-long professional
experiences in Intensive Care Units around the country,” these experts
“strongly urge fellow physicians to immediately adopt a change in
strategy by delivering powerful [anti-inflammatory] therapies earlier
in the [COVID-19] disease course, prior to admission to the ICU or the
need for a mechanical ventilator.”

COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. So, is this new drug
strategy calculated to eradicate the virus or reduce the patient’s
viral load? Not at all, but, as these experts explain, that is quite
beside the point.

One of the consortium members is Dr. Pierre Kory, the Medical Director
of the Trauma and Life Support Center and Chief of the Critical Care
Service at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. In the bulletin, he
explains that “it is the severe inflammation sparked by the
Coronavirus, not the virus itself, that kills patients. Inflammation
causes a new variety of Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS),
which damages the lungs.”

As spelled out in the consortium’s bulletin, the key to the new
treatment strategy is the early and prompt use of hydroxychloroquine
(which is also prescribed to reduce inflammation in lupus and
rheumatoid arthritis patients) and/or corticosteroids such as
Methylprednisolone to reduce the inflammation caused by the
coronavirus.

On April 20, 2020, Dr. Paul Marik, Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care
Medicine at the Eastern Virginia Medical School, published a Critical
Care COVID-19 Management Protocol based on the consortium’s findings.
In the protocol, he states the following:

Scientific Rational[e] for Treatment Protocol

Three core pathologic processes lead to multi-organ failure and death
in COVID-19:

Hyper-inflammation (“Cytokine storm”) – a dysregulated immune system
whose cells infiltrate and damage multiple organs, namely the lungs,
kidneys, and heart. It is now widely accepted that SARS-CoV-2 causes
aberrant T lymphocyte activation resulting in a “cytokine storm.”
Hyper-coagulability (increased clotting) – the dysregulated immune
system damages the endothelium and activates blood clotting, causing
the formation of micro and macro blood clots. These blood clots impair
blood flow.
Severe Hypoxemia (low blood oxygen levels) – lung inflammation caused
by the cytokine storm, together with microthrombosis in the pulmonary
circulation severely impairs oxygen absorption resulting in oxygenation
failure.
The above pathologies are not novel, although the combined severity in
COVID-19 disease is considerable. Our long-standing and more recent
experiences show consistently successful treatment if traditional
therapeutic principles of early and aggressive intervention is
achieved, before the onset of advanced organ failure. It is our
collective opinion that the historically high levels of morbidity and
mortality from COVID-19 is due to a single factor: the widespread and
inappropriate reluctance amongst intensivists [critical care
physicians] to employ anti-inflammatory and anticoagulant treatments
[blood thinners], including corticosteroid therapy early in the course
of a patient’s hospitalization. It is essential to recognize that it is
not the virus that is killing the patient, rather it is the patient’s
overactive immune system. The flames of the “cytokine fire” are out of
control and need to be extinguished. Providing supportive care (with
ventilators that themselves stoke the fire) and waiting for the
cytokine fire to burn itself out simply does not work… this approach
has FAILED and has led to the death of tens of thousands of patients.
(Emphasis added.)

Similarly, consortium member Dr. Umberto Meduri, Professor of Medicine
at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center, advises that
“There is no justification based on available evidence and professional
ethics to categorically deny the use of corticosteroid
[anti-inflammatory] treatment in the severe life-threatening ‘cytokine
storm’ associated with COVID-19. Misinformation about the only
anti-inflammatory treatment available for this ‘cytokine storm’ has
resulted in COVID-19 patients dying from massive inflammation without
receiving an effective and safe anti-inflammatory treatment. Mortality
for ventilating patients is 50% — unacceptable.”


And Dr. Keith Berkowitz, a New York internist, adds, “Given the dire
circumstances in New York State, with almost 122,000 confirmed cases of
COVID-19 and 4,159 deaths, it is imperative that every hospital
immediately adopt this safe, low-cost and highly effective treatment
protocol, but they must implement it BEFORE the ICU, not after they
reach the ICU because, in this disease, the organ damage tends to be so
severe that patients rarely recover at that point.” (Emphasis added.)

Obviously, these findings and the announcement of this new treatment
protocol are great news for all of us who want lives to be saved and to
see an end to the massively destructive lockdown of our nation. After
all, isn’t the existence of an effective, widely available, scalable
treatment with a known safety profile for COVID-19 a powerful argument
for reopening America and ending government’s ongoing destruction of
our lives, livelihoods, and the economy?

Of course it is, which is why you will never hear about these findings
or strategy from the mainstream media and their progressive allies, who
have a stake in prolonging the lockdown. Just as they have mocked
hydroxychloroquine and banned any favorable mention of its use, you can
anticipate that news of the consortium’s protocol or any other
successful treatment available in the here and now — and arrived at
without a lengthy delay for randomized clinical trials — will go down
Orwell’s “memory hole.” Not only would such good news run counter to
the prevailing progressive orthodoxy that the only responsible,
“science-based” course is to keep America locked down, it would also
vindicate President Trump’s expressed optimism about hydroxychloroquine
— a clearly unacceptable outcome for our progressive betters.

But here’s a question: why weren’t physicians from the very onset of
the pandemic using this or a similar strategy to treat the inflammation
caused by SARS-CoV-2? As stated in Dr. Marik’s treatment protocol, the
consortium provides this disturbing answer:

The systematic failure of critical care systems to adopt corticosteroid
[anti-inflammatory] therapy resulted from the published recommendations
against corticosteroids use by the World Health Organization (WHO), the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the American
Thoracic Society (ATS) amongst others. A very recent publication by the
Society of Critical Care Medicine and authored [by] one of the members
of our group (UM), identified the errors made by these organizations in
their analyses of corticosteroid studies based on the findings of the
SARS and H1N1 pandemics. Their erroneous recommendation to avoid
corticosteroids in the treatment of COVID-19 has led to the development
of myriad organ failures which have overwhelmed critical care systems
across the world.

Our treatment protocol targeting these key pathologies has achieved
near uniform success, if begun within 6 hours of a COVID19 patient
presenting with shortness of breath or needing ≥ 4L/min of oxygen. If
such early initiation of treatment could be systematically achieved,
the need for mechanical ventilators and ICU beds will decrease
dramatically. [Emphasis added.]

Got that? The World Health Organization, which authoritatively told us
that there was no human-to-human transmission of the virus and which
bitterly condemned President Trump’s China travel ban, and the CDC,
which wasted precious weeks using the wrong test for SARS-CoV-2,
recommended against using anti-inflammatory drugs to treat COVID-19.
This failure and misinformation by these taxpayer-funded organizations
are as infuriating as the Food and Drug Administration’s recent warning
about hydroxychloroquine possibly causing irregular heartbeat in
COVID-19 patients even though the FDA provides no similar warning for
the millions of persons who take it for malarial prophylaxis or as an
anti-inflammatory in the treatment of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

Finally, are you ready for some real irony? Remember those tens of
thousands of ventilators that Gov. Andrew Cuomo demanded that the
federal government provide? The consortium strongly recommends that
they be used only as an absolute last resort. Why? As Dr. Marik points
out, “early intubation” will “cause the disease you are trying to
prevent, i.e., ARDS [Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome].” Ventilators
not only cause mechanical injury to the patient’s lungs and “stoke the
cytokine fire,” but Dr. Howard Kornfeld, President of the Pharmacology
Policy Institute, adds that “This protocol will not only save patients
lives, it will also lessen the danger to the doctors and nurses who
treat them by decreasing the need for mechanical ventilators.” In
short, in addition to harming the patient, use of a ventilator also
increases the medical staff’s risk of infection.

All that you have just read is the work product of highly qualified
experts who are on the front lines every day successfully treating
COVID-19. They are not living in ivory towers and pontificating from on
high about the need for randomized clinical trials and the production
of vaccines that are years away from being developed — if they ever
will be. Theirs is a report from the trenches, and it is all positive,
good news. It is also comprised of vital information that must be made
public so that, hopefully, it will inform the debate as to when, if
ever, America may be liberated from its suicidal, government-imposed
imprisonment. Since we can’t count on the mainstream media to report
these findings fully or fairly, I urge you to copy the consortium’s
linked documents and share them with one and all, including your
doctors.

I also urge you to have copies available to take with you to the
hospital if, God forbid, you become infected. Keep in mind that the
consortium strongly recommends that the administration of the
hydroxychloroquine, Methylprednisolone, or whatever corticosteroid
should promptly begin in the emergency room and continue throughout
hospitalization. As noted by the consortium, there is resistance to
using its anti-inflammatory strategy, and, for that reason, you must be
ready to be your own best patient advocate.

So, as we used to say in the Boy Scouts, “Be prepared” by having
printed copies of the consortium’s documents readily available. The
life you save may be your own.

George Parry is a former federal and state prosecutor. He blogs at
knowledgeisgood.net and may be reached by email at kig...@gmail.com.

https://spectator.org/a-report-from-the-front/

dsi1

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May 1, 2020, 2:01:08 PM5/1/20
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Well that's just nutty as hell.

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 3:10:55 PM5/1/20
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On Fri, 01 May 2020 10:50:51 -0400, Bruce <br...@null.null> wrote:

>A Report From the Front
>Positive, life-saving news from the trenches that’s going unreported by
>those fearful of ending the lockdown.
>George Parry by GEORGE PARRY
>May 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

I didn't post this (whatever it is).

graham

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May 1, 2020, 3:35:21 PM5/1/20
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It's the sort of crap that Morrow posts.

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 3:39:30 PM5/1/20
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Yes, I thought it was him.

GM

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May 1, 2020, 5:10:05 PM5/1/20
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WHAT...!!!??? FYI I *only* post intelligent and reasoned articles for your erudition, graham...and I did not post this article...!!!

FYI just arrived in the post a SPLENDID biography of Mrs. Thatcher by Charles Moore, "Margaret Thatcher - At Her Zenith In London, Washington and Moscow"...when I finish I'd be glad to send it along to you...very entertaining...Helmut Kohl (who referred to her as "THAT WOMAN!") was somewhat afraid that she would bash him with her handbag, LOL...!!!

;-D

--
Best
Greg

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 6:51:59 PM5/1/20
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dsi1 pretended :
Print it out and take it with you to the
hospital if you suspect you're suffering
from the China virus, it may save your
life.

Hank Rogers

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May 1, 2020, 6:57:07 PM5/1/20
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Bruce wrote:
> dsi1 pretended :
>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 4:50:57 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> A Report From the Front
>>> Positive, life-saving news from the trenches that’s going
>>> unreported by those fearful of ending the lockdown.
>>> George Parry by GEORGE PARRY
>>> May 1, 2020, 12:07 AM
>>>
>>> Ever since President Trump expressed optimism about the use of
>>> hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, the mere mention of that
>>> drug can elicit instantaneous, strident, and finger-wagging
>>> condemnation by the mainstream media and all those who are
>>> pulling for the pandemic to lay waste to the economy and pave
>>> the way for a fundamental progressive transformation of America.
>>> Despite its use by health-care providers across the country and
>>> around the world to successfully treat COVID-19, you will be
>>> mocked as either a fool or a snake oil salesman if you
>>> approvingly utter the word “hydroxychloroquine†or even
>>> express hope that it can be used to save lives. The word is
>>> simply not to be tolerated in polite, progressive society.
>>>
>>> Well, it appears that the list of forbidden words is about to
>>> get longer. The new additions include “corticosteroidsâ€
>>> and “Methylprednisolone.â€
>>>
>>> What do these widely available and relatively inexpensive drugs
>>> with known safety profiles have in common with
>>> hydroxychloroquine? Leading physicians are using them in
>>> addition to hydroxychloroquine to successfully treat COVID-19.
>>> And they are doing so without waiting two or three years for the
>>> results of randomized clinical trials.
>>>
>>> On April 6, 2020, the aptly named “Front Line COVID-19
>>> Critical Care Consortium†issued a bulletin urging the
>>> “immediate adoption of [an] early intervention protocol to
>>> prevent mortality and reduce the use of ventilators from
>>> COVID-19 disease.†The consortium consists of leading critical
>>> care specialists from the University of Wisconsin School of
>>> Medicine & Public Health, the University of Texas Health Science
>>> Center, the University of Tennessee Health Science Center,
>>> Manhattan’s Lenox Hill Hospital, the Eastern Virginia Medical
>>> School, and other equally distinguished medical schools and
>>> centers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Based on the available research and “their decades-long
>>> professional experiences in Intensive Care Units around the
>>> country,†these experts “strongly urge fellow physicians to
>>> immediately adopt a change in strategy by delivering powerful
>>> [anti-inflammatory] therapies earlier in the [COVID-19] disease
>>> course, prior to admission to the ICU or the need for a
>>> mechanical ventilator.â€
>>>
>>> COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. So, is this new drug
>>> strategy calculated to eradicate the virus or reduce the
>>> patient’s viral load? Not at all, but, as these experts
>>> explain, that is quite beside the point.
>>>
>>> One of the consortium members is Dr. Pierre Kory, the Medical
>>> Director of the Trauma and Life Support Center and Chief of the
>>> Critical Care Service at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
>>> In the bulletin, he explains that “it is the severe
>>> inflammation sparked by the Coronavirus, not the virus itself,
>>> that kills patients. Inflammation causes a new variety of Acute
>>> Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS), which damages the lungs.â€
>>>
>>> As spelled out in the consortium’s bulletin, the key to the
>>> new treatment strategy is the early and prompt use of
>>> hydroxychloroquine (which is also prescribed to reduce
>>> inflammation in lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients) and/or
>>> corticosteroids such as Methylprednisolone to reduce the
>>> inflammation caused by the coronavirus.
>>>
>>> On April 20, 2020, Dr. Paul Marik, Chief of Pulmonary and
>>> Critical Care Medicine at the Eastern Virginia Medical School,
>>> published a Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol based on
>>> the consortium’s findings. In the protocol, he states the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> Scientific Rational[e] for Treatment Protocol
>>>
>>> Three core pathologic processes lead to multi-organ failure and
>>> death in COVID-19:
>>>
>>> Hyper-inflammation (“Cytokine storm†) – a dysregulated
>>> immune system whose cells infiltrate and damage multiple organs,
>>> namely the lungs, kidneys, and heart. It is now widely accepted
>>> that SARS-CoV-2 causes aberrant T lymphocyte activation
>>> resulting in a “cytokine storm.â€
>>> Hyper-coagulability (increased clotting) – the dysregulated
>>> immune system damages the endothelium and activates blood
>>> clotting, causing the formation of micro and macro blood clots.
>>> These blood clots impair blood flow.
>>> Severe Hypoxemia (low blood oxygen levels) – lung inflammation
>>> caused by the cytokine storm, together with microthrombosis in
>>> the pulmonary circulation severely impairs oxygen absorption
>>> resulting in oxygenation failure.
>>> The above pathologies are not novel, although the combined
>>> severity in COVID-19 disease is considerable. Our long-standing
>>> and more recent experiences show consistently successful
>>> treatment if traditional therapeutic principles of early and
>>> aggressive intervention is achieved, before the onset of
>>> advanced organ failure. It is our collective opinion that the
>>> historically high levels of morbidity and mortality from
>>> COVID-19 is due to a single factor: the widespread and
>>> inappropriate reluctance amongst intensivists [critical care
>>> physicians] to employ anti-inflammatory and anticoagulant
>>> treatments [blood thinners], including corticosteroid therapy
>>> early in the course of a patient’s hospitalization. It is
>>> essential to recognize that it is not the virus that is killing
>>> the patient, rather it is the patient’s overactive immune
>>> system. The flames of the “cytokine fire†are out of control
>>> and need to be extinguished. Providing supportive care (with
>>> ventilators that themselves stoke the fire) and waiting for the
>>> cytokine fire to burn itself out simply does not work… this
>>> approach has FAILED and has led to the death of tens of
>>> thousands of patients. (Emphasis added.)
>>>
>>> Similarly, consortium member Dr. Umberto Meduri, Professor of
>>> Medicine at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center,
>>> advises that “There is no justification based on available
>>> evidence and professional ethics to categorically deny the use
>>> of corticosteroid [anti-inflammatory] treatment in the severe
>>> life-threatening ‘cytokine storm’ associated with COVID-19.
>>> Misinformation about the only anti-inflammatory treatment
>>> available for this ‘cytokine storm’ has resulted in COVID-19
>>> patients dying from massive inflammation without receiving an
>>> effective and safe anti-inflammatory treatment. Mortality for
>>> ventilating patients is 50% — unacceptable.â€
>>>
>>>
>>> And Dr. Keith Berkowitz, a New York internist, adds, “Given
>>> the dire circumstances in New York State, with almost 122,000
>>> confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 4,159 deaths, it is imperative
>>> that every hospital immediately adopt this safe, low-cost and
>>> highly effective treatment protocol, but they must implement it
>>> BEFORE the ICU, not after they reach the ICU because, in this
>>> disease, the organ damage tends to be so severe that patients
>>> rarely recover at that point.†(Emphasis added.)
>>>
>>> Obviously, these findings and the announcement of this new
>>> treatment protocol are great news for all of us who want lives
>>> to be saved and to see an end to the massively destructive
>>> lockdown of our nation. After all, isn’t the existence of an
>>> effective, widely available, scalable treatment with a known
>>> safety profile for COVID-19 a powerful argument for reopening
>>> America and ending government’s ongoing destruction of our
>>> lives, livelihoods, and the economy?
>>>
>>> Of course it is, which is why you will never hear about these
>>> findings or strategy from the mainstream media and their
>>> progressive allies, who have a stake in prolonging the lockdown.
>>> Just as they have mocked hydroxychloroquine and banned any
>>> favorable mention of its use, you can anticipate that news of
>>> the consortium’s protocol or any other successful treatment
>>> available in the here and now — and arrived at without a
>>> lengthy delay for randomized clinical trials — will go down
>>> Orwell’s “memory hole.†Not only would such good news run
>>> counter to the prevailing progressive orthodoxy that the only
>>> responsible, “science-based†course is to keep America
>>> locked down, it would also vindicate President Trump’s
>>> expressed optimism about hydroxychloroquine — a clearly
>>> unacceptable outcome for our progressive betters.
>>>
>>> But here’s a question: why weren’t physicians from the very
>>> onset of the pandemic using this or a similar strategy to treat
>>> the inflammation caused by SARS-CoV-2? As stated in Dr.
>>> Marik’s treatment protocol, the consortium provides this
>>> disturbing answer:
>>>
>>> The systematic failure of critical care systems to adopt
>>> corticosteroid [anti-inflammatory] therapy resulted from the
>>> published recommendations against corticosteroids use by the
>>> World Health Organization (WHO), the Centers for Disease Control
>>> and Prevention (CDC), and the American Thoracic Society (ATS)
>>> amongst others. A very recent publication by the Society of
>>> Critical Care Medicine and authored [by] one of the members of
>>> our group (UM), identified the errors made by these
>>> organizations in their analyses of corticosteroid studies based
>>> on the findings of the SARS and H1N1 pandemics. Their erroneous
>>> recommendation to avoid corticosteroids in the treatment of
>>> COVID-19 has led to the development of myriad organ failures
>>> which have overwhelmed critical care systems across the world.
>>>
>>> Our treatment protocol targeting these key pathologies has
>>> achieved near uniform success, if begun within 6 hours of a
>>> COVID19 patient presenting with shortness of breath or needing
>>> ≥ 4L/min of oxygen. If such early initiation of treatment
>>> could be systematically achieved, the need for mechanical
>>> ventilators and ICU beds will decrease dramatically. [Emphasis
>>> added.]
>>>
>>> Got that? The World Health Organization, which authoritatively
>>> told us that there was no human-to-human transmission of the
>>> virus and which bitterly condemned President Trump’s China
>>> travel ban, and the CDC, which wasted precious weeks using the
>>> wrong test for SARS-CoV-2, recommended against using
>>> anti-inflammatory drugs to treat COVID-19. This failure and
>>> misinformation by these taxpayer-funded organizations are as
>>> infuriating as the Food and Drug Administration’s recent
>>> warning about hydroxychloroquine possibly causing irregular
>>> heartbeat in COVID-19 patients even though the FDA provides no
>>> similar warning for the millions of persons who take it for
>>> malarial prophylaxis or as an anti-inflammatory in the treatment
>>> of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
>>>
>>> Finally, are you ready for some real irony? Remember those tens
>>> of thousands of ventilators that Gov. Andrew Cuomo demanded that
>>> the federal government provide? The consortium strongly
>>> recommends that they be used only as an absolute last resort.
>>> Why? As Dr. Marik points out, “early intubation†will
>>> “cause the disease you are trying to prevent, i.e., ARDS
>>> [Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome].†Ventilators not only
>>> cause mechanical injury to the patient’s lungs and “stoke
>>> the cytokine fire,†but Dr. Howard Kornfeld, President of the
>>> Pharmacology Policy Institute, adds that “This protocol will
>>> not only save patients lives, it will also lessen the danger to
>>> the doctors and nurses who treat them by decreasing the need for
>>> mechanical ventilators.†In short, in addition to harming the
>>> patient, use of a ventilator also increases the medical
>>> staff’s risk of infection.
>>>
>>> All that you have just read is the work product of highly
>>> qualified experts who are on the front lines every day
>>> successfully treating COVID-19. They are not living in ivory
>>> towers and pontificating from on high about the need for
>>> randomized clinical trials and the production of vaccines that
>>> are years away from being developed — if they ever will be.
>>> Theirs is a report from the trenches, and it is all positive,
>>> good news. It is also comprised of vital information that must
>>> be made public so that, hopefully, it will inform the debate as
>>> to when, if ever, America may be liberated from its suicidal,
>>> government-imposed imprisonment. Since we can’t count on the
>>> mainstream media to report these findings fully or fairly, I
>>> urge you to copy the consortium’s linked documents and share
>>> them with one and all, including your doctors.
>>>
>>> I also urge you to have copies available to take with you to the
>>> hospital if, God forbid, you become infected. Keep in mind that
>>> the consortium strongly recommends that the administration of
>>> the hydroxychloroquine, Methylprednisolone, or whatever
>>> corticosteroid should promptly begin in the emergency room and
>>> continue throughout hospitalization. As noted by the consortium,
>>> there is resistance to using its anti-inflammatory strategy,
>>> and, for that reason, you must be ready to be your own best
>>> patient advocate.
>>>
>>> So, as we used to say in the Boy Scouts, “Be prepared†by
>>> having printed copies of the consortium’s documents readily
>>> available. The life you save may be your own.
>>>
>>> George Parry is a former federal and state prosecutor. He blogs
>>> at knowledgeisgood.net and may be reached by email at
>>> kig...@gmail.com.
>>>
>>> https://spectator.org/a-report-from-the-front/
>>
>> Well that's just nutty as hell.
>>
> Print it out and take it with you to the
> hospital if you suspect you're suffering
> from the China virus, it may save your
> life.

OMG Druce ... did he fart while you were sniffing?

SCORE one for the fruce!




Bruce

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On Fri, 01 May 2020 18:51:46 -0400, Bruce <br...@null.null> wrote:

>dsi1 pretended :
>>
>> Well that's just nutty as hell.
>>
>Print it out and take it with you to the
>hospital if you suspect you're suffering
>from the China virus, it may save your
>life.

I didn't post that :)

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 7:12:58 PM5/1/20
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Bruce brought next idea :
Scratches chin...nope

dsi1

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May 1, 2020, 7:23:20 PM5/1/20
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Right wing propaganda with bogus medical treatments ain't gonna save nobody's life. George Parry could get his ass sued big time because folks stupid enough to believe him are going to die or kill someone.


Dope.

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 7:25:56 PM5/1/20
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dsi1 submitted this idea :
Medical proof that it's not the virus that
kills you, but the inflammation.

You were warned.

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 7:27:46 PM5/1/20
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Who was that person I've been talking a bit with? Patriotic defender
of all things American. What was it? Patrick Dennis? Dennis Patrick?
No... Starts with a C... Corona Virus? Creme Fraiche?

dsi1

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May 1, 2020, 7:31:23 PM5/1/20
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Of course you're stupid enough to believe George Parry. Good luck with that wertz.

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 7:37:21 PM5/1/20
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dsi1 laid this down on his screen :
You must have missed all the doctors that
agree with the inflammation theory, and how
much it helps to be administered anti-infalmitories
as soon as you arrive to the hospital.

Like he said, print it and take it with you.

dsi1

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May 1, 2020, 7:55:40 PM5/1/20
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Nobody is recommending that people be treated with hydroxychloroquine, you idiot - except George Parry, you, and the chump.

The protocol I've seen recommends methylprednisolone, high doses of ascorbic acid, heparin, and a battery of vitamins.

Bruce

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May 1, 2020, 8:11:41 PM5/1/20
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Once again you show that you didn't read the
whole article. Doctors suggest rapid doses
of drugs like hydroxychloroquine, or some something
to tame the inflammation before you need a ventilator.

The choice of drugs isn't the point, the ventilator
does as much or more damage than the virus does and
at that point you're 50/50 doomed.

This isn't about Trump, it's about you dealing
with the pile of shit China planted on the world.

Pull your head out of your ass, and stop defending
China.

Hank Rogers

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May 1, 2020, 9:06:01 PM5/1/20
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Bruce wrote:
> dsi1 submitted this idea :
>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 12:51:59 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> dsi1 pretended :
>>>> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 4:50:57 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> A Report From the Front
>>>>> Positive, life-saving news from the trenches that’s going
>>>>> unreported by those fearful of ending the lockdown.
>>>>> George Parry by GEORGE PARRY
>>>>> May 1, 2020, 12:07 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever since President Trump expressed optimism about the use of
>>>>> hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, the mere mention of that
>>>>> drug can elicit instantaneous, strident, and finger-wagging
>>>>> condemnation by the mainstream media and all those who are
>>>>> pulling for the pandemic to lay waste to the economy and pave
>>>>> the way for a fundamental progressive transformation of
>>>>> America. Despite its use by health-care providers across the
>>>>> country and around the world to successfully treat COVID-19,
>>>>> you will be mocked as either a fool or a snake oil salesman if
>>>>> you approvingly utter the word “hydroxychloroquine†or
>>>>> even express hope that it can be used to save lives. The word
>>>>> is simply not to be tolerated in polite, progressive society.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it appears that the list of forbidden words is about to
>>>>> get longer. The new additions include “corticosteroidsâ€
>>>>> and “Methylprednisolone.â€
>>>>>
>>>>> What do these widely available and relatively inexpensive
>>>>> drugs with known safety profiles have in common with
>>>>> hydroxychloroquine? Leading physicians are using them in
>>>>> addition to hydroxychloroquine to successfully treat COVID-19.
>>>>> And they are doing so without waiting two or three years for
>>>>> the results of randomized clinical trials.
>>>>>
>>>>> On April 6, 2020, the aptly named “Front Line COVID-19
>>>>> Critical Care Consortium†issued a bulletin urging the
>>>>> “immediate adoption of [an] early intervention protocol to
>>>>> prevent mortality and reduce the use of ventilators from
>>>>> COVID-19 disease.†The consortium consists of leading
>>>>> critical care specialists from the University of Wisconsin
>>>>> School of Medicine & Public Health, the University of Texas
>>>>> Health Science Center, the University of Tennessee Health
>>>>> Science Center, Manhattan’s Lenox Hill Hospital, the Eastern
>>>>> Virginia Medical School, and other equally distinguished
>>>>> medical schools and centers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on the available research and “their decades-long
>>>>> professional experiences in Intensive Care Units around the
>>>>> country,†these experts “strongly urge fellow physicians
>>>>> to immediately adopt a change in strategy by delivering
>>>>> powerful [anti-inflammatory] therapies earlier in the
>>>>> [COVID-19] disease course, prior to admission to the ICU or
>>>>> the need for a mechanical ventilator.â€
>>>>>
>>>>> COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. So, is this new
>>>>> drug strategy calculated to eradicate the virus or reduce the
>>>>> patient’s viral load? Not at all, but, as these experts
>>>>> explain, that is quite beside the point.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the consortium members is Dr. Pierre Kory, the Medical
>>>>> Director of the Trauma and Life Support Center and Chief of
>>>>> the Critical Care Service at the University of Wisconsin in
>>>>> Madison. In the bulletin, he explains that “it is the severe
>>>>> inflammation sparked by the Coronavirus, not the virus itself,
>>>>> that kills patients. Inflammation causes a new variety of
>>>>> Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS), which damages
>>>>> the lungs.â€
>>>>>
>>>>> As spelled out in the consortium’s bulletin, the key to the
>>>>> new treatment strategy is the early and prompt use of
>>>>> hydroxychloroquine (which is also prescribed to reduce
>>>>> inflammation in lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients)
>>>>> and/or corticosteroids such as Methylprednisolone to reduce
>>>>> the inflammation caused by the coronavirus.
>>>>>
>>>>> On April 20, 2020, Dr. Paul Marik, Chief of Pulmonary and
>>>>> Critical Care Medicine at the Eastern Virginia Medical School,
>>>>> published a Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol based
>>>>> on the consortium’s findings. In the protocol, he states the
>>>>> following:
>>>>>
>>>>> Scientific Rational[e] for Treatment Protocol
>>>>>
>>>>> Three core pathologic processes lead to multi-organ failure
>>>>> and death in COVID-19:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hyper-inflammation (“Cytokine storm†) – a dysregulated
>>>>> immune system whose cells infiltrate and damage multiple
>>>>> organs, namely the lungs, kidneys, and heart. It is now widely
>>>>> accepted that SARS-CoV-2 causes aberrant T lymphocyte
>>>>> activation resulting in a “cytokine storm.â€
>>>>> Hyper-coagulability (increased clotting) – the dysregulated
>>>>> immune system damages the endothelium and activates blood
>>>>> clotting, causing the formation of micro and macro blood
>>>>> clots. These blood clots impair blood flow.
>>>>> Severe Hypoxemia (low blood oxygen levels) – lung
>>>>> inflammation caused by the cytokine storm, together with
>>>>> microthrombosis in the pulmonary circulation severely impairs
>>>>> oxygen absorption resulting in oxygenation failure.
>>>>> The above pathologies are not novel, although the combined
>>>>> severity in COVID-19 disease is considerable. Our
>>>>> long-standing and more recent experiences show consistently
>>>>> successful treatment if traditional therapeutic principles of
>>>>> early and aggressive intervention is achieved, before the
>>>>> onset of advanced organ failure. It is our collective opinion
>>>>> that the historically high levels of morbidity and mortality
>>>>> from COVID-19 is due to a single factor: the widespread and
>>>>> inappropriate reluctance amongst intensivists [critical care
>>>>> physicians] to employ anti-inflammatory and anticoagulant
>>>>> treatments [blood thinners], including corticosteroid therapy
>>>>> early in the course of a patient’s hospitalization. It is
>>>>> essential to recognize that it is not the virus that is
>>>>> killing the patient, rather it is the patient’s overactive
>>>>> immune system. The flames of the “cytokine fire†are out
>>>>> of control and need to be extinguished. Providing supportive
>>>>> care (with ventilators that themselves stoke the fire) and
>>>>> waiting for the cytokine fire to burn itself out simply does
>>>>> not work… this approach has FAILED and has led to the death
>>>>> of tens of thousands of patients. (Emphasis added.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, consortium member Dr. Umberto Meduri, Professor of
>>>>> Medicine at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center,
>>>>> advises that “There is no justification based on available
>>>>> evidence and professional ethics to categorically deny the use
>>>>> of corticosteroid [anti-inflammatory] treatment in the severe
>>>>> life-threatening ‘cytokine storm’ associated with
>>>>> COVID-19. Misinformation about the only anti-inflammatory
>>>>> treatment available for this ‘cytokine storm’ has resulted
>>>>> in COVID-19 patients dying from massive inflammation without
>>>>> receiving an effective and safe anti-inflammatory treatment.
>>>>> Mortality for ventilating patients is 50% — unacceptable.â€
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And Dr. Keith Berkowitz, a New York internist, adds, “Given
>>>>> the dire circumstances in New York State, with almost 122,000
>>>>> confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 4,159 deaths, it is imperative
>>>>> that every hospital immediately adopt this safe, low-cost and
>>>>> highly effective treatment protocol, but they must implement
>>>>> it BEFORE the ICU, not after they reach the ICU because, in
>>>>> this disease, the organ damage tends to be so severe that
>>>>> patients rarely recover at that point.†(Emphasis added.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, these findings and the announcement of this new
>>>>> treatment protocol are great news for all of us who want lives
>>>>> to be saved and to see an end to the massively destructive
>>>>> lockdown of our nation. After all, isn’t the existence of an
>>>>> effective, widely available, scalable treatment with a known
>>>>> safety profile for COVID-19 a powerful argument for reopening
>>>>> America and ending government’s ongoing destruction of our
>>>>> lives, livelihoods, and the economy?
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it is, which is why you will never hear about these
>>>>> findings or strategy from the mainstream media and their
>>>>> progressive allies, who have a stake in prolonging the
>>>>> lockdown. Just as they have mocked hydroxychloroquine and
>>>>> banned any favorable mention of its use, you can anticipate
>>>>> that news of the consortium’s protocol or any other
>>>>> successful treatment available in the here and now — and
>>>>> arrived at without a lengthy delay for randomized clinical
>>>>> trials — will go down Orwell’s “memory hole.†Not only
>>>>> would such good news run counter to the prevailing progressive
>>>>> orthodoxy that the only responsible, “science-basedâ€
>>>>> course is to keep America locked down, it would also vindicate
>>>>> President Trump’s expressed optimism about
>>>>> hydroxychloroquine — a clearly unacceptable outcome for our
>>>>> progressive betters.
>>>>>
>>>>> But here’s a question: why weren’t physicians from the
>>>>> very onset of the pandemic using this or a similar strategy to
>>>>> treat the inflammation caused by SARS-CoV-2? As stated in Dr.
>>>>> Marik’s treatment protocol, the consortium provides this
>>>>> disturbing answer:
>>>>>
>>>>> The systematic failure of critical care systems to adopt
>>>>> corticosteroid [anti-inflammatory] therapy resulted from the
>>>>> published recommendations against corticosteroids use by the
>>>>> World Health Organization (WHO), the Centers for Disease
>>>>> Control and Prevention (CDC), and the American Thoracic
>>>>> Society (ATS) amongst others. A very recent publication by the
>>>>> Society of Critical Care Medicine and authored [by] one of the
>>>>> members of our group (UM), identified the errors made by these
>>>>> organizations in their analyses of corticosteroid studies
>>>>> based on the findings of the SARS and H1N1 pandemics. Their
>>>>> erroneous recommendation to avoid corticosteroids in the
>>>>> treatment of COVID-19 has led to the development of myriad
>>>>> organ failures which have overwhelmed critical care systems
>>>>> across the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our treatment protocol targeting these key pathologies has
>>>>> achieved near uniform success, if begun within 6 hours of a
>>>>> COVID19 patient presenting with shortness of breath or needing
>>>>> ≥ 4L/min of oxygen. If such early initiation of treatment
>>>>> could be systematically achieved, the need for mechanical
>>>>> ventilators and ICU beds will decrease dramatically. [Emphasis
>>>>> added.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Got that? The World Health Organization, which authoritatively
>>>>> told us that there was no human-to-human transmission of the
>>>>> virus and which bitterly condemned President Trump’s China
>>>>> travel ban, and the CDC, which wasted precious weeks using the
>>>>> wrong test for SARS-CoV-2, recommended against using
>>>>> anti-inflammatory drugs to treat COVID-19. This failure and
>>>>> misinformation by these taxpayer-funded organizations are as
>>>>> infuriating as the Food and Drug Administration’s recent
>>>>> warning about hydroxychloroquine possibly causing irregular
>>>>> heartbeat in COVID-19 patients even though the FDA provides no
>>>>> similar warning for the millions of persons who take it for
>>>>> malarial prophylaxis or as an anti-inflammatory in the
>>>>> treatment of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, are you ready for some real irony? Remember those
>>>>> tens of thousands of ventilators that Gov. Andrew Cuomo
>>>>> demanded that the federal government provide? The consortium
>>>>> strongly recommends that they be used only as an absolute last
>>>>> resort. Why? As Dr. Marik points out, “early intubationâ€
>>>>> will “cause the disease you are trying to prevent, i.e.,
>>>>> ARDS [Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome].†Ventilators not
>>>>> only cause mechanical injury to the patient’s lungs and
>>>>> “stoke the cytokine fire,†but Dr. Howard Kornfeld,
>>>>> President of the Pharmacology Policy Institute, adds that
>>>>> “This protocol will not only save patients lives, it will
>>>>> also lessen the danger to the doctors and nurses who treat
>>>>> them by decreasing the need for mechanical ventilators.†In
>>>>> short, in addition to harming the patient, use of a ventilator
>>>>> also increases the medical staff’s risk of infection.
>>>>>
>>>>> All that you have just read is the work product of highly
>>>>> qualified experts who are on the front lines every day
>>>>> successfully treating COVID-19. They are not living in ivory
>>>>> towers and pontificating from on high about the need for
>>>>> randomized clinical trials and the production of vaccines that
>>>>> are years away from being developed — if they ever will be.
>>>>> Theirs is a report from the trenches, and it is all positive,
>>>>> good news. It is also comprised of vital information that must
>>>>> be made public so that, hopefully, it will inform the debate
>>>>> as to when, if ever, America may be liberated from its
>>>>> suicidal, government-imposed imprisonment. Since we can’t
>>>>> count on the mainstream media to report these findings fully
>>>>> or fairly, I urge you to copy the consortium’s linked
>>>>> documents and share them with one and all, including your
>>>>> doctors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also urge you to have copies available to take with you to
>>>>> the hospital if, God forbid, you become infected. Keep in mind
>>>>> that the consortium strongly recommends that the
>>>>> administration of the hydroxychloroquine, Methylprednisolone,
>>>>> or whatever corticosteroid should promptly begin in the
>>>>> emergency room and continue throughout hospitalization. As
>>>>> noted by the consortium, there is resistance to using its
>>>>> anti-inflammatory strategy, and, for that reason, you must be
>>>>> ready to be your own best patient advocate.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, as we used to say in the Boy Scouts, “Be prepared†by
>>>>> having printed copies of the consortium’s documents readily
>>>>> available. The life you save may be your own.
>>>>>
>>>>> George Parry is a former federal and state prosecutor. He
>>>>> blogs at knowledgeisgood.net and may be reached by email at
>>>>> kig...@gmail.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://spectator.org/a-report-from-the-front/
>>>>
>>>> Well that's just nutty as hell.
>>>>
>>> Print it out and take it with you to the
>>> hospital if you suspect you're suffering
>>> from the China virus, it may save your
>>> life.
>>
>> Right wing propaganda with bogus medical treatments ain't gonna
>> save nobody's life. George Parry could get his ass sued big time
>> because folks stupid enough to believe him are going to die or
>> kill someone.
>>
>> Dope.
>>
> Medical proof that it's not the virus that
> kills you, but the inflammation.
>
> You were warned.


Well, I guess I would believe a dutch man that hates my country
with a vengeance. And also hates me.

Sure, I would trust him. He's a superior being, almost like jeasus.


dsi1

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May 1, 2020, 10:39:26 PM5/1/20
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Patient: Are you going to be treating me with methylprednisolone, Doc?

Doc: No, we're going to be giving you a dose of hydroxychloroquine, like Dr. Parry and the president recommends. It's something like methylprednisolone so you don't have to worry about it. You can thank your lucky stars that I read "The American Spectator!"

Gary

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GM wrote:
>
> FYI just arrived in the post a SPLENDID biography of Mrs. Thatcher by Charles Moore, "Margaret Thatcher - At Her Zenith In London, Washington and Moscow"...when I finish I'd be glad to send it along to you...very entertaining...Helmut Kohl (who referred to her as "THAT WOMAN!") was somewhat afraid that she would bash him with her handbag, LOL...!!!

Like that old woman in the Benny Hill skits? funny stuff!

GM

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If you want some funny parodies, google for some of the 80's UK "Spitting Images" satirical puppet shows - lacerating, and they *really* hated her, lol...

Love her or hate her, Thatcher was an amazing character, you could not have invented her, she was so outrageous...reading this hefty - and multi-volume! - bio of her makes for a real page - turner, e.g. "WHAT will she say/do NEXT!?"

There was one incident, when doing some negotations in a meeting, when Chancellor Kohl was so fed up with her that he "called in sick" to the meeting. A bit later in the day Thatcher was walking around the town (somewhere in Germany ISTR) and she espied Kohl enjoying sausages and beer at an outside cafe...AND their eyes met! The big towering popular Kohl was ambushed like a little kid, lol...!!!

They had an "advesarial" relationship, making for some comedy "gold:"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/03/germany.past

Kohl tells of being battered by Iron Lady

·Former PM was 'ice cold in pursuit of her interests'
· Adviser says book's claims 'complete codswallop'

Luke Harding in Berlin - Wed 2 Nov 2005

"Germany's former chancellor, Helmut Kohl, yesterday gave a gripping account of his tumultuous encounters with Margaret Thatcher, recalling in his memoirs how she once told him: "We've beaten the Germans twice. Now they're back!"
In the latest instalment of his recollections published yesterday, Mr Kohl recounts the furious reaction of Lady Thatcher - then Mrs Thatcher - when she discovered the Berlin Wall had collapsed. Mr Kohl, whose latest volume deals with the years 1982-1990, said Mrs Thatcher never made any secret of her hostility to the prospect of a reunited Germany.

On November 10 1989, a day after the border between East and West Germany was opened, Mr Kohl made a "difficult" phone call to Mrs Thatcher, apprising her of the developments in Berlin. She was "uneasy", he said. The following month, at an EU summit in Strasbourg, Mrs Thatcher launched a "pretty hefty attack on me over the dessert", Mr Kohl says . "I told her that even Margaret Thatcher couldn't stop the Germans from pursuing their destiny."

"Beside herself with rage, Thatcher stamped her feet and screamed: 'That's what you think!'"

On another occasion Mrs Thatcher reached into her "famous handbag" and produced a map of Europe where she had coloured in territories lost by Germany to Poland after the second world war. "Her commentary was: 'The Germans will take all this and Czechoslovakia as well!'"

More insults from "the Iron Lady" followed, Mr Kohl writes, when she was obliged in December 1989 to sign a text supporting German unity. "I will never forget Margaret Thatcher's angry observation: 'We have beaten the Germans twice. Now they're back'."

In Berlin yesterday Mr Kohl, 75, spoke highly of Mrs Thatcher, however, saying that of all the European leaders confronted with the consequences of the sudden collapse of the Soviet bloc she was the most honest. He added: "She was one of the great personalities in the era I write about - highly intelligent, passionate, power conscious and not too choosy about how she exercised it ... it was very unpleasant to have her as an opponent. The enmity didn't finish at the end of the day. It carried on the next morning."

Mr Kohl recalls his bruising early encounters with Mrs Thatcher soon after he became Germany's chancellor in 1982, especially over the vexed issue of Britain's EU rebate. "I took over the role of mediator between Thatcher and [France's president] Francois Mitterrand. It was a bit like being a horse trader who doesn't have any animals of his own to offer," Mr Kohl writes of a summit in Stuttgart the following year.

"Mrs Thatcher was ice cold in the pursuit of her interests. Early in the morning she left the sitting in protest. At the end, when the prime minister appeared to be the victor, she didn't thank anyone but spoke of an insult to Her Majesty."

The only subject on which Mr Kohl and Mrs Thatcher could agree was their shared enthusiasm for Winston Churchill. Even there, though, there were differences. "I once told her: 'Margaret, the difference between you and me is that I live in a time after Churchill and you live in the time before him.' She wasn't very happy."

Last night Sir Tim Bell, Lady Thatcher's former adviser, cast doubt on Mr Kohl's version of events. "The idea that she was opposed to German reunification seems to me to be complete codswallop. The Berlin Wall was the greatest symbol of the cold war. She and Ronald Reagan were the biggest opponents of the cold war. They celebrated massively when it was over."

He added: "The quote 'We have beaten the Germans twice' doesn't sound right. I have never heard her behave like that with the head of a foreign country."

Mr Kohl is still writing the final volume of his memoirs, dealing with his fall from power in 1998..."

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