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Bryan Simmons

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Jan 6, 2022, 5:12:28 AM1/6/22
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Well, my wife and I both called off work this morning.
We've both had 3 shots, so it shouldn't be that bad. I
guess I'll be getting a few days rest. There are no tests
to be had, but it's very likely Covid.

--Bryan

joe

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Jan 6, 2022, 8:19:36 AM1/6/22
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In article <d6c1035b-1fbe-427c...@googlegroups.com>, bryang...@gmail.com says...
The silver lining is now you can spend more time in here
showing your never ending love for Kuthe.

That's a win for both of you losers.

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 6, 2022, 12:37:15 PM1/6/22
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On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:19:36 AM UTC-6, joe wrote:
> In article <d6c1035b-1fbe-427c...@googlegroups.com>, bryang...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > Well, my wife and I both called off work this morning.
> > We've both had 3 shots, so it shouldn't be that bad. I
> > guess I'll be getting a few days rest. There are no tests
> > to be had, but it's very likely Covid.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> The silver lining is now you can spend more time in here
>
I did an at home test, and it was negative.

--Bryan

Graham

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:12:47 PM1/6/22
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AIUI, The failure rate of these is very high.

Arn0

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:26:53 PM1/6/22
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An unvaccinated friend of mine did a self test and it was negative.
Now, two days later he has all the symptoms.

Arn0

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:49:42 PM1/6/22
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This is my frogger.

Arn0

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:51:37 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:12:39 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Arn0

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Jan 6, 2022, 1:52:14 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:37:11 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons

Arn0

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Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 2:11:14 PM1/6/22
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My son was tested at work the other day because at least 4 of his
co-workers were home sick with Covid. He and several others were sent
home when the tests showed positive. His was questionable but they
opted to err on the side of caution. He took another test when he got
home and he got another questionable positive, but it was just a very
faint pink line that wasn't even supposed to be at that location. He
took another one the next day and was negative.

The local health unit posts the new infections daily and they have
soared. Now they are saying the numbers are not accurate because their
testing resources are maxed out and they are telling people not to
bother with the test and to assume they are positive.

There has been an increase in hospital admission but thank goodness it
is a slight increase and not at all in proportion to the number of
positive test results.

S Viemeister

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Jan 6, 2022, 2:54:06 PM1/6/22
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On 06/01/2022 18:12, Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:37:11 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:19:36 AM UTC-6, joe wrote:
>>> In article <d6c1035b-1fbe-427c...@googlegroups.com>, bryang...@gmail.com says...
>>>> Well, my wife and I both called off work this morning.
>>>> We've both had 3 shots, so it shouldn't be that bad. I
>>>> guess I'll be getting a few days rest. There are no tests
>>>> to be had, but it's very likely Covid.
>>> The silver lining is now you can spend more time in here
>>>
>> I did an at home test, and it was negative.
>
> AIUI, The failure rate of these is very high.
>
False negatives are fairly common, but not false positives.

Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:09:15 PM1/6/22
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Ewww!

[disinfecting screen and keyboard]

So your son just took it to Mexico and gave it everybody on the
plane? Or was it Mumbai? Or Kiuala Lumpur? Don't they require
testing before international flights?

-sw

Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:10:02 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:37:11 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> I did an at home test, and it was negative.

Those things suck and can't be trusted.

-sw

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:19:57 PM1/6/22
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Apparently there are both. Anecdotally, my son was sent home from work
the other day when he tested positive, though the appearance was
questionable. He did another test when he got home he did another test
and had similar questionable results that may have been positive and he
was told to take it as a positive. The next day he did another test and
it came back clearly negative.

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:22:36 PM1/6/22
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Didn't you just post that already?

--
This is NOT a post by Dave Smith

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:27:41 PM1/6/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 07:22:30 +1100, Dave Smith
This is my frogger. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

Gary

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:00:46 AM1/7/22
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There's a whole lot of big money being made during these panicdemic times.

Vaccines, testing, booster shots, testing. All 3 booster shots and more
constant testing, testing, testing. Waiting hours in lines to be tested.
Now a 4th booster shot will probably be necessary and more testing.

Masks, no masks, masks again. Ok to get back in public now. Oops, virus
is spiking again so quit going in public. Get tested, get tested...get
TESTED Dammit! Wear your mask unless you're tested

Now the new variation - combo of Covid and regular flu together. I can't
recall what they named that one. All y'all, don't forget your regular
flu vaccination either. And wear a mask in public, or not. Be sure to
get tested.




Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:30:20 AM1/7/22
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Do I understand correctly that you don't like complicated situations?

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 7, 2022, 6:02:28 AM1/7/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 5:00:46 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 1/6/2022 3:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:37:11 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >> I did an at home test, and it was negative.
> >
> > Those things suck and can't be trusted.
> >
> > -sw
> There's a whole lot of big money being made during these panicdemic times.

Why do you hate capitalism?

> Vaccines, testing, booster shots, testing. All 3 booster shots and more
> constant testing, testing, testing. Waiting hours in lines to be tested.
> Now a 4th booster shot will probably be necessary and more testing.
>
> Masks, no masks, masks again. Ok to get back in public now. Oops, virus
> is spiking again so quit going in public. Get tested, get tested...get
> TESTED Dammit! Wear your mask unless you're tested
>
> Now the new variation - combo of Covid and regular flu together. I can't
> recall what they named that one. All y'all, don't forget your regular
> flu vaccination either. And wear a mask in public, or not. Be sure to
> get tested.

Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Keep your distance. Use your brain.

Not complicated at all.

Cindy Hamilton

Mike Duffy

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:16:33 AM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:02:25 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Keep your distance. Use your brain.
> Not complicated at all.

If in Quebec, there is again a 10 PM to 5 AM curfew. We are not even
allowed to walk the dog during the curfew.

The worse part is, everyone knows the major spreaders are non-vaxed &
children. But the politicians need to be seen as 'doing something'. I'm
just glad I don't need to put a mask on my dog.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:35:00 AM1/7/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 9:16:33 AM UTC-5, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:02:25 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Keep your distance. Use your brain.
> > Not complicated at all.
> If in Quebec, there is again a 10 PM to 5 AM curfew. We are not even
> allowed to walk the dog during the curfew.

In the city, I presume. Is there a prohibition against being outside in
your own yard between 10 pm and 5 am?

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:45:25 AM1/7/22
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Of course. It is the way Canadian governments work. When you have a
problem with a group that refuses to comply with laws and common sense
you make stiffer laws that will end up being obeyed by those who had not
been a problem. They learned this from the Liberal's idiotic strategy
on gun control. When you have a problem with a small group of criminals
who apparently refuse to obey the law you impose ever stricter controls
on the licensed gun owners who have not been a problem. The anti gun
lobby is thrilled to see they are getting their way and the criminals
are unaffected.


Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:25:41 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:16:28 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy <mxd...@bell.net>
wrote:
The only way is to do what Macron said: "I'm going to piss the
unvaccinated off". Allow them to do less and less. Until they get so
annoyed they'll ask for a vaccination. Then you'll be left with a
handful of kooks who live in the hills and have to send a vaccinated
family member out to get their groceries for them.

US Janet

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:31:38 PM1/7/22
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Thank you Cindy! The last part is the most important.
Janet US

US Janet

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:40:42 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 05:01:18 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

So what are you saying? The whole virus thing (over time since you
include the flu) is a money making scheme made up to rob the
public????12
Your disbelief and criticism of all things government causes you
problems.
Janet US

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:05:35 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:40:24 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:10:21 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:31:33 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:11:34 PM1/7/22
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Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point. I threw
away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:12:41 PM1/7/22
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Of course a dog would fight off a mask, a dog is smart enough to
understand that a mask hampers breathing, and does little else.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:19:58 PM1/7/22
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Don't get too close to old people. You might kill them. Let death
commence.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:20:43 PM1/7/22
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The dog thinks like you. Very telling :)

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:24:12 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Dave Smith

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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 06:20:37 +1100, Dave Smith
Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:27:07 PM1/7/22
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Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:27:36 PM1/7/22
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Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:35:26 PM1/7/22
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I have to admit that there is some reason to be skeptical of some of the
claims made by authorities over the course of the pandemic. I have
remarked on my objections to be told to "follow the science" when the
information is based more on anecdotes than in empirical science.

At the beginning we were told that we didn't need to wear masks. As it
turned out, they were concerned about the shortage of masks and other
PPE and didn't want people hording them. Once there was a good supply of
masks we were told we have to be masked.

Then the vaccines came out. There were reviews of the various vaccines
and Pfizer was among the most effective. Within a couple months we
found that it was not as effective as we had been told and that after a
couple months its effectiveness had dropped to a small fraction of the
original projection, so we needed a second shot. It was supposed to
raise protection above that of the original shot and should be given
within a certain time frame. Well, hell, a lot of people still hadn't
had their first shot, so the extended the time between the shots.

Now those second shots are only providing about 65% protection, not the
95% + we had been told, so we have to get a third booster. The booster
would be best within a few months but.... we still had a lot of
unvaccinated people and those who had only one shot... so now it can be
6 months.

When I went for my booster I was supposed to get Pfizer again. I got to
the clinic and I got a spiel about how for my age group I would be
better off with Moderna. I was suspicious. Here we are a week and a bit
after the booster and I heard on a news report that the are pushing the
Moderna for older folks so there will be enough Pfizer for the younger
people.


What it comes down to is that the things they tell us seem to have more
to do with their supplies than the real data.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:41:23 PM1/7/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:35:26 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

> What it comes down to is that the things they tell us seem to have more
> to do with their supplies than the real data.

Supplies are part of the data. Public policy isn't just about what's
the "best" thing; it's about what's achievable for the most people.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:43:07 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:43:34 PM1/7/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:

> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.

I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.

> I threw
> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.

I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.

Life never stopped. Except for dining in restaurants, I still do everything
I was doing before the pandemic. Just more carefully.

Cindy Hamilton

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:04:23 PM1/7/22
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Everything Cindy said. Up until about 5 weeks ago, we were meeting my
in-laws every Sunday for early lunch at our fave taqueria, but this Omicron
strain put a stop to that.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:05:44 PM1/7/22
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Graham

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:07:46 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 14:11:36 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:

>
> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point. I threw
> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.

What an incredibly stupid, thoughtless and irresponsible thing to do!
It's actions like this that help perpetuate the spread.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:13:48 PM1/7/22
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Pea brain don't know no better.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:23:21 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:07:39 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:23:55 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:44:57 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 11:43:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.
>
>I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
>virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.

LOL. It's never been milder and unlikely to get any milder than it is
now. Omicron is the variant everyone needs to contract.


Mike Duffy

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:52:57 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:34:57 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> In the city, I presume. Is there a prohibition against being outside in
> your own yard between 10 pm and 5 am?

City or rural, you are allowed on your own property; not on the street.

You are not allowed to be driving around unless commuting to work, &c.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 6:11:17 PM1/7/22
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I have friends whose son and DiL were working in Jordan when this
nonsense started. They were not allowed to take their dogs their business.

Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 6:17:23 PM1/7/22
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So many ludicrous rules that make no sense. We can take off our masks
in pubs and restaurants IF sitting down. Standing up in the same spot?
Must wear a mask.

One good thing here is that many businesses are ignoring many of the
'mandates' where possible. We went to a pub for NYE, I and many others
should have been refused entry due to not being 'double vaccinated'.
nobody checked, nobody cared, either. No one wore masks.

Mike Duffy

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Jan 7, 2022, 6:30:25 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:45:19 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> The anti gun lobby is thrilled to see they are
> getting their way and the criminals are unaffected.

No. Criminal gun traders are thrilled their profit margin went up.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 7:01:36 PM1/7/22
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On 2022-01-07 6:17 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 18:11:12 -0500, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>> I have friends whose son and DiL were working in Jordan when this
>> nonsense started. They were not allowed to take their dogs their business.
>
> So many ludicrous rules that make no sense. We can take off our masks
> in pubs and restaurants IF sitting down. Standing up in the same spot?
> Must wear a mask.

You have to wear a mask going into bars here, but once you get to your
place you can take it off.

You can remove your mask to consume food. The day I went for my booster
there was a couple guys coming into the mall. One of them was carrying a
cup of coffee so he had his mask pulled down. I guess he figured he fit
the exemption anywhere in the mall so long as he had a drink in hand.
Maybe that help to explain why we are back to restaurants being closed.

>
> One good thing here is that many businesses are ignoring many of the
> 'mandates' where possible. We went to a pub for NYE, I and many others
> should have been refused entry due to not being 'double vaccinated'.
> nobody checked, nobody cared, either. No one wore masks.

I go by my second name and that is what is on my driver license. My
health card and vaccine passport have my first name. We have to show our
QR codes and photo ID to eat in restaurants and to get into gyms and the
local community centre. I have had to show them many times. No one has
noticed that they are two different names.


Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 7:26:05 PM1/7/22
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QR codes simplify things. You can get it tattooed on your forehead and
a scanner at the door will open if you are up to date.

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 7, 2022, 7:38:30 PM1/7/22
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And the number of the QR code is the number of a man,
and that number is six hundred threescore and six.

--Bryan

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 7:58:37 PM1/7/22
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On 1/7/2022 14:43, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.
>
> I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
> virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.
>
>> I threw
>> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.
>
> I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.

I wish I could say the same. They are intolerable. Typically more so
for people with eye glasses.

> Life never stopped. Except for dining in restaurants, I still do everything
> I was doing before the pandemic. Just more carefully.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I've always avoided people, but I have an excuse to do it now.

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 8:03:20 PM1/7/22
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It's spread everywhere, there is no stopping it, unless everyone hides
inside for a month or so, but people won't ever do that. Not during the
initial lock downs, not ever. Not enough to matter, anyway.

"The spread" could have been stopped from the beginning, but poor
actions and response made it a losing uphill battle. We're now dealing
with the least lethal, most easily spread strand of all. I can't tell
you how many people at work have gone home because of COVID. The no
longer shut down the building as they did just months ago, because it
would NEVER be open. Same for people at the antique mall, many have had
the virus lately. Many of the vaccinated folks have had it, BTW. If
you're at high risk, avoid people, and wash your hands. I do that
regardless.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 7, 2022, 8:23:26 PM1/7/22
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So, you don't trust canada health system any more?


Hank Rogers

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Jan 7, 2022, 8:30:20 PM1/7/22
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I think you have to be a republican to appreciate how life
threatening a mask can be.


Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 8:32:09 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 19:25:56 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 7:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Yes. My guess is in the future, everything will have QR codes. On this
rock, we have to QR code upon awakening each day. Soon, you'll have to
QR code each and every poo you do. Just in case any SARS like
antibodies may be detected at the treatment works.

https://vimeo.com/663531738

dsi1

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:21:11 PM1/7/22
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I used to work for a company that made bar code readers. You had a badge with your personal bar code ID. You used it to punch in and out. When you started a job, you'd scan your ID badge and then the job ID. It was quite a system. Of course, your bosses knew what you were doing for every minute of the day. That was pretty cool.

GM

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:50:30 PM1/7/22
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France, for instance, has one of the most formidable militaries in Europe, can project force to
other continents rapidly when it needs to, and possesses nearly 300 nuclear warheads.

But nobody in the US worries about France’s military capabilities because the French aren’t about
to order an invasion of the US mainland.

Of course, North Korea isn’t France.

Policymakers need to stop viewing North Korea as suicidal and start viewing it as a rational
actor whose ultimate objective is self-preservation. Only through a realistic analysis can
Washington begin to form a North Korea policy that actually works.

</>

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:44:10 AM1/8/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 19:58:39 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 14:43, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.
>>
>> I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
>> virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.
>>
>>> I threw
>>> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.
>>
>> I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.
>
>I wish I could say the same. They are intolerable. Typically more so
>for people with eye glasses.

Drama queens, snowflakes. I put that thing on my face and I almost
forget to take it off the rest of the day. Don't bother me none.

Gary

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Jan 8, 2022, 5:10:53 AM1/8/22
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Michael Trew wrote:
> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.  I threw
> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago.  Let life commence.

I still wear one when going in stores. It's a good defense, why toss it
out when the vaccines are not working.

No big deal to me to wear one in a grocery store for about 30 minutes.
And if I walk to my local convenience store, only about 5 minutes
inside. Shopping early eliminates large crowds too.

Now that it's getting cold early, I often wear it while walking to the
store or just doing a morning walk. Not for antivirus but just to
breathe warm air.

Gary

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On 1/7/2022 2:12 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/7/2022 9:16, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:02:25 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Get vaccinated.  Wear a mask.  Keep your distance.  Use your brain.
>>> Not complicated at all.
>>
>> If in Quebec, there is again a 10 PM to 5 AM curfew. We are not even
>> allowed to walk the dog during the curfew.
>>
>> The worse part is, everyone knows the major spreaders are non-vaxed&
>> children. But the politicians need to be seen as 'doing something'. I'm
>> just glad I don't need to put a mask on my dog.
>
> Of course a dog would fight off a mask, a dog is smart enough to
> understand that a mask hampers breathing, and does little else.

I told this story back in the beginning of Covid (almost 2 years now)
and I don't think you showed up here yet???

Anyway, I was doing a morning walk in the neighborhood one morning and
passed a neighbor with a small dog. She was wearing her mask and her dog
had a mask around his neck (but not over his nose and mouth).

Funny, so I asked her about that.
Getting ready for their morning walk, she put on her mask and the dog
looked at her curiously like, "Hey, what about me? I want one of those
too."

So she put one around his neck and he seemed happy. LOL


Dave Smith

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 05:11:26 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

> Michael Trew wrote:
>> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.  I threw
>> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago.  Let life commence.
>
>I still wear one when going in stores. It's a good defense, why toss it
>out when the vaccines are not working.

What? We're getting a booster shot. And now Gary says it won't help!
Damn!

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 8, 2022, 6:08:07 AM1/8/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 7:58:37 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/7/2022 14:43, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> >> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.
> >
> > I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
> > virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.
> >
> >> I threw
> >> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.
> >
> > I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.
> I wish I could say the same. They are intolerable. Typically more so
> for people with eye glasses.

I wear glasses. You really are a snowflake.

Wearing an N-95 mask is not nearly as annoying as the organic vapor
respirator I was wearing for a couple of hours last Saturday.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary

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Jan 8, 2022, 6:47:33 AM1/8/22
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On 1/7/2022 3:04 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:43:34 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.
>> I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
>> virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.
>>> I threw
>>> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.
>> I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.
>>
>> Life never stopped. Except for dining in restaurants, I still do everything
>> I was doing before the pandemic. Just more carefully.
>>
> Everything Cindy said. Up until about 5 weeks ago, we were meeting my
> in-laws every Sunday for early lunch at our fave taqueria, but this Omicron
> strain put a stop to that.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> --Bryan

Best to stay at home every chance you get until ALL this mess is gone.
Use your head and don't listen to our "fearless leaders."


Gary

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Jan 8, 2022, 8:08:38 AM1/8/22
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On 1/7/2022 7:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-01-07 6:17 p.m., Je�us wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 18:11:12 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have friends whose son and DiL were working in Jordan when this
>>> nonsense started. They were not allowed to take their dogs their
>>> business.
>>
>> So many ludicrous rules that make no sense. We can take off our masks
>> in pubs and restaurants IF sitting down. Standing up in the same spot?
>> Must wear a mask.
>
> You have to wear a mask going into bars here, but once you get to your
> place you can take it off.
>
> You can remove your mask to consume food. The day I went for my booster
> there was a couple guys coming into the mall. One of them was carrying a
> cup of coffee so he had his mask pulled down.  I guess he figured he fit
> the exemption anywhere in the mall so long as he had a drink in hand.
> Maybe that help to explain why we are back to restaurants being closed.
>
>>
>> One good thing here is that many businesses are ignoring many of the
>> 'mandates' where possible. We went to a pub for NYE, I and many others
>> should have been refused entry due to not being 'double vaccinated'.
>> nobody checked, nobody cared, either. No one wore masks.

You call that a good thing, Dave? Ignoring masks are what keeps this
virus problem alive. It's not the unvacinnated spreading this, it's the
completely vaccinated going out in public with no masks thinking it's
all ok now.

Fully vaccinated are still getting and spreading it. People are "over
it" (the restrictions) but it's still too soon to be "over it."

These days, earth seems to be a haven for imbeciles. Many more people
will die unnecessarily before this fades away.



Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 8, 2022, 9:12:49 AM1/8/22
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Maybe. Maybe not. The only way to know for sure is to contract it
and see afterwards whether it was nothing, long COVID, or death.

Too much like Russian Roulette for my taste.

Cindy Hamilton

bob

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Jan 8, 2022, 9:59:33 AM1/8/22
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On 2022-01-07 11:02:25 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said:

> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 5:00:46 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> On 1/6/2022 3:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:37:11 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did an at home test, and it was negative.
>>>
>>> Those things suck and can't be trusted.
>>>
>>> -sw
>> There's a whole lot of big money being made during these panicdemic times.
>
> Why do you hate capitalism?
>
>> Vaccines, testing, booster shots, testing. All 3 booster shots and more
>> constant testing, testing, testing. Waiting hours in lines to be tested.
>> Now a 4th booster shot will probably be necessary and more testing.
>>
>> Masks, no masks, masks again. Ok to get back in public now. Oops, virus
>> is spiking again so quit going in public. Get tested, get tested...get
>> TESTED Dammit! Wear your mask unless you're tested
>>
>> Now the new variation - combo of Covid and regular flu together. I can't
>> recall what they named that one. All y'all, don't forget your regular
>> flu vaccination either. And wear a mask in public, or not. Be sure to
>> get tested.
>
> Get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Keep your distance. Use your brain.
>
> Not complicated at all.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Yes. Your formula is simple and about all we can do as individuals.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:22:48 AM1/8/22
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On 2022-01-08 8:09 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 1/7/2022 7:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-01-07 6:17 p.m., Je�us wrote:

>>> One good thing here is that many businesses are ignoring many of the
>>> 'mandates' where possible. We went to a pub for NYE, I and many others
>>> should have been refused entry due to not being 'double vaccinated'.
>>> nobody checked, nobody cared, either. No one wore masks.
>
> You call that a good thing, Dave?

??? You have your attribution wrong. I did not write tht.


> Ignoring masks are what keeps this
> virus problem alive. It's not the unvacinnated spreading this, it's the
> completely vaccinated going out in public with no masks thinking it's
> all ok now.
>

I had commented about the dipshit walking through the mall with his mask
down and his coffee cup in hand. The exemption from masking is for
people in restaurants not for people walking around.



> Fully vaccinated are still getting and spreading it. People are "over
> it" (the restrictions) but it's still too soon to be "over it."
>
> These days, earth seems to be a haven for imbeciles. Many more people
> will die unnecessarily before this fades away.
>

It seems that every time restrictions are lifted there is another surge
in infections.

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:25:16 AM1/8/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/7/2022 14:43, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.
> I wish I could say the same. They are intolerable. Typically more so
> for people with eye glasses.
>
And people with glass eyes. Remember glass eyes? They were
a much bigger thing when I was a kid. Heck, some kids, if you
said, "glass eye," they'd be like, "Huh?" These kids these days.
Why, I bet if there was a guy who took out his glass eye, kids
these days would get all freaked out. When we were kids we'd
have been all, "How cool!"

I read this to my wife and she said, "It really was like that."

--Bryan

Graham

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:33:19 AM1/8/22
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On 2022-01-08 6:09 a.m., Gary wrote:

>
> You call that a good thing, Dave? Ignoring masks are what keeps this
> virus problem alive. It's not the unvacinnated spreading this, it's the
> completely vaccinated going out in public with no masks thinking it's
> all ok now.
>
> Fully vaccinated are still getting and spreading it. People are "over
> it" (the restrictions) but it's still too soon to be "over it."
>
> These days, earth seems to be a haven for imbeciles. Many more people
> will die unnecessarily before this fades away.
>
>
>
It was announced on the news this morning that yet another
anti-covid/antivax crusader, who was prominent on social media and who
advocated execution for Fauci, has snuffed it from covid.

Graham

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:42:52 AM1/8/22
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On 2022-01-08 8:40 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
> Graham wrote :
>
>> It was announced on the news this morning that yet another
>> anti-covid/antivax crusader, who was prominent on social media and who
>> advocated execution for Fauci, has snuffed it from covid.
>
> So . . . Darwin got it right.
>
As you quote: You can't fix stupid!

jmcquown

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:45:29 AM1/8/22
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I've never actually met anyone who had a glass eye. I did get new eye
glasses late last year and had to pull my mask down. The mask fogged up
the phoropter.

Jill

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:50:59 AM1/8/22
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We can share a shadenfreude moment.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:51:53 AM1/8/22
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On 2022-01-08 10:40 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
> Graham wrote :
>
>> It was announced on the news this morning that yet another
>> anti-covid/antivax crusader, who was prominent on social media and who
>> advocated execution for Fauci, has snuffed it from covid.
>
> So . . . Darwin got it right.
>

Only if the person died before procreating. Let's keep our fingers
crossed he was not a parent.

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:52:24 AM1/8/22
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On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 9:45:29 AM UTC-6, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
> On 1/8/2022 10:25 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
> >> On 1/7/2022 14:43, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.
> >> I wish I could say the same. They are intolerable. Typically more so
> >> for people with eye glasses.
> >>
> > And people with glass eyes. Remember glass eyes? They were
> > a much bigger thing when I was a kid. Heck, some kids, if you
> > said, "glass eye," they'd be like, "Huh?" These kids these days.
> > Why, I bet if there was a guy who took out his glass eye, kids
> > these days would get all freaked out. When we were kids we'd
> > have been all, "How cool!"
> >
> > I read this to my wife and she said, "It really was like that."
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> I've never actually met anyone who had a glass eye.
>
Me neither, but you wanted to, right?
>
> Jill

--Bryan

Lucretia Borgia

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Jan 8, 2022, 10:58:09 AM1/8/22
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Couldn't happen to a better person, now it doesn't matter they are
unvaccinated. Here in Canada I heard a stat today that 60% of the
people in hospital with Covid are unvaccinated.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:01:43 AM1/8/22
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I have had to wear a mask for my last two eye exams. It is not to bad
with they are giving you the two correction choices. Reading the letters
is tricky because as soon as you start reading them out your glasses fog
up.

Speaking of which, in a few weeks I have two appointments with my
opthamologist. The first one will be with one of his staff for tests and
imaging. The consultation is a week later. My right eye is still messed
up. I have few problems with both eyes open but the centre field of the
right eye is still too blurry to read anything. I can see objects there,
but cannot read letters. He said it should improve but will never be
100% again.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:04:38 AM1/8/22
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Some people read that as meaning that you can still get sick after
vaccination and that you can be sick enough to be hospitalized. They
seem to have trouble with the mathematics of that 60% coming from only
10% of the population.

Lucretia Borgia

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 10:45:21 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
If they are well done, it is sometimes difficult to know. We had a
young soccer player who had to have one. He had several sessions with
an artist so she could match the colouring in his good eye and when
the bad eye was out, they were able to leave the back of the eye so
that there was some movement. However, he used to prank a lot by
taking it out, it offended the squeamish. He had simply had a flu
virus which settled in his eye, not unusual apparently, deadly if it
goes to the heart.

Graham

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:25:46 AM1/8/22
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When I was at school, "Snowy" Snell in the senior school had a glass eye
and used to take it out to play marbles!!!

jmcquown

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:26:55 AM1/8/22
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When I was at the grocery store yesterday I noticed a young man who was
bagging groceries at the next checkout stand. He had on a mask (all
Publix employees are required to wear one). All the customers were
wearing masks, too, including myself. What was disturbing is this young
man was wearing his mask under his nose and I noticed he kept rubbing
his nose, then bagging peoples food. WTF?! He may as well not have
been wearing a mask and then to see him using his hand to wipe his nose
several times then touch the food... I'm glad I was in a different
checkout lane.

Jill

Graham

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:34:34 AM1/8/22
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I would have reported him to the manager immediately.
One good thing about checkout staff having to wear masks is that you
don't get finger licking any more to open the plastic bags.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:37:35 AM1/8/22
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On 2022-01-08 11:26 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
Early in this pandemic one of town counsillers died of Covid and another
was sick with it. The one who got sick happened to own a major grocery
store in town and had been seen coughing and sniffling at work and not
wearing a mask... before they were mandated. The suggestion was that he
obviously gave it to the guy who died. Heaven forbid it might have been
the other way around.

The same week that happened I was at another local grocery store and
there was a woman stocking produce. She was wearing gloves. I saw her
cough into her hand and then proceed to handle the produce with the hand
she had just coughed into.

US Janet

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:40:23 AM1/8/22
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 08:09:12 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 7:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
the Earth is just culling and tidying up. Ever watch those archeology
TV programs and wonder what happened to wipe out a certain
civilization? The Earth has been through this many times and takes
care of the disarray and dirt and hostilities. My thoughts.
Janet US

US Janet

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:43:18 AM1/8/22
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 08:33:11 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

Did you also read that his group believes they were attacked with some
sort of poison spray? Or were you mentioning a different guy this
week?
Janet US

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 8, 2022, 11:44:44 AM1/8/22
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The Earth isn't doing a darned thing. People are doing it to themselves.

Cindy Hamilton

US Janet

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:07:50 PM1/8/22
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Would you prefer Cosmos? I'm viewing the whole. Weather change,
disease, wars and hostilities, elimination of species, and on and on.
Still, if you insist, people are participating in population control
and thankfully some of the antivaxxers are being rewarded.
Do you deny Cause and Effect?
Janet US

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:29:31 PM1/8/22
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 03:08:03 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 7:58:37 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 1/7/2022 14:43, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>> >
>> >> Doesn't matter, we're all going to live or die at this point.
>> >
>> > I'd prefer not to contract COVID until it has mutated into a less
>> > virulent strain. I'd rather live than die.
>> >
>> >> I threw
>> >> away the miserably uncomfortable masks months ago. Let life commence.
>> >
>> > I don't find the masks all that uncomfortable.
>> I wish I could say the same. They are intolerable. Typically more so
>> for people with eye glasses.
>
>I wear glasses. You really are a snowflake.

A redneck looking for a problem to support his case, grasping at
straws. "Oh, the mask is so uncomfortable for little me!" Old people
better stay away from him. He might kill them.

--
This is NOT a post by Dave Smith

jmcquown

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:30:55 PM1/8/22
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I heard on some wack-o news report it's all the fault of movie director
Stephen Spielburg. ;)

Jill

jmcquown

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:37:15 PM1/8/22
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You're right, I should have done that.

> One good thing about checkout staff having to wear masks is that you
> don't get finger licking any more to open the plastic bags.

Publix Supermarkets switched to paper bags years ago. It had nothing to
do with Covid-19, more about recycling plastic bag concerns. They have
bins in front of the store for recycling plastic bags, foam egg cartons,
plastic bottles, etc.

Jill

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:37:17 PM1/8/22
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 08:09:12 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 7:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>You call that a good thing, Dave? Ignoring masks are what keeps this
>virus problem alive. It's not the unvacinnated spreading this, it's the
>completely vaccinated going out in public with no masks thinking it's
>all ok now.
>
>Fully vaccinated are still getting and spreading it.
>
Reports about this vary. I often hear that fully vaccinated are less
likely to get it and if they get it, they get it lighter and are less
likely to pass it on. The unvaccinated, however, are fountains of joy.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:42:13 PM1/8/22
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 10:22:44 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>It seems that every time restrictions are lifted there is another surge
>in infections.

Our state government lifted restrictions even though they knew omicron
was coming. Now some restrictions are back but in the meantime
everybody has already infected each other. Politicians should never be
in charge of practical things. They're only good at talking without
saying anything.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:44:03 PM1/8/22
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 08:33:11 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

Yet covid is "only a flu".

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:45:52 PM1/8/22
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Schadenfreude.

Dave Smith

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Jan 8, 2022, 12:46:45 PM1/8/22
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True. It would be more Darwinian if covid killed young dumb people,
instead of old people.
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