OT DocuSign docs that don't work SUCK!

[John Kuthe]

Now I'm waiting for 8AM PST to call to figure out WTF!

10AM CST!

Fucking DocuSign! :-( And it's only 9:32 CST!

Electronics SUCK when they do not work as they SHOULD!

John Kuthe...

[Cindy Hamilton]

Just another half hour to go. You have the patience of a four year old
who needs the potty really, really bad.

Cindy Hamilton

[Taxed and Spent]

and the potty mouth.

[Gary]

I have very little patience for people that sleep late and
start to work late. There are many stores that never get
my business because of that.

In my work life, I've always started early so I could come
home early and have life after work each day. I've always
gotten home by 3:30 latest. Plenty of time for a real
life especially in the summer when it stays light until 9pm

Even many restaurants don't open until 11am. By then, I'm
over going out again just for food. Fuck em.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 11:43:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 10:34:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > Now I'm waiting for 8AM PST to call to figure out WTF!
> > >
> > > 10AM CST!
> > >
> > > Fucking DocuSign! :-( And it's only 9:32 CST!
> > >
> > > Electronics SUCK when they do not work as they SHOULD!
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > Just another half hour to go. You have the patience of a four year old
> > who needs the potty really, really bad.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> I have very little patience for people that sleep late and
> start to work late. There are many stores that never get
> my business because of that.

My company's official hours are 8-5. That's pretty much what I
expect of any professional organization, which is probably what
Kuthe's dealing with, since he's whining about DocuSign. Opening
at 8:00 Pacific time is reasonable for an office located in that
time zone.

Stores are open during the hours when they can maximize their revenue.
There's no point opening at 6 am if they're only going to get three
customers between 6 and 10 am.

> In my work life, I've always started early so I could come
> home early and have life after work each day. I've always
> gotten home by 3:30 latest. Plenty of time for a real
> life especially in the summer when it stays light until 9pm

Not every employer offers that kind of flexibility. I come in
between 7:30 and 8, and leave around 5, usually.

> Even many restaurants don't open until 11am. By then, I'm
> over going out again just for food. Fuck em.

11 am is a good opening time for restaurants that serve lunch.
Most normal people are ready for lunch between 11 and 1.

The world isn't set up for your eccentric convenience.

Cindy Hamilton

[GM]

What's the prob? I signed up for Docusign in March, works like a charm, and no problems. They have plenty of online assistance/tutorials for further exploration. Same with Smallpdf...

I am about as stoopid re: IT matters as it gets, and if *I* can figure it out, any fool can...


--
Best
Greg

[dsi1]

All you have to do is go West, young man. On this rock, you can do business with companies on the East coast at 4 AM. I used to get calls at 4 AM back in the old days. That was a lot of fun! OTOH, I used to have to make calls with some companies before 10 AM or else they'd be closed. These days, some companies will have people stay 3 hours later for Westerners. That's a great convenience for us but it must be kind of a shity shift for them.

[John Kuthe]

It could NOT do it online, I had to print out and find the docs in my H&R Block tax documents and put copies in and mail it back to them.

Never had a DocuSign doc. do me so! Usually they are self contained!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 1:10:19 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:

[Thomas]

I work 5.45 to 2.15.
Up for coffee at 3.45 weekdays. I love it being light out when i get home. Pennsylvania.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 2:53:31 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> It could NOT do it online, I had to print out and find the docs in my H&R Block tax documents and put copies in and mail it back to them.
>
> Never had a DocuSign doc. do me so! Usually they are self contained!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Couldn't you have scanned the documents and then faxed back or sent them
back as an attachment?

[jmcquown]

I don't know what he's blethering about now. Having worked at H&R Block
I know for a fact he could have emailed those documents to the tax pro.
Whether or not he has the capability to scan them is a totally different
matter.

Jill

[Alex]

I've used them dozens of times without a problem.  Very simple.

[Hank Rogers]

He needs to move out of da Loo, and slide on up to Bothell.

[jmcquown]

On 6/15/2020 12:54 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 11:43:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 10:34:21 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> Now I'm waiting for 8AM PST to call to figure out WTF!
>>>>
>>>> 10AM CST!
>>>>
>>>> Fucking DocuSign! :-( And it's only 9:32 CST!
>>>>
>>>> Electronics SUCK when they do not work as they SHOULD!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> Just another half hour to go. You have the patience of a four year old
>>> who needs the potty really, really bad.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I have very little patience for people that sleep late and
>> start to work late. There are many stores that never get
>> my business because of that.
>
> My company's official hours are 8-5. That's pretty much what I
> expect of any professional organization, which is probably what
> Kuthe's dealing with, since he's whining about DocuSign. Opening
> at 8:00 Pacific time is reasonable for an office located in that
> time zone.
>

Kuthe seems to be whining about H&R Block and having to electronically
sign some documents. I know for a fact the offices open based on time
zone and corporate mandate. He's on Central time and so is that office.
Open apparently at 8:00AM. He's whining about docusign...

> Stores are open during the hours when they can maximize their revenue.
> There's no point opening at 6 am if they're only going to get three
> customers between 6 and 10 am.
>

Costs a lot of money to be open when you know there won't be any customers.

(snippage)

>> Even many restaurants don't open until 11am. By then, I'm
>> over going out again just for food. Fuck em.
>
> 11 am is a good opening time for restaurants that serve lunch.
> Most normal people are ready for lunch between 11 and 1.
>

Sometimes between 11-2. :)

> The world isn't set up for your eccentric convenience.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

That's a great phrase, Cindy! "eccentric convenience". I don't want to
go to the grocery store at 6AM. I'm not interested in getting up at
4:30AM to see the sun come up, either. Gary is a different sort.

Jill

[John Kuthe]

Me too, before THIS tomfoolery!

John Kuthe...

[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:
>
> That's a great phrase, Cindy! "eccentric convenience". I don't want to
> go to the grocery store at 6AM.

They don't open that early these days...the virus mess.
I still go early though, no crowds ever.

> I'm not interested in getting up at
> 4:30AM to see the sun come up, either.

That's your loss, imo. You don't even know what
you're missing.

> Gary is a different sort.

True enough. I like nature and early morning is best.
The sunrises, the very vibrant colors on trees just
as the sun starts to shine on them. All the early
morning people are nice, friendly people and not
the egg-heads that stay out all night then sleep all
day.

I'm an outdoor active person and you are an urban
princess that just likes hanging out at home reading
either indoors or out on your back porch.

Nothing wrong with either of us. Just two different
personalities.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 9:01:26 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > That's a great phrase, Cindy! "eccentric convenience". I don't want to
> > go to the grocery store at 6AM.
>
> They don't open that early these days...the virus mess.
> I still go early though, no crowds ever.

"They" might. My grocery store opens at 6 am these days (where
it used to be open 24 hours).

> > I'm not interested in getting up at
> > 4:30AM to see the sun come up, either.
>
> That's your loss, imo. You don't even know what
> you're missing.

I get up early, but I'm always too busy to look at the sunrise. In
any event, it's well up over the horizon before I can see it because
we have many mature trees in my neighborhood.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

If shopping for perishables (meats/produce) I like to shop early when
the perishables were just put out before people pick it over. When
shopping for nonperishables I'll shop later or whenever it's
convienient for me. Has nothing to do with crowds, there are never
any crowds here regardless of time. In fact there are crowds here
just before dawn, herds of deer and other critters all over the roads.

[jmcquown]

There are lots of extremely mature trees here, too, Cindy. Live oaks
and pine. The sun rises to the southeast of me. Even if I was awake, I
can't see it. I can't see the sunset, either, unless there's a blazing
sky after a tropical storm. I had to run across the street to the
neighbors house to take this picture of the sky looking like it was on fire:

https://i.postimg.cc/xT6FycYf/sunset914.jpg

Not everything with nature happens early in the morning :)

I've got wildlife around constantly. A herd of does (7 of them) walked
around in my back yard at dusk last night, foraging. Birds always drop
by to take a dip in my small bird bath.

There's a blue-tailed skink in the garage. No doubt finding bugs to eat
that I'd rather not have come into the house. Don't want the lizard in
the house, either. Still, there's no source of water for it so I wish
it would find its' way out when I have the garage door open.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 11:06:35 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> There are lots of extremely mature trees here, too, Cindy. I had to run

> across the street to the
> neighbors house to take this picture of the sky looking like it was on fire:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/xT6FycYf/sunset914.jpg
>
>

That's the way the trees are around me, too. The Titans stadium is 2 miles
due west of me and my former co-worker can't understand why I can't see the
fireworks even though I am on a rise above the stadium. She can't understand
why it's not a clear shot to view them. Trees I keep telling her, trees. But
she doesn't understand.

[Sheldon Martin]

The closer the trees the more view they block, it's their height too
but its more the open space to what you are viewing. We can see the
fireworks at the golf course over our barn because there are no trees
for over 350 feet from our house to our barn. When we moved here the
last owners had planted Norway spruce trees in front of each widow,
they weren't very tall yet for Norway spruce, but at arms reach from
the windows they blocked ALL the view, first week we were here I had
them all removed. I planted more suitable trees that don't block the
view. I don't like conefirs near the house anyway, they are a major
fire hazard, in hot dry weather their resin can spontaneously explode
in flames... that's how most forest fires start... and of course the
park service is too stupid, lazy, and cheap to construct fire breaks.
Most relatively recent major destructive forest fires occured under
Obama, he has zero knowlege of land management and anything else.
Australia knows even less... there was absolutely no reason for all
their fire destruction, and they still learned nothing, it will soon
happen again, and a lot worse... Aussies have to be the dumbest people
on the planet. I feel sorrow for all those critters, I feel no sorrow
for the dumb ass lazy beer sloshing Aussies.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:41:33 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>The closer the trees the more view they block, it's their height too
>but its more the open space to what you are viewing. We can see the
>fireworks at the golf course over our barn because there are no trees
>for over 350 feet from our house to our barn. When we moved here the
>last owners had planted Norway spruce trees in front of each widow,
>they weren't very tall yet for Norway spruce, but at arms reach from
>the windows they blocked ALL the view, first week we were here I had
>them all removed. I planted more suitable trees that don't block the
>view. I don't like conefirs near the house anyway, they are a major
>fire hazard, in hot dry weather their resin can spontaneously explode
>in flames... that's how most forest fires start...

Even in forests without conifers? That's amazing. Bloody tree!

>and of course the
>park service is too stupid, lazy, and cheap to construct fire breaks.
>Most relatively recent major destructive forest fires occured under
>Obama, he has zero knowlege of land management and anything else.
>Australia knows even less... there was absolutely no reason for all
>their fire destruction, and they still learned nothing, it will soon
>happen again, and a lot worse... Aussies have to be the dumbest people
>on the planet. I feel sorrow for all those critters, I feel no sorrow
>for the dumb ass lazy beer sloshing Aussies.

Have you ever heard of global warming? And did you know there are more
and more latte and chardy sipping Aussies?

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, it must be hell living in a world where everyone else is so
stupid.

[Hank Rogers]

Maybe, but none as intelligent as Popeye.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 2:41:37 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:

> Most relatively recent major destructive forest fires occured under
> Obama, he has zero knowlege of land management and anything else.

Which presidents had the level of knowledge of land management and
forestry that you require?

Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

NONE. Because none were as knowledgeable as Popeye!

[Hank Rogers]

*POPEYE FOR PRESIDENT!*

[GM]

I'd say or both of the Roosevelts...

;-)

--
Best
Greg

[Bruce]

lol

[Sheldon Martin]

Correct!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 18:58:44 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

Of course, the Roosevelts are Dutch.

[Hank Rogers]

You can tell by their wooden shoes.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Ok. Let's have FDR back.

Cindy Hamilton

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 16, , Bruce wrote
(in article<53kieftblh3nsbjpr...@4ax.com>):

> Of course, the Roosevelts are Dutch.

Sure, but they wouldn’t admit to it in a New York Minuit.

leo

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 16, , jmcquown wrote
(in article <a66GG.11840$DO2....@fx45.iad>)

> https://i.postimg.cc/xT6FycYf/sunset914.jpg

Nice picture!

> There's a blue-tailed skink in the garage. No doubt finding bugs to eat
> that I'd rather not have come into the house. Don't want the lizard in
> the house, either. Still, there's no source of water for it so I wish
> it would find its' way out when I have the garage door open.

The skink is doing you a favor by eating unwanted bugs. Do it a favor by
providing a low source of water with a ramp. Or not. It will leave or die
soon enough. Or a cat will get it.
I don’t mind wolf spiders in my house. Once in a while, they end up in
the bathtub which is a death trap. They can’t get out. I’ve provided a
piece of string as a ladder.
My wife tolerates my creepy benevolence, but she doesn’t like it. I will
kill a black widow spider on sight.

leo

[Bruce]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:38:18 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I guess they were ashamed of it.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote
(in article<pbtlefl92j0jgs9pr...@4ax.com>):

Shame on you! You appear not to know who the Dutch founder of New York was.
;-)

leo

[Bruce]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:27:24 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Peter Stuyvesant.
<https://shop.a-kerk.nl/images/products/6159003143.png>

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote

(in article<82vlef5ssrr3ivb72...@4ax.com>):

Peter Minuit.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Minuit>

Old Pete -->Minuit<-- bought Manhattan Island for twenty-four bucks. I’d
even do that today. Stuyvesant was just some punk wannabe who blundered in
later to undeserved fame. Hell, even Bed-Stuy has another guy named before
him. Pfffft!

leo

[Bruce]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:23:19 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>

wrote:

>On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote
>(in article<82vlef5ssrr3ivb72...@4ax.com>):
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:27:24 -0700, Leo<leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Shame on you! You appear not to know who the Dutch founder of New York was.
>> > ;-)
>>
>> Peter Stuyvesant.
>> <https://shop.a-kerk.nl/images/products/6159003143.png>
>
>Peter Minuit.
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Minuit>
>
>Old Pete -->Minuit<-- bought Manhattan Island for twenty-four bucks. I’d
>even do that today. Stuyvesant was just some punk wannabe who blundered in
>later to undeserved fame. Hell, even Bed-Stuy has another guy named before
>him. Pfffft!

So Peter Minuit -who I've never heard of- bought Manhattan and Peter
Stuyvesant founded New Amsterdam.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 18, , Bruce wrote
(in article<radmefhrh24pmb9kq...@4ax.com>):

> So Peter Minuit -who I've never heard of- bought Manhattan and Peter
> Stuyvesant founded New Amsterdam.

<https://www.biography.com/political-figure/peter-minuit>

Did your misbegotten education form the thoughts that you espouse today? I
could care less about Dutch history, but you should.
We have fun, but it’s 3 AM here, and I’m getting sleepy.
New York Minuit. Get it? I hope somebody does.

leo

[dsi1]

When I was growing up, there were skinks all over the place. These days they're all gone. They were taken over by geckos, which were taken over by anoles, now the anoles are being replaced by gold dust day geckos. My wife found a big one in some flowers she was buying. The florist requested that she leave the gecko because they eat the bugs. They are some of the most beautiful lizards ever.

I used to play with wolf spiders. They were quite cute. Those are gone too. The history of this rock is one species wiping out other species and extinction. I never knew nature was so unstable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZb3xi3OZKs

[Bruce]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:12:42 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I don't care more about US history than you do about Dutch history.
What's your problem?

[jmcquown]

LOL NYC was originally called 'New Amsterdam'. Even I know that.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 6/18/2020 12:55 AM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Jun 16, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article <a66GG.11840$DO2....@fx45.iad>)
>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/xT6FycYf/sunset914.jpg
>
> Nice picture!
>

Thank you! It was an amazing sunset. I can't see the sun rise even if
I get up that early. It's too far east and blocked by very large trees.

>> There's a blue-tailed skink in the garage. No doubt finding bugs to eat
>> that I'd rather not have come into the house. Don't want the lizard in
>> the house, either. Still, there's no source of water for it so I wish
>> it would find its' way out when I have the garage door open.
>
> The skink is doing you a favor by eating unwanted bugs. Do it a favor by
> providing a low source of water with a ramp. Or not. It will leave or die
> soon enough. Or a cat will get it.

Hopefully it will just leave. No cats have access to my garage. :)

> I don’t mind wolf spiders in my house. Once in a while, they end up in
> the bathtub which is a death trap. They can’t get out. I’ve provided a
> piece of string as a ladder.

Wow! Well, if they get into the bathtub I'm not helping them out. I
have been known to pick up a fairly large (no idea what kind) spider
with a Kleenex and toss it outside. *If* I can catch it. Spiders in
the house just plain creep me out.

The Agriope (aka "writing") spiders that spun flanking webs on either
side of my patio back in 2009 were another story. Beautiful large black
and yellow spiders with huge intricate webs. Facinating! (But please,
not inside the house!) A big storm tore up the webs and I've never seen
them since.

> My wife tolerates my creepy benevolence, but she doesn’t like it. I will
> kill a black widow spider on sight.
>
> leo
>

No black widow spiders around here, thank goodness. I just don't like
spiders (or any bugs) *in* my house. My cat Persia (RB) used to chase
and kill any bugs she found. Buffy couldn't care less. She doesn't
care about birds, either. She'll be sitting on the back of the couch
next to the large window by the hummingbird feeder. They buzz around
and she's all "ho-hum, time to take a nap". There are always birds at
the birdbath. She doesn't care.

Funny, she does notice lizards when they get in the house. Recently an
Anole lizard that was climbing up the sheers next to my desk. I managed
to catch it and put it out back before Buffy could turn it into a cat treat.

Lizards don't bother me but I really prefer they stay outside. One day
about two years ago I walked into the master bathroom and there was a
blue-tailed (brilliant blue!) skink just sitting there on the tile
floor. Oh, hello! Where did you come from? I went and got an empty
shoebox and dropped it over the skink. Then I slid a piece of cardboard
under it and carried it to the front door. I could feel it's feet
scrabbling. I let it out in the bushes along the front walkway.

Fortunately Buffy didn't see it. When I first adopted her (5 years ago)
another one of those skinks got into the house. I have a case full of
music CD's on the floor under a side table in the dining room. Buffy
kept futzing around it and I went to find out what was so interesting.
Oh! There's a blue tailed skink behind the box! We worked in tandem,
Buffy on one side, me on the other, trying to corner the skink so I
could grab it. It was comical! The skink got away from us and ran into
my bedroom. I have no idea what happened to it after that. We never
saw another sign of it.

Lizards are great for killing bugs but I'd prefer they reside outside.
Spiders, too. And oh, Palmetto bugs. Disgusting things. Persia used
to kill them. Buffy pays no attention to them. I spray all around the
doors to keep the bugs out. I'm a firm believer in pesticides when it
comes to keeping those damned Palmetto bugs out of my house.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 11:20:28 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I spray all around the
> doors to keep the bugs out. I'm a firm believer in pesticides when it
> comes to keeping those damned Palmetto bugs out of my house.
>
> Jill
>

From the outside of the house, spray into your dryer exhaust opening
as creepy crawlers can access that and come visit you.

[jmcquown]

I haven't run into bugs or lizards in the laundry room. I do have an
attachment that fits on the vacuum cleaner hose to clear out the dryer
and the vent. Mostly it's just lint. I haven't seen any dead critter
parts in the vacuum cleaner.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:29:30 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I haven't run into bugs or lizards in the laundry room. I do have an
> attachment that fits on the vacuum cleaner hose to clear out the dryer
> and the vent. Mostly it's just lint. I haven't seen any dead critter
> parts in the vacuum cleaner.
>
> Jill
>

That's good! I don't want any many-legged creatures homesteading in my
house.

[dsi1]

Why they changed it, I can't say - people just liked it better that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TuJKsfpfNI

[Bruce]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 11:44:23 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Leo confused the guy who bought Manhattan with the guy who founded New
York. Don't make fun of him for it, please. It could happen to
anybody.

[Hank Rogers]

Wouldn't critters entering through the dryer vent have to be pretty
small to get past the lint filter in the dryer? Maybe fleas or mites?

[Hank Rogers]

Hahaha. I live in an old cabin in the sticks. The worst is when a
damn cricket takes up residence and decides to serenade me 24/7.

Couple of times I would have used a shotgun if I could figure out
exactly where the bastard was. Worse than blaring Alexander
Shunarrah commercials.

[Bruce]

It means that Americans already had bad taste.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 2:20:38 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Wouldn't critters entering through the dryer vent have to be pretty
> small to get past the lint filter in the dryer? Maybe fleas or mites?
>

I don't give them a chance no matter their size. I'm no expert but I bet
there are small enough spaces even around the lint filter an ant could
bypass.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 2:26:05 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:

>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > I don't want any many-legged creatures homesteading in my
> > house.
> >
>
> Hahaha. I live in an old cabin in the sticks. The worst is when a
> damn cricket takes up residence and decides to serenade me 24/7.
>
> Couple of times I would have used a shotgun if I could figure out
> exactly where the bastard was. Worse than blaring Alexander
> Shunarrah commercials.
>

Just like when there's an annoying little squeak in your car when you drive
it and you can't find out where that noise is coming from.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:03:08 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 5:44:26 AM UTC-10, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2020 1:27 AM, Leo wrote:
>>>> On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote
>>>> (in article<pbtlefl92j0jgs9pr...@4ax.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:38:18 -0700, Leo<leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Sure, but they wouldn’t admit to it in a New York Minuit.

>>>>>
>>>>> I guess they were ashamed of it.
>>>>
>>>> Shame on you! You appear not to know who the Dutch founder of New York was.
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> leo
>>>>
>>>>
>>> LOL NYC was originally called 'New Amsterdam'. Even I know that.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Why they changed it, I can't say - people just liked it better that way.
>
> It means that Americans already had bad taste.
>

Yes just bad people. Americans are no damn good.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 20, , Bruce wrote
(in article<oensefhglqpumfcuu...@4ax.com>):

> Leo confused the guy who bought Manhattan with the guy who founded New
> York. Don't make fun of him for it, please. It could happen to
> anybody.

Says the Dutchman who never heard of Peter Minuit. I’ve told you before,
but you won’t listen. Make your way back to the school that miseducated
you, and demand your money back. Holland should be made to support, in some
way, the least of their citizens.

Uncle leo

[Bruce]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 15:24:28 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I've never heard of Peter Minuit, but I have heard of Peter
Stuyvesant, the founder of New York. His name was mainly kept alive by
the cigarette brand.

My school education was mainly focused on the Netherlands, Indonesia
and Europe, including the Soviet Union. The US, South America and the
rest of Asia not so much.

[dsi1]

The name change happened over 100 years before Americans/America existed. The English took over and named the place properly. Who can blame them? The Netherlands were pretty much washed up by then. Tulips? Painters? Humbug!

[Bruce]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

It's funny to see a humble Hawaiian be protective of American
mainlanders. It's like a tiny dog guarding a huge building :)

[dsi1]

What's not funny is to see some clown make up stuff to fit his idea of how things outta be. I'm not protective of anybody/anything in particular, just the truth.

Yoose gets the last word because I don't have time for your silly mind games. Please use this opportunity to kill more time. Obviously, you can afford to toss it away in a promiscuous manner.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 16:28:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Woof woof! :)

[Ed Pawlowski]

Its not like Spreckelsville

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 9:26:32 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:03:08 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 5:44:26 AM UTC-10, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 6/18/2020 1:27 AM, Leo wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020 Jun 17, , Bruce wrote
>>>>>> (in article<pbtlefl92j0jgs9pr...@4ax.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:38:18 -0700, Leo<leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Sure, but they wouldn’t admit to it in a New York Minuit.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess they were ashamed of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shame on you! You appear not to know who the Dutch founder of New York was.
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> LOL NYC was originally called 'New Amsterdam'. Even I know that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Why they changed it, I can't say - people just liked it better that way.
>>>
>>> It means that Americans already had bad taste.
>>
>> The name change happened over 100 years before Americans/America existed. The English took over and named the place properly. Who can blame them? The Netherlands were pretty much washed up by then. Tulips? Painters? Humbug!
>
> It's funny to see a humble Hawaiian be protective of American
> mainlanders. It's like a tiny dog guarding a huge building :)
>

I's fun to watch an arrogant dutchman sniffing a humble Hawaiian's
rectum, while bitching about USA.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:13:26 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
wrote:

Because I said Americans have bad taste? That was a joke. You wouldn't
see it that way because your feelings are easily hurt, being the big
patriot that you are :)

[Leo]

On 2020 Jun 20, , jmcquown wrote
(in article <dHqHG.33574$AN2....@fx46.iad>):

> Lizards are great for killing bugs but I'd prefer they reside outside.
> Spiders, too. And oh, Palmetto bugs. Disgusting things. Persia used
> to kill them. Buffy pays no attention to them. I spray all around the
> doors to keep the bugs out. I'm a firm believer in pesticides when it
> comes to keeping those damned Palmetto bugs out of my house.

I bought an anole lizard from a traveling carnival passing through my town
in the Fifties. It lived on the curtains and occasionally changed colors.
The liars at the carnival said it was a chameleon. It died during our
winter or, perhaps, starved or died of thirst.
Once, my mother told our cleaning lady that there was a bullsnake loose in
the house that I seem to have lost. She told Mom that she would come back
when we were snake free. I had other “stuff” go loose too, and often.
My parents were ambivalent to my household menagerie, and that was a good
thing for a lonely, only child. Poisonous animals were forbidden, so I had
to learn what I had beforehand.
Nevertheless, I found a girl to marry me, and it’ll be fifty years this
October. Poor thing.

leo

[jmcquown]

On 6/20/2020 10:25 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Jun 20, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article <dHqHG.33574$AN2....@fx46.iad>):
>
>> Lizards are great for killing bugs but I'd prefer they reside outside.
>> Spiders, too. And oh, Palmetto bugs. Disgusting things. Persia used
>> to kill them. Buffy pays no attention to them. I spray all around the
>> doors to keep the bugs out. I'm a firm believer in pesticides when it
>> comes to keeping those damned Palmetto bugs out of my house.
>
> I bought an anole lizard from a traveling carnival passing through my town
> in the Fifties. It lived on the curtains and occasionally changed colors.
> The liars at the carnival said it was a chameleon. It died during our
> winter or, perhaps, starved or died of thirst.

Oh dear. :( Well, anole lizards *do* change colours. If they're against
something brown they turn brown, but they aren't true cameleons. The
males have an amazing red spotted dewlap.

> Once, my mother told our cleaning lady that there was a bullsnake loose in
> the house that I seem to have lost. She told Mom that she would come back
> when we were snake free. I had other “stuff” go loose too, and often.
> My parents were ambivalent to my household menagerie, and that was a good
> thing for a lonely, only child. Poisonous animals were forbidden, so I had
> to learn what I had beforehand.
> Nevertheless, I found a girl to marry me, and it’ll be fifty years this
> October. Poor thing.
>
> leo
>

Congrats on the upcoming anniversary. I guess my mother was lucky my
brothers weren't big into bringing reptiles into the house.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:25:25 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 6/20/2020 10:25 PM, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Jun 20, , jmcquown wrote
>> (in article <dHqHG.33574$AN2....@fx46.iad>):
>>
>>> Lizards are great for killing bugs but I'd prefer they reside outside.
>>> Spiders, too. And oh, Palmetto bugs. Disgusting things. Persia used
>>> to kill them. Buffy pays no attention to them. I spray all around the
>>> doors to keep the bugs out. I'm a firm believer in pesticides when it
>>> comes to keeping those damned Palmetto bugs out of my house.
>>
>> I bought an anole lizard from a traveling carnival passing through my town
>> in the Fifties. It lived on the curtains and occasionally changed colors.
>> The liars at the carnival said it was a chameleon. It died during our
>> winter or, perhaps, starved or died of thirst.
>
>Oh dear. :( Well, anole lizards *do* change colours. If they're against
>something brown they turn brown, but they aren't true cameleons. The
>males have an amazing red spotted dewlap.

I beg your pardon?

[Ophelia]

"Leo" wrote in message
news:0001HW.249EFC8601...@News.Individual.Net...

===

Lucky lady:)) btw when you bought that lizard, did they not tell you how
to feed it??

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> It's funny to see a humble Hawaiian be protective of American
> mainlanders. It's like a tiny dog guarding a huge building :)

A police officer came to my daughters 5th grade class one day
to give a talk. I was there.

He said, "Best alarm system for a house is a barking dog."

[Bruce]

Then the Hawaiians are well protected.

[dsi1]

We used to have anoles running about here 30 or so years ago. I don't see them anymore. We used to call them "chameleons." If they can change colors that's good enough for us. OTOH, we've also had Jackson chameleons. That used to be the craze on this rock. People would catch them and keep them while they withered away and then fall off their branch dead because not many people knew how to take care of them. Maybe the real chameleons are eating all the fake chameleons. That'll show them!

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
>
> We used to have anoles running about here 30 or so years ago. I don't see them anymore. We used to call them "chameleons." If they can change colors that's good enough for us. OTOH, we've also had Jackson chameleons. That used to be the craze on this rock. People would catch them and keep them while they withered away and then fall off their branch dead because not many people knew how to take care of them.

My young daughter raised anoles once in an aquarium with a screen
lid. She fed them
crickets and also had a water bowl. They lived a long time.

Then she caught a praying mantis once outside. It lived for years
on top of
her bedroom curtain. She also fed it crickets. No water...I guess
the
crickets had enough moisture in their bodies.

And no...she didn't go out hunting for crickets. The pet store
sold them
cheap...about 100 small crickets for a dollar.