Has anyone here seen any effects of the virus in US?

[Ophelia]

https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

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[Bruce]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

Are you saying it's a hoax after all?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 3:42:46 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

I haven't seen any effects, but I'm not looking for them. I'm not
hanging around hospitals and other locations where sick people are
likely to be.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...

===

I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who lives
in Germany) sent today.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>
>Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>
>===
>
> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who lives
>in Germany) sent today.

If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...

====

I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !

[Bruce]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:19:33 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>>Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>>
>>===
>>
>> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who
>> lives
>>in Germany) sent today.
>
>If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?
>
>====
>
> I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !

But he changed his tone completely.

[dsi1]

Mostly, people are just staying at home. It's probably a good idea for folks to continue staying at home for the next 4 months or so. What's going to happen is that people will think the coast is clear and prematurely emerge from self-isolation causing a second round of infections. My guess is that things will start to get back to normal in about 6 months. By "normal" I mean we can start to rebuild our economy at that time. My guess is that rfc will completely implode in 30 days. 😉

The good news is that my wife can get some free coffee from Starbucks until the end of May since she's a nurse. She went to a bakery this morning that was closing down because of this shitstorm. They might be able to reopen in a few months. My guess is that a lot of businesses will just decide to never open their doors again. The bakery made one of the darndest things I've ever seen - a cream puff wrapped in puff pastry.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/for8HlrOSfa1Xgv-bm-VVw.Nct3ddQep5sfYIqfihqQZL

[Bruce]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> https://www.avg.com
>

>Mostly, people are just staying at home. It's probably a good idea for folks to continue staying at home for the next 4 months or so. What's going to happen is that people will think the coast is clear and prematurely emerge from self-isolation causing a second round of infections. My guess is that things will start to get back to normal in about 6 months. By "normal" I mean we can start to rebuild our economy at that time. My guess is that rfc will completely implode in 30 days. ?

But what if it's all a hoax? Organised by the Chinese, the Europeans,
and the American Democrats. The only people who don't buy the hoax are
the president of Brazil and the dictator of Belarus. Ophelia's on the
fence.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:8ufk8fdbadtf2cat5...@4ax.com...

===

I know. What did you think about that vid?

[Bruce]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:57:26 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:8ufk8fdbadtf2cat5...@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:19:33 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>>wrote:
>>

>>> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who
>>> lives
>>>in Germany) sent today.
>>
>>If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?
>>
>>====
>>
>> I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !
>
>But he changed his tone completely.
>
>===
>
>I know. What did you think about that vid?

I doubt that it's all a hoax. What would the point be? What common
goal unites all the affected countries, almost the entire world, to
make this up?

[dsi1]

What if I'm there only person here that actually exists? What if you're all a figment of my awesome imagination? Yeah, that would be groovy, man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kAHqIkc0qQ

[dsi1]

My guess is that it ain't no hoax. Don't trust our president, trust your PM.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/05/british-pm-boris-johnson-admitted-to-hospital-for-tests-over-persistent-coronavirus-symptoms.html

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

How about the reported deaths in London? Hoax? Why is the Prime
Minister in hospital? And then there is the fake news from the Queen.

Janet US

[dsi1]

Once again, the Queen calls for strength and resolve in your island nation. It's probably what she does best. Meanwhile, back in the states, the chump wonders if the Queen's television ratings were higher than his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBtqdNsybmo

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 16:40:26 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Mostly, people are just staying at home. It's probably a good idea
>> for folks to continue staying at home for the next 4 months or
>> so. What's going to happen is that people will think the coast is
>> clear and prematurely emerge from self-isolation causing a second
>> round of infections. My guess is that things will start to get
>> back to normal in about 6 months. By "normal" I mean we can start
>> to rebuild our economy at that time. My guess is that rfc will

>> completely implode in 30 days. ??

>>
>> The good news is that my wife can get some free coffee from
>> Starbucks until the end of May since she's a nurse. She went to a
>> bakery this morning that was closing down because of this
>> shitstorm. They might be able to reopen in a few months. My guess
>> is that a lot of businesses will just decide to never open their
>> doors again. The bakery made one of the darndest things I've ever
>> seen - a cream puff wrapped in puff pastry.
>

>New drinking game. Every time David Iawoka says "I guess" or "My
>guess" (or any variant thereof), everybody must drink a "Standard
>United States Drink" - seeing as how everybody not from the U.S
>loves bitching about our President.
>
>And no, not those pussy Australian, New Zealand, or UK equivalent
>"Standard Drinks".
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_drink
>
>Starting now. I just took 3 shots of Stroh 80 rum for 3 "I
>guess..."'s. That's twice as much as is required (Stroh 80%, not 80
>proof)
>
>ObFood: I have 1/8 of a swine on my smoker.
>
>-sw

well are we talking the standard 1.6 oz bar shot or the 3 oz home
shot? are we talking standard mixed drink or perhaps you are talking
about the standard 12 oz can of horse piss?

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____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

[Bruce]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 17:42:46 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

And if she eats more cheeseburgers than him. She doesn't.

[Julie Bove]

"Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
news:heuqlg...@mid.individual.net...
> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

This is why I don't watch the news. I'll admit that I didn't watch the whole
video but... I know if a person is in the hospital, has had a test for the
virus, then dies, the virus is listed as the cause of death when it may or
may not be.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...

It's not a hoax but we are not being told the truth. They want us to live in
fear. We're easier to control that way.

[Bruce]

The opposite happens too, doctors say. Someone dies of corona, without
having been tested. They then don't count as a corona death.

[Julie Bove]

"Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message

news:heusqs...@mid.individual.net...

> "Bruce" wrote in message
> news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>>Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>>
>>===
>>
>> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who
>> lives
>>in Germany) sent today.
>
> If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?
>
> ====
>
> I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !

There is a virus, yes. But it has killed less people than the flu, so far
this year. Do you ever hear reports of flu death? No. H1N1 killed more
people than this. Who knows. I'm not saying it's nothing. I do think they
are making things sound far worse than they are. Meanwhile, people are
starving and have no income.

I have many orders for food that I'm waiting for because these things could
not be found in the stores. Things like olive oil. That was supposed to
arrive on the 6th. Just got word that it would be delayed. My almonds? Could
take weeks to come to me. spend and spend and still no food.

Please note, I am not out of food. I'm not starving. I just want certain
things and can't get them.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message

news:0jgk8flm1kstagcq2...@4ax.com...

One of my friends had it. Was in the hospital for two weeks. Another is
still recovering. Last night, my friend in NY said she, her SO and son all
have it. But her daughter did not have it.

[Bruce]

The Chinese, the Europeans and the American Democrats want to control
us? That's a strange coalition.

By the way, in Australia, France, Germany, Belgium and the
Netherlands, the "curve is flattening". Not that it's over there, but
there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[Janet]

In article <hcuk8f5hg4527naln...@4ax.com>, J...@nospam.com
says...

Ignore it, Janet. The effects and extent of the virus in USA (and
many other countries beyond our own) are covered daily by UK media,
includes live footage and statistics.

Janet UK

[Bruce]

I keep reading that due to mismanagement of the crisis in US, UK and
Sweden, things are going to be bad there.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:e3737c50-dc6f-43db...@googlegroups.com...

===

LOL did you enjoy it?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:0jgk8flm1kstagcq2...@4ax.com...

====

Not really, too many people are dying. As to all the constant news ....

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:15:41 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

I guess it's hard to deny. Northern Italy must be pretty hellish, for
instance.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:b3ik8fh8ehvfm8p8t...@4ax.com...

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:57:26 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
>news:8ufk8fdbadtf2cat5...@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:19:33 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who
>>> lives
>>>in Germany) sent today.
>>
>>If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?
>>
>>====
>>
>> I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !

>ea

>But he changed his tone completely.
>
>===
>
>I know. What did you think about that vid?

goal unites all the affected countries, almost the entire world, to

I doubt that it's all a hoax. What would the point be? What common

make this up?

====

Oh I have no doubts that the virus is real, after seeing that video it
seems to me that people are making it sound much worse than it is .. NOT the
virus but the spread. Why the spread is being 'made up' I don't have a clue!

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:707eedc5-386d-4894...@googlegroups.com...

===

LOL

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:b8eeb029-1ab3-4b94...@googlegroups.com...

====

I guess if Trump gets it, everything will change.

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
news:hcuk8f5hg4527naln...@4ax.com...

===

Whoa!!! I am not saying the virus is fake, I know it is not, I just
wonder why news about the numbers is so different.

My daughter agrees with the video in the place she lives. I just wonder
who is getting what out of it.

[Ophelia]

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:r6eigc$hf4$1...@dont-email.me...

===

Fair point.

[Ophelia]

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:r6eidk$h3v$1...@dont-email.me...

may not .

===

OK I don't know about that

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:20:45 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:b3ik8fh8ehvfm8p8t...@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:57:26 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:8ufk8fdbadtf2cat5...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:19:33 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>>wrote:
>>

>>> I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !
>>ea
>>But he changed his tone completely.
>>
>>===
>>
>>I know. What did you think about that vid?
>goal unites all the affected countries, almost the entire world, to
>
>I doubt that it's all a hoax. What would the point be? What common
>make this up?
>
>====
>
> Oh I have no doubts that the virus is real, after seeing that video it
>seems to me that people are making it sound much worse than it is .. NOT the
>virus but the spread. Why the spread is being 'made up' I don't have a clue!

But when you hear healthcare workers from your own country talk about
numbers of people dying, intensive care being swamped, the prospect of
having to do triage, health workers getting burnout or PTSD etc, don't
you believe them?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:brsl8flr16uhj6ggd...@4ax.com...

===

:((((( Not a place I would like to be. Notice, that vid didn't cover
Italy.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:0gtl8fh1vlfo1ae6d...@4ax.com...

=====

Yes of course I do. I don't disbelieve any of that. Oh, I have
explained myself.

My daughter lives in Germany! She sent me that video and agrees with it
'about HER area'.

I am just wondering who gets what out of it if is isn't true.

Big complaints about the police here, using the virus as a reason for
taking on powers that that they don't have!!

Try reading our papers! Are we going to turn into a police state!!!

[dsi1]

The Queen's speech was a good one. It was short and uplifting. It was one that unified the UK. The chump's specialty is dividing the Republic and playing each side against one other. Americans are stupid enough to allow themselves to be played as suckers by our Russian asset chumpanzee. That's the breaks.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>
> Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>
> ===
>
> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who lives
> in Germany) sent today.

Sharing the video without comment implicitly endorses its content.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

My guess it's Ruskie troll farm social media disinformation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:43:41 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
> >>

> >> --
> >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> >> https://www.avg.com
> >

> >Mostly, people are just staying at home. It's probably a good idea for folks to continue staying at home for the next 4 months or so. What's going to happen is that people will think the coast is clear and prematurely emerge from self-isolation causing a second round of infections. My guess is that things will start to get back to normal in about 6 months. By "normal" I mean we can start to rebuild our economy at that time. My guess is that rfc will completely implode in 30 days. ?
>
> But what if it's all a hoax? Organised by the Chinese, the Europeans,
> and the American Democrats. The only people who don't buy the hoax are
> the president of Brazil and the dictator of Belarus. Ophelia's on the
> fence.

It's a hoax organized by the wealthy. They feel they have too much
money and wanted the stock market to take an enormous shit.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:46:55 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

A couple sitting in their car by the side of the road were fined $2000
here because they couldn't explain why they were out and about. That's
crazy. But so are the idiots who get together on the Australian
beaches or communal barbecues.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:29:48 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:r6eigc$hf4$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
>"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
>news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>> Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>
>It's not a hoax but we are not being told the truth. They want us to live in
>fear. We're easier to control that way.
>
>===
>
> Fair point.

But who wants to control us and to what end?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:27:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news:hcuk8f5hg4527naln...@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>
>How about the reported deaths in London? Hoax? Why is the Prime
>Minister in hospital? And then there is the fake news from the Queen.
>
>Janet US
>
>===
>
> Whoa!!! I am not saying the virus is fake, I know it is not, I just
>wonder why news about the numbers is so different.
>
> My daughter agrees with the video in the place she lives. I just wonder
>who is getting what out of it.

Mouth mask manufacturers.

[Janet]

In article <hf0c4i...@mid.individual.net>, oph...@elsinore.me.uk
says...

>
> I am just wondering who gets what out of it if is isn't true.
>
> Big complaints about the police here, using the virus as a reason for
> taking on powers that that they don't have!!

They DO have those powers; they came into force nationwide on March
26th by Act of Parliament

https://www.sidley.com/en/insights/newsupdates/2020/03/covid-19-control-
measures--uk-police-powers

quote

"On 26 March 2020, these regulations were replaced with the Health
Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 (the
Regulations). The Regulations contain the rules relating to movement
restrictions and business closures announced by the Prime Minister on 23
March 2020. The Regulations allow the police to take action necessary to
enforce the new restrictions.

The restrictions apply during the ?emergency period? which started on 26
March 2020, the date on which the Regulations came into force in
England, Wales and Scotland, and will continue until terminated by a
direction of the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State will review
the need for the restrictions and other requirements imposed by the
Regulations at least once every 21 days, with the first review being
carried out by 16 April 2020."

unquote


The link details police powers.

>
> Try reading our papers! Are we going to turn into a police state!!!

The police additional powers are required because know-nothing
hysterical morons spread lies smears and misinformation which put other
people at risk.

Janet UK

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message

news:201m8fl16157g9n65...@4ax.com...

Some say wealthy bureaucrats.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message

news:j9jl8f97lc1mr4s5u...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:32:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
>>news:heuqlg...@mid.individual.net...
>>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>>This is why I don't watch the news. I'll admit that I didn't watch the
>>whole
>>video but... I know if a person is in the hospital, has had a test for the
>>virus, then dies, the virus is listed as the cause of death when it may or

>>may not be.
>
> The opposite happens too, doctors say. Someone dies of corona, without
> having been tested. They then don't count as a corona death.

Right. And many who have it were nervier tested so not counted. In some
cases, they were not allowed to be tested. In others, they just self
quarantined.

[Bruce]

Who are a lot less wealthy because of this crisis.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 03:51:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"

<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
>news:j9jl8f97lc1mr4s5u...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:32:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:heuqlg...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>>
>>>This is why I don't watch the news. I'll admit that I didn't watch the
>>>whole
>>>video but... I know if a person is in the hospital, has had a test for the
>>>virus, then dies, the virus is listed as the cause of death when it may or
>>>may not be.
>>
>> The opposite happens too, doctors say. Someone dies of corona, without
>> having been tested. They then don't count as a corona death.
>
>Right. And many who have it were nervier tested so not counted. In some
>cases, they were not allowed to be tested. In others, they just self
>quarantined.

Yes. Also, some countries test a lot more than others. And the less
you test, the less you find. India does 102 tests per million people.
UK does 2880. Norway does 20,000.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-04-06 5:59 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
===
>>
>> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who lives
>> in Germany) sent today.
>
> Sharing the video without comment implicitly endorses its content.
>

I have disputed some images posted on FaceBook lately. They will have
an image of someone famous and then a quote about something. The
impression one gets is that the person actually said it. In several
cases I questioned it and could find nothing online to support it.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:46:55 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

it is political misinformation designed to induce just exactly what
you asked. Then a particular far right political view wins. You
believe that the police state is not far away. The police in these
times get whatever power the local authority gives them to keep
everyone in order and safe.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:39:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"

<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message

>news:heusqs...@mid.individual.net...
>> "Bruce" wrote in message
>> news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message

>>>news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>>
>>>Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>>>

>>>===
>>>
>>> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who
>>> lives
>>>in Germany) sent today.
>>

>> If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?
>>
>> ====
>>

>> I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !
>

>There is a virus, yes. But it has killed less people than the flu, so far
>this year. Do you ever hear reports of flu death? No. H1N1 killed more
>people than this. Who knows. I'm not saying it's nothing. I do think they
>are making things sound far worse than they are. Meanwhile, people are
>starving and have no income.
>
>I have many orders for food that I'm waiting for because these things could
>not be found in the stores. Things like olive oil. That was supposed to
>arrive on the 6th. Just got word that it would be delayed. My almonds? Could
>take weeks to come to me. spend and spend and still no food.
>
>Please note, I am not out of food. I'm not starving. I just want certain
>things and can't get them.

you need to update your information. You are using worn out arguments
from a month ago. . . unless your source is Fox

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:33:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message

>news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>> Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>

>It's not a hoax but we are not being told the truth. They want us to live in
>fear. We're easier to control that way.

OMG!

[U.S. Janet B.]

IOn Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:15:41 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:0jgk8flm1kstagcq2...@4ax.com...
>
snip

>
>But what if it's all a hoax? Organised by the Chinese, the Europeans,
>and the American Democrats. The only people who don't buy the hoax are
>the president of Brazil and the dictator of Belarus. Ophelia's on the
>fence.
>

>====
>
>Not really, too many people are dying. As to all the constant news ....
>

If it makes you more comfortable not to hear what is going on then
dispose of the papers, TV and radio

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:32:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message

>news:heuqlg...@mid.individual.net...
>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>
>This is why I don't watch the news. I'll admit that I didn't watch the whole
>video but... I know if a person is in the hospital, has had a test for the
>virus, then dies, the virus is listed as the cause of death when it may or
>may not be.

right. You do know the requirements for getting the test, don't you?
And, of course, the doctors don't know what the hell they are doing
and pay no attention to underlying causes and never list them. You
need to get clued up or shut up

[graham]

On 2020-04-06 12:33 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
> news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>
>> Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
>
> It's not a hoax but we are not being told the truth. They want us to
> live in fear. We're easier to control that way.

Not if you wear a tinfoil hat!

[graham]

Preferably the latter!!!!!!!!!

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:a1a03b0b-a9c0-4e51...@googlegroups.com...

===
Oh dear:(

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

news:tkhm8fhk9c8a2hkam...@4ax.com...

====

That's a bit harsh. Is she not allowed an opinion???

[Cindy Hamilton]

Julie's allowed an opinion (it would be nice if it were an informed
opinion), and Janet's allowed to be mean in return.

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

Do we still have to answer a question on the RFC web site to get a tin
foil hat?

[John Kuthe]

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 3:30:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:19:33 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >"Bruce" wrote in message news:ltek8fpge667oqcqh...@4ax.com...
> >
> >On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:01:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
> >wrote:
> >

> >>"Bruce" wrote in message

> >>news:pndk8f9qrb201jgfj...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:42:34 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
> >>
> >>Are you saying it's a hoax after all?
> >>

> >>===
> >>
> >> I am not saying anything. I am just sharing a vid my daughter (who
> >> lives
> >>in Germany) sent today.
> >
> >If it's a hoax, even Trump bought it! Or is he behind it?
> >
> >====
> >
> > I don't know. From the beginning he said it was 'Fake News' !
>
> But he changed his tone completely.

"Trump" or more correctly DRUMPF changes its mind to satisfy whatever audience its playing to! As Donald J. Trump is Malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[U.S. Janet B.]

no, we have a quorum present

[Sheldon]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:42:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"

<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message

>news:0jgk8flm1kstagcq2...@4ax.com...

>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>>>>

>>>> --
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>> https://www.avg.com
>>>

>>>Mostly, people are just staying at home. It's probably a good idea for

>>>folks to continue staying at home for the next 4 months or so.

Makes no difference to me, I always stay at home... I suppose it
matters how one defines staying at home... I very rarely leave this
property and when I do it's only five miles into town on a two lane
road mostly through the woods, hay fields, and cattle pasture... once
a week I check my PO Box. On the same trip if need be Walgreens has a
drive thru. For my usual one or two bags of groceries if I phone Tops
ahead they will deliver it directly to my car while I'm parked just
outside their front door, same with my case of Crystal Palace. But I
prefer to enter the stores, it's rare there's more than 2-3 shoppers
at Tops and mostly I'm the only one at the liquer store. If need be
my doctor and dentist are on my way into town... I have an appt for a
cleaning this week but I doubt they are doing that, I'll phone to find
out. Still, Dee the hygienist is always gowned, gloved, and masked
anyway, and a cleaning is no emergency, I get two a year but I own a
toothbrush, toothpaste, and floss.

Staying at home is very easy for me, since I moved here I haven't been
more than 30 miles from my front door and that's rare, once a year
when I visit my Urologist so Linda can check my prostate. And I
already found out that my cataract surgery is on hold. Otherwise the
only traveling I'll be doing is by tractor while mowing, and I'll be
in an air conditioned cab and wearing a mask... a few years ago I
bought a slew of those N95 respirator masks from Amazon... weren't
deemed important then and were cheap. I keep some in the tractor and
always have some in my car for when farmers are spreading chemferts,
insecticides, and the pollen count is high... besides mowing is always
dusty so anyone mowing needs to be masked. However those disposable
paper masks are not even close to being real repirators, at best they
filter larger particulates/dust and will not protect from viruses or
any germs/fumes... a real respirator is much different, covers full
face; mouth, nose, eyes, and allows no outside air in without it being
filtered by special cannisters, actually a gas mask... I often wore
one where I worked at bnl.gov. Telling people to use a scarf is
insane. Those paper throw away masks are tantmonut to using a section
of panty hose as a condom. Were I buying a respirator for viruses it
would be this:
https://www.amazon.com/DISKIN-Full-Face-Respirator-Military/dp/B0868WMP65/ref=sr_1_4?crid=26XD5IYLG3RXI&dchild=1&keywords=respirator+mask&qid=1586190980&sprefix=res%2Cspecialty-aps-sns%2C182&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.com/Israeli-Mask-Filter-Specifications-Masks/dp/B086SH94N2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=40mm+gas+mask+filter&qid=1586192652&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQ1lYNFJYWTJXRjhQJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjg3NjA1MlA2VTVWRUlDS1lSNSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDAwODcyMlVXUTZXS0wxMEUxTSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

The main thing that annoys my wife about the virus is that she can't
play 18 holes of golf, so she and her girlfriend play 9, that's
because all the bathrooms along the course are now locked and they
can't last more than 9 holes... and ladies don't like to squat behind
a bush, especially this time of year as there are no leaves yet. They
will meet at the course today at noon, there's practically no one
there because only walkers are permitted now, carts are all locked up
now or they'd need to be constantly sterilized, plus the ground is
still too wet for carts anyway. The two of them don't get closer to
each other than 50+ feet, golf courses are huge acreage... playing 9
holes means they'll be walking more than 6-7 very hilly miles. My
wife has several friends here named Barbara, this is Pink Toilet
Barbara, her bathroom has all pink fixtures... I need to differenciate
all her Barbaras somehow. I ain't saying the nicks I have for the
others, use your imagination. She even has a friend who's our
insurance agent (cars & house) who nick named herself Betty Boop, has
a picture of Betty Boop on her business cards... of course I refer to
her as Betty Boobs, but yoose knew that. LOL
Thunderheart is one of the most scenic and challenging golf courses in
the northeast, was accquired a couple of years ago by Sunnyhill from
the fellow who built it as he retired... Sunnyhill is more a resort
than a golf course but the real estate abuts:
https://www.thunderhartgolf.com/
https://www.sunnyhill.com/

[U.S. Janet B.]

It burns me up that there are all these professionals and volunteers
around the world who are risking their lives and health, overworking
in overtaxed conditions, and they get accused of carelessness,
malpractice and misrepresentation.
Janet US

[graham]

and you have a halfwit POTUS who spreads false info on an unproven drug
and shuts up the knowledgeable scientist next to him.

[U.S. Janet B.]

He fancies himself a great scientific and medical brain. I know this
because he has immodestly said so.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 12:03:53 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

When you're a stable genius, it's really easy to pick up new
knowledge.

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:3fcb16d1-6339-4538...@googlegroups.com...

====

Thank you. I will keep that in mind!!!

It is a bit hard to remember all the perfect people here, but I will do
my very best ... I will also keep in mind that kindness is no longer
acceptable!

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:3fcb16d1-6339-4538...@googlegroups.com...

====

Thank you. I will keep that in mind!!!

It is a bit hard to remember all the perfect people here, but I will do
my very best ... I will also keep in mind that kindness is no longer
acceptable!

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:03:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

I'm going to be mean from now on. Cindy says it's ok. Yoohoo!

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:5cvm8fpmal0lbmkfh...@4ax.com...

====

I shall watch ...:)

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:5cvm8fpmal0lbmkfh...@4ax.com...

====

I shall watch ...:) Who knows, perhaps I will learn to be unkind too!

Who knows!

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:13:08 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:5cvm8fpmal0lbmkfh...@4ax.com...
>
>On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:03:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
>>news:3fcb16d1-6339-4538...@googlegroups.com...
>>

>>Julie's allowed an opinion (it would be nice if it were an informed
>>opinion), and Janet's allowed to be mean in return.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>====
>>
>> Thank you. I will keep that in mind!!!
>>
>> It is a bit hard to remember all the perfect people here, but I will do
>>my very best ... I will also keep in mind that kindness is no longer
>>acceptable!
>
>I'm going to be mean from now on. Cindy says it's ok. Yoohoo!
>
>====
>
> I shall watch ...:)

lol

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:15:32 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Just know that you have permission!

[Omni Vore]

On 4/5/2020 12:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

This is irresponsibly stupid garbage. A YouTube video is only
proof that some idiot knows how to make an upload a video.

You should be ashamed of posting this.

[graham]

Two men in a bar:
First Man: I'm investigating a huge conspiracy!
Second Man: Really, what have you found out?
First Man: Nothing at all.
Second Man: My god, they're cunning devils!

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:e60n8fphsv8d0hbvn...@4ax.com...

===

So it seems:))

[Ophelia]

"Omni Vore" wrote in message news:r6g06a$121o$2...@gioia.aioe.org...

===

Piss off!

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 12:33:31 -0700, Omni Vore <eats...@good.things>
wrote:

That's rather rich, coming from the person who posted the following in
RFC in the month of April:

>you need to be embedded in concrete, yes.
>
>Fuck off, forger.
>
>-------
>
>I'm writing that you need to be exterminated, forger. Fuck off.
>
>
>-------
>
>You seem to be exterminable vermin, forger.
>
>-------
>
>A crowbar upside you head would sort you out real quick,
>you forging shitstain.
>
>-------
>
>Inslee has been one of the best at handling this, you brain-dead
>idiot. The only embarrassment is having an idiot like you as a
>citizen of Washington state. Fuck off and leave NOW!

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:03:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Oh, put a shoe in it Ophelia. There are plenty of times that you
express yourself here in a forceful and frank manner that has nothing
to do with kindness. You're no more perfect than anyone else and the
lady of the manner airs stink.
Janet US

[Omni Vore]

On 4/6/2020 12:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> "Omni Vore"  wrote in message news:r6g06a$121o$2...@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 4/5/2020 12:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74
>
> This is irresponsibly stupid garbage. A YouTube video is only
> proof that some idiot knows how to make an upload a video.
>
> You should be ashamed of posting this.
>
> ===
>  Piss off!

Drop dead.

*plonk*

[Omni Vore]

On 4/6/2020 12:51 PM, Bruce wrote:

> That's

Je doet er niet toe.

*plonk*

[Bruce]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 15:18:14 -0700, Omni Vore <eats...@good.things>
wrote:

OMG, Omni Vore isn't going to read what I write anymore. First the
corona crisis and now this!

[Hank Rogers]

You better watch him like a hawk Fruce. He might bitch about you,
now that you're filtered. You might even have to switch your name.

[cshenk]

Ophelia wrote:

> https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74

There is a young man in the hospital. He owns a great dane. I've been
watching the dog 2-3 times a week when he's at work same times as his
brother. Now he's with me for an unknown timeframe. Just got 100lbs
dog food for him.

Great Dane's name is Prince (common name for them).

It's no hoax. I know a lot of very sick people.

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 6, , graham wrote
(in article <r6g12c$ucc$1...@dont-email.me>):

> Two men in a bar:
> First Man: I'm investigating a huge conspiracy!
> Second Man: Really, what have you found out?
> First Man: Nothing at all.
> Second Man: My god, they're cunning devils!

Two Democrats at a many-sexed cocaine fest in DC:
Pelosi: I'm investigating a huge conspiracy!
Schumer: Really, what have you found out?
Pelosi: Nothing at all.
Schumer: My god, they're cunning devils!

leo

[Bruce]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:06:45 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

Two Republicans in a church:
First Republican: I'm investigating Donald Trump!
Second Republican: Really, what have you found out?
First Republican: He's a con man.
Second Republican: Of course, but don't tell anybody!

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 5, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<46c8ff2b-530b-4b12...@googlegroups.com>):

> What if I'm there only person here that actually exists? What if you're all a
> figment of my awesome imagination? Yeah, that would be groovy, man.

As you know, that’s true. When I go, you all go. Everything goes. Were
you ever?

leo

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 6, , Bruce wrote
(in article<d73m8fpmqk1tbcmvf...@4ax.com>):

> Yes. Also, some countries test a lot more than others. And the less
> you test, the less you find. India does 102 tests per million people.
> UK does 2880. Norway does 20,000.

You don’t suppose that population has anything to do with that, do you?
Again, nobody knows sh*t, but the best are working on it, and more is
learned every day.
Maybe this nut-job is right.

<https://www.foxnews.com/us/lori-vallow-mom-of-missing-idaho-kids-
reportedly-declared-herself-a-god-sent-to-prepare-world-for-apocalypse>

If you can’t bear Fox News, google "lori vallow”. She saw it coming.

leo

[Bruce]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:37:57 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On 2020 Apr 6, , Bruce wrote
>(in article<d73m8fpmqk1tbcmvf...@4ax.com>):
>
>> Yes. Also, some countries test a lot more than others. And the less
>> you test, the less you find. India does 102 tests per million people.
>> UK does 2880. Norway does 20,000.
>
>You don’t suppose that population has anything to do with that, do you?

Per million people, Leo.

[dsi1]

It's amazing how it all works, ain't it?

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 6, , U.S. Janet B. wrote
(in article<5mom8fhosndo6i84c...@4ax.com>):

> It burns me up that there are all these professionals and volunteers
> around the world who are risking their lives and health, overworking
> in overtaxed conditions, and they get accused of carelessness,
> malpractice and misrepresentation.

Don’t forget the grocery stores. They’re the front line for me. So far.

leo

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 6, , Bruce wrote

(in article<c11o8fpv05ei98k71...@4ax.com>):

> > You don’t suppose that population has anything to do with that, do you?
>
> Per million people, Leo.

So you fail to see the logistical problem between 1.4 billion people
(India) and say 5.5 million people (Norway). One billion is one thousand
million.
If I were you, I’d take a ship back to The Netherlands, take a taxi to
the old school and demand my parent's money back. The school did you no
favors.
When did they stop teaching geography in school? One can google population
in a few seconds. It is very meaningful right now.
Believe in China, Iran and N. Korea. Everything is under control. This is
just a dream.

leo

[Bruce]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 22:27:36 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>So you fail to see the logistical problem between 1.4 billion people
>(India) and say 5.5 million people (Norway). One billion is one thousand
>million.

It's better to compare the US (328 million) and Norway (5.5 million),
because they have a similar degree of development. Testing one million
Americans isn't harder than testing one million Norwegians just
because the US has a much larger population.

>If I were you, I’d take a ship back to The Netherlands, take a taxi to
>the old school and demand my parent's money back. The school did you no
>favors.
>When did they stop teaching geography in school? One can google population
>in a few seconds. It is very meaningful right now.

Your attempt to make me look stupid is backfiring.

>Believe in China, Iran and N. Korea. Everything is under control. This is
>just a dream.

Who on earth believes Iran and North Korea have everything under
control? Even Kim Jong-un says North Korea has a big problem.

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 6, , Bruce wrote
(in article<95vn8f9g4pajbq9qj...@4ax.com>):

> Two Republicans in a church:
> First Republican: I'm investigating Donald Trump!
> Second Republican: Really, what have you found out?
> First Republican: He's a con man.
> Second Republican: Of course, but don't tell anybody!

To quote our President, “Lame.”

leo

[Bruce]

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 23:17:53 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

No more than your version :)

[Leo]

On 2020 Apr 6, , Bruce wrote

(in article<b46o8fhtqs9b475k6...@4ax.com>):

> It's better to compare the US (328 million) and Norway (5.5 million),
> because they have a similar degree of development. Testing one million
> Americans isn't harder than testing one million Norwegians just
> because the US has a much larger population.

Now, I’m thinking you should firebomb that school. Let’s compare square
miles and resources. Population centers should be compared. Again, I refer
you to geography. A big number for Norway is a tiny number for us and a
miniscule number for India. Why did you drag India into this. It made you
look silly.

> Your attempt to make me look stupid is backfiring.

Is it?

> Even Kim Jong-un says North Korea has a big problem.

I must not be keeping up. I would appreciate a credible citation. Last I
heard, the KJU regime proclaimed that they had zero covid cases.

leo

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

news:823n8f1l9d03g9bcm...@4ax.com...

======

Why thank you Miss Perfect. I am following all your rules and will learn
given your perfections!

Thank you for your time and I look forward to more of your teaching.

'What a bitch!' How did I do??

[Ophelia]

"Omni Vore" wrote in message news:r6g6f2$1qh9$2...@gioia.aioe.org...

==

LOL success:))