Sunday Supper? 1/23/2022

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

What will be gracing your table this evening??

I finally got around to making that "Mississippi Pot Roast" that was posted
here about two weeks ago. The instructions said to slow cook for 8 hours
but when I checked my extra lean chuck it wasn't as tender as I had hoped
for. I let it go for another 2 hours on low and this time it was truly falling
apart tender and the house smells really good, too. A quick sampling of
the meat and it is delicious and not salty as had been feared in the original
post. I could even smell those peppers in the pot and it will probably be
some mashed potatoes accompanying this dish.

[GM]

Ah, nice winter Sunday supper...!!!

We got a few inches snow last night, more I guess tonight...

For me a strip steak, crinkle fries, asparagus with lemon and butter, and a small tossed salad...

A yogurt for dessert if needed...

I've also got some scalloped taters w/ham cooking away, for this week's use...

And enough Chinese take - out still stocked for four meals at least...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

My wife is cooking supper tonight. Apparently it is going to be grilled
lamb chops, steamed green beans, some little potatoes and carrots to be
roasted in the air fryer and a salad with blue cheese dressing. There is
apple crisp for dessert.

[Bruce 3]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:18:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>
>What will be gracing your table this evening??

A new batch of tempeh has been in the making, so...

[Bruce 3]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Bruce 3]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:56:47 +1100, Bruce 3 <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

We Dutch have a saying about forgers like yous, which is KILL YOURSELF
you frogging loser Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Bruce 3]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:18:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Bruce 3]

[Ed Pawlowski]

Sounds good. Remember last week I posted about the steak my
granddaughter gave me? She had visited a nice butcher shop. She also
gave me a nice veal cutlet. She actually supplied me with much of
tonight's meal. About a year ago she gave me 3 bottles of Lambrusco and
I still had one. For Christmas she gave me a basket of Italian
specialties including a few kilo of 5 year Parma cheese. It was shipped
from here
https://www.parmashop.com/english

Tonight I breaded and fried the veal, made fettuccine Alfredo and a
salad and the Lambrusco. It was a great meal.

[dsi1]

My brother is in town and it's his birthday so we're eating at this joint. My daughter's ex used to manage the place and he'd give our party a 50% discount. Boy I really liked when that happened!

https://www.haleiwajoes.com/kaneohe-menu

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-23 10:14 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
>
> My brother is in town and it's his birthday so we're eating at this joint. My daughter's ex used to manage the place and he'd give our party a 50% discount. Boy I really liked when that happened!
>
> https://www.haleiwajoes.com/kaneohe-menu

Looks like a nice place. Lots of nice looking dishes.

[Bruce 4]

[Bruce 7]

[Cindy Hamilton]

Salad dressed with apple-cider-vinegar vinaigrette. Ham sandwich.

In the late morning, I made a batch of red lentil and bulgur soup. That,
with a little cheese, was lunch.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

So many interesting choices. What did you end up ordering?

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

Lovely:)) Enjoy:))))

[Gary]

GM wrote:
> A yogurt for dessert if needed...

I like yogurt but I like to stir in something crunchy with it. Like
Honey Nuts and Oats cereal. That name is probable not quite correct.

Anyway, I never have dessert as the last course of a meal. I'll wait
hours later and have it for snack.

A Big Mac is also a very good late night snack. lol

[Gary]

I'll have to try that someday. It sounds interesting. I wonder if anyone
sells it commercially just to get an idea of the taste before making it
yourself?

Same here with kimchee. I'll have to try some first before I ferment
food to eat.

[dsi1]

I had the steamed mahimahi. The Paradise Pie was funny.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8MC4Rc4HYTfcwqWQ8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/t6aaBe5aNNndJBWj8

[Bruce 5]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 07:35:03 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/23/2022 5:56 PM, Bruce 3 wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:18:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>>
>> A new batch of tempeh has been in the making, so...
>
>I'll have to try that someday. It sounds interesting. I wonder if anyone
>sells it commercially just to get an idea of the taste before making it
>yourself?

Supermarkets here sell it, generally soy bean based. It gives you an
idea, but home made's better of course. We make it based on chickpea,
black beans and/or kidney beans.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 7:34:23 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

> > > My brother is in town and it's his birthday so we're eating at this joint. My daughter's ex used to manage the place and he'd give our party a 50% discount. Boy I really liked when that happened!
> > >
> > > https://www.haleiwajoes.com/kaneohe-menu
> > So many interesting choices. What did you end up ordering?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> I had the steamed mahimahi. The Paradise Pie was funny.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/8MC4Rc4HYTfcwqWQ8

That looks delicious.

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/t6aaBe5aNNndJBWj8

You're not wrong. It reminds me of mile-high pies in classic diners.

The menu didn't show desserts. What was the pie made of?

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

I recommend the full Korean meal experience rather than just
kimchee, which by itself is just sour, spicy-hot, and a little funky.

After all, you probably wouldn't eat sauerkraut by itself. (Unless
you're Sheldon.)

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce 5]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:43:36 +1100, Bruce 5 <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

[Bruce 5]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:30:45 +0000, Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

[Sheldon Martin]

I can't be the only one who enjoys plain sauerkraut... I could still
open a large can of Silver Floss and finish it all. I know my father
loved it, he loved any cabbage concoction. His favorite was cabbage
soup made with stuffed cabbage, and well seasoned with kraut juice. If
you bought a hotdog at the Red Apple Rest on Rte 17 in NY you could
help yourself to all the sauerkrout you could eat, my father could
load up the same frank 7-8 times. He said I made the best cole slaw,
I'd have to fill an 8 quart pot just for him. The Red Apple Rest is
now gone, only fond memories of what were The Catskills/Borsht Belt
remain.
https://www.tuckabold.com/landmarks-revisited/red-apple-rest-2/

[Sheldon Martin]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 04:46:49 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I dispise Kimchee, everyone makes a very different version, it has no
soul. Kimchee is a dumpster divers dish... all Korean food schtinks
like a dumpster left too long in the sun.

[Sheldon Martin]

For those who sleep alone.

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-24 9:35 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 04:46:49 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

s just sour, spicy-hot, and a little funky.
>>
>> After all, you probably wouldn't eat sauerkraut by itself. (Unless
>> you're Sheldon.)
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I can't be the only one who enjoys plain sauerkraut..

You probably aren't. I am on the other side of the fence. It is pretty
close to the top of the list of things I would never eat on its own. It
has never been served in my house. I will eat it if it is served to me,
but I am not going out of my way for it.

[Gary]

Exactly Sheldon (and Bryan).
I can do what I want and anytime I want.

I can watch tv all night long in bed (and I do) plus during a commercial
break, I can heat up a refrigerated Big Mac in the microwave, and be
back in bed with a good hot snack before the program resumes.
Other precooked snacks also apply.

Don't forget my bedroom light is also on all night long so I can read.
And my little fan too for "white noise."

No sane woman would want to share a bed with me. A ferret sharing a bed
with me, well...they don't care what I do. Plus they won't talk your ear
off...ever. Cats are the same.

I've had several old customers that had separate bedrooms.

It's pretty much a win-win situation here. LOL

[Gary]

Once, I worked for an older couple (about my age) and the woman had
almost the exact night time habits as me. Her husband usually slept
downstairs in the guest bedroom. LOL

They liked/loved each other fine. They just couldn't sleep together.

[dsi1]

That pie was filled with coffee ice cream. I'm surprised that the kids ate it up.

[Michael Trew]

On 1/23/2022 17:24, GM wrote:
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>>

>> I finally got around to making that "Mississippi Pot Roast" that was posted
>> here about two weeks ago. The instructions said to slow cook for 8 hours
>> but when I checked my extra lean chuck it wasn't as tender as I had hoped
>> for. I let it go for another 2 hours on low and this time it was truly falling
>> apart tender and the house smells really good, too. A quick sampling of
>> the meat and it is delicious and not salty as had been feared in the original
>> post. I could even smell those peppers in the pot and it will probably be
>> some mashed potatoes accompanying this dish.

Nothing exciting here. Leftovers, and otherwise, I made a "cheaters"
box of frozen pirogi up for my daughter and I earlier in the day.

> Ah, nice winter Sunday supper...!!!
>
> We got a few inches snow last night, more I guess tonight...
>
> For me a strip steak, crinkle fries, asparagus with lemon and butter, and a small tossed salad...
>

> A yogurt for dessert if needed...
>

> I've also got some scalloped taters w/ham cooking away, for this week's use...

Sounds great!

[Michael Trew]

I'd rather sleep next to a warm body, and have someone to talk to.

> Once, I worked for an older couple (about my age) and the woman had
> almost the exact night time habits as me. Her husband usually slept
> downstairs in the guest bedroom. LOL
>
> They liked/loved each other fine. They just couldn't sleep together.

My grandparents slept in separate beds for years also. I don't get it,
that sounds miserable. If someone isn't even compatible enough with you
to sleep in the same room, what's the point? Might as well just be
roommates.

[Michael Trew]

On 1/24/2022 9:35, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 04:46:49 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 7:34:18 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2022 5:56 PM, Bruce 3 wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:18:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>>>>
>>>> A new batch of tempeh has been in the making, so...
>>> I'll have to try that someday. It sounds interesting. I wonder if anyone
>>> sells it commercially just to get an idea of the taste before making it
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>> Same here with kimchee. I'll have to try some first before I ferment
>>> food to eat.
>>
>> I recommend the full Korean meal experience rather than just
>> kimchee, which by itself is just sour, spicy-hot, and a little funky.
>>
>> After all, you probably wouldn't eat sauerkraut by itself. (Unless
>> you're Sheldon.)
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I can't be the only one who enjoys plain sauerkraut... I could still
> open a large can of Silver Floss and finish it all.

I think I'd tire of it before I finished a jar, but I love a good dollop
of sauerkraut on the plate with supper. Doesn't even need anything to
go with it, it's delicious on it's own.

[Michael Trew]

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/t6aaBe5aNNndJBWj8

How is that poor kind going to eat with that thing on her face?

[Cindy Hamilton]

I assume your question was facetious?

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

What happens if your spouse suddenly starts snoring so loudly
that you cannot get any sleep, or if you develop some medical
condition like restless leg that makes you a poor bedmate?

Divorce?

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

That's common. Many couples can't sleep well together, especially as
they get older, and/or have health issues. When my wife got her both
knees replaced she didn't sleep well and also kept me awake. And I
have respiratory issues and don't sleep well and don't want to keep my
wife awake for hours. So most nights we start off sleeping together
but eventually one of us sleeps in a different room. In the middle of
the night my wife develops horrific pain in her knees and she has to
do certain exercises to relieve the pain and can take hours. Most
nights my breathing is fine but sometimes I have problems with
congestion and need to use my nebulizer, and there's no telling how
long I'm going to be on that machine so it's better I move into a
different room where I can sit in a comfortable chair, switch on my
nebulizer and watch TV. We're fortunate that we have four bedrooms,
and each have a seperate bedroom set up for our comfort and don't
disturb each other. My wife has the fourth bedroom set up for her
hobbies, with a TV, a hot plate for tea, and all her knitting
parafenalia.
We don't fully close the doors as the cats need to move about.
We're also very fortunate that we don't have children living here...
our children are married with their own children who also have
children. We're lucky not having to rely on our children or
grandchildren. Sometimes we need help with chores and we have very
good neighbors.

[Bruce]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[dsi1]

No ice cream for her!

[Dave Smith]

I have to admit that I sleep better alone. Most mornings I wake up and
the sheets are a mess and it is a big job to make the bed. If my wife is
away and I sleep alone I wake up, get out of bed and just pull the
bedding over and the bed is made

[Michael Trew]

Haha, I see what you did there..

My initial point was to point out the fact that a mask at a table while
eating is kind of pointless. I laugh and/or roll my eyes when I hear
people suggest to raise/lower mask to insert bites of food.

[GM]

The whole mask thing is so ridiculous, a cheap cloth mask is useless against viruses...

--
GM

[Michael Trew]

On 1/24/2022 11:20, Gary wrote:
>>

>> A ferret sharing a
>> bed with me, well...they don't care what I do. Plus they won't talk
>> your ear off...ever. Cats are the same.

I thought you might appreciate this. I found this cleaning up digital
photos. My sisters two cats, taken this past autumn. I briefly
introduced her ferret to them. Nothing explosive happened within the
next 30 seconds, so I ended interaction as soon as I snapped the photo.

Unfortunately, the black cat has since passed away (cancer), and sister
gave the ferret away to a more attentive home, because, as you know I'm
sure, ferrets don't do very well without a partner (it's partner passed
from old age, but this ferret was/is rather young).

https://postimg.cc/KRYwQrwP

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 8:35:30 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I can't be the only one who enjoys plain sauerkraut... I could still
> open a large can of Silver Floss and finish it all.
>

I like it and always take a few bites out of the bag I buy at the meat
counter. But I don't think I could consume a whole bag just as is.
It's very, very good cooked with a pork roast and caraway seed and
a bit of apple juice. Cooked with good quality hot dogs and served
with mashed potatoes is another great meal option.

[GM]

Nice kitties...

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 12:41:49 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> My grandparents slept in separate beds for years also. I don't get it,
> that sounds miserable. If someone isn't even compatible enough with you
> to sleep in the same room, what's the point? Might as well just be
> roommates.
>

Some people are incessant tossers and turners while others just flail
about all night long. Then you have those that have the restless leg
syndrome and are kickers. Let's not forget those that snore like a
freight train and rattle the windows. Lots of reasons married couples
don't sleep together but it doesn't mean they don't love each other.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 2:20:50 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
>
> The whole mask thing is so ridiculous, a cheap cloth mask is useless against viruses...
>
> --
> GM
>

https://i.postimg.cc/SRgvf9Xg/Effectiveness-of-Masks.jpg

[jmcquown]

On 1/23/2022 10:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 1/23/2022 5:18 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>>
>> I finally got around to making that "Mississippi Pot Roast" that was
>> posted
>> here about two weeks ago.  The instructions said to slow cook for 8 hours
>> but when I checked my extra lean chuck it wasn't as tender as I had hoped
>> for.  I let it go for another 2 hours on low and this time it was
>> truly falling
>> apart tender and the house smells really good, too.  A quick sampling of
>> the meat and it is delicious and not salty as had been feared in the
>> original
>> post.  I could even smell those peppers in the pot and it will
>> probably be
>> some mashed potatoes accompanying this dish.
>

> Sounds good.  Remember last week I posted about the steak my
> granddaughter gave me? She had visited a nice butcher shop.   She also
> gave me a nice veal cutlet.  She actually supplied me with much of
> tonight's meal.  About a year ago she gave me 3 bottles of Lambrusco and
> I still had one.  For Christmas she gave me a basket of Italian
> specialties including a few kilo of 5 year Parma cheese.  It was shipped
> from here
> https://www.parmashop.com/english
>
> Tonight I breaded and fried the veal, made fettuccine Alfredo and a
> salad and the Lambrusco.  It was a great meal.


That sounds good, Ed! (Nice foodie gifts, too!) I have some two
scallopini in the freezer which might work as well as cutlets for
breading and frying. I can't say I've tasted Lambrusco in at least 40
years.

Jill

[Bruce]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-23, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>
> I finally got around to making that "Mississippi Pot Roast" that was posted
> here about two weeks ago. The instructions said to slow cook for 8 hours
> but when I checked my extra lean chuck it wasn't as tender as I had hoped
> for. I let it go for another 2 hours on low and this time it was truly falling
> apart tender and the house smells really good, too. A quick sampling of
> the meat and it is delicious and not salty as had been feared in the original
> post. I could even smell those peppers in the pot and it will probably be
> some mashed potatoes accompanying this dish.

Of course, I'm a day late and a dollar short. We had a good old timey
meal of meatloaf in honor of Meat Loaf.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-24, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> My grandparents slept in separate beds for years also. I don't get it,
> that sounds miserable. If someone isn't even compatible enough with you
> to sleep in the same room, what's the point? Might as well just be
> roommates.

When we were young, we thought like you. After over fifty years of
marriage, we think differently. All the love, and none of the hassle.
I can watch TV all night! She can take up the whole bed! So can I! I can
eat crackers in bed, anytime!
Lust may wane, but love endures. That's the key to our happiness, just
like your grandparents.

[BRUCE]

On 25 Jan 2022 05:12:42 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Well spoken.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-24, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> On 1/23/2022 5:56 PM, Bruce 3 wrote:

>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:18:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>>

>> A new batch of tempeh has been in the making, so...
>
> I'll have to try that someday. It sounds interesting. I wonder if anyone
> sells it commercially just to get an idea of the taste before making it
> yourself?
>
> Same here with kimchee. I'll have to try some first before I ferment
> food to eat.

About a year ago, and because of posts here, I thought I'd buy some
kimchee. I found it in the refrigerated section and brought a jar home.
My wife and SIL put the groceries away.
A week or two later, I found the kimchee in the pantry. I threw it away.
I still haven't tasted kimchee.

[BRUCE]

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:18:04 +1100, BRUCE <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[BRUCE]

On 25 Jan 2022 04:45:54 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

[BRUCE]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 17:48:42 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-24, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com> wrote:

> I can't be the only one who enjoys plain sauerkraut... I could still

> open a large can of Silver Floss and finish it all. I know my father
> loved it, he loved any cabbage concoction. His favorite was cabbage
> soup made with stuffed cabbage, and well seasoned with kraut juice. If
> you bought a hotdog at the Red Apple Rest on Rte 17 in NY you could
> help yourself to all the sauerkrout you could eat, my father could
> load up the same frank 7-8 times. He said I made the best cole slaw,
> I'd have to fill an 8 quart pot just for him. The Red Apple Rest is
> now gone, only fond memories of what were The Catskills/Borsht Belt
> remain.
> https://www.tuckabold.com/landmarks-revisited/red-apple-rest-2/


The Red Apple Rest was a going concern at one time. Highway 50 runs
through the center of Nevada. Back in the day, crossing Central Nevada
was a scary adventure. "Stations" sprung up on desolate stretches of the
road. They consisted of a gas station, a bar, a restaurant and maybe
lodging.
When I80 cut through the state above it, Hwy 50 traffic pretty much died
along with all the stations. Goodbye Frenchman's, Westgate, Eastgate and
Carroll Station. And that was just to get from Fallon to Austin. I think
that Cold Springs Station still exists on a bit of rerouted Hwy 50.
Maybe those old layovers will spring up again as charging stations to
support the new paradigm.
Highway 50 is named "The Loneliest Road in America" for a reason. It
goes from Sacramento, CA to Ocean City, MD, but Nevada is surely its
loneliest stretch.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-24, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> I like it and always take a few bites out of the bag I buy at the meat
> counter. But I don't think I could consume a whole bag just as is.
> It's very, very good cooked with a pork roast and caraway seed and
> a bit of apple juice. Cooked with good quality hot dogs and served
> with mashed potatoes is another great meal option.

Peeled, cored and chunked apples, cooked with it, don't hurt either. I
learned that here.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-24, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> That sounds good, Ed! (Nice foodie gifts, too!) I have some two
> scallopini in the freezer which might work as well as cutlets for
> breading and frying. I can't say I've tasted Lambrusco in at least 40
> years.

When I was in college, I shared a bottle of Amontillado with a girl who
invited me to dinner. I bought it because of Edgar Allan Poe's short
story. I don't miss never having it again.

leo

[dsi1]

On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 7:26:04 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> About a year ago, and because of posts here, I thought I'd buy some
> kimchee. I found it in the refrigerated section and brought a jar home.
> My wife and SIL put the groceries away.
> A week or two later, I found the kimchee in the pantry. I threw it away.
> I still haven't tasted kimchee.

Unless you're going to eat kim chee with some rice and a meat dish, I wouldn't bother. A Korean would never eat kim chee without rice. They are like kim chee vampires. To you, it would be some spicy, fermented, cabbage. For Koreans, it's their lifeblood.
Hawaii has a lot of different kinds of kim chee. I grew up on local style kim chee - it's some pretty mild stuff. These days, I like the stronger Korean style kim chee. The King of Kim Chee in Hawaii is a guy called Mike Irish. I kid you not.

https://www.midweek.com/king-of-kimchi-mike-irish/

[Gary]

"HEY! What about me?" murmured the ferret. heh heh

I agree Michael, cute photo.
I had one cat and two ferrets. They got along well.

[dsi1]

On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:18:35 PM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>
> I finally got around to making that "Mississippi Pot Roast" that was posted
> here about two weeks ago. The instructions said to slow cook for 8 hours
> but when I checked my extra lean chuck it wasn't as tender as I had hoped
> for. I let it go for another 2 hours on low and this time it was truly falling
> apart tender and the house smells really good, too. A quick sampling of
> the meat and it is delicious and not salty as had been feared in the original
> post. I could even smell those peppers in the pot and it will probably be
> some mashed potatoes accompanying this dish.

Tonight I made some chicken breast with mushrooms and tomatoes. It's packed in a plastic container for my wife's meal at work.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/eYPo9GvdEsrax2bh9

[Gary]

On 1/25/2022 4:59 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> Tonight I made some chicken breast with mushrooms and tomatoes. > It's packed in a plastic container for my wife's meal at work.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/eYPo9GvdEsrax2bh9

Looks very tasty. What are the white sprinkles on top?

You also put a glaze on that. That's often the good part.
what did you use there? Broth with cornstarch

[Dave Smith]

Sherry... yech. It is one alcoholic drink that I never could find a way
to enjoy. My wife likes Amontillado and I have bought a few bottles of
it for her. Being assure it was a good sherry I tried it but it had the
same sensations that all the other sherries had.

[songbird]

Gary wrote:
> On 1/23/2022 5:56 PM, Bruce 3 wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:18:32 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What will be gracing your table this evening??
>>

>> A new batch of tempeh has been in the making, so...
>
> I'll have to try that someday. It sounds interesting. I wonder if anyone
> sells it commercially just to get an idea of the taste before making it
> yourself?

that's what i did and i'm glad because i didn't like it
enough and so it saved me the hassle. i do like soy milk
and tofu enough to have those at times and i used to make
my own soymilk which is not that hard to do, the only
equipment you need is a good pot, blender and a fine mesh
strainer to get the liquid to separate from whatever the
blender could not get fine enough. tofu is just the next
step after making soymilk if you want to curdle it and
then drain it and firm it up to whatever level of density
you'd like.

> Same here with kimchee. I'll have to try some first before I ferment
> food to eat.

i already know i like that because i like fermented
cabbage and hot chili sauces of various kinds. it is up
to you what else you want to put in there.


songbird

[Ophelia]

That is lovely and just perfect:))

[Graham]

When I was a student, I went to a sherry tasting but didn't spit! The
hangover afterwards put me off the stuff.

[Dave Smith]

I find it to have strange qualities similar to liver. The taste is okay
but the texture is weird. I felt that I was drinking a fluid but it was
not wet. My wife insists that the dry sherries are better than sweet,
but I found them to have the same unpleasant sensation.

[Michael Trew]

On 1/24/2022 13:49, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 1:41:49 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 1/24/2022 11:20, Gary wrote:

>>> On 1/24/2022 11:09 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2022 9:56 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 07:28:18 -0500, Gary<g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GM wrote:
>>>>>>> A yogurt for dessert if needed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like yogurt but I like to stir in something crunchy with it. Like
>>>>>> Honey Nuts and Oats cereal. That name is probable not quite correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I never have dessert as the last course of a meal. I'll wait
>>>>>> hours later and have it for snack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Big Mac is also a very good late night snack. lol
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who sleep alone.
>>>> Exactly Sheldon (and Bryan).
>>>> I can do what I want and anytime I want.
>>>>
>>>> I can watch tv all night long in bed (and I do) plus during a
>>>> commercial break, I can heat up a refrigerated Big Mac in the
>>>> microwave, and be back in bed with a good hot snack before the program
>>>> resumes.
>>>> Other precooked snacks also apply.
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget my bedroom light is also on all night long so I can read.
>>>> And my little fan too for "white noise."
>>>>
>>>> No sane woman would want to share a bed with me. A ferret sharing a

>>>> bed with me, well...they don't care what I do. Plus they won't talk
>>>> your ear off...ever. Cats are the same.
>>>>

>>>> I've had several old customers that had separate bedrooms.
>>>>
>>>> It's pretty much a win-win situation here. LOL
>> I'd rather sleep next to a warm body, and have someone to talk to.
>>> Once, I worked for an older couple (about my age) and the woman had
>>> almost the exact night time habits as me. Her husband usually slept
>>> downstairs in the guest bedroom. LOL
>>>
>>> They liked/loved each other fine. They just couldn't sleep together.

>> My grandparents slept in separate beds for years also. I don't get it,
>> that sounds miserable. If someone isn't even compatible enough with you
>> to sleep in the same room, what's the point? Might as well just be
>> roommates.
>

> What happens if your spouse suddenly starts snoring so loudly
> that you cannot get any sleep, or if you develop some medical
> condition like restless leg that makes you a poor bedmate?
>
> Divorce?
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I don't know anything about restless leg syndrome, but the snoring
should be looked into ASAP. Might be sleep apnea, which could really
shorten your life. Sleeping in separate bedrooms for snoring is like
covering up symptoms rather than dealing with the problem.

[Michael Trew]

On 1/24/2022 15:04, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2022-01-24 1:49 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 1:41:49 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>>>> They liked/loved each other fine. They just couldn't sleep together.
>>> My grandparents slept in separate beds for years also. I don't get it,
>>> that sounds miserable. If someone isn't even compatible enough with you
>>> to sleep in the same room, what's the point? Might as well just be
>>> roommates.
>>
>> What happens if your spouse suddenly starts snoring so loudly
>> that you cannot get any sleep, or if you develop some medical
>> condition like restless leg that makes you a poor bedmate?
>>
>> Divorce?
>

> I have to admit that I sleep better alone. Most mornings I wake up and
> the sheets are a mess and it is a big job to make the bed. If my wife is
> away and I sleep alone I wake up, get out of bed and just pull the
> bedding over and the bed is made

Same way here, I usually don't move at all in my sleep. It takes
seconds to make the bed, just smooth the covers over.

[Michael Trew]

On 1/24/2022 14:06, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> We're lucky not having to rely on our children or
> grandchildren. Sometimes we need help with chores and we have very
> good neighbors.

Lucky for now, but I imagine that at time will come where you wished
that they were closer to you, as you age and lose mobility. Some can
live for years with someone checking up on them, but would otherwise
have to move to an assisted living facility. I see it happen real time
with a few of my grandparents, who are/were anywhere from 5 to about 20
years older than you are.

[Michael Trew]

On 1/24/2022 15:39, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 2:20:50 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
>>
>> The whole mask thing is so ridiculous, a cheap cloth mask is useless against viruses...
>>
>> --
>> GM

I've been saying that all along, watch videos of people wearing
tight-fitting masks exhaling water vapor. As good as useless.

> https://i.postimg.cc/SRgvf9Xg/Effectiveness-of-Masks.jpg

LOL

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-25 9:25 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:

>
> I don't know anything about restless leg syndrome, but the snoring
> should be looked into ASAP.  Might be sleep apnea, which could really
> shorten your life.  Sleeping in separate bedrooms for snoring is like
> covering up symptoms rather than dealing with the problem.

My wife complained that I snored. I didn't think I did. I thought she
was waking herself up with her own snowing. When I was in the hospital
last year she told the doctor about my alleged snoring so he arranged
for me to go go for a sleep study.I went even though I was sure I did
not have apnea. I had a hard getting to sleep all wired up and in a
cold room with too few sheets. All that hassle and it turned out that I
do not have an sleep apnea problem. My incidents of apnea were actually
below the average.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Far from perfect but they do help. If it knocks down the virus moving 2
feet instead of 6, it may save you.

Can face coverings reduce the risk of COVID-19?
A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment
notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments,
found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70%
reduced risk

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

[Tony]

Most people who snore, don't have apnea. They just snore.

[Tony]

[dsi1]

The sprinkles are sesame seeds, seaweed, and wasabi bits. The sauce was thickened with some cornstarch. I don't typically make a slurry with broth, just water. That's a basic Chinese technique.
My wife's dinner tonight is salt broiled salmon with teriyaki glaze. There's also rice (of course), some imitation crab salad, and marinated clams.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5tWqb9HTymxPSZAV6

[Ophelia]

THAT is a relief to hear!!!! I hope you are right!

What makes you say that, Michael?

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 4:25:54 PM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:>
> I don't know anything about restless leg syndrome, but the snoring
> should be looked into ASAP. Might be sleep apnea, which could really
> shorten your life. Sleeping in separate bedrooms for snoring is like
> covering up symptoms rather than dealing with the problem.

Snoring helps with being able to monitor a sleeping person's breathing. It's kind of exciting to listen to someone when they break rhythm and you're holding your breath along with them.
My son has sleep apnea and wears a CPAP at night. Brain scans has revealed some brain inactivity i.e., brain damage. He has been taking TMS treatments, the results have been encouraging.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/specialty_areas/brain_stimulation/tms/

[Dave Smith]

There is a strong link between sleep apnea and heart disease. That is
the reason I was pushed to do the sleep study. It was a complete waste
of my time. I was damned sure I did not have apnea and the test showed
that I experience less than the normal amount.

[dsi1]

You win some, you lose some. Your spouse should be able to tell you stop breathing at night - but maybe not. Bill Cosby had a funny bit about his dad snoring loudly at night. He would stop all of a sudden and the whole house would be waiting for him to start up again. I used to think that was funny but times have changed. Sleep apnea is not funny and neither is old Bill anymore.

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-26 6:59 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> You win some, you lose some. Your spouse should be able to tell you
> stop breathing at night - but maybe not. Bill Cosby had a funny bit
> about his dad snoring loudly at night. He would stop all of a sudden
> and the whole house would be waiting for him to start up again. I
> used to think that was funny but times have changed. Sleep apnea is
> not funny and neither is old Bill anymore.

If you don't like like apnea I hope you never have to sit through a
death watch and have the person stop breathing for a period of time. Ypu
think they are gone and then all of a sudden they gasp and come back to
life.

[Hank Rogers]

I bet you shoved that result in your wife's face dave.

And she stayed with you, naturally.

[dsi1]

I have seen this happen. Ick.

[Tony]

[Michael Trew]

My father had it, and that's what is doctor said. I heard it is bad for
your heart (but that might just be sleep apnea). There were times that
Dad stopped breathing through the night. Even if most people who snore
don't have it, best to get checked, I would suggest.

[Michael Trew]

It was a complete waste of your time to make sure that you didn't have
sleep apnea? That's stupid. Then again, you might as well never get
your prostate checked, checked for cancer, or anything... heck, cancel
all of your doctor appointments. It's all a waste of time.

[Tony]

What if they need a blood sample to test for something?

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-27 1:35 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/26/2022 17:43, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-01-26 2:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

>> There is a strong link between sleep apnea and heart disease. That is
>> the reason I was pushed to do the sleep study. It was a complete waste
>> of my time. I was damned sure I did not have apnea and the test showed
>> that I experience less than the normal amount.
>
> It was a complete waste of your time to make sure that you didn't have
> sleep apnea?  That's stupid.

I was quite certain that I did not have it. It only confirmed what I
already knew.

> Then again, you might as well never get
> your prostate checked, checked for cancer, or anything... heck, cancel
> all of your doctor appointments.  It's all a waste of time.

Really? I have posted here about being high risk because my father died
of prostate cancer. I do get checked regularly for it. I also
participate in the Right For Dads to raise money for prostate cancer
research and education.

[Tony]

This is my frogger. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Ophelia]

Oh dear, I am so sorry to hear that, That is very scary!!!

Thank you!!! D. snores, but not constantly. I will certainly keep in
mind what you are saying, so thank you VERY much!!!!!!

[Tony]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:53:48 +0000, Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[Michael Trew]

You're welcome. If you ever hear him "stop" breathing for several
seconds while sleeping, that's when I'd be concerned. Dad would gasp
for air after several seconds, and start snoring again. It was pretty
loud, almost violent. I don't know how he slept through that. It was
very disconcerting, to say the least.

[GM]

Tonga has the highest percentage of Latter-day Saints of any country in the world (nearly 63%; about the same as Utah’s).


--
GM

[Michael Trew]

I was being facetious, in a passive aggressive way. Perhaps you didn't
intend it this way, but your post that I responded to came off as
pompous. Either way, I'm glad that you don't have sleep apnea. Also,
I'm curious as to how you knew that you didn't have it. As I understand
it, most people are completely unaware. Dad didn't even know that he
snored, except for people reminding him.

[Ophelia]

Yes I imagine it must have been!!!

Oh dear, I think I will always be on alert now!

From what I see now, if it is very loud, he wakes himself up! I won't
be plugging my ears up at night any more!!!

[Ronny]

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-28 12:21 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/27/2022 14:12, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-01-27 1:35 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 1/26/2022 17:43, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2022-01-26 2:47 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>> There is a strong link between sleep apnea and heart disease. That is
>>>> the reason I was pushed to do the sleep study. It was a complete waste
>>>> of my time. I was damned sure I did not have apnea and the test showed
>>>> that I experience less than the normal amount.
>>>
>>> It was a complete waste of your time to make sure that you didn't have
>>> sleep apnea?  That's stupid.
>>
>> I was quite certain that I did not have it. It only confirmed what I
>> already knew.
>>
>>
>>> Then again, you might as well never get your prostate checked, checked
>>> for cancer, or anything... heck, cancel all of your doctor
>>> appointments.  It's all a waste of time.
>>
>> Really? I have posted here about being high risk because my father died
>> of prostate cancer. I do get checked regularly for it. I also
>> participate in the Right For Dads to raise money for prostate cancer
>> research and education.
>
> I was being facetious, in a passive aggressive way.  Perhaps you didn't
> intend it this way, but your post that I responded to came off as
> pompous.

I don't what would make you think it was pompous. I was being pressured
by my family to get it done. My son was adamant about it because he was
at the hospital when a doctor suggested I should look into it because of
the link between apnea and heart problems and because my wife said that
I snored. I think my son was pushing it partly because he has sleep
issues and, as it turned out, he was there for a study the same night I
was.

>  Either way, I'm glad that you don't have sleep apnea.  Also,
> I'm curious as to how you knew that you didn't have it.

I have some knowledge about sleep, and not just my extensive experience
at it. I took some physiological psychology courses at university and
one course on sleep. I knew about apnea. My wife's concern was that I
snore. Snoring is not apnea. I tended to be a sound sleeper. She had no
observations about my breathing stopping and then starting again after a
pause.

[cshenk]

Exactly. It's the same concept as layered security. Each layer can be
defeated by a thief or hacker, but collectively, they make you a 'hard
target' so they go elsewhere.

Some folks want '100% or not bothering'. In the world of security, we
call them 'easy targets'.