O. T. --- Victorian Slum House

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Just and fyi for those that might like to catch the
new show.

Tonight on my local PBS station at 7:00 p.m. CST (8:00 p.m.
EST) starts the series "Victorian Slum House." This is a new
season of the previous shows such as "Pioneer House" and
hopefully it will be as interesting and entertaining as the
previous shows.

[Nancy2]

I found it kinda silly, being set in a busy metro area. How do the producers expect to
keep up the charade? At least in the Pioneer House, the homesteads were pretty
much isolated from any urban centers, and the homesteads didn't have to depend on
masses of modern-day public to make a living, so to speak.

And the accents were difficult for me to understand at times.

Like I said, a silly unrealistic portrayal. I don't know how they expect this to accurately
portray the period and the slum-dwellers.

N.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I guess they were just trying to give an idea of how hard keeping
body and soul together in Victorian England was. Like the presenter
said, no healthcare and welfare; you were pretty much on your own.
What I found so hard to believe was the price of shelter and they
were in essentially a dump.

Doesn't the idea of eating meats smoked in the outhouse sound yummy?

The next episode is to be set in the 1870's and from the preview
there is a bit of squabbling already.

[Gary]

what?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 5:54:29 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
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> what?
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Nothing, go back to sleep.

[Sky]

Thanks for the heads-up. Should be an insightful show. I "DVRed" (er,
recorded) it to watch at a later, more convenient time. Isn't "DVR"
just wonderful (grin)?! A wonderful feature, although it ain't free,
that's for sure, sigh. Hmm. . . "Victorian Slum House" might also be
available "on demand," too, through one's 'video' service (cable, air,
satellite, etc.). Perhaps the show is readily accessible via PBS's
website, too?

Sky

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[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:25:59 PM UTC-5, Sky wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads-up. Should be an insightful show. I "DVRed" (er,
> recorded) it to watch at a later, more convenient time. Isn't "DVR"
> just wonderful (grin)?! A wonderful feature, although it ain't free,
> that's for sure, sigh. Hmm. . . "Victorian Slum House" might also be
> available "on demand," too, through one's 'video' service (cable, air,
> satellite, etc.). Perhaps the show is readily accessible via PBS's
> website, too?
>
> Sky
>
>

I do enjoy my DVR, too, although it's not connected to the
internet so I'm not able to 'watch on demand.' But my
local PBS station does repeat their prime-time programs
in the wee hours of the morning and later in the week,
also. Check out PBS to see if you can watch it online.

[dsi1]

You should be able to stream it from the PBS website, at least, I can. It looks like a most unpleasant show!

[jmcquown]

On 5/3/2017 6:35 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 5:15:44 PM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> I found it kinda silly, being set in a busy metro area. How do the producers expect to
>> keep up the charade? At least in the Pioneer House, the homesteads were pretty
>> much isolated from any urban centers, and the homesteads didn't have to depend on
>> masses of modern-day public to make a living, so to speak.
>>
>> And the accents were difficult for me to understand at times.
>>
>> Like I said, a silly unrealistic portrayal. I don't know how they expect this to accurately
>> portray the period and the slum-dwellers.
>>
>> N.
>>
>>
> I guess they were just trying to give an idea of how hard keeping
> body and soul together in Victorian England was. Like the presenter
> said, no healthcare and welfare; you were pretty much on your own.
> What I found so hard to believe was the price of shelter and they
> were in essentially a dump.
>

Joan (and Nancy2), do you remember the PBS series '1900 House'? That
featured a family selected to live like a typical middle class family in
a refurbished Victorian rowhouse. Fascinating stuff. Of course you
can't keep out the modern aspects of what is going on around them. But
they strive for authenticity as much as possible.

I loved the Pioneer House series, too. :)

> Doesn't the idea of eating meats smoked in the outhouse sound yummy?
>
> The next episode is to be set in the 1870's and from the preview
> there is a bit of squabbling already.
>

I didn't get to see it on TV last night. I checked and 'Victorian Slum
House' is available for viewing on one of my local PBS web sites. :)

I'll be watching the first episode online today and will try to catch
the next one on TV next week.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I missed it last night. I checked and I am able to watch that episode
online. :) I'll do that today, then try to remember to watch the next
episode on television next week.

I watch a lot of PBS programming but never saw this one advertised.
Then again, I get two different PBS stations, one out of Georgia and the
other South Carolina. Sometimes they show the same things, but not always.

This is nice to know about, thanks!

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
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> Joan (and Nancy2), do you remember the PBS series '1900 House'? That
> featured a family selected to live like a typical middle class family in
> a refurbished Victorian rowhouse. Fascinating stuff. Of course you
> can't keep out the modern aspects of what is going on around them. But
> they strive for authenticity as much as possible.
>
> I loved the Pioneer House series, too. :)
>

Yes, I watched both and the Pioneer House participants, the
main family, were quite annoying and whiny. You could
definitely tell who wore the pants in that family!

>
> I didn't get to see it on TV last night. I checked and 'Victorian Slum
> House' is available for viewing on one of my local PBS web sites. :)
>
> I'll be watching the first episode online today and will try to catch
> the next one on TV next week.
>
> Jill
>

I thought it was rather interesting and am looking forward
to the next episode.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:35:15 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> I watch a lot of PBS programming but never saw this one advertised.
> Then again, I get two different PBS stations, one out of Georgia and the
> other South Carolina. Sometimes they show the same things, but not always.
>
> This is nice to know about, thanks!
>
> Jill
>
>

They did advertise it on my local PBS station but not heavily.
I'd almost forgotten about it until I saw a blurb while
watching PBS Sunday night.

I get two PBS stations as well and other one is from a city
about 100 miles east of me. They have almost the same
programs but I catch things on the far away station that
are not broadcast on mine.

[The Greatest!]

It seemed not to get all the hoopla of the earlier "xxxx House" shows...

I could see where Marx' initial philosophy was formed, e.g. that the world was formerly feudal, now it was in a capitalist stage, and eventually socialism/communism would be the penultimate stage of human development...

Slowly, the lot of these common people would improve, and more people would be lifted out of that dire poverty. Eventually, reforms such as labor laws, unionization, minimum wages, social security, pensions, health insurance and the like would be commonplace in most of the developed world by the 1950's. Wilhelmine Germany actually led the way in these reforms around the turn of the 19th into the 20th century...

Marx predicted that "The Revolution" would first occur in the advanced capitalist states, especially Germany and Britain. Instead, the Bolshevik Revolution occurred in 1917 Russia - where the vast majority of the population lived at, or even below, what we saw on this TV show.

The Soviets still held this view of old - fashioned brutal Victorian capitalism into the 1950's. When Soviet leaders starting visiting the West - especially Khrushchev - they saw that ordinary workers had cars, homes, a decent standard of life, good food, much abundance was available to the "common man". When Khrushchev and others first encountered things like an American auto plant, he was shocked, saying, "Whose cars are these parked around the plant? You can't have this many managers!" He was flabbergasted when told that they were the worker's cars, an auto worker in the West could afford to buy the products that they built - this was not true in the USSR, where only the managers could have cars.

Anyways, history lecture over for now...


--
Best
Greg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 12:16:25 PM UTC-5, The Greatest! wrote:
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> Anyways, history lecture over for now...
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> Best
> Greg
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>
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[The Greatest!]

Lol...

8-D


--
Best
Greg

[Nancy2]

Jill, I remember the other re-enactment "lifestyle" shows on PBS...the Pioneer House,
though, was my favorite.

N.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

> Best
> Greg
>
>
;-))

[jmcquown]

PBS also aired 'Colonial House'. I didn't see that series. :(

Jill

[notbob]

On 2017-05-05, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> PBS also aired 'Colonial House'. I didn't see that series. :(

Isn't that the one with Oprah and her friend, Gayle? Some wag on the
set said Oprah spent all her time expounding on how, "I ain't gonna
play no slave!".

I loved Pioneer House. The last episode where the rich wife hugs her
washer/dryer and the two rich daughters are bummed cuz "the mall" no
longer holds any attraction for them. ;)

nb