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Graham

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Jan 2, 2021, 8:57:04 PM1/2/21
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*Yet obesity is a major health problem in the USA and is becoming so in
other "civilised" countries.*


Starvation is agonizing and degrading. You lose control of your bowels.
Your skin peels off, your hair falls out, you hallucinate and you may go
blind from lack of vitamin A. While you waste away, your body cannibalizes
itself: It consumes its own muscles, even the heart.
Yet Abdo Sayid, a 4-year-old boy so emaciated he weighed just 14 pounds,
wasn’t crying when he was brought to a hospital recently in Aden, Yemen.
That’s because children who are starving don’t cry or even frown. Instead,
they are eerily calm; they appear apathetic, often expressionless. A body
that is starving doesn’t waste energy on tears. It directs every calorie to
keep the major organs functioning.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/opinion/sunday/2020-worst-year-famine.html

GM

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Jan 2, 2021, 9:22:55 PM1/2/21
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What is your point of posting this here, *exactly*, Graham...???

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GM

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/5/6/us-announces-225m-in-emergency-food-aid-to-yemen

6 May 2020

US announces $225m in emergency food aid to Yemen

Around 80 percent of Yemen’s population, or 24 million people, rely on aid, and 10 million are facing famine.

"The United States on Wednesday announced it would provide $225m in emergency aid to Yemen to support food programmes, and called on the Houthis to do more to allow aid operations to operate “independently and neutrally”.

US Secretary of Mike Pompeo told a news conference that the funding Washington is committing would go to the UN World Food Programme’s (WFP) emergency food operation in southern Yemen, as well as its reduced operation in northern Yemen.

The WFP said it was going to halve the aid it gives to people in parts of Yemen controlled by the Houthi movement from mid-April after donors cut funding over concerns the Houthis are hindering aid deliveries.

Yemen is already grappling with the world’s biggest humanitarian crisis caused by a war between the Saudi-led coalition seeking to restore the internationally recognized government, and the Houthi movement that drove the government from power in Sanaa in late 2014.

In a conference call with reporters, officials with the US Agency for International Development (USAID) and the US State Department said while there has been some limited progress in aid operations recently, Houthis still needed to do more for funding to return.

The steps included “concrete actions to remove impediments including approvals, or travel permits to deliver aid, on partner agreements halting interference in the selection of beneficiaries and allowing agencies to operate independently and neutrally on the basis of need,” said Richard Albright, a deputy assistant secretary at the US State Department.

“Certain barriers have been beginning to move, but it’s been much more in the theoretical and talking stage, and we haven’t seen a lot of action,” said Matt Nims, deputy director of USAID’s Office of Food for Peace.

Around 80 percent of Yemen’s population, or 24 million people, rely on aid, and 10 million are facing famine. Yemen has the world’s fourth-highest internally displaced population and healthcare is scarce in rural areas.

The country has reported a total of 26 coronavirus infections with six deaths, but due to inadequate testing and a shattered health system aid groups fear a devastating outbreak. According to WHO, only 200 tests with results have been delivered nationwide.

Under such conditions, gaps in aid funding are a major risk. The United Nations last week warned that 31 of 41 major UN humanitarian assistance programmes would scale down or stop in coming weeks without more money as donors and aid agencies have increasingly complained of interference and obstruction from Houthi authorities..."

SOURCE : REUTERS


Sqwertz

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Jan 2, 2021, 10:54:34 PM1/2/21
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 18:56:59 -0700, Graham wrote:

> Starvation is agonizing and degrading. You lose control of your bowels.
> Your skin peels off, your hair falls out, you hallucinate and you may go
> blind from lack of vitamin A. While you waste away, your body cannibalizes
> itself: It consumes its own muscles, even the heart.
> Yet Abdo Sayid, a 4-year-old boy so emaciated he weighed just 14 pounds,
> wasn’t crying when he was brought to a hospital recently in Aden, Yemen.
> That’s because children who are starving don’t cry or even frown. Instead,
> they are eerily calm; they appear apathetic, often expressionless. A body
> that is starving doesn’t waste energy on tears. It directs every calorie to
> keep the major organs functioning.

I bet if I waved a candy bar in front if his face it would smile.

-sw

Lucretia Borgia

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Jan 3, 2021, 7:01:25 AM1/3/21
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Possibly to make people donate or at the very least, stop wasting.
Often when I put stuff like veggie peelings in the green bin I am
appalled at what I see in there, usually stuff that should have been
used sooner etc. In NA it is too easy to 'waste' what would be
grabbed and eaten elsewhere.

Janet

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Jan 3, 2021, 7:44:13 AM1/3/21
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In article <h2vmjtgny465$.d...@sqwertz.com>, sqwe...@gmail.invalid
says...

>
> I bet if I waved a candy bar in front if his face it would smile.


Ignorance of the ugly American abroad who knows nothing because even
when informed, he wasn't listening.


Janet UK

Dave Smith

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Jan 3, 2021, 10:14:00 AM1/3/21
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On 2021-01-03 7:01 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 18:22:51 -0800 (PST), GM

>>
>> What is your point of posting this here, *exactly*, Graham...???
>
> Possibly to make people donate or at the very least, stop wasting.
> Often when I put stuff like veggie peelings in the green bin I am
> appalled at what I see in there, usually stuff that should have been
> used sooner etc. In NA it is too easy to 'waste' what would be
> grabbed and eaten elsewhere.
>

It is not a matter of us over buying food and ending up throwing it out.
Many of these famines have human causes. While there is the occasional
case of famine or plagues destroying the crops, the more common problem
is conflict and warfare. Farmers are forced off the land, can't harvest
their crops, can't get it to market.

One thing that I have always found perplexing about natural famines is
the size of the the families of the afflicted people. During the
Ethiopian famine in the mid 80s the media often had photos of families
showing up at aid stations with 8 or more kids.The land has never been
kind to the people in that country and it has always been a struggle to
find food, but the continue to have large families that they can't feed.
It is hard to understand.

Lucretia Borgia

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Jan 3, 2021, 10:20:20 AM1/3/21
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Think about it, if you can't find food to buy, do you seriously think
you can find or afford any form of birth control??? Apart from that
natures way is to produce more off spring to try and have at least one
left to help you in your old age.

If you're thinking well they should avoid sexual relations for birth
control, that is probably the only pleasure they do have in life!

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 3, 2021, 11:19:06 AM1/3/21
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On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 10:20:20 AM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> Think about it, if you can't find food to buy, do you seriously think
> you can find or afford any form of birth control??? Apart from that
> natures way is to produce more off spring to try and have at least one
> left to help you in your old age.

Nature doesn't care about you in your old age. It "cares" about propagating
your genome. Once that's done, nature is done with you.

> If you're thinking well they should avoid sexual relations for birth
> control, that is probably the only pleasure they do have in life!

Those women often have absolutely no choice in whether they will
engage in sexual relations, even with their husbands.

Cindy Hamilton

GM

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Jan 3, 2021, 11:19:49 AM1/3/21
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Steve personally has done quite a lot to alleviate hunger - how much have *you* done, Janet UK...???

https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org/news/honoring-steve-wertz-volunteer-quarter

"The Food Bank would like to congratulate its Volunteer Leader of the Quarter, Mr. Steve Wertz. Since 2010, Steve has volunteered over 800 hours at the Food Bank. Steve began as an administrative volunteer, helping with data entry of volunteer hours. In 2011, he decided he wanted a more physically active volunteer role and began to volunteer in Product Recovery. After quickly establishing himself as a key volunteer, he was nominated as a Volunteer Leader in 2012 and happily accepted the promotion. Steve went above and beyond by committing to shifts two days a week in Product Recovery.

As a Volunteer Leader, Steve is helpful and courteous with volunteers and always eager to help. Ellen Weaver, Product Recovery Assistant, says, ““I’ve only known Steve for a brief span of time, but within that time he has demonstrated excellence in leadership, accountability, and a determination to fulfill the mission of the Food Bank. The Food Bank and the Product Recovery team are quite lucky to have the presence of a hard worker like Steve.”

In addition to helping in Product Recovery, Steve has volunteered for many years at Austin Reggae Festival and Hot Sauce Fest. He’s not afraid to fundraise and “foodraise” (his term). Steve says that he likes to see the whole process of food banking, from the time the food leaves a donor’s hand to the time it is sorted and headed out the door to folks who need it. When asked what one of his favorite things is about volunteering at the Food Bank, he said, “It's a fun atmosphere to interact with people you may otherwise never meet, all while providing an important service to the local community. Often times you'll meet other volunteers again outside of the food bank who will remember you and that usually gives you chance to follow-up with them to find out that that they had a worthwhile, enjoyable experience as well.”

Thank you so much for all of your hard work and commitment to ending hunger in Central Texas, Steve!..."

</>

GM

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Jan 3, 2021, 11:47:53 AM1/3/21
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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 18:22:51 -0800 (PST), GM
> <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Graham wrote:
> >> *Yet obesity is a major health problem in the USA and is becoming so in
> >> other "civilised" countries.*
> >>
> >>
> >> Starvation is agonizing and degrading. You lose control of your bowels.
> >> Your skin peels off, your hair falls out, you hallucinate and you may go
> >> blind from lack of vitamin A. While you waste away, your body cannibalizes
> >> itself: It consumes its own muscles, even the heart.
> >> Yet Abdo Sayid, a 4-year-old boy so emaciated he weighed just 14 pounds,
> >> wasn’t crying when he was brought to a hospital recently in Aden, Yemen.
> >> That’s because children who are starving don’t cry or even frown. Instead,
> >> they are eerily calm; they appear apathetic, often expressionless. A body
> >> that is starving doesn’t waste energy on tears. It directs every calorie to
> >> keep the major organs functioning.
> >>
> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/opinion/sunday/2020-worst-year-famine.html
> >
> >
> >What is your point of posting this here, *exactly*, Graham...???
> Possibly to make people donate


"make people donate"...???


or at the very least, stop wasting.
> Often when I put stuff like veggie peelings in the green bin I am
> appalled at what I see in there, usually stuff that should have been
> used sooner etc. In NA it is too easy to 'waste' what would be
> grabbed and eaten elsewhere.


Are you making stock out of those lobster shells...???

;-)

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Dave Smith

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Jan 3, 2021, 12:22:56 PM1/3/21
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On 2021-01-03 10:20 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 10:13:52 -0500, Dave Smith

>> One thing that I have always found perplexing about natural famines is
>> the size of the the families of the afflicted people. During the
>> Ethiopian famine in the mid 80s the media often had photos of families
>> showing up at aid stations with 8 or more kids.The land has never been
>> kind to the people in that country and it has always been a struggle to
>> find food, but the continue to have large families that they can't feed.
>> It is hard to understand.
>
> Think about it, if you can't find food to buy, do you seriously think
> you can find or afford any form of birth control???


I have thought about it. I found it perplexing.


> Apart from that
> natures way is to produce more off spring to try and have at least one
> left to help you in your old age.

That is a strange sort of planning when the mothers are going to be
stuck looking after their babies and young children. The parents are
unable to work, so it makes it even more difficult for them to make
money for food. They get stuck in poverty and the kids end up stuck in
that same cycle of poverty.


> If you're thinking well they should avoid sexual relations for birth
> control, that is probably the only pleasure they do have in life!

I don't suppose it helps that we have self righteous twits like Mother
Teresa virtue signalling their strong religious beliefs by working among
the poor while at the same time working to deny them access to birth
control.



songbird

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Jan 3, 2021, 12:54:45 PM1/3/21
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
> Those women often have absolutely no choice in whether they will
> engage in sexual relations, even with their husbands.

the other thing is that they lose so many children to
illnesses and other issues.

once the health care and stability comes around almost
all societies so far that used to have large families will
have fewer children. and of course when the women get
educated and more in control of what happens to them.

the best population control so far has been education
for women and giving them the power to manage their own
affairs.


songbird

Lucretia Borgia

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:35:44 PM1/3/21
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 08:47:48 -0800 (PST), GM
No but otherwise, not a bite was wasted, we even 'clean' out the legs.
When I put the shells in the green bin just now right on top was 3/4
loaf of bread.

Lucretia Borgia

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:37:52 PM1/3/21
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That definitely works into the sum as well, I see the Vatican
expressed it's disappointed that up to 14 weeks an abortion is now
legal in Argentina.

Lucretia Borgia

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:39:43 PM1/3/21
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:51:01 -0500, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:
I would say the best population control was the advent of the birth
control pill ! Amazing how many of us immediately stopped having
more - and that included RC families as well although they were
adamant they were not taking the pill !

Graham

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:48:45 PM1/3/21
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The Vatican is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Eire is throwing off the
yoke but it's a pity that it still holds sway in Poland.

GM

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:52:32 PM1/3/21
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The Catholic Poles were instrumental in throwing off the communist "yoke", Graham - first in Poland, and then their example inspired others in the communist East Bloc states to dispatch hated communism...

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Master Bruce

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:59:38 PM1/3/21
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A dog with a bone.

Master Bruce

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:00:23 PM1/3/21
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Poland is a retarded country.

Ed Pawlowski

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Unfortunately, in some countries women are often denied education and
men are still in charge of them. Top that off with political problems
and religion, it is a tough cycle to break. Legitimate aid to some is
often taken by the political elite instead of the masses.

Dave Smith

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:39:19 PM1/3/21
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\

Don't be too quick to put too much faith in the women in those
countries. Many of those countries in Africa where there are high birth
rates are Islamic and they are also the places where they practice
female genital mutilation. That is done by the women. It would appear
that they have some strange ideas about sex and desire, and I just can't
understand why normal people would do that.

Graham

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:52:05 PM1/3/21
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What about male genital mutilation? That's practised by Jews, inter alia!
Really, when it comes down to it, ALL religions are obsessed with sex!

Dave Smith

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:52:14 PM1/3/21
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In some of those countries education is little more than learning how to
read and memorizing the Quran.

Master Bruce

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:56:17 PM1/3/21
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Organised religion is evil.

GM

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:59:24 PM1/3/21
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Galatians 5:19-21 ESV

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God..."

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Dave Smith

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Jan 3, 2021, 3:02:54 PM1/3/21
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I don't think it is the same at all. I won't pretend to understand the
Jewish c ideas about a covenant with God, but there is a hygiene
component to it. Most male boomers got the snip and have no memory of it
and suffered no bad consequences. A lot the attitude was based on the
horror stories that war veterans shared about comrades having had bad
infections and having to undergo circumcision in their 20s. FGM, OTOH
involves removal of the parts that give them pleasure and sewing thing
up to make sure they can't enjoy it.

Master Bruce

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On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 15:02:48 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2021-01-03 2:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 14:39:12 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Don't be too quick to put too much faith in the women in those
>>> countries. Many of those countries in Africa where there are high birth
>>> rates are Islamic and they are also the places where they practice
>>> female genital mutilation. That is done by the women. It would appear
>>> that they have some strange ideas about sex and desire, and I just can't
>>> understand why normal people would do that.
>>
>> What about male genital mutilation? That's practised by Jews, inter alia!
>> Really, when it comes down to it, ALL religions are obsessed with sex!
>>
>
>I don't think it is the same at all. I won't pretend to understand the
>Jewish c ideas about a covenant with God, but there is a hygiene
>component to it. Most male boomers got the snip

Maybe in Canada, weirdos.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 3, 2021, 3:48:36 PM1/3/21
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The U.S. as well. I've never seen an uncircumcised man.

Cindy Hamilton

Graham

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Jan 3, 2021, 4:33:04 PM1/3/21
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It was still fashionable in Australia when son #1 was born (we didn't have
it done!) At ante-natal classes, the obstetrition said that he was usually
asked about it by mothers a few days after their son was born. He rhen told
the class that we could have our daughters circumcised too. I think he got
the point across.

Master Bruce

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Jan 3, 2021, 4:35:03 PM1/3/21
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:48:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
I think it's obscene to start cutting into male or female genitals.

Master Bruce

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Jan 3, 2021, 4:35:46 PM1/3/21
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lol, that would work.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 3, 2021, 4:43:36 PM1/3/21
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Isn't the transfiguration a type of sorcery?


cshenk

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Jan 3, 2021, 4:50:23 PM1/3/21
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Correct on all accounts. The Jewish 'Bris' is done 8 days after birth
and modern circumcisions are with medical care and pain killers,
normally in infancy. FGM is done on various ages but normally 8-12
years of age and with no medical presence or care. No pain killers.

The equivalent of FGM on a male is removal of the penis.

Master Bruce

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Jan 3, 2021, 5:25:15 PM1/3/21
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Better keep an eye on those Canadians. They'll stop at nothing!

Leo

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Jan 4, 2021, 3:42:28 AM1/4/21
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On 2021 Jan 3, , Graham wrote
(in article<gz78x1tg617b.14...@40tude.net>):

> What about male genital mutilation? That's practised by Jews, inter alia!
> Really, when it comes down to it, ALL religions are obsessed with sex!

So are agnostics and athiests. Damndest thing! I wonder why?


Leo

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On 2021 Jan 3, , Graham wrote
(in article<792ul0ainkhv$.gva7u4w9...@40tude.net>):

> It was still fashionable in Australia when son #1 was born (we didn't have
> it done!) At ante-natal classes, the obstetrition said that he was usually
> asked about it by mothers a few days after their son was born. He rhen told
> the class that we could have our daughters circumcised too. I think he got
> the point across.

Ask your son if he regrets your decision. I´ll bet he doesn´t.


Master Bruce

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Jan 4, 2021, 5:10:12 AM1/4/21
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:42:21 -0800, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Atheists and agnostics don't make weird sex rules, don't cut babies'
genitals and don't tell you that you can't eat caviar because a
sturgeon has no fins.

Leo

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On 2021 Jan 4, , Master Bruce wrote
(in article<u9q5vft1mb0rnrchu...@4ax.com>):

> Atheists and agnostics don't make weird sex rules, don't cut babies'
> genitals and don't tell you that you can't eat caviar because a
> sturgeon has no fins.

Put five thousand of these enlightened souls together on a previously
deserted island without outside interference, and the strangest rules will
soon emerge, maybe even a new religion. Take it to the bank.


dsi1

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Jan 4, 2021, 6:58:36 AM1/4/21
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Hey that's us you're talking about! The Hawaiians lived in a paradise without disease or health problems. There were lots of gods and war however. That's the breaks.

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 4, 2021, 8:36:24 AM1/4/21
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:42:21 -0800, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

All living things are obsessed with sex/procreation, even plants....
didn't anyone teach you about The Birds & The Bees?

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 4, 2021, 9:27:24 AM1/4/21
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Yeah, its hard work, no fun in that.

Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
news:132370cd-d4c6-418b...@googlegroups.com...
===

Hi:) Do you not have Corvid on your island?

Dave Smith

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Jan 4, 2021, 9:57:52 AM1/4/21
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It is a curious thing. Pornography is the only multi billion dollar
industry that has no customers. People looked down on "smut" for years
because it ran contrary to society's Christian beliefs. Most of us have
slipped away from the tight restraints of the church but porn is now
rejected because it exploits and objectifies women.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 4, 2021, 12:56:46 PM1/4/21
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Which plants have the biggest tits Popeye?


tert in seattle

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gregorymorr...@gmail.com writes:
>On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:44:13 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
>> In article <h2vmjtgny465$.d...@sqwertz.com>, sqwe...@gmail.invalid
>> says...
>> >
>> > I bet if I waved a candy bar in front if his face it would smile.
>> Ignorance of the ugly American abroad who knows nothing because even
>> when informed, he wasn't listening.
>
>
>Steve personally has done quite a lot to alleviate hunger - how much
>have *you* done, Janet UK...???
>
>https://www.centraltexasfoodbank.org/news/honoring-steve-wertz-volunteer-quarter


heh

you are the whatabouter to end all whatabouters

tert in seattle

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gregorymorr...@gmail.com writes:

>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/opinion/sunday/2020-worst-year-famine.html
>
>
>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/5/6/us-announces-225m-in-emergency-food-aid-to-yemen
>


$225 million?


"The member states of the Group of 20 (G20) have sold more than $17bn
worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia since it intervened in neighbouring
Yemen's conflict in 2015, Oxfam said."


<https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/17/g20-members-sold-over-17bn-worth-of-arms-to-saudi-arabia-report>


GM

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Jan 4, 2021, 1:17:57 PM1/4/21
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And rfc is about the only place left where one can engage in such egregious flummery, tert...

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GM

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"SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT BANG BANG BANG KILL KILL KILL..."

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Master Bruce

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 03:58:31 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
Put a bunch of Hawaiians in Paradise and they start killing each
other.
>

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 4, 2021, 2:43:31 PM1/4/21
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And that's different from any other culture in what way?

Cindy Hamilton

Master Bruce

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Jan 4, 2021, 3:21:56 PM1/4/21
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I thought the gentle, humble Hawaiians were beyond such crass human
behaviour.
>

dsi1

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Jan 5, 2021, 1:34:03 AM1/5/21
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These islands have a lot of disease but before the arrival of Capt. Cook, these islands were so kind to the Hawaiians that there apparently were none. Nor were there dietary deficiencies. 150 years after the arrival of Cook, most of the Hawaiians were dead from the pestilence brought by the travelers to this rock. The local plants and animals also suffered from the onslaught. Most of these plants and animals were found nowhere else in the world. These days, most of them have been killed off too.

dsi1

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Master Bruce

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 22:33:58 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 4:53:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> news:132370cd-d4c6-418b...@googlegroups.com...
>> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 1:49:14 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> > On 2021 Jan 4, , Master Bruce wrote
>> > (in article<u9q5vft1mb0rnrchu...@4ax.com>):
>> > > Atheists and agnostics don't make weird sex rules, don't cut babies'
>> > > genitals and don't tell you that you can't eat caviar because a
>> > > sturgeon has no fins.
>> > Put five thousand of these enlightened souls together on a previously
>> > deserted island without outside interference, and the strangest rules will
>> > soon emerge, maybe even a new religion. Take it to the bank.
>> Hey that's us you're talking about! The Hawaiians lived in a paradise
>> without disease or health problems. There were lots of gods and war however.
>> That's the breaks.
>> ===
>>
>> Hi:) Do you not have Corvid on your island?
>These islands have a lot of disease but before the arrival of Capt. Cook, these islands were so kind to the Hawaiians that there apparently were none. Nor were there dietary deficiencies.

Why did they start killing each other then? They had it all!

dsi1

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Jan 5, 2021, 2:37:48 AM1/5/21
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I don't know the answer to that and you don't really care to find out. So that's how that goes. Just let me know if anything in my post has been untrue. As we all know, I don't give out misinformation.

Master Bruce

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Jan 5, 2021, 2:40:04 AM1/5/21
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 23:37:42 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
Your post might well be correct. I just wondered why the Hawaiians
insisted on ruining a good thing. I guess people always do that,
Hawaiian or not.
>

dsi1

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That seems as good an answer as any.

Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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That was very interesting! Thank you!

Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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Oh dear:(


Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 5, 2021, 6:23:49 AM1/5/21
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On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 1:34:03 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 4:53:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > news:132370cd-d4c6-418b...@googlegroups.com...
> > On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 1:49:14 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> > > On 2021 Jan 4, , Master Bruce wrote
> > > (in article<u9q5vft1mb0rnrchu...@4ax.com>):
> > > > Atheists and agnostics don't make weird sex rules, don't cut babies'
> > > > genitals and don't tell you that you can't eat caviar because a
> > > > sturgeon has no fins.
> > > Put five thousand of these enlightened souls together on a previously
> > > deserted island without outside interference, and the strangest rules will
> > > soon emerge, maybe even a new religion. Take it to the bank.
> > Hey that's us you're talking about! The Hawaiians lived in a paradise
> > without disease or health problems. There were lots of gods and war however.
> > That's the breaks.
> > ===
> >
> > Hi:) Do you not have Corvid on your island?
> These islands have a lot of disease but before the arrival of Capt. Cook, these islands were so kind to the Hawaiians that there apparently were none.

Apparently not:

1400: Hawai‘i relatively free of disease, although certain infectious diseases were present.

<http://papaolalokahi.org/images/pdf-files/hawaiian-health-time-line-and-events.pdf>

I would have liked to have found a better, more specific, source. But I just
didn't bother.

Cindy Hamilton

Hank Rogers

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Damn honkies ruined yoose rock!


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