OT - Group access FYI
Cheryl
dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the high price we pay for
Internet broadband. I never got any warning email from them, and had to
read about it in another group.
This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post here via
you Comcast membership.
--
\Cheryl
Nancy Young
"Cheryl" <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
nancy
sf
I thought pushing us into giganews *was* their way of dropping usenet!
When is it supposed to be official?
--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
Mae West
Christine Dabney
wrote:
>Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
>
>nancy
Or just change usenet providers. Many of us here use the German
server.
Christine
Blinky the Shark
<sigh> Here we go again.
Why? Just use a different news feed.
See my sig.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html
Blinky the Shark
Same old same old. As always, just use another news feed. See my sig.
Nancy Young
"Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> "Cheryl" <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider, Comcast is
>>> dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
>>> comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the high price we pay for
>>> Internet broadband. I never got any warning email from them, and had to
>>> read about it in another group.
>>>
>>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post here
>>> via you Comcast membership.
>>
>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>> ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
>
> <sigh> Here we go again.
>
> Why? Just use a different news feed.
<sigh> Because I don't think they're worth the money without
the newsgroup access and was thinking of switch cable
providers altogether and that is one thing that was holding
me back.
> See my sig.
Thank you, that's exactly what I was planning to do. I do
appreciate that you offer that information.
nancy
Nancy Young
"Christine Dabney" <arti...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:58:48 -0400, "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>>ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
> Or just change usenet providers. Many of us here use the German
> server.
Thank you.
nancy
jmcquown
Yeah, but $43/month for Comcast Internet is not worth the price for a few
Google searches and email. I'm checking into DSL + NIN, which is what I use
in TN. Even with the annual NIN fee (10 Euros) it's cheaper than Comcast
Internet. YMMV.
Jill
jmcquown
> "Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider,
>>>> Comcast is dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either,
>>>> but the forums on comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth
>>>> the high price we pay for Internet broadband. I never got any
>>>> warning email from them, and had to read about it in another group.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who
>>>> post here via you Comcast membership.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>>> ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
>>
>> <sigh> Here we go again.
>>
>> Why? Just use a different news feed.
>
> <sigh> Because I don't think they're worth the money without
> the newsgroup access and was thinking of switch cable
> providers altogether and that is one thing that was holding
> me back.
>
Jill
jmcquown
> <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider,
>> Comcast is dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but
>> the forums on comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the
>> high price we pay for Internet broadband. I never got any warning
>> email from them, and had to read about it in another group.
>>
>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post
>> here via you Comcast membership.
>
> I thought pushing us into giganews *was* their way of dropping usenet!
> When is it supposed to be official?
According to the Comcast web site, October 25th the newsgroups.comcast.net
server will cease to exist.
Jill
Ozark Baby
<jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
Look into getting and using a seperate news server. That is what I did
years ago when my ISP took away the Usenet access. EasyNews is a
really good one and has rollover bytes.
Ozark Baby
wrote:
>
>"Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider, Comcast is
>>>> dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
>>>> comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the high price we pay for
>>>> Internet broadband. I never got any warning email from them, and had to
>>>> read about it in another group.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post here
>>>> via you Comcast membership.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>>> ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
>>
>> <sigh> Here we go again.
>>
>> Why? Just use a different news feed.
>
><sigh> Because I don't think they're worth the money without
>the newsgroup access and was thinking of switch cable
>providers altogether and that is one thing that was holding
>me back.
Most ISPs are going to get rid of Usenet. You might be better off just
getting a seperate news server like EasyNews or something.
Joe Cilinceon
I got this from my method of viewing Usenet which is News Guys. This might
be a way to go for some of you.
According to recent announcements, RCN has discontinued access to their
newsgroup service.
For RCN customers (rcn.com, erols.com, starpower.net) that still require
Usenet service, we're offering a free month of newsgroup access with the
purchase of any Basic, Extra, Express, or Unlimited NewsGuy account...
http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm
I pay about $35 a year for way more bandwidth than I need since I only visit
Usenet once or twice a day.
--
Joe Cilinceon
Nancy Young
"Ozark Baby" <ozar...@xxxx.com> wrote
Definitely, I am sure whatever ISP I switched to will sooner or
later follow suit. One way or another, I'll need a news server,
I know that much. Just that Comcast having it was one thing that
kept me from switching to a whole different cable provider, not
just as my ISP.
nancy
Dave Smith
My ISP dropped Usenet more than a year ago.
Ozark Baby
wrote:
Oh I see. Well, good luck with your search.
Nancy Young
"Ozark Baby" <ozar...@xxxx.com> wrote
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:35:04 -0400, "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>Definitely, I am sure whatever ISP I switched to will sooner or
>>later follow suit. One way or another, I'll need a news server,
>>I know that much. Just that Comcast having it was one thing that
>>kept me from switching to a whole different cable provider, not
>>just as my ISP.
> Oh I see. Well, good luck with your search.
Thanks, I appreciate the advice, sorry if it sounded as if I didn't.
nancy
Default User
Another solution is get a block account. There you buy a block of
usenet bandwidth that doesn't expire at the end of the month, you use
it until it's gone. Fairly inexpensive, $.5 - $1 per gig depending on
provider and size of block. The advantage is that it, unlike NIN, will
allow access to binary groups like alt.binaries.food. As long as you're
not hitting the multimedia groups to download movies or something, a
few gig would last a long time.
Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
cybercat
"Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UOGdnbn_XJRJd03V...@comcast.com...
>
> "Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Cheryl" <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider, Comcast
>>>> is
>>>> dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
>>>> comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the high price we pay
>>>> for
>>>> Internet broadband. I never got any warning email from them, and had
>>>> to
>>>> read about it in another group.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post
>>>> here
>>>> via you Comcast membership.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>>> ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
>>
>> <sigh> Here we go again.
>>
>> Why? Just use a different news feed.
>
> <sigh> Because I don't think they're worth the money without
> the newsgroup access and was thinking of switch cable
> providers altogether and that is one thing that was holding
> me back.
Don't you just love a "know it all" who overestimates his own intelligence
and underestimates yours? There is no bigger dunce in the world.
Blinky the Shark
Which, less cryptically, is http://news.individual.net
I use it myself.
No binaries, though.
Blinky the Shark
For those who might be shopping, that 10-euro (about $15US) is the
*annual* fee.
Blinky the Shark
There's a meter on it? My goodness.
Ozark Baby
wrote:
>
>"Ozark Baby" <ozar...@xxxx.com> wrote
>
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:35:04 -0400, "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>
>>>Definitely, I am sure whatever ISP I switched to will sooner or
>>>later follow suit. One way or another, I'll need a news server,
>>>I know that much. Just that Comcast having it was one thing that
>>>kept me from switching to a whole different cable provider, not
>>>just as my ISP.
>
>> Oh I see. Well, good luck with your search.
>
>Thanks, I appreciate the advice, sorry if it sounded as if I didn't.
>
>nancy
That is ok. I understand your frustration. It is a hassle, but once
you do get a separate news server you will be happier in the end. At
least I was. ;-)
jmcquown
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:58:48 -0400, "Nancy Young"
>>> <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>>>> ISP for me, we'll see. Appreciate the heads up.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>
>>> Or just change usenet providers. Many of us here use the German
>>> server.
>>>
>>> Christine
>>
>>
>> Yeah, but $43/month for Comcast Internet is not worth the price for
>> a few Google searches and email. I'm checking into DSL + NIN, which
>> is what I use in TN. Even with the annual NIN fee (10 Euros) it's
>> cheaper than Comcast
>
> For those who might be shopping, that 10-euro (about $15US) is the
> *annual* fee.
Isn't that what I just said? :)
Default User
> Ozark Baby wrote:
> > Look into getting and using a seperate news server. That is what I
> > did years ago when my ISP took away the Usenet access. EasyNews is a
> > really good one and has rollover bytes.
>
> There's a meter on it? My goodness.
Most full news service do that. NIN can afford a flat rate because it's
text only. You could read news 24/7 and not make much of dent in
bandwidth. A service with binary access is a lot different. An
hour-long TV show pulled from a multimeda group would be around 300-400
meg.
It's one reason why the ISPs didn't put up much of a fight, a fight
they probably could have won. It's an excuse to get rid of services
that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of customers.
Blinky the Shark
Jebus! I missed "annual" completely in your post.
Sheldon
> "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
>
> > For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider, Comcast is
> > dropping Usenet access. �I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
> > comcast.net confirm it. �Now they aren't worth the high price we pay for
> > Internet broadband. �I never got any warning email from them, and had to
> > read about it in another group.
>
> > This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for
> > those of you who post here via you Comcast
> > membership.
>
> It could well mean a change of
> ISP for me, we'll see.
Google is free.
jmcquown
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>> Even with the annual NIN fee (10
>>>> Euros) it's cheaper than Comcast
>>>
>>> For those who might be shopping, that 10-euro (about $15US) is the
>>> *annual* fee.
>>
>> Isn't that what I just said? :)
>
> Jebus! I missed "annual" completely in your post.
LOL I thought so. I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere and AT&T doesn't offer
DSL on this friggin island. Neither does the local phone service except for
prices way higher than Comcast. Wireless? Heh. Just try.
Jill
jmcquown
Nothing is free. But your point is taken. And discarded just as quickly :)
Jill
Nancy Young
"Sheldon" <PENM...@aol.com> wrote
>"Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>> ISP for me, we'll see.
>Google is free.
It might be free, but it's not for me.
nancy
jmcquown
It also doesn't eliminate Comcast as the ISP.
Jill
Gregory Morrow
Nancy Young wrote:
FYI I found this on alt.online-service.comcast today
Posted by ComcastCares at 4:04CDT. today:
"The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been
discontinued effective 9/17/08. Existing customers will continue to be
able to access the service until 10/25/08
This decision is in alignment with other ISP's that have recently
terminated their Newsgroups service due to the declining popularity of
Newsgroups as customers chose other methods, such as RSS feeds and web
browsing to access information.
While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
child pornography..."
</>
Nancy Young
"Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
> child pornography..."
Idiots if that's what they really think. I am assuming they just
want to drop usenet.
nancy
Gregory Morrow
Nancy Young wrote:
Yup, with all the lame excuses we see for everything every day this is about
the absolute *lamest*...they really *do* assume that we are that dumb.
I was seriously considering going with Comcast for internet (I've got them
for phone and cable teevee) but I guess I'll stay with Earthlink...
--
Best
Greg
Cheryl
as long as I have the service. I don't have a need for FIOS. From there
I'll find a reliable news provider.
Sheldon
Usenet requires a tremendous amount of server space that ISPs can put
to more economically beneficial use, plus Google makes the service
redundant... that's why AOL dropped Usenet and other services. I have
a choice to use my provider (Verizon DSL - of course for that I need
to pay) to access the net, which I sometimes do, but I still prefer
AOL for its many other services. I have no problem with Google,
granted it took a little getting used to, but once I got the hang of
which of its features I prefer it became as second nature as when I
used AOL for usenet. At first I did try a couple of recommended ways
to access usenet that I had to pay for but they sucked as badly as
using IE. And Google is always making neat upgrades, I only wish they
would announce first, instead they are foisted on users, who need to
find out the details later. Now that I've been using Google for a
while I've grown to like it, I've no complaints.
James Silverton
For many years, I was just too far away for DSL so I went to Comcast and
then to Verizon FIOS
Good luck!
.
--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
George
They simply caved in to his majesty andrew cumo's grandstanding:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20080721/1545501748.shtml
The first one to cave in was aol which was interesting because they
haven't had NNTP access for years. I guess maybe they though they would
someone become relevant if they agreed with his majesty.
Kenneth
<x...@ddds.fi> wrote:
>
>"The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been
>discontinued effective 9/17/08. Existing customers will continue to be
>able to access the service until 10/25/08
>
>This decision is in alignment with other ISP's that have recently
>terminated their Newsgroups service due to the declining popularity of
>Newsgroups as customers chose other methods, such as RSS feeds and web
>browsing to access information.
>
>While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
>be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
>child pornography..."
>
></>
>
Howdy,
I just spoke to folks at Comcast.
According to them, there has been no such announcement.
All the best,
--
Kenneth
If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
George
> "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
>>
>>> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
>>> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>>> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
>>> child pornography..."
>> Idiots if that's what they really think. �I am assuming they just
>> want to drop usenet.
>>
>> nancy
>
> Usenet requires a tremendous amount of server space that ISPs can put
> to more economically beneficial use,
Comcast and similar ISPs haven't maintained peer servers for a really
long time. Comcast uses Giganews. I believe Timw Warner used Teranews.
When you are a Comcast subscriber you connect directly to Giganews.
Comcast only handles the authentication.
Kenneth
Hi Greg,
I cannot predict the future, but after searching the Comcast
site for this information without success, I called Comcast.
They told me that Giganews is, and will continue to be, part
of the package they offer.
I am, by the way, no great fan of Comcast, but this Giganews
thing does seem to be nothing more than a rumor.
Nancy Young
"Kenneth" <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:21:42 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> <x...@ddds.fi> wrote:
>>Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> "Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
>>>
>>> > While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found
>>> > to
>>> > be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>>> > the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access
>>> > to
>>> > child pornography..."
>>>
>>> Idiots if that's what they really think. I am assuming they just
>>> want to drop usenet.
>>
>>
>>Yup, with all the lame excuses we see for everything every day this is
>>about
>>the absolute *lamest*...they really *do* assume that we are that dumb.
>>
>>I was seriously considering going with Comcast for internet (I've got them
>>for phone and cable teevee) but I guess I'll stay with Earthlink...
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> I cannot predict the future, but after searching the Comcast
> site for this information without success, I called Comcast.
>
> They told me that Giganews is, and will continue to be, part
> of the package they offer.
Oh, whoever you spoke to hasn't gotten the memo.
>
> I am, by the way, no great fan of Comcast, but this Giganews
> thing does seem to be nothing more than a rumor.
check here:
http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/
nancy
George
Not surprising they didn't know. Comcast seems to use a lot of contract
call centers who don't really know what is going on. I just logged into
the Comcast support forum and this is posted in the Usenet section in
the thread:
The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been
discontinued effective 9/17/08
by:
"Administrator ComcastCares"
"The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been
discontinued effective 9/17/08. Existing customers will continue to be
able to access the service until 10/25/08
This decision is in alignment with other ISP’s that have recently
terminated their Newsgroups service due to the declining popularity of
Newsgroups as customers chose other methods, such as RSS feeds and web
browsing to access information.
While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
child pornography.
09-16-2008 02:04 PM"
Cheryl
news:garumq$pvu$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> Kenneth wrote:
>>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I just spoke to folks at Comcast.
>>
>> According to them, there has been no such announcement.
>>
>> All the best,
>
> Not surprising they didn't know. Comcast seems to use a lot of contract
> call centers who don't really know what is going on. I just logged into
> the Comcast support forum and this is posted in the Usenet section in the
> thread:
>
> The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been discontinued
> effective 9/17/08
>
> by:
>
> "Administrator ComcastCares"
>
>
> "The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been discontinued
> effective 9/17/08. Existing customers will continue to be able to access
> the service until 10/25/08
>
Yes. The people on the phone never have an idea about what's really going
on.
Cheryl
jmcquown
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:06:34 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> <x...@ddds.fi> wrote:
>
>>
>> "The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been
>> discontinued effective 9/17/08. Existing customers will continue to
>> be able to access the service until 10/25/08
>>
>
>
> According to them, there has been no such announcement.
>
That's because they didn't "announce" it, not to their customers and not to
their contracted tech support people. It's on their web site (comcast.net).
Log into your Comcast account and then click "Set up Comcast Newsgroups".
When you click that link you get the message they're discontinuing access
for existing newsgroup users effective 10/25/2008.
I contacted their tech support people via the web Contact Us link. The
reply via email was: "This is Erwin and I have read your concern with regard
to the discontinuation of the newsgroups service. Customers will continue
to be able to access newsgroups by signing up directly with a new third
party provider. Newsgroups will still be available to Comcast customers but
the Comcast Newsgroups Service, powered by Giganews service will no longer
be part of the Comcast High Speed Internet service."
Jill
Gregory Morrow
Kenneth wrote:
I'd bet yer 401K that those minimum - wage phone reps don't even have a clue
what Usenet *is*...
When calling Comcast about *anything* I always make a point of calling at
least 3 - 4 times...with that "redundancy" you can usually eventually parse
through their bee - ess...
--
Best
Greg
Janet Wilder
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:58:48 -0400, "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Thank you very much, Cheryl. It could well mean a change of
>>
>> nancy
>
> Or just change usenet providers. Many of us here use the German
> server.
>
> Christine
I use Astraweb. If you don't do binaries, it's like $10 for life. I use
to use the German server until they required a credit card. The Astraweb
plan I use is the $10 25GB. I've had it for 3+ years and am still to eat
into the first GB. Good email-based support, too.
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life
Nancy Young
"Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
> When calling Comcast about *anything* I always make a point of calling at
> least 3 - 4 times...with that "redundancy" you can usually eventually
> parse
> through their bee - ess...
One time I was calling about this weird problem, kept calling
back hoping to get someone else ... and kept getting the same
person! Go figure.
Of course, they couldn't have known over the phone that the
source of my trouble was that a big truck had gone down my
street and ripped the cable right off my house.
nancy
Janet Wilder
Jill, there are wireless companies out there that use radio waves off of
communications towers.
I am out in "the country". No DSL (fastest speed on a land line is
-they say- 28.8) no cable either. I have used two companies that work
off the towers. I'm quite pleased with the one I now have. It's actually
faster than DSL. Costs me about $50 per month.
Check the yellow pages under ISP and see what you come up with.
TFM®
"George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote
> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of the
> child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to child
> pornography.
> 09-16-2008 02:04 PM"
What a load of horse shit!
It's kind of like outlawing guns to stop crime. I can still buy guns.
They'll be illegal and unregistered, but just as effective.
You want bestiality? I know where it is. You want Lolita? I can hook you
up with that too. You want usenet access? It's cheap enough that you don't
even notice it with binaries included. (Less than 3 bucks a month for 10
concurrent users - 5 gigs a month, unused gigs rollover to the next month.
We have 4 users on this account now and after my 3rd payment I have 14.5
gigs available.) I look at *every* picture on alt.binaries.food. I know 2
others using the account do too.
It's www.usenetmonster.com BTW.
The funniest part of this entire thread is the fact that sHELDON still uses
and prefers AOL.
-sw
TFM®
dsi1
> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider, Comcast is
> dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
> comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the high price we pay for
> Internet broadband. I never got any warning email from them, and had to
> read about it in another group.
>
> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post here
> via you Comcast membership.
>
Welcome to the party, pal! :-)
TFM®
"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6jde5iF...@mid.individual.net...
Talk to my lovely wife about sharing our usenetmonster account. Nothing
illegal about it. We're 6 users short of being full up, we have way more
access than we can ever use. (we'll be in the terabyte range eventually)
I doubt you get music and movies from usenet. If so, please disregard this
offer. <G>
TFM®
jmcquown
> jmcquown wrote:
>> LOL I thought so. I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere and AT&T
>> doesn't offer DSL on this friggin island. Neither does the local
>> phone service except for prices way higher than Comcast. Wireless? Heh.
>> Just try. Jill
>
> Jill, there are wireless companies out there that use radio waves off
> of communications towers.
>
> I am out in "the country". No DSL (fastest speed on a land line is
> -they say- 28.8) no cable either. I have used two companies that work
> off the towers. I'm quite pleased with the one I now have. It's
> actually faster than DSL. Costs me about $50 per month.
>
NIN it comes out to about $50 a month so there wouldn't be much point in
paying $50/month to go wireless in an area I already know sucks for wireless
service. Cell phone service here is iffy, too.
Jill
Cheryl
news:2MednXzEkYlZFEzV...@hawaiiantel.net...
Kenneth
Hello again,
Indeed, you are correct...
Thanks for the link,
dsi1
I found out that Time-Warner was cutting NGs by opening up T-burd and
finding nuthing. Not even a kiss goodbye. I'm using the hawaiiantel NG
server at work to post this but we all know they're gonna pull the plug
any day now and we could get cut off at any ti . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . .
jmcquown
Disregard because I *don't* d/l music or movies? Nope, I don't get music
(other than the occasional YouTube video via the web) and definitely not
movies. But thanks for the um... non-offer?
Jill
George
You reminded me of a good story. My buddy said he was eating dinner with
his family and heard a commotion outside with lots of car horns being
blown. He noticed that cars were crawling and people were getting upset
because there was a wire dangling across the street almost touching the
car roofs. He could see that the attach point for his drop had broken
(the cable went from his house and across the street where it attached
to a carrier wire and then down the street to the tap) and there was
enough slack to lower the cable.
He called Comcast and explained the situation. It was Saturday evening
and they asked if Tuesday afternoon would be OK. He said it would likely
cost them more money if the siding got pulled off the house or someone
got hurt and he asked if they could dispatch someone from the local
office which was only 3 miles away. The call center person said that
Tuesday was the best they could do.
Someone called 911 and the police and fire trucks responded. A little
while later someone showed up from the office which was just down the
road. They fixed the cable. My buddy called the mayor's office on
Monday morning to complain because he knew the contract was up for
renewal. Not long after the manager of the local office called him to
explain that they had 24 hour service for emergencies but the call
center didn't know what to do so he was calling to apologize.
TFM®
"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6jdivhF...@mid.individual.net...
>> TFM®
>
>
> Disregard because I *don't* d/l music or movies? Nope, I don't get music
> (other than the occasional YouTube video via the web) and definitely not
> movies. But thanks for the um... non-offer?
>
> Jill
Are you from Damascus? Email Kili. You can have unlimited access to *all*
newsgroups...free!
TFM®
Kenneth
Howdy,
I will offer this experience:
We live in rural New Hampshire.
A delivery truck of some sort came onto our property, and
the driver pointed to the very slack Comcast cable that,
crossed our street. He said, "That's awfully low... You
might want to call the owner."
I did, and within a few hours a fellow from Comcast was
knocking on my door.
He and I looked at the cable, and measuring nothing, he said
simply "It's fine."
The following morning I heard an incredible crash, and ran
down to the street.
A power pole that was just on our side of the street
boundary was snapped about 10 feet above the ground, and the
truck that hit the cable was still in the street with its
flashers on.
It took about 12 hours, and perhaps ten workers to get us up
and running...
Cheryl
news:js73d49du2pjqr8mu...@4ax.com...
<snip story>
> It took about 12 hours, and perhaps ten workers to get us up
> and running...
>
Too funny. Several years ago my Comcast kept getting shut off for one
excuse after another. Sometimes stupidity and they'd disconnected me at the
pole and I had to wait days for them to plug me back in. I switched my TV
provider to DirecTV after Comcast went digital and the "guy" who came out to
help with my digital TV told me my whole house had to be rewired for a large
fee. DirecTV did it for free to get me working.
There were no other broadband providers for Internet here within reach, so I
was stuck with Comcast. Trying to change to Verizon a few years ago they
kept setting up an appointment for me but every time the day to switch came
they said I was too far from the CO. Now I get offers from them all the
time so it is *time*. I hope it works this time.
Nancy Young
"George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> Of course, they couldn't have known over the phone that the
>> source of my trouble was that a big truck had gone down my
>> street and ripped the cable right off my house.
> You reminded me of a good story. My buddy said he was eating dinner with
> his family and heard a commotion outside with lots of car horns being
> blown. He noticed that cars were crawling and people were getting upset
> because there was a wire dangling across the street almost touching the
> car roofs. He could see that the attach point for his drop had broken
> (the cable went from his house and across the street where it attached
> to a carrier wire and then down the street to the tap) and there was
> enough slack to lower the cable.
>
> He called Comcast and explained the situation. It was Saturday evening
> and they asked if Tuesday afternoon would be OK. He said it would likely
> cost them more money if the siding got pulled off the house or someone
> got hurt and he asked if they could dispatch someone from the local
> office which was only 3 miles away. The call center person said that
> Tuesday was the best they could do.
Come on!!
> Someone called 911 and the police and fire trucks responded. A little
> while later someone showed up from the office which was just down the
> road. They fixed the cable. My buddy called the mayor's office on
> Monday morning to complain because he knew the contract was up for
> renewal. Not long after the manager of the local office called him to
> explain that they had 24 hour service for emergencies but the call
> center didn't know what to do so he was calling to apologize.
Geez, at least my cable wasn't stopping traffic, I had to wait until
Tuesday. I can understand that. But the cable is holding up traffic,
get over here now! Obviously that was the right thing to do, call
the police.
When I called, I didn't know what was wrong. If cable or internet
goes down, you don't look to see if your cable is missing. Once
I realized that was it, I actually thought someone stole my wire.
(laugh) I mean, it was just gone! Who steals people's cable wire??
nancy
Nancy Young
"Kenneth" <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote
> We live in rural New Hampshire.
Ooo, I love NH.
> A delivery truck of some sort came onto our property, and
> the driver pointed to the very slack Comcast cable that,
> crossed our street. He said, "That's awfully low... You
> might want to call the owner."
>
> I did, and within a few hours a fellow from Comcast was
> knocking on my door.
>
> He and I looked at the cable, and measuring nothing, he said
> simply "It's fine."
(sigh)
> The following morning I heard an incredible crash, and ran
> down to the street.
>
> A power pole that was just on our side of the street
> boundary was snapped about 10 feet above the ground, and the
> truck that hit the cable was still in the street with its
> flashers on.
That's too funny, that must have been some strong cable!
Or someone else had hit the pole and weakened it and that's
why the cable was hanging so low.
Funny.
nancy
Paco
"Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote in message
news:We6dnWXjdc6s8kzV...@earthlink.com...
>
> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
> child pornography..."
>
> </>
>
>
There's pornography on the internet?
-sw
TFM®
"Michael "Dog3"" <uh...@default.web> wrote in message
news:Xns9B1CC8E375C...@69.16.185.250...
> TFM® <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com>
> news:48d19fd7$0$17604$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> Are you from Damascus? Email Kili. You can have unlimited access to
>> *all* newsgroups...free!
>
> Which plan do you have with them? The basic $2.95/mo plan or the
> $13.95/mo
> plan? I looked at it a few months ago when Charter's news access really
> sucked. So far it's been okay but I've been looking around again.
The $2.95 plan is virtually unlimited for us. With 4 of us using it we've
downloaded a half a gig in 2 months.
TFM®
TFM®
"Paco" <bakedinalaska@y'all.com> wrote in message
news:gasbcr$qhu$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
Who knew? Can we get some links?
-sw
sf
wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:36:07 -0400, "Cheryl"
>> <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider,
>>> Comcast is dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but
>>> the forums on comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the
>>> high price we pay for Internet broadband. I never got any warning
>>> email from them, and had to read about it in another group.
>>>
>>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post
>>> here via you Comcast membership.
>>
>> I thought pushing us into giganews *was* their way of dropping usenet!
>> When is it supposed to be official?
>
>
>According to the Comcast web site, October 25th the newsgroups.comcast.net
>server will cease to exist.
>
I just got off live chat with earthlink... they still provide usenet.
Their base price is low and they charge more for usenet which makes it
higher than comcast. Damn. I guess I should be happy I can sign up
for a provider that I can get to anywhere, but I'm not.
--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
Mae West
sf
wrote:
> It's an excuse to get rid of services
>that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
:P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
binaries, no matter how little I use them.
sf
<joe...@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm
>
>I pay about $35 a year for way more bandwidth than I need since I only visit
>Usenet once or twice a day.
You're a lightweight. :)
Does it provide binaries like afb?
Blinky the Shark
>
> "Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
>
>> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
>> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
>> child pornography..."
>
> Idiots if that's what they really think. I am assuming they just
> want to drop usenet.
I think liars, rather than idiots.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html
Nancy Young
"Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
>>
>>> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
>>> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>>> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
>>> child pornography..."
>>
>> Idiots if that's what they really think. I am assuming they just
>> want to drop usenet.
>
> I think liars, rather than idiots.
I agree.
nancy
Gregory Morrow
Kenneth wrote:
Newsguy is offering a free month of service to Comcast customers.
http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm
--
Best
Greg
sf
wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:36:07 -0400, "Cheryl"
>> <jlhs...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider,
>>> Comcast is dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but
>>> the forums on comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the
>>> high price we pay for Internet broadband. I never got any warning
>>> email from them, and had to read about it in another group.
>>>
>>> This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post
>>> here via you Comcast membership.
>>
>> I thought pushing us into giganews *was* their way of dropping usenet!
>> When is it supposed to be official?
>
>
>According to the Comcast web site, October 25th the newsgroups.comcast.net
>server will cease to exist.
>
Dang, you made me call Earthlink to find out what their service costs.
They charge extra for usenet and only give 5.0 mbps speed for $41.95.
I don't blame EL, I blame comcast. After all they rent comcast lines.
Paco
"TFM®" <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:48d1b959$0$17611$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com...
Sheldon has them all. Where is Sheldon when you need him? Wait, we're
talking about porn here, never mind, I know where Sheldon is...
-sw
hahabogus
_t_kzVnZ2dn...@comcast.com:
> It might be free, but it's not for me.
poetry...you poet you.
--
The beet goes on -Alan
Blinky the Shark
> "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote in news:BpGdnaATj6
> _t_kzVnZ2dn...@comcast.com:
>
>> It might be free, but it's not for me.
>
> poetry...you poet you.
So they might be free
But they wouldn't be for me
News feeds in autumn
--
Blinky T. "haiku of the day" Shark
cybercat
"Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:FbWdnRR27prBW0zV...@comcast.com...
You're all optimists.
TFM®
"Paco" <bakedinalaska@y'all.com> wrote in message
news:gaslnt$4a3$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
He's back in that closet again and the cat is smearing its shitty ass all
over his kitchen counter. <sigh>
-se
Default User
> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It's an excuse to get rid of services
> > that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>
>
> :P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
blake murphy
> "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Y6ydnb1bFcwQ7EzV...@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi> wrote
>>
>>> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
>>> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>>> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
>>> child pornography..."
>>
>> Idiots if that's what they really think. I am assuming they just
>> want to drop usenet.
>>
> I'll probably be sorry, but I ordered Verizon DSL today. $19.99 a month for
> as long as I have the service. I don't have a need for FIOS. From there
> I'll find a reliable news provider.
i have verizon dsl, and find it o.k. be aware, though, that they recently
dropped all the alt.* groups and some other hierarchies from their usenet
server.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
>
> "The Comcast Newsgroups service, powered by Giganews has been
> discontinued effective 9/17/08. Existing customers will continue to be
> able to access the service until 10/25/08
>
> This decision is in alignment with other ISP’s that have recently
> terminated their Newsgroups service due to the declining popularity of
> Newsgroups as customers chose other methods, such as RSS feeds and web
> browsing to access information.
>
> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
> child pornography.
> 09-16-2008 02:04 PM"
won't somebody *not* think of the children?!?
your pal,
humbert
blake murphy
> "Gregory Morrow" <x...@ddds.fi>
> news:We6dnWXjdc6s8kzV...@earthlink.com: in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> While the majority of Newsgroups are safe, newsgroups have been found to
>> be a source of child pornography on the internet. This is just one of
>> the child protection measures Comcast has taken to help reduce access to
>> child pornography..."
>
> ROFLMFAO... Oh gee... and the Internet is sooooooo... safe. How frigging
> absurd. Why don't they just admit that carrying NNTP servers is an
> expensive proposition that they no longer want deal with but they still
> want to gouge the consumer, for the same price they've charged, without the
> overhead?
>
> Michael
how expensive is it really? if i'm not mistaken, you can get there in some
kinda hokey way with a web browser (or god forbid, webtv).
face y'all, y'all just dinosaurs who haven't kept up. get with the
program!
your punch-card pal,
blake
blake murphy
*cats*, tfm. cats, plural.
of course, he'd be outnumbered in terms of brainpower by one cat, but we
strive for accuracy here.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
> "Paco" <bakedinalaska@y'all.com> news:gasbcr$qhu$1
> @registered.motzarella.org: in rec.food.cooking
> What's pornography?
>
> Michael
i'm not sure, but i know it when i see it.
your pal,
potter
Cheryl
news:1p66hwd9idwnd.5...@40tude.net...
>> I'll probably be sorry, but I ordered Verizon DSL today. $19.99 a month
>> for
>> as long as I have the service. I don't have a need for FIOS. From there
>> I'll find a reliable news provider.
>
> i have verizon dsl, and find it o.k. be aware, though, that they recently
> dropped all the alt.* groups and some other hierarchies from their usenet
> server.
>
Thanks for the review. I just found out that I'm still not able to get
Verizon DSL. I wish they'd quit sending me offers in the mail then! ;-)
sf
wrote:
>sf wrote:
>
>> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It's an excuse to get rid of services
>> > that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>>
>>
>> :P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
>> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
>
>See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
>
>
I didn't see it. Got it tonight.
Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
sf
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The Astraweb
>plan I use is the $10 25GB. I've had it for 3+ years and am still to eat
>into the first GB. Good email-based support, too.
Good to hear about the support and GBs, but I'd devour my initial GB
in the first month and be looking for more.
sf
<no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>Why? Just use a different news feed.
Why? It's not that impersonal for those who are used to getting ng's
from their original ISP.
Christine Dabney
>On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:22:47 -0700, Blinky the Shark
><no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Why? Just use a different news feed.
>
>Why? It's not that impersonal for those who are used to getting ng's
>from their original ISP.
Why not? It's the same newsgroup(s). Just a different provider of
them.
Christine
jmcquown
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User"
>>> <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's an excuse to get rid of services
>>>> that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>>>
>>>
>>>> P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
>>> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
>>
>> See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
>>
>>
> I didn't see it. Got it tonight.
>
> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
I agree. If they're dropping Usenet and will no longer have to maintain
those servers then why aren't they going to lower our monthly bill
accordingly? I emailed Comcast to complain about it and the reply was "you
can still access newsgroups if you use a third party news provider". No
shit, Sherlock. That wasn't my point!
Jill
Nancy Young
"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote
>>> sf wrote:
>> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
>> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
>> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
I couldn't agree more.
> I agree. If they're dropping Usenet and will no longer have to maintain
> those servers then why aren't they going to lower our monthly bill
> accordingly? I emailed Comcast to complain about it and the reply was
> "you can still access newsgroups if you use a third party news provider".
> No shit, Sherlock. That wasn't my point!
I noticed they're rolling out some new, improved email. No doubt
they plan on using that as some perceived added value to
support their cost. Aside from me getting email people send me,
and blocking as much spam as they can, they can't put any
bells and whistles on it that I give a hoot about.
nancy
blake murphy
the whole business of what areas are wired for d.s.l. and which are not
seems completely irrational. it just became available to me in silver
spring (an urban 'suburb' of d.c.) a few years ago, and my girlfriend, who
lives in d.c. proper, just got it just a year ago. if you live in an
apartment, it may even come down to how your building is wired. also they
don't seem to know if it can be done until they actually try. it's
baffling.
your pal,
blake
Kenneth
>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
Howdy,
I would offer a different slant on this...
Comcast and I had an agreement:
They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
certain amount for them.
Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
Add to that the fact that they are a local monopoly, and
well... well... Where are my pills...?
All the best,
--
Kenneth
If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
enigma
> how expensive is it really? if i'm not mistaken, you can
> get there in some kinda hokey way with a web browser (or
> god forbid, webtv).
running an NNTP server? it's VERY expensive, especially if you
want to have any kind of retention.
at one point, at one ISP i was working for, we had to put a
12 hour retention on binaries groups & 24 hours on text groups
while waiting for new servers to arrive (we had had 3 NNTP
servers, but wouldn't you know two had to fail at the same
time). you should have heard the customers howl! & that was in
1995. servers with multi-gig drives were really damn expensive
then.
while storage is cheaper now, there really is more Usenet
use, & people do expect posts to be around for much longer
than a week or even a month. it doesn't take long to fill 150
gigs.
and no, you can't get into or use a real NNTP server with a
web browser.
> face y'all, y'all just dinosaurs who haven't kept up. get
> with the program!
no thanks. i detest web based forums & <gag> google groups.
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.
enigma
news:c7g7d49fi0qs6kc91...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the
>>exorbitant amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be
>>part of their package.
>
> Howdy,
>
> I would offer a different slant on this...
>
> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>
> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
> certain amount for them.
>
> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
class action breech of contract?
just don't ask Cuomo to be your lawyer ;)
Default User
> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need
> > it.
> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it. For
most people who need just some binary access, a block account will be
much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.