Are there any people here that do Meatless Mondays?

[Somebody]

I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
Monday? If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"

If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for immediately
being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file" If you do nothing
towards being vegetarian that is your decision, but at least don't torture
baby cows. In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.

[sf]

Baby cows can live a full life until adulthood where I live. Sure you
can find it if you look, but veal and duck and in short supply. The
price of duck breask is out of the ball park... something like $18 lb
(maybe more, but definitely not less).

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

[jmcquown]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 01:23:23 -0400, "Somebody"
> <tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
>> Monday (for me)

And I'm nomt so I don't pick a fight.

>> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for
>> immediately
>> being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file" If you do nothing
>> towards being vegetarian that is your decisio

Yep, and you'll go in my killfile for telling me what to eat. (not you, sf)

Jill

[George M. Middius]

Somebody wrote:

> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for immediately
> being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file" If you do nothing
> towards being vegetarian that is your decision, but at least don't torture
> baby cows. In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.

<snicker>

Does anybody still doubt this person is a troll?

[Somebody]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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when did I tell you what to eat? You can eat anything you want... There's
been too much kill (filing) lately. Can't we all just get along?

[Somebody]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>

> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:8f30u7h2ef2lcg28u...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 01:23:23 -0400, "Somebody"
>> <tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
>>> Monday (for me)
>
> And I'm nomt so I don't pick a fight.

what's "nomt"? Is that a race, religion, sex-- some sort of alien race that
uses Usenet? You don't pick a fight, but kill other users? That seems
contradictory.

The subject line is: Are there any people here that do Meatless Mondays?
There is nothing about are there any "nomts" that frequent this newsgroup.
It wasn't directed to you, and I feel like you butted in somewhere you had
no business butting in. Unless your business is butting in. In which case
I'm going to file a complaint with the BBB.

[spamtrap1888]

On Jun 18, 10:23 pm, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
> Monday?  If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"

baby Jesus said to not eat meat on Friday, not Monday.

Eggplant parmigiana. Horiatiki salad. Omelets. Crepes. Lasagna. Pizza.
Beet soup, sourdough soup, mushroom soup, dill pickle soup, potato
soup, cream of broccoli soup.

(in restaurants: Vegetarian Indian food.)

> but at least don't torture
> baby cows.  In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.

Cows have immortal souls?

[merryb]

Dill pickle soup? That's a new one!

[Somebody]

"spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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---

yes, we all do. From the aardvark to the zebra. We are all God's
creatures.

I will never understand the Catholic logic of no meat on Friday, but fish is
ok. Fish are not plants.

What is a horiatiki salad? I love eggplant parm. I'm going to try and make
zucchini parm, using Stubby from my garden.

[George M. Middius]

Somebody wrote:

> I will never understand the Catholic logic

Troll alert!

[zxcvbob]

I usually have a big hamburger on Thursdays when I go out with the guys
from work for lunch, but sometimes that's the only meat I have all week.

I eat lots of cheese and lots of beans -- especially canned refried
beans smeared on a tortilla. And a fair amount of raw vegetables, like
broccoli.

Meat is expensive, and too much of it eats into my alcohol budget :-)

-Bob

[spamtrap1888]

It's basically potato soup with chopped dill pickles added. Use the
brine cured ones.

[sf]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:09:00 -0400, "Somebody"
<tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> when did I tell you what to eat? You can eat anything you want... There's
> been too much kill (filing) lately. Can't we all just get along?
>

The reason why you don't see much veal in general and milk fed veal in
particular on the West coast is because public awareness was raised
over 30 years ago about how they were farmed and we did something
about it; so it's not an issue out here anymore.

[sf]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
<spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cows have immortal souls?

Maybe if you're Hindu.

[sf]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:26:26 -0400, "Somebody"
<tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love eggplant parm. I'm going to try and make
> zucchini parm, using Stubby from my garden.

Remember to take pictures and send Stubby out with a bang. :)

[Somebody]

"zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Bob. I will add your input to the database.

What kind of alcohol do you buy?

Yeah, meat is expensive.

[Somebody]

"spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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post the recipe!

[Somebody]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message

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My dad still orders it. He had it Fathers Day. I ignored it, but geez...
It's really cruel.

[Somebody]

"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message

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> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:26:26 -0400, "Somebody"
> <tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love eggplant parm. I'm going to try and make
>> zucchini parm, using Stubby from my garden.
>
> Remember to take pictures and send Stubby out with a bang. :)

I did take pictures of Stubby! Sent to my relatives. I get excited when
things I plant actually grow and aren't worm infested. Some of the zukes
are. :(

I'm trying to make zucchini parmesan. Work in progress. Stubby is in the
fridge and about 2/3 gone.

Is photobucket still around?

[sf]

Once foie gras is outlawed, he'll still be able to order it from
somewhere too. This *is* still America (land of the free), I hope.

[sf]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:49:50 -0400, "Somebody"
<tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is photobucket still around?

Yes, Picasa, Flickr and TinyPic are too. I prefer TinyPic for posting
single pictures on the internet. That way you don't have to make an
album public just so people can see a picture, although they're good
for step by step recipes - pictures with captions.
https://picasaweb.google.com/112725812463643064812/BeanGreensAndSausageSoup22410#5497302235104681458

[zxcvbob]

What database?

> What kind of alcohol do you buy?
> Yeah, meat is expensive.
>

Usually premium bottled beers; IPA's mostly. I'm getting too old to
drink cheap beer ;-)

Also Seagram's gin for making G&T's, but last night the liquor store had
McAdam's Canadian whisky on sale *really* cheap so I got a big jug of
that. It's not good enough for sipping but it will do just fine for
whiskey sours. (Summer is the wrong time of year to sip Wild Turkey anyway)

Bob

[George]

Talk about a small minded person. You sound just like the anti religion
zealots who apparently have such a weak belief system that they can't
tolerate even the idea of a religious themed display of any sort.

[jmcquown]

"zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Somebody wrote:
>> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless

(piggybacking, sorry bob!)

Congratuations! As if anyone cares that you're a vegetarian.

One of the things my father loved for me to cook for him was veal piccata.
Served with (guess what?) fetuccini alfredo and steamed broccoli.

> I usually have a big hamburger on Thursdays when I go out with the guys
> from work for lunch, but sometimes that's the only meat I have all week.
>

I don't have to have meat every day, but I like meat. I had a nice burger
for dinner last night. It was really tasty.

What I don't understand is why there are so many "vegetarian" products that
imitate meat.

I don't care for raw veggies but I eat plenty of cooked vegetables.
Broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, cabbage, lima beans, artichokes,
spinach, collards and other greens.

> Meat is expensive, and too much of it eats into my alcohol budget :-)
>
> -Bob

I like the way you think, Bob!

Jill

[Brooklyn1]

"jmcquown" wrote:
>
>What I don't understand is why there are so many "vegetarian" products that
>imitate meat.

Yeah, that is kinda hypocritical... seems pretty low IQ too that if
someone is into vegetarianism that they'd even want to eat foods that
look and taste like meat... they most be very stupid to be so easily
fooled, and total assholes to want to be fooled. Were I a vegetarian
(I'm not) the last thing I'd want is food that resembles meat. If I
was to tire of subsisting on legumes I'd want to find a recipe that
turns lima beans into chocolate ice cream.
http://vegweb.com/search/vegweb/ice%20cream

[Gary]

Somebody wrote:
>
> Can't we all just get along?

Rodney? I thought you died the other day. ??? ;)

[Tom Biasi]

On 6/19/2012 1:23 AM, Somebody wrote:
> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless

> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
> Monday? If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"
>
> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for immediately
> being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file" If you do nothing
> towards being vegetarian that is your decision, but at least don't torture
> baby cows. In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.
>
>

This is a serious question. Not meant to be antagonistic.
We have learned to raise animals for food. Why do they have to be a
certain age before we can eat them?

Tom

[Kalmia]

On Jun 19, 1:23 am, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
> Monday?  If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"
>
> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for immediately
> being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file"  If you do nothing
> towards being vegetarian that is your decision, but at least don't torture
> baby cows.  In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.

How about a meatless Tuesday? Mushroom burgers tonight.

I try to have no more than one or two meat nights per week. Fish,
seafood, or tofu type dishes often the rest of the time. I admit to
chicken and turkey.

Does it count that I took the veal pledge years ago and have stuck
by it?

[zxcvbob]

He was reincarnated as a calf. 8^)

-Bob

[Gary]

zxcvbob wrote:
>
> Meat is expensive, and too much of it eats into my alcohol budget :-)

And finally, someone tells it like it is! ;)

[Gary]

Somebody wrote:
>
> It's basically potato soup with chopped dill pickles added. Use the
> brine cured ones.

I tried a "to die for" simple potato soup recipe (twice) from Jerry Avins.
He hasn't posted here in a long time. Anyway, it was so tasty, I wouldn't
add any dill pickes to it.

Gary

[spamtrap1888]

On Jun 19, 11:03 am, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "zxcvbob" <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote in message

>
> news:a4bm72...@mid.individual.net...
>
> > Somebody wrote:
> >> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
>
> (piggybacking, sorry bob!)
>
> Congratuations!  As if anyone cares that you're a vegetarian.
>
> One of the things my father loved for me to cook for him was veal piccata.
> Served with (guess what?) fetuccini alfredo and steamed broccoli.
>
> > I usually have a big hamburger on Thursdays when I go out with the guys
> > from work for lunch, but sometimes that's the only meat I have all week.
>
> I don't have to have meat every day, but I like meat.  I had a nice burger
> for dinner last night.  It was really tasty.
>
> What I don't understand is why there are so many "vegetarian" products that
> imitate meat.
>

So many? The only ones I can think of are gardenburgers and
Morningstar Farms.

Here's why people would eat meat substitutes:

1. People eat meat for a reason: they like the taste and the texture.
Why give up taste and texture if you don't have to?
2. As a transitional food. People who have been eating meat their
whole lives will miss it or even crave it. Rather than backslide, they
can turn to a substitute. A Gardenburger is thus the Nicorette gum of
former carnivores.

[Gary]

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" wrote:
> >
> >What I don't understand is why there are so many "vegetarian" products that
> >imitate meat.
>
> Yeah, that is kinda hypocritical... seems pretty low IQ too that if
> someone is into vegetarianism that they'd even want to eat foods that
> look and taste like meat... they most be very stupid to be so easily
> fooled, and total assholes to want to be fooled. Were I a vegetarian
> (I'm not) the last thing I'd want is food that resembles meat.

There is another side. I've got a good friend that loves meat but many
years ago he quit only because he didn't like the idea of other creatures
having to die for his meals.

For this reason, he buys the meat substitutes. I can understand that. I
might do the same if the vegetarian style wasn't such a big (pain in the
ass) effort to maintain.

I suspect a lot of vegetarians aren't so anti-meat as they are anti-killing
of cute little animals.

Gary

[Jean B.]

But such products are not as good as what they are imitating. I
am eating increasingly less animal protein, not counting eggs,
milk and cheese. My preferences seem to be evolving. There was
no internal debate or decision to do this--maybe a wee recurring
thought that it would be good to do so, but that seems to have
played a very minor role, if any.

--
Jean B.

[Gary]

Tom Biasi wrote:
>
> This is a serious question. Not meant to be antagonistic.
> We have learned to raise animals for food. Why do they have to be a
> certain age before we can eat them?

I agree, Tom. Since so many people don't like how they are raised, why not
kill them sooner. Sounds more humane to me. Even if you have free range
things all running around and happy, they're still going to die so the time
frame shouldn't matter.

G

[Gary]

spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> A Gardenburger is thus the Nicorette gum of
> former carnivores.

I've had them and once you load them up with "all the works" of a hamburger,
they are quite satisfying to me.

Gary

[Tom Biasi]

Your sarcasm is duly noted.
I see no point in discussing your jump to people.
I asked the question because I wanted to hear what the OP would say.

Tom

[Brooklyn1]

All the more idiotic to eat foods that look and taste like meat.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:26:26 -0400, "Somebody"
<tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:


>

>baby Jesus said to not eat meat on Friday, not Monday.
>

I think it was probably some guy in Rome. In any case, it never made
sense to me. I can't have a lowly leftover hotdog on Friday, but I
can have lobster. Yeah, that's a sacrifice.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:55:00 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>

>I suspect a lot of vegetarians aren't so anti-meat as they are anti-killing
>of cute little animals.
>
>Gary

Simple progression:
Birds eat insects, worms, dead animals
Fish eat other fish
Lions eat wildebeest
Ed eats rib eye steak

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Jun 20, 10:55 am, Gary <g.maj...@att.net> wrote:
[snip]

> I suspect a lot of vegetarians aren't so anti-meat as they are anti-killing
> of cute little animals.

The notion of animals as cute furry playthings is a Disneyfication:
- ducks are documented rapists
- rabbits and deer urinate on themselves
- cows and sheep defecate on their food
- pigs scavange carrion and will cannibalise
- goats stink

Indeed, about the only redeeming feature of animals is they taste so
nice!

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Jun 19, 5:23 pm, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless

> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
> Monday?  If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"

I could not imagine anything worse than having an eating disorder like
that.

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Jun 20, 9:29 am, Tom Biasi <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
[snip]

> This is a serious question. Not meant to be antagonistic.
> We have learned to raise animals for food. Why do they have to be a
> certain age before we can eat them?

For me, its a matter of meat:death ratio issue. As a hunter/gatherer,
I'd much rather kill one bigger animal to get x-kg of meat than
several smaller animals (of the samilar species) to get that meat

[Somebody]

"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:4FE10741...@att.net...

yeah, can be. People complain about tofu being bland and not much flavor,
but it's kind of like spaghetti not something you eat alone.

[Somebody]

"Kalmia" <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Does it count that I took the veal pledge years ago and have stuck
by it?

--

what is "the veal pledge"?

[Somebody]

"Tom Biasi" <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> This is a serious question. Not meant to be antagonistic.
> We have learned to raise animals for food. Why do they have to be a
> certain age before we can eat them?
>
> Tom

I'm not sure I understand your question. To me age doesn't matter. It's a
question of raising the animal "humanely" or at least not living a tortured
existence. The way chickens are caged in factory farms does not seem
humane. The way calves are raised for veal seems very cruel. Cows are
social animals and mammals like us. The calf is kept alone in a cramp stall
and kept anemic. It doesn't get any exercise since then it's meat would be
less tender.

[Somebody]

"Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
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The Italians were fishermen.

Then there's the infamous Capybara which South American catholics were given
permission by the church to eat on Fridays
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/in-days-before-easter-venezuelans-tuck-into/11063/

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-405764.html

[Somebody]

"misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com>
wrote in message
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---

nothing worse?

[Somebody]

"George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 6/19/2012 1:23 AM, Somebody wrote:
>> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
>> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
>> Monday? If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"
>>

>> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for
>> immediately
>> being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file" If you do nothing
>> towards being vegetarian that is your decision, but at least don't
>> torture
>> baby cows. In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.
>>
>>
>

> Talk about a small minded person. You sound just like the anti religion
> zealots who apparently have such a weak belief system that they can't
> tolerate even the idea of a religious themed display of any sort.

Thank you for critiquing my belief system. You got it exactly right...
Bill Maher is God.

[Somebody]

"spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37b2c2ec-e8c5-4e40-a0dc-

> What I don't understand is why there are so many "vegetarian" products
> that
> imitate meat.
>

So many? The only ones I can think of are gardenburgers and
Morningstar Farms.

Here's why people would eat meat substitutes:

1. People eat meat for a reason: they like the taste and the texture.
Why give up taste and texture if you don't have to?
2. As a transitional food. People who have been eating meat their
whole lives will miss it or even crave it. Rather than backslide, they
can turn to a substitute. A Gardenburger is thus the Nicorette gum of
former carnivores.

---

I'd agree with this. Food has to be in some form and spiced some way. Why
not in a way people are used to. We are omnivores. And hamburger buns and
hot dog buns are already out there in abundance, so why not have them in
that shape.

The Morningstar Grillers Prime are pretty good. For some reason the price
jumped up from about 2.99 to 4.39 a few months ago. And Kroger puts signs
around it saying "new low price" Same thing happened with Gardenburgers
after they remodeled the store. They do put Morningstar on sale fairly
often though so I just wait for a sale and stock up.

[Julie Bove]

"Somebody" <tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jrru4l$k29$1...@dont-email.me...

> "spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:37b2c2ec-e8c5-4e40-a0dc-
>
>> What I don't understand is why there are so many "vegetarian" products
>> that
>> imitate meat.
>>
>
> So many? The only ones I can think of are gardenburgers and
> Morningstar Farms.
>

What about Seitan? TVP? And Tofu is often prepared like meat.

<snip>

[Gary]

Tom, I was being serious. No sarcasm intended. :)

G

[Somebody]

"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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I like tofu on spaghetti, cut up in little chunks. It absorbs the sauce if
you let it sit a while.

[Somebody]

"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:4FE18D29...@att.net...

We are all going to die, no reason to get premature with it though!

[George M. Middius]

Somebody wrote:

> Thank you for critiquing my belief system. You got it exactly right...
> Bill Maher is God.

Except that he's publicly proclaimed his belief that all "God" stories
are myths, as in fiction, fairy tales, etc.

Or maybe you were trying for irony....

[zxcvbob]

Somebody wrote:

> The Morningstar Grillers Prime are pretty good. For some reason the price
> jumped up from about 2.99 to 4.39 a few months ago. And Kroger puts signs
> around it saying "new low price" Same thing happened with Gardenburgers
> after they remodeled the store.

Notice they didn't say "New Lower Price". See the difference? HTH :-)

Bob

[Jean B.]

You really are a curmudgeon--or you play one very well.

--
Jean B.

[gtr]

On 2012-06-19 05:23:23 +0000, Somebody said:

> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do
> Meatless Monday? If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"

I never even heard of "meatless Monday", and am unsure if your meat
includes chicken or fish, but I'd say at least 2 to 3 days a week we
have chicken, tofu, fish, etc. Actually anymore it gets tough to eat
beef as the wife is more and more reluctant for digestive reasons (or
so she says). Pork gets somewhat short shrift too.

> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for
> immediately being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file"

Why bother posting this, just killfile whoever you like whenever you
like. Nobody keeping score, least of all those who wind up in the most
killfiles.

[gtr]

Oops! Sorry for responding, didn't realize it wasn't really about food.

[gtr]

I do the same but use mushrooms.

[Doug Freyburger]

gtr wrote:
>
> I never even heard of "meatless Monday"

I heard about it from my grandparents who were kids or young adults
during WWI. It was practiced so rationing did not need to be enforced.
Pretty much so my one grandfather who served in WWI could be a cook on a
battleship and feed his troops well, I figure.

I have since read about it in some novels that feature the WWI era.

[Kalmia]

On Jun 19, 11:30 pm, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Kalmia" <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

A number of years ago, PETA or some such asked ppl to vow to never buy
or order veal again. It was easy for me, considering the cost of
veal.

[Somebody]

"zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
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do'h!

[Somebody]

"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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what if the aliens think crispy curmudgeons taste nice?

[George]

Actually you totally missed my point. I made no comment at all about
your belief system just noted that it is so weak that you need to make
requirements that others can't mention anything that might contradict it
very similar to those who feel no one should be allowed to have say a
Christmas display.

[Somebody]

"gtr" <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote in message news:2012062014480737681-xxx@yyyzzz...

Actually it would be interesting to have a scoreboard. .

[Somebody]

"Doug Freyburger" <dfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I thought it was a recent invention of veggie fanatics... I just looked
and you are correct. (I like to fact check. I was born a doubting thomas.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatless_Monday#History

There is a meatlessmonday.com website. It leasts a green pea avocado radish
sandwich.

[Somebody]

"Kalmia" <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

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the economic or spiritual cost?

[Tom Biasi]

Sorry,
I read your post wrong.
I thought you were talking about killed people that are not happy.

[Somebody]

"Tom Biasi" <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in message

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Killed people are probably generally not very happy about. Maybe a few are.
If they were in pain perhaps.

[Tom Biasi]

I meant to type "killing people"

[Somebody]

"Tom Biasi" <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in message

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To Serve Man? Or, Soylent Green?

[Nanzi]

I was told fishy fridays started in the middle ages. Typically slaughter was done at the begining of the week, and by Fridays, the meat was unsafe. It was decreed not to be eaten so as to protect the general populace from unsafe product. Dunno if that is the true origin, but it makes sense.

[Somebody]

"Nanzi" <nan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In "Cows, Pigs, War and Witches" Marvin Harris says that's kind of why the
Jews didn't eat pork. It was "unclean" because it caused disease--
trichinosis.

[David Harmon]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:00:53 -0500 in rec.food.cooking, zxcvbob
<zxc...@charter.net> wrote,

When somebody says something is a "new low" it is supposed to mean lower
than anything of the sort previously. So it was a lie, though perhaps
not a new low.

[spamtrap1888]

On Jun 21, 9:08 am, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Nanzi" <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

No. Pigs were unclean because GOD SAID SO.

What's unclean about a sirloin steak? Nothing, but GOD SAID the "fats"
made it unclean.

[Somebody]

"spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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When did She say that? Please cite the Wikipedia article!

[Tom Biasi]

They were both weird.

[spamtrap1888]

On Jun 21, 9:27 am, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "spamtrap1888" <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelev

But I may be mixing it up with the sciatic nerve prohibition:

http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm

[George M. Middius]

spamtrap1888 wrote:

> > In "Cows, Pigs, War and Witches" Marvin Harris says that's kind of why the
> > Jews didn't eat pork.  It was "unclean" because it caused disease--
> > trichinosis.
>
> No. Pigs were unclean because GOD SAID SO.
>
> What's unclean about a sirloin steak? Nothing, but GOD SAID the "fats"
> made it unclean.

And so it became an article of TrVe Faith.

[sf]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT), Nanzi <nan...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

So, Saturday and Sunday were meatless too?

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

[Roy]

On Monday, June 18, 2012 11:23:23 PM UTC-6, Somebody wrote:
> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
> Monday? If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"
>

> If smartass(es)post a recipe with veal, that will be grounds for immediately

> being in the "blocked senders list" aka "kill file" If you do nothing
> towards being vegetarian that is your decision, but at least don't torture
> baby cows. In the next Life, you will have to answer to them.

On "meatless Mondays" I yearn for meat, fried, BBQed, stewed, boiled, poached
smoked or dried. I am a true omnivore and consider vegans as misguided.

[Somebody]

"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:XnsA0798AE...@216.196.97.131...

> "Somebody" <tom.un...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm of the vegetarian persuasion, so pretty much every day is meatless
>> Monday (for me) but just wondered if there are any here that do Meatless
>> Monday? If so, please post what you do on "meatless Monday"
>
>

> I'm more the carnivore but if I *had* to observe it there would certainly
> be plenty of tasty dishes to have (based on my one meal a day habit):
>
> Linguine and TJ's meatless meatballs in pesto or tomato paste.
>
> A spinach, tomato and cheese omelette.
>
> Eggs Sardu
>
> Black beans and rice burritos served with guac, hot salsa and sour cream.
>
>
> Even simpler stuff:
>
> TJ's garlic hummus on Kavli's hearty rye crispbread and half a cantaloupe
> melon filled with the yogurt of the day.
>
> PB&J
>
> Andersen's split pea soup.
>
> Egg, potato, cucumber or macaroni salad.
>
> A tall stack of cream cheese and chives stuffed French toast, toasted in
> real butter then carved into quarters and drowned with real maple syrup.
>
> Mashed potatoes with butter and a small measure of cream cheese, with peas
> and minced shallots, white peppered to death.
>
> All washed down with a tall glass of an ice-cold beverage! :-)
>
> Yep! Meatless Monday would be easily doable. Farts included. LOL!
>
> A fun thread with endless possibilites, background info and great mileage.
>
> Congrats!
>
> Andy



Your Meatless Mondays will lead to Tooting Tuesdays!

It's not Monday, but beans, rice, salsa and quac sounds good. It's like 95
outside and humid. Mexican goes well on a hot day, with cerveza(s)...
Maybe I will breakdown and go to the El Nopal, but I'm boycotting their
charging 50 cents extra for togo orders.

[Brooklyn1]

Actually the loin was considered unclean because well it's the loin,
and the loin is much too close to the reproductive parts... pigs are
unclean because unlike cattle that give birth to one, perhaps two at a
time pigs typically give birth to litters of like a dozen... pigs are
sluts, ergo sluts are pigs. Back then reproduction wasn't really
understood, folks then knew nothing of sperm and mammal eggs... back
in biblical times folks thought that multiple births were due to a
female being a slut, that she was impregnated by more than one male...
a woman who gave birth to twins was shamed/shunned. When moslems
emerged and women had twins they were stoned to death because that
proved they were unfaithful. Even today there are no moslim twins
because they are killed at birth. Not only that but when a moslem
women is pregnant with twins the father is presumed to be a Jew or a
Negro because moslim males are not virile enough to produce twins.

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Jun 21, 9:22 am, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
> misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
> > On Jun 20, 10:55 am, Gary <g.maj...@att.net> wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> I suspect a lot of vegetarians aren't so anti-meat as they are anti-killing
> >> of cute little animals.
>
> > The notion of animals as cute furry playthings is a Disneyfication:
> >  - ducks are documented rapists
> >  - rabbits and deer urinate on themselves
> >  - cows and sheep defecate on their food
> >  - pigs scavange carrion and will cannibalise
> >  - goats stink
>
> > Indeed, about the only redeeming feature of animals is they taste so
> > nice!
>
> You really are a curmudgeon--or you play one very well.

Yeah. I'm also right.

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

On Jun 22, 4:08 am, "Somebody" <tom.ungvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Nanzi" <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:43dedafb-919f-4804...@googlegroups.com...
>
> I was told fishy fridays started in the middle ages. Typically slaughter was
> done at the begining of the week, and by Fridays, the meat was unsafe. It
> was decreed not to be eaten  so as to protect the general populace from
> unsafe product.   Dunno if that is the true origin, but it makes sense.

After four days hanging, meat is only just starting to become
palatable.

[Jean B.]

I don't think so.

--
Jean B.

[misanthropic_curmudgeon]

What, that animals taste nice? Damn right they do!

[Somebody]

"misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com>
wrote in message
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And you taste good to some animals. And some bacteria...

[Jean B.]

I don't believe animals' only redeeming feature is their taste.

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Jean B.