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Samys Dad

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May 15, 2012, 8:41:15 PM5/15/12
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+ Peace of mind that you won't wonder the store aisles buying things you didn't mean to
+ A methodical map of the store you can follow to get only what you need as fast as possible
+ 4 day food planner
+ allergy & intolerance organizer

Julie Bove

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May 15, 2012, 8:49:42 PM5/15/12
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> + Peace of mind that you won't wonder the store aisles buying things you
> didn't mean to

I never wonder the aisles. I wander what that even means?

> + A methodical map of the store you can follow to get only what you need
> as fast as possible
> + 4 day food planner
> + allergy & intolerance organizer

A pen and paper works well for me.


Polly Esther

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May 15, 2012, 10:28:52 PM5/15/12
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I do keep a thorough list of what should be in the pantry, refrigerator, and
freezer on computer. I print it and do an inventory before grocery shopping.
No fun at all. OTOH, I can't shove the pirogue out and paddle to the grocery
very often so the list is necessary. Gives me time to 'wonder' the aisles a
bit and see what's new, specially the produce section. Polly

sf

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On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:49:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

> I never wonder the aisles. I wander what that even means?

I do it. I spent too many years on the perimeter of the grocery
store, not having a clue about what was on the inside. I have time to
wander up and down to look now, so I do. As a result, my weekly
grocery bill is about 1/3 higher than it should be. <sigh>

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

spamtrap1888

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On May 15, 9:42 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:49:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > I never wonder the aisles.  I wander what that even means?
>
> I do it.  I spent too many years on the perimeter of the grocery
> store, not having a clue about what was on the inside.  I have time to
> wander up and down to look now, so I do.  As a result, my weekly
> grocery bill is about 1/3 higher than it should be.  <sigh>
>

As a young man, I did the weekly shopping for the family after our mom
died. Hungry after a long day of work, I wanted to get in and out of
the supermarket as fast as possible. So I made a list of everything we
regularly bought at the grocery store, and arranged it by aisle from
left to right. Then I made a little pile of photocopies. So I could
tick off things as we needed them, then grab the list as I ran out the
door. Back then, center store items such as cereal and canned goods
were a bigger part of my shopping than they are now.

Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 12:58:38 AM5/16/12
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"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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I always like to look for new things.


Julie Bove

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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:49:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> I never wonder the aisles. I wander what that even means?
>
> I do it. I spent too many years on the perimeter of the grocery
> store, not having a clue about what was on the inside. I have time to
> wander up and down to look now, so I do. As a result, my weekly
> grocery bill is about 1/3 higher than it should be. <sigh>

*Whoosh*


Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 1:03:56 AM5/16/12
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"spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's a good idea! I have seen pre-made lists but they usually include a
lot of things we don't even buy.

I have made a list on my computer but I buy so many things that are the same
now and I have to shop at so many different stores, I don't do that any
more.


Christine Dabney

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May 16, 2012, 1:11:14 AM5/16/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:42:55 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:49:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> I never wonder the aisles. I wander what that even means?
>
>I do it. I spent too many years on the perimeter of the grocery
>store, not having a clue about what was on the inside. I have time to
>wander up and down to look now, so I do. As a result, my weekly
>grocery bill is about 1/3 higher than it should be. <sigh>

I always wander the aisles. It is a wonderful way to find out about
the area you are in, if you are traveling as I do so often. You can
find out so much about the culture of the area you are in.

I guess I am just curious about such things. I like finding out about
the different things that people like in various areas and what they
will spend money on.

I realized this when I first moved from California back to Kentucky.
In California, the canned food aisles were not that long or extensive.
When I got back to Kentucky, it astounded me. Miles and miles (it
seemed) of canned foods. And a tiny produce section compared to the
ones in California. I was astounded.

It is also fascinating wandering the aisles of the Mexican markets I
go to, or the Asian markets. Or any other ethnic market. One learns
a great deal about different cultures.

I cannot imagine not being curious about the way folks eat or cook, or
what they buy. I love being curious.

Christine
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http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

Tommy Joe

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May 16, 2012, 3:57:21 AM5/16/12
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On May 15, 8:49 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:

> A pen and paper works well for me.


Damn right. I buy index cards and fold like 3 of them back to back
in half vertically to fit in my shirt pocket, or pants pocket, either
way. I also carry a pen. I've been writing lists for years. I right
the list in the order of how I'm going to attack the store. I am not
against dawdling though. Sometimes things pop into view that are
worthwhile. But to wander aimlessly about when one is in a hurry and
then getting home only to find they've forgotten something, that is
stupid. It amazes people how fast I'm in and out of stores.

Speaking of stores, I also go to the Dollar Tree where everything
is a dollar, no less, no more. I know how they make their money. The
aisles are not marked by item, only by number. They want people to
wander. And if that's what's needed to keep the store in business,
sad to say I'm all for it. Another funny thing is that candy bars in
the dollar store are a dollar when often in the super markets they're
70 cents. I'm not a comparison shopper to the point where I'll go out
of my way to save a dime, but I store it in my head for later. I
can't figure the people who are so afraid of using a list. What are
they, afraid that someone is going to think they have alzheimers or
something?

Next on my list? - Hit the send button
TJ

jmcquown

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May 16, 2012, 5:02:46 AM5/16/12
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"Christine Dabney" <arti...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:42:55 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:49:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>><juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I never wonder the aisles. I wander what that even means?
>>
LOL Barbara!

>>I do it. I spent too many years on the perimeter of the grocery
>>store, not having a clue about what was on the inside. I have time to
>>wander up and down to look now, so I do. As a result, my weekly
>>grocery bill is about 1/3 higher than it should be. <sigh>
>
> I always wander the aisles. It is a wonderful way to find out about
> the area you are in, if you are traveling as I do so often. You can
> find out so much about the culture of the area you are in.
>
> I guess I am just curious about such things. I like finding out about
> the different things that people like in various areas and what they
> will spend money on.
>
> I realized this when I first moved from California back to Kentucky.
> In California, the canned food aisles were not that long or extensive.
> When I got back to Kentucky, it astounded me. Miles and miles (it
> seemed) of canned foods. And a tiny produce section compared to the
> ones in California. I was astounded.
>
> It is also fascinating wandering the aisles of the Mexican markets I
> go to, or the Asian markets. Or any other ethnic market. One learns
> a great deal about different cultures.
>
> I cannot imagine not being curious about the way folks eat or cook, or
> what they buy. I love being curious.
>
> Christine
> --

I hate grocery shopping. (If I could, I'd have groceries delivered to my
house.) But I do traverse each aisle, mostly because they keep moving
things around. If I don't look all over the store I might miss or forget
something. I shop from a list but I do occasionally make an impulse
purchase. I couldn't do that if if didn't wander up and down the aisles.

Jill

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Kalmia

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May 16, 2012, 9:30:37 AM5/16/12
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MY method, Bub:

I have my own aisle guide for stuff I buy all the time. I give it as a
welcome gift to newcomers to the area too.

I keep a list on the fridge next to my shopping list of stuff to
review e.g. garlic, milk. These are things I don't want to run out
of the day after I shop.

I stick to my list, I don't look for specials, I park as far away from
the other cars for a quick getaway and fender-bender avoidance. I try
to make the grocery shopping experience as quick and efficient as
possible.

I am ready to whip my payt. card thru the scanner as the guy is
ringing up my stuff, so no one yells at me for change-fumbling or,
heaven forbid, check writing.. I even help bag my stuff, so the surly
teen bagger has a slightly better attitude and I can get the cold
stuff in one bag.

sf

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May 16, 2012, 10:19:01 AM5/16/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:59:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 15 May 2012 17:49:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I never wonder the aisles. I wander what that even means?
> >
> > I do it. I spent too many years on the perimeter of the grocery
> > store, not having a clue about what was on the inside. I have time to
> > wander up and down to look now, so I do. As a result, my weekly
> > grocery bill is about 1/3 higher than it should be. <sigh>
>
> *Whoosh*
>
If you thought that was funny word play, you need to talk to Ophelia
not me.

Nunya Bidnits

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May 16, 2012, 10:42:55 AM5/16/12
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That had a certain resonance, rather like a conch shell. ;-)


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Nunya Bidnits

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Kalmia <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> MY method, Bub:
>
> I have my own aisle guide for stuff I buy all the time. I give it as a
> welcome gift to newcomers to the area too.
>
> I keep a list on the fridge next to my shopping list of stuff to
> review e.g. garlic, milk. These are things I don't want to run out
> of the day after I shop.
>
> I stick to my list, I don't look for specials, I park as far away from
> the other cars for a quick getaway and fender-bender avoidance. I try
> to make the grocery shopping experience as quick and efficient as
> possible.
>
> I am ready to whip my payt. card thru the scanner as the guy is
> ringing up my stuff, so no one yells at me for change-fumbling or,
> heaven forbid, check writing..

The check writers are even worse than the coin purse people.

What is the deal? They act almost surprised when an amount of money is
announced that they owe. Only then do they make the first cautious move
towards purse or pocket. At that point they become hyper-vigilant, casting
suspicious glances as they reach for their precious cache of bank notes, and
won't even tear the check out and present it until after they have entered
the amount on the ledger and calculated their new balance. And all of this
happens with mind-numbing slowness, lest some con-artist checker pull a fast
one. It's almost enough to drive me to the self-checkout scanner... naah.

MartyB


billn

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May 16, 2012, 4:22:14 PM5/16/12
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Funny. The chain I go to used to have somehting similar printed right on
their paper grocery bags...
--
bill n


Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 6:07:23 PM5/16/12
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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Why?


Julie Bove

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"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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I can't stand check writers! You know you are going to the store. Get
cash! I've been doing that for many years and it always works. I don't
write a check unless they will take no other form of payment. Such as for
my daughter's school pictures. Debit cards can be annoying too. Especially
when the machine isn't working right.


Nunya Bidnits

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May 16, 2012, 6:32:04 PM5/16/12
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> Debit cards can be
> annoying too. Especially when the machine isn't working right.

Huh? I use debit cards literally thousands of times a year and can recall
just once when the machine was not working, and they had a manual imprinter
to take care of the problem.

MartyB


Chemo the Clown

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May 16, 2012, 6:37:24 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 3:32 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
It's the Bove...remember. Every little thing annoys her.

Chemo the Clown

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On May 16, 3:09 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
If your time is that valuable then shop at 3 in the morning.

Julie Bove

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"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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A lot of the ones here are touch screen now and they simply won't work
whether with the stylus or my finger. I've had to press on the screen
repeatedly. Once they even had to take my items to another register and
ring them up over there.


jmcquown

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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2012 05:02:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I hate grocery shopping. (If I could, I'd have groceries delivered to my
>> house.) But I do traverse each aisle, mostly because they keep moving
>> things around. If I don't look all over the store I might miss or forget
>> something. I shop from a list but I do occasionally make an impulse
>> purchase. I couldn't do that if if didn't wander up and down the aisles.
>
> I don't understand how people who like to cook (and eat) don't like
> grocery shopping.
>
(snippage)

Grocery shopping is a chore. Sort of like mopping the kitchen floor. I do
it but I don't enjoy it. I enjoy cooking (and eating), but driving 20 miles
(one way) to buy food isn't my idea of fun. So I make a list and shop
pretty much shop once a month. Sure, I'll go to pick up milk, eggs or bread
at the dollar store the which is only 6 miles away. Other than that, I make
a list and fill the freezer and pantry from Pubix. Sometimes I go to the
meat market on Lady's Island and the vegetable stand on Friday or Saturday.
But I really don't like shopping.

Jill

Chemo the Clown

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May 16, 2012, 7:12:29 PM5/16/12
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You shop about once a month and complain about that? Geez.....

Janet

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May 16, 2012, 7:28:20 PM5/16/12
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In article <jp1as4$quc$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
In UK checkouts, debit and credit cards are processed exactly the same
way in the same machine; you push your card in the machine slot, the
screen tells you it's been accepted and to enter the PIN number on the
push-button keypad.Wait for the OK, withdraw card. Very fast and I've
never had a problem using either kind of card.

Janet.

Steve Pope

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May 16, 2012, 7:35:26 PM5/16/12
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jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Grocery shopping is a chore. Sort of like mopping the kitchen floor. I do
>it but I don't enjoy it. I enjoy cooking (and eating), but driving 20 miles
>(one way) to buy food isn't my idea of fun.

So it is driving 20 miles that is a chore, not grocery shopping per se.

But yeah, grocery shopping is never as much fun as, say, wine shopping.



Steve

jmcquown

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"Steve Pope" <spo...@speedymail.org> wrote in message
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> jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Grocery shopping is a chore. Sort of like mopping the kitchen floor. I
>>do
>>it but I don't enjoy it. I enjoy cooking (and eating), but driving 20
>>miles
>>(one way) to buy food isn't my idea of fun.
>
> So it is driving 20 miles that is a chore, not grocery shopping per se.
>
Both, actually. And spending the money on gas.

Jill

Jean B.

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May 16, 2012, 8:07:17 PM5/16/12
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 05:02:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I hate grocery shopping. (If I could, I'd have groceries delivered to my
>> house.) But I do traverse each aisle, mostly because they keep moving
>> things around. If I don't look all over the store I might miss or forget
>> something. I shop from a list but I do occasionally make an impulse
>> purchase. I couldn't do that if if didn't wander up and down the aisles.
>
> I don't understand how people who like to cook (and eat) don't like
> grocery shopping.
>
> I wander the isles when I plan on spending $40 or more. And I don't
> use a list. I buy what looks good when the price justifies it. I
> spent $120 yesterday at the grocery store and I had two things on my
> mental list - vinegar and lemon juice (because I'm a sour puss). All
> the rest, I guess you could call them "impulse buys".
>
> -sw

My approach varies. Some stores seem to invite more wandering
than others. I especially like looking at the ethnic offerings.
If I am doing so in an Asian store, especially, there is always
something interesting that catches my eye. I have to remember to
do this shop crawling when I am with my friend who also likes to
do that. My daughter acts like she is being tortured.

Oh, and new stores are also fun.

OTOH, I detest clothes shopping. They could at least have left
jeans alone....

--
Jean B.

Jean B.

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May 16, 2012, 8:08:47 PM5/16/12
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I always pay cash. And if there is time, I have my money out. If
there is even more time, I sort some change or calculate the sales
tax and whether I want quarters back.

--
Jean B.

Chemo the Clown

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May 16, 2012, 7:48:06 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 4:45 pm, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Steve Pope" <spop...@speedymail.org> wrote in message
>
> news:jp1dju$1j3$1...@blue-new.rahul.net...> jmcquown <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>Grocery shopping is a chore.  Sort of like mopping the kitchen floor.  I
> >>do
> >>it but I don't enjoy it.  I enjoy cooking (and eating), but driving 20
> >>miles
> >>(one way) to buy food isn't my idea of fun.
>
> > So it is driving 20 miles that is a chore, not grocery shopping per se.
>
> Both, actually.  And spending the money on gas.
>
> Jill

Well, if your car gets about 20 miles/gallon then it costs you about
$8 for shopping once a month. I'd say that's not bad.

Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 8:57:39 PM5/16/12
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"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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Here you have to put in your PIN for debit cards. Then you have to either
okay the amount or tell it if you want cash back and then okay the amount.
If the touch screen isn't working then it really slows things down a lot.
Some machines have a keypad for entering the PIN. Some only have the touch
screen.

I have also had times where the machine just locked up. Or if the checker
does something wrong then you have to start over. This has happened to me
when I was using coupons. Or my own bag. The checker failed to enter the
bag discount or coupons into the register so then I had to re-swipe the card
and start over.


Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 8:59:21 PM5/16/12
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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I almost always pay cash. Once in a while the ATM machine will not be
working or it's an emergency purchase and I have to use my card. Otherwise
I get the cash ready, including any change I might need. I am pretty good
at figuring the total so can have about the right amount of cash ready to
pay.


Cheryl

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May 16, 2012, 9:00:14 PM5/16/12
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On 5/16/2012 5:02 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I hate grocery shopping. (If I could, I'd have groceries delivered to
> my house.) But I do traverse each aisle, mostly because they keep
> moving things around. If I don't look all over the store I might miss
> or forget something. I shop from a list but I do occasionally make an
> impulse purchase. I couldn't do that if if didn't wander up and down
> the aisles.

I love grocery shopping but it's ever increasingly hard to do. So, I do
get home delivery for my major shopping trip. It's easy to stick to a
list and not impulse buy. And because delivery is usually at least a
day away, I have time to add things I've forgotten.

Julie Bove

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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I don't mind grocery shopping for the most part. When we shopped at the
military commissary it could be a pain. We only went there maybe twice a
month so invariably I had two carts full of stuff. Also my husband would be
there and he was always tossing things I didn't know about in the cart.
Because the store was so far away we usually had to bring along cold packs
and make sure that all of the perishables were put separately. Then there
was so much stuff it would take a long time to put away! And I would have
to pick up something that was ready to eat because we'd always get home
right at dinner time.


Julie Bove

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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> My approach varies. Some stores seem to invite more wandering than
> others. I especially like looking at the ethnic offerings. If I am doing
> so in an Asian store, especially, there is always something interesting
> that catches my eye. I have to remember to do this shop crawling when I
> am with my friend who also likes to do that. My daughter acts like she is
> being tortured.
>
> Oh, and new stores are also fun.
>
> OTOH, I detest clothes shopping. They could at least have left jeans
> alone....

Me too! Jeans are bad to shop for and bras can be really bad too. I
actually have better luck with these things by shopping online at stores
that give really good descriptions, measurements and have a size chart
listed. Once in a while something won't fit me right or be flattering but I
save a TON of time by shopping this way.

I try to stay out of the clothing departments in stores. Once in a while I
will venture by one, see something I like, only to find out that they do not
have it in my size or the color that I want.


Jean B.

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May 16, 2012, 9:15:37 PM5/16/12
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I was going to mention bras. Now that is one miserable shopping
trip. WHY is it that if you find a bra you can stand, it is
discontinued, so you have to go through the arduous process of
finding a new one every time you are in dire need? And do the
stores REALLY expect me to totally disrobe my top half, try on the
few I am allowed, and then get dressed again to go get a few more?
I usually stick to the rules, but in this case, I will take in
as many bras as I can. And chances are, I still won't find one
that fits.

--
Jean B.

Dave Smith

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May 16, 2012, 9:30:09 PM5/16/12
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On 16/05/2012 9:00 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> I love grocery shopping but it's ever increasingly hard to do. So, I do
> get home delivery for my major shopping trip. It's easy to stick to a
> list and not impulse buy. And because delivery is usually at least a day
> away, I have time to add things I've forgotten.
>

My late brother in law, an engineer, was so anal that he not only had a
list and maps of the stores, but the maps were almost to scale and his
shopping list ordered by item location.
I rarely use a list.

Christine Dabney

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On Wed, 16 May 2012 21:30:09 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I rarely use a list.

I take a list of the things I absolutely have to get. Other than
that, I see what looks good.

Christine
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http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

Cheryl

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May 16, 2012, 10:11:55 PM5/16/12
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Same here. Julie is again making a stink over something that happened
one time and inconvenienced her. One time. I'd bet on it.


Polly Esther

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May 16, 2012, 10:51:35 PM5/16/12
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Since grocery shopping here is a major event, I've enjoyed learning here
that milk does just fine if frozen. What a help that has been. Now. Tell
me any great tricks you've learned on keeping fruit. All of the healthy
heart 'experts' want me to eat lots of it but it's so expensive and spoils
so quickly. I do okay with bananas and oranges. Any help with the others?
Polly

Dave Smith

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May 16, 2012, 11:04:00 PM5/16/12
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On 16/05/2012 10:51 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
> Since grocery shopping here is a major event, I've enjoyed learning here
> that milk does just fine if frozen.

Most of the time it does work out well. I had a bad experience with it
about a month ago. We had a communication problem and we each bought a 4
litre bag of milk, which is about a one month supply for us. Each four
litre back has three 1.3 litre bags, so they got thrown into the freezer
together but were taken out and thawed as needed. The first two were
fine. The third one was curdled.... not sour but water liquid and globs
of solids.

Julie Bove

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"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Nope. The Target order had to be re-rung one time. The touch screens not
working happened many times. Often the same one. They knew there was a
problem but didn't get it fixed.

My friend works at a local pharmacy chain. I asked her why the cashiers
freaked out if you didn't put your pin number in fast enough? She said the
machine only allows about 30 seconds then shuts down and you have to start
over again. But if machine isn't working and you can't get that PIN in
there, you have to do it over.

Maybe I just do more shopping that you do? I go shopping almost every day.
There are probably one or two days each week where I don't go. But I go on
all of the other days unless I am snowed in.


Julie Bove

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"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I got delivery once when I was snowed in. That store soon after quit
delivering in inclement weather and now doesn't deliver at all. The biggest
pain was the my computer was very slow at the time. I have since added RAM.
Not sure if that would help or not. But it took hours to place a small
order. Then they were out of something I had ordered and subbed in a
product that I do not like.


Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 11:17:43 PM5/16/12
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"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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I mainly use a list for things I wouldn't normally buy. Like the birthday
things I need for this weekend. Or things that a particular store has on
sale for a very good price so I don't forget to buy it. Our diet currently
has enough sameness to it that we eat the same few meals over and over
again, just switching them out every now and again. So I really don't need
a list to buy those things.


Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 11:23:09 PM5/16/12
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Either that or they cheapen the bras! I wore Bali bras for years and would
just mail order them.

After we moved back here, I went to the movies with my parents and all of a
sudden I had a letdown feeling!

I dashed into the restroom only to discover that the ring holding my strap
on was now made of thin, cheap plastic and it had broken! I managed to put
it temporarily back in place and sat very still through the movie.

We had other places to go after that so I really needed a bra. There was a
J.C. Penny store near there. I don't normally shop at that store but I
figured it was my best shot for a cheap bra, figuring that whatever I got
wouldn't be something I liked but would get me through that one day.

Luckily the bra that I bought did fit and I was amazed to see that it was
high quality. So I bought some more online when I got home.

The thing that really got me was the nasty comment that my dad made. I
can't remember his exact words but something about why didn't I buy a good
bra? Why was I wearing a cheap one that broke? The bra wasn't cheap (IMO).
Not expensive like a Wacoal but it wasn't a Best Form either! And I had
only had it for a few months.


Julie Bove

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May 16, 2012, 11:25:22 PM5/16/12
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"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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What about canned or frozen? It keeps. I don't buy a lot of fresh fruit
because people normally won't eat it. My husband will go on a fruit kick
once in a while and daughter is currently to eat 3 servings a day on the
diet she is on. But normally very little gets eaten.


Tommy Joe

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May 16, 2012, 11:53:52 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 9:30 am, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> MY method, Bub:
>
> I have my own aisle guide for stuff I buy all the time. I give it as a
> welcome gift to newcomers to the area too.
>
> I keep a list on the fridge next to my shopping list of stuff to
> review e.g. garlic, milk.   These are things I don't want to run out
> of the day after I shop.
>
> I stick to my list, I don't look for specials, I park as far away from
> the other cars for a quick getaway and fender-bender avoidance.  I try
> to make the grocery shopping experience as quick and efficient as
> possible.
>
> I am ready to whip my payt. card thru the scanner  as the guy is
> ringing up my stuff, so no one yells at me for change-fumbling or,
> heaven forbid, check writing..  I even help bag my stuff, so the surly
> teen bagger has a slightly better attitude and I can get the cold
> stuff in one bag.


I'm not sure who you're talking to, but you just described me to
a tee. I'm a thorough guy when I want to be. I'm the guy everyone
thinks is nuts because I scan overpasses for snipers or mischievous
youths ready to drop bowling balls on passing cars. But when it
happens and I see it in time and yell "Watch Out!" and everyone
swerves to avoid being blown to bits or squashed by a falling bowling
ball - when it happens, what do I get? Nothing. No appreciation.
Without thorough people bordering on anal or beyond this world would
crumble in disarray.

TJ

Pennyaline

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May 17, 2012, 12:06:57 AM5/17/12
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On 5/16/2012 6:59 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B."<jb...@rcn.com> wrote
>> I always pay cash. And if there is time, I have my money out. If there
>> is even more time, I sort some change or calculate the sales tax and
>> whether I want quarters back.
>
> I almost always pay cash. Once in a while the ATM machine will not be
> working or it's an emergency purchase and I have to use my card. Otherwise
> I get the cash ready, including any change I might need. I am pretty good
> at figuring the total so can have about the right amount of cash ready to
> pay.


I'm pretty good at figuring out how much the grocery bill is going to
run before I get to the checkout, but when I offer cash for payment the
checkout girl/guy looks at me like I've got two heads. Just the other
day I though one of them was going to call the manager on me because she
couldn't get the correct change counted out and was getting all kinds of
twisty about it. It's at times like those that the self-checkout lane
has its advantages (it constantly yells at me to "Please take my items"
while I count my change, double check my receipt and put my wallet away,
but at least it doesn't throw canned goods on top of the bread out of spite)


Tommy Joe

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May 17, 2012, 12:04:07 AM5/17/12
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On May 16, 12:56 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:

> What is the deal? They act almost surprised when an amount of money is
> announced that they owe. Only then do they make the first cautious move
> towards purse or pocket. At that point they become hyper-vigilant, casting
> suspicious glances as they reach for their precious cache of bank notes, and
> won't even tear the check out and present it until after they have entered
> the amount on the ledger and calculated their new balance. And all of this
> happens with mind-numbing slowness, lest some con-artist checker pull a fast
> one. It's almost enough to drive me to the self-checkout scanner... naah.



Maybe it would be a good idea to put a tent on the checkout
aisle so whoever is next goes into the tent and is not seen by anyone
other than the checkout person. The tent is made of soundproof
material to prevent line eavesdropping. This way no one knows what's
causing the delay. It could be a coupon person, or someone who is
challenging the price, or someone taking forever to write a check, or
it could be the checkout girl and her boyfriend are using the tent for
a quickie. But the point is, not knowing for sure what is causing the
delay is good because it doesn't allow the blame to be pointed in just
one direction. I agree though, I don't like the coupon people and the
slow, count out the pennies one by one people either. But as hyper as
I am I sort of expect it. I might grab some piece of crap magazine
off the rack and look through it while waiting, and if I get in the
middle of something decent, of course at just that moment the checkout
person interrupts me with a booming "Next!" I am a very hyper person
who might give off the vibe of impatience, but the truth is I'm more
patient than the average person. People can't go fast enough. Fast
food isn't fast enough. When passenger air travel began the attitude
was "Wow, I can be in Miami by 6 o'clock this morning." Now it's "I
have to be in Miami by 6 o'clock this morning. Today's luxury is
tomorrows necessity.

TJ
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Janet

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May 17, 2012, 5:19:43 AM5/17/12
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In article <jp1qah$ht5$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
How extraordinary. There's no time limit here that I've ever
encountered. The machines always allow three tries at the PIN (for clumsy
people or those who misremembered their PIN). If all three fail the
assistant will ask if you have another card you want to use instead.

> Maybe I just do more shopping that you do?

That pig might fly if you hadn't pleaded poverty so often :-)

Janet

Janet

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May 17, 2012, 5:21:44 AM5/17/12
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In article <a1j7dn...@mid.individual.net>, Poll...@cableone.net
says...
Any non-tropical fruit, like apples and plums, can be kept in the
fridge.

Janet

Nunya Bidnits

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May 17, 2012, 9:02:27 AM5/17/12
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> Here you have to put in your PIN for debit cards. Then you have to
> either okay the amount or tell it if you want cash back and then okay
> the amount. If the touch screen isn't working then it really slows
> things down a lot. Some machines have a keypad for entering the PIN. Some
> only have the touch screen.
>
> I have also had times where the machine just locked up. Or if the
> checker does something wrong then you have to start over. This has
> happened to me when I was using coupons. Or my own bag. The checker
> failed to enter the bag discount or coupons into the register so then
> I had to re-swipe the card and start over.

Have you ever heard of Joe Btfsplk? I'm sure you're related.


Nunya Bidnits

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May 17, 2012, 9:07:21 AM5/17/12
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For soemeone who almost always pays cash you have an inordinate frequency of
debit card fails. You do realize you need money in the account for it to
work, right?


Pennyaline

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May 17, 2012, 9:51:16 AM5/17/12
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On 5/17/2012 12:24 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 22:06:57 -0600, Pennyaline wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty good at figuring out how much the grocery bill is going to
>> run before I get to the checkout, but when I offer cash for payment the
>> checkout girl/guy looks at me like I've got two heads.
>
> Maybe it's just a bad hair day? Plenty of people still pay with cash
> enough that it shouldn't phase any cashier when you choose to do so.
> And especially not as often as you imply.


And yet it does effect the kids around here that'away. The older
checkstand personnel, no. The kids, yes. And it's kids that make up the
majority of store/supermarket employees.

Julie Bove

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"Janet" <H...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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What? I've never pleaded poverty!


Julie Bove

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"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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I don't use the debit machine very often. I have also seen others have
trouble with it.


Nancy2

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May 17, 2012, 11:10:36 AM5/17/12
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On May 16, 8:30 am, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> MY method, Bub:
>
> I have my own aisle guide for stuff I buy all the time. I give it as a
> welcome gift to newcomers to the area too.
>
> I keep a list on the fridge next to my shopping list of stuff to
> review e.g. garlic, milk.   These are things I don't want to run out
> of the day after I shop.
>
> I stick to my list, I don't look for specials, I park as far away from
> the other cars for a quick getaway and fender-bender avoidance.  I try
> to make the grocery shopping experience as quick and efficient as
> possible.
>
> I am ready to whip my payt. card thru the scanner  as the guy is
> ringing up my stuff, so no one yells at me for change-fumbling or,
> heaven forbid, check writing..  I even help bag my stuff, so the surly
> teen bagger has a slightly better attitude and I can get the cold
> stuff in one bag.

IMO, aisle lists aren't much good unless they can be changed every
week - the stores are always moving stuff around.

N.

Nancy2

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May 17, 2012, 11:16:54 AM5/17/12
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On May 16, 11:56 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
> Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> > MY method, Bub:
>
> > I have my own aisle guide for stuff I buy all the time. I give it as a
> > welcome gift to newcomers to the area too.
>
> > I keep a list on the fridge next to my shopping list of stuff to
> > review e.g. garlic, milk.   These are things I don't want to run out
> > of the day after I shop.
>
> > I stick to my list, I don't look for specials, I park as far away from
> > the other cars for a quick getaway and fender-bender avoidance.  I try
> > to make the grocery shopping experience as quick and efficient as
> > possible.
>
> > I am ready to whip my payt. card thru the scanner  as the guy is
> > ringing up my stuff, so no one yells at me for change-fumbling or,
> > heaven forbid, check writing..
>
> The check writers are even worse than the coin purse people.
>
> What is the deal? They act almost surprised when an amount of money is
> announced that they owe. Only then do they make the first cautious move
> towards purse or pocket. At that point they become hyper-vigilant, casting
> suspicious glances as they reach for their precious cache of bank notes, and
> won't even tear the check out and present it until after they have entered
> the amount on the ledger and calculated their new balance. And all of this
> happens with mind-numbing slowness, lest some con-artist checker pull a fast
> one. It's almost enough to drive me to the self-checkout scanner... naah.
>
> MartyB

Oh, let's not go there again! We've beaten this horse until there's
nothing left.

N.

Nancy2

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On May 16, 5:48 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:jp19tf$lcu$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> > Julie Bove <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> Debit cards can be
> >> annoying too.  Especially when the machine isn't working right.
>
> > Huh? I use debit cards literally thousands of times a year and can recall
> > just once when the machine was not working, and they had a manual
> > imprinter to take care of the problem.
>
> A lot of the ones here are touch screen now and they simply won't work
> whether with the stylus or my finger.  I've had to press on the screen
> repeatedly.  Once they even had to take my items to another register and
> ring them up over there.

Here's your first clue: DO NOT PRESS ON THE SCREEN! All it takes is
a very light swipe of your finger. Duh.

N.
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spamtrap1888

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May 17, 2012, 11:40:28 AM5/17/12
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This is certainly true of Trader Joe's, but regular stores where I
live seldom shift product locations -- one finally did after I've
shopped there five years.
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KenK

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May 17, 2012, 12:43:27 PM5/17/12
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"Polly Esther" <Poll...@cableone.net> wrote in
news:a1j7dn...@mid.individual.net:

> Since grocery shopping here is a major event, I've enjoyed learning
> here that milk does just fine if frozen. What a help that has been.
> Now. Tell me any great tricks you've learned on keeping fruit. All
> of the healthy heart 'experts' want me to eat lots of it but it's so
> expensive and spoils so quickly. I do okay with bananas and oranges.
> Any help with the others? Polly
>

The oranges I've been getting have thick skins. I did some weighing and
the removed skins weigh almost half the complete orage. At about $1 a
pound for oranges that's too much for peelings. Instead I've been buyiong
seedless grapes recently. Very little waste and they keep well for me in
the refrigerator. I gave up on bananas long ago - too many have nice
clear skins but still have large brown areas when peeled, which I won't
eat.

Still looking for the ideal reasonably-priced fruit. Apples and such are
out - can't eat them with my dentures.




--
"Experience is something you don't get until
just after you need it." Steven Wright







Kalmia

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May 17, 2012, 1:06:26 PM5/17/12
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On May 16, 11:12 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4fb45e71$0$28721$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/16/2012 7:28 PM, Janet wrote:
> >> In article<jp1as4$qu...@dont-email.me>, julieb...@frontier.com says...
>
> >>> "Nunya Bidnits"<nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid>  wrote in
> >>> message
> >>>news:jp19tf$lcu$1...@dont-email.me...
> >>>> Julie Bove<julieb...@frontier.com>  wrote:
If someone can't remember the PIN and enter it in 30
seconds.....pretty pathetic.

I guess La Bove is the only person who has a sea of troubles.....

Kalmia

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May 17, 2012, 1:09:45 PM5/17/12
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On May 16, 8:59 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a1itsc...@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> >>news:jp0m7s$ecn$1...@dont-email.me...
> >>> Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> >>>> MY method, Bub:
>
> >>>> I have my own aisle guide for stuff I buy all the time. I give it as a
> >>>> welcome gift to newcomers to the area too.
>
> >>>> I keep a list on the fridge next to my shopping list of stuff to
> >>>> review e.g. garlic, milk.   These are things I don't want to run out
> >>>> of the day after I shop.
>
> >>>> I stick to my list, I don't look for specials, I park as far away from
> >>>> the other cars for a quick getaway and fender-bender avoidance.  I try
> >>>> to make the grocery shopping experience as quick and efficient as
> >>>> possible.
>
> >>>> I am ready to whip my payt. card thru the scanner  as the guy is
> >>>> ringing up my stuff, so no one yells at me for change-fumbling or,
> >>>> heaven forbid, check writing..
> >>> The check writers are even worse than the coin purse people.
>
> >>> What is the deal? They act almost surprised when an amount of money is
> >>> announced that they owe. Only then do they make the first cautious move
> >>> towards purse or pocket. At that point they become hyper-vigilant,
> >>> casting suspicious glances as they reach for their precious cache of
> >>> bank notes, and won't even tear the check out and present it until after
> >>> they have entered the amount on the ledger and calculated their new
> >>> balance. And all of this happens with mind-numbing slowness, lest some
> >>> con-artist checker pull a fast one. It's almost enough to drive me to
> >>> the self-checkout scanner... naah.
>
> >>> MartyB
>
> >> I can't stand check writers!  You know you are going to the store.  Get
> >> cash!  I've been doing that for many years and it always works.  I don't
> >> write a check unless they will take no other form of payment.  Such as
> >> for my daughter's school pictures.  Debit cards can be annoying too.
> >> Especially when the machine isn't working right.
> > I always pay cash.  And if there is time, I have my money out.  If there
> > is even more time, I sort some change or calculate the sales tax and
> > whether I want quarters back.
>
> I almost always pay cash.  Once in a while the ATM machine will not be
> working or it's an emergency purchase and I have to use my card.  Otherwise
> I get the cash ready, including any change I might need.  I am pretty good
> at figuring the total so can have about the right amount of cash ready to
> pay.

First you say you have problems with PINs, debit card machines etc.
Now you say I almost always pay cash. So, what is it? I guess the
world is just against you and you love to switch your stories to build
the drama. Am I close?

Kalmia

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May 17, 2012, 1:17:25 PM5/17/12
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Actually, I've been on the same guide for years. Smart store
management, I guess.

Kalmia

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May 17, 2012, 1:16:31 PM5/17/12
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Sorry, dude, I'm taken, and prob. in your grandmother's age group.
We'd drive each other nuts too, trying to over-anal-ize everything.

This morning I just HAD to spend ten minutes changing the title I'd
made for the spine of a binder---all to add ONE WORD. I'd cut the
paper too short, so cudn't access it thru the push-hole. Finally, I
stretched out a paperclip and managed to shove the paper out, then the
clip was stuck and so on. But at least i can sleep tonight...... : ))

Nunya Bidnits

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May 17, 2012, 1:47:08 PM5/17/12
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> For soemeone who almost always pays cash you have an inordinate
>> frequency of debit card fails. You do realize you need money in the
>> account for it to work, right?
>
> I don't use the debit machine very often. I have also seen others
> have trouble with it.

Perhaps this is evidence that there should be a test before issuing a debit
card.


Gary

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May 17, 2012, 3:30:42 PM5/17/12
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I wish they had tested me. I've used one for years and only a few months
ago realized that carrying one in my wallet was a recipe for disaster....

Say your wallet is lost or stolen... Someone could use your credit card
unauthorized and you are only liable for $50. If they use your debit card,
they could clean out your entire bank account.

Stupidly, I've always known that they wouldn't know my pin number so it's
probably safe. Problem is....you can use the debit as a credit card too and
just sign for things rather than use the pin.

Gary the slow one.

Julie Bove

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May 17, 2012, 6:53:10 PM5/17/12
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The checker told me I had to press really hard or it wouldn't work. And I
don't think it takes a swipe. Otherwise why would they put the stylus on
there?


Julie Bove

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May 17, 2012, 6:53:55 PM5/17/12
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It's not remembering the PIN. What if someone says something to you or you
start to drop something or...?


Julie Bove

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May 17, 2012, 6:56:09 PM5/17/12
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said once in a while I use
the machine. Seeing as how I go to the store at least 7 times most weeks,
even if I used the machine every 7th time, I would still be paying cash
most of the time. Also the pharmacy I use has a PIN pad that you have to
use no matter how you are paying. You have to activate some things on the
screen and also sign it.


George M. Middius

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May 17, 2012, 8:21:21 PM5/17/12
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Julie Bove wrote:

> > Here's your first clue: DO NOT PRESS ON THE SCREEN! All it takes is
> > a very light swipe of your finger. Duh.
>
> The checker told me I had to press really hard or it wouldn't work.

Those screens detect heat, so you shouldn't have to press hard. You
may have to leave your finger on it for a couple seconds. Also, don't
wear gloves.

Jean B.

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May 17, 2012, 9:37:06 PM5/17/12
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:a1j1pn...@mid.individual.net...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a1itpn...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> My approach varies. Some stores seem to invite more wandering than
>>>> others. I especially like looking at the ethnic offerings. If I am
>>>> doing so in an Asian store, especially, there is always something
>>>> interesting that catches my eye. I have to remember to do this shop
>>>> crawling when I am with my friend who also likes to do that. My
>>>> daughter acts like she is being tortured.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and new stores are also fun.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, I detest clothes shopping. They could at least have left jeans
>>>> alone....
>>> Me too! Jeans are bad to shop for and bras can be really bad too. I
>>> actually have better luck with these things by shopping online at stores
>>> that give really good descriptions, measurements and have a size chart
>>> listed. Once in a while something won't fit me right or be flattering
>>> but I save a TON of time by shopping this way.
>>>
>>> I try to stay out of the clothing departments in stores. Once in a while
>>> I will venture by one, see something I like, only to find out that they
>>> do not have it in my size or the color that I want.
>> I was going to mention bras. Now that is one miserable shopping trip.
>> WHY is it that if you find a bra you can stand, it is discontinued, so you
>> have to go through the arduous process of finding a new one every time you
>> are in dire need? And do the stores REALLY expect me to totally disrobe
>> my top half, try on the few I am allowed, and then get dressed again to go
>> get a few more? I usually stick to the rules, but in this case, I will
>> take in as many bras as I can. And chances are, I still won't find one
>> that fits.
>
> Either that or they cheapen the bras! I wore Bali bras for years and would
> just mail order them.
>
> After we moved back here, I went to the movies with my parents and all of a
> sudden I had a letdown feeling!
>
> I dashed into the restroom only to discover that the ring holding my strap
> on was now made of thin, cheap plastic and it had broken! I managed to put
> it temporarily back in place and sat very still through the movie.
>
> We had other places to go after that so I really needed a bra. There was a
> J.C. Penny store near there. I don't normally shop at that store but I
> figured it was my best shot for a cheap bra, figuring that whatever I got
> wouldn't be something I liked but would get me through that one day.
>
> Luckily the bra that I bought did fit and I was amazed to see that it was
> high quality. So I bought some more online when I got home.
>
> The thing that really got me was the nasty comment that my dad made. I
> can't remember his exact words but something about why didn't I buy a good
> bra? Why was I wearing a cheap one that broke? The bra wasn't cheap (IMO).
> Not expensive like a Wacoal but it wasn't a Best Form either! And I had
> only had it for a few months.
>
>
That's a very short lifespan for such a thing. Bali used to have
a good reputation. I gather they are now unreliable. Oh, woe is
me. Maybe *I* should look at JC Penney's. This reminds me of
something that I discovered about clothes in general back in the
70s. When I first started working I went through a phase of
buying designer clothes. BUT they were not well made. The
more-normal offerings lasted MUCH longer. My theory was that
designer clothes were not supposed to be worn many times, let
alone for years, so they didn't have to be made to last. Maybe
there is something similar going on with undergarments?

--
Jean B.

Jean B.

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May 17, 2012, 9:38:29 PM5/17/12
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Pennyaline wrote:
> On 5/16/2012 6:59 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Jean B."<jb...@rcn.com> wrote
>>> I always pay cash. And if there is time, I have my money out. If there
>>> is even more time, I sort some change or calculate the sales tax and
>>> whether I want quarters back.
>>
>> I almost always pay cash. Once in a while the ATM machine will not be
>> working or it's an emergency purchase and I have to use my card.
>> Otherwise
>> I get the cash ready, including any change I might need. I am pretty
>> good
>> at figuring the total so can have about the right amount of cash ready to
>> pay.
>
>
> I'm pretty good at figuring out how much the grocery bill is going to
> run before I get to the checkout, but when I offer cash for payment the
> checkout girl/guy looks at me like I've got two heads. Just the other
> day I though one of them was going to call the manager on me because she
> couldn't get the correct change counted out and was getting all kinds of
> twisty about it. It's at times like those that the self-checkout lane
> has its advantages (it constantly yells at me to "Please take my items"
> while I count my change, double check my receipt and put my wallet away,
> but at least it doesn't throw canned goods on top of the bread out of
> spite)
>
>
Hehe re the two heads. I get some accusatory comments when I
overpay, having calculated change, like I haven't paid enough.

--
Jean B.
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May 18, 2012, 12:45:43 AM5/18/12
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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I've had a few designer things over the years. I didn't have any problems
with them.

I did notice that we sold some things at K Mart that were actually high
quality and Nordstrom sold the same things, but for less money! But K Mart
also sold some crappy items. Like baby sleep and play suits that shrank
and/or fell apart at the first washing. And cheap T-Shirts that became
disfigured after washing.


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May 18, 2012, 1:46:33 AM5/18/12
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> On 17 May 2012 16:43:27 GMT, KenK wrote:
>
>> The oranges I've been getting have thick skins. I did some weighing and
>> the removed skins weigh almost half the complete orage. At about $1 a
>> pound for oranges that's too much for peelings.
>
> There's nothing that says you can't peel the oranges before you get to
> the checkout. Some people rip the stems off of portabello mushrooms
> and peel the outer leaves off of cabbage. They even have a trashcan
> there for them. So why not peel the oranges, too?
>
> They even give out free orange peelers at my grocery store. I picked
> a couple up yesterday:
>
> http://i48.tinypic.com/23r2rrk.jpg
>
> So why put them there if they didn't want you to use them?

Hmmm... That's an interesting notion! I suppose it wouldn't matter if the
store charged per orange. But most charge per pound. Speaking of which...

My dad said he wouldn't buy groceries at Target because they charged per
piece for bananas. At 25 cents per banana, this didn't seem like a bad deal
to me. But then I noticed that Costco is selling them at 3 pounds for
$1.39. I won't buy bananas there any more though because we had fruit fly
issues with them. Plus it is just waaaay too many bananas for our
household.

Some stores have a bin so you can shuck your corn right there. I always
wondered why they did this. I don't like buying corn in the husk even
though I think it is better, flavorwise to keep it in the husk. I just
don't like worms. And twice I have brought home a worm in the husk.


Janet

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May 18, 2012, 6:02:50 AM5/18/12
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In article <jp3vi3$gff$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...

> What if someone says something to you or you
> start to drop something or...?

Surely an expert daily shopper experienced in such dramatic hazards at
the checkout, should easily be able to keep their razor mind and athletic
digits focussed on button pushing for just one more second.

Janet

spamtrap1888

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May 18, 2012, 11:02:18 AM5/18/12
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Sara Lee Corporation spun off their Bali-owning underwear unit,
Hanesbrands, in 2006. Maybe the product line was cheapened under the
new management?

Nunya Bidnits

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May 18, 2012, 12:06:57 PM5/18/12
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Most people know to carry a small ball peen hammer for touchpad inputs.

Nancy2

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May 18, 2012, 12:13:05 PM5/18/12
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On May 17, 12:47 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
That's a good idea - after that, a memory test to find out how much
you remember about which store has which kind of machine (what button
do you press to make it a "credit" instead of a "debit?" LOL. My
card works both ways.

At the local gas stations, I always say "credit," in case one of those
robbing number scammers is hooked up where I can't see it. At most of
the local places, I use "debit."

N.

Nancy2

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May 18, 2012, 12:13:58 PM5/18/12
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You don't have to poke hard with the stylus, either. I've had
cashiers tell me just the opposite (and I could demonstrate swipe
success to you time after time).

N.

KenK

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May 18, 2012, 12:28:43 PM5/18/12
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Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in news:1vvp2natotd9d
$.d...@sqwertz.com:

> On 17 May 2012 16:43:27 GMT, KenK wrote:
>
>> The oranges I've been getting have thick skins. I did some weighing
and
>> the removed skins weigh almost half the complete orage. At about $1 a
>> pound for oranges that's too much for peelings.
>
> There's nothing that says you can't peel the oranges before you get to
> the checkout. Some people rip the stems off of portabello mushrooms
> and peel the outer leaves off of cabbage. They even have a trashcan
> there for them. So why not peel the oranges, too?
>
> They even give out free orange peelers at my grocery store. I picked
> a couple up yesterday:
>
> http://i48.tinypic.com/23r2rrk.jpg
>
> So why put them there if they didn't want you to use them?
>
> -sw

The oranges I usually get come in a bag and the price is per 4# bag.

I've never noticed any orange peelers there. I've never heard of peeling
oranges - or any other fruit for that matter - before purchasing. Sounds
quite unsanitary to me; but what do I know?

Janet

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May 18, 2012, 2:04:02 PM5/18/12
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In article <jp5s35$34p$1...@dont-email.me>, nunyabidnits@eternal-
september.invalid says...
Not if they have allergies to hammers. Best get your hair analysed
first.

Janet

Kalmia

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May 18, 2012, 2:23:51 PM5/18/12
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On May 16, 12:56 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:

>

and
> won't even tear the check out and present it until after they have entered
> the amount on the ledger and calculated their new balance.

This is a new one on me. Maybe they are too cheap to get those
checks with the tissue....

Kalmia

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May 18, 2012, 2:27:56 PM5/18/12
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On May 17, 6:53 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> Kalmia wrote:
> > On May 16, 11:12 pm, "JulieBove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:4fb45e71$0$28721$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com...
>
> >>> On 5/16/2012 7:28 PM, Janet wrote:
> >>>> In article<jp1as4$qu...@dont-email.me>, julieb...@frontier.com
> >>>> says...
>
> >>>>> "Nunya Bidnits"<nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in
> >>>>> message
> >>>>>news:jp19tf$lcu$1...@dont-email.me...
> > I guess LaBoveis the only person who has a sea of troubles.....
>
> It's not remembering the PIN.  What if someone says something to you or you
> start to drop something or...?

Oh, come ON. What if an atom bomb falls?
Can't chew gum and cross the street? Can't hear and enter four
friggin numbers? OH, I know -your PIN is 46 digits.

I'm sure you will have a retort we're all dyin' to hear..

Gary

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May 18, 2012, 3:50:54 PM5/18/12
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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 15:30:42 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
> > Say your wallet is lost or stolen... Someone could use your credit card
> > unauthorized and you are only liable for $50. If they use your debit card,
> > they could clean out your entire bank account.
>
> That's old information. Visa and Mastercard have limited debit card
> liability to $50. I don't think that applies to ATM withdrawals and
> "cash back" since that's between you and your bank (but somebody would
> have to have your PIN to rip you off that way).
>
> Even under the old rules, the limit was $50 unless you waited more
> than 2 days to notify your bank. I would know if I lost my wallet
> within 2 days unless I was physically disabled (in which case that is
> a defense).
>
> Getting the charges reversed WILL take longer with a debit card.
> Whereas with a credit card you're disputing an amount you haven't yet
> paid. So you're not out that money... yet.
>
> -sw

I'll have to check in to this more, Steve. A store owner told me yesterday
that, yes, someone could clean out your bank account and no reimbursment for
a debit card. I know about the credit card $50 limit. According to him,
that does not apply to debit cards.

I plan to check with my bank about this (Wells Fargo). I wouldn't be
surprised to find out that there is no safety there. Not even a 2-day
notification period.

Forget the PIN number safety zone too. Debit cards can also be used as
credit cards in many stores. Some stores ONLY treat them as credit,
ie...you sign the receipt instead of entering a pin number. Someone won't
be able to get cash from your debit card without the pin number but they can
very well go on a shopping spree for goods.

If this "scare" turns out to be true, Gary will stop carrying his debit card
in wallet and only take it out when he plans a trip to use it.

:-O

PS - everyone here should ask their bank about this as some banks might have
different policies.

Gary

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May 18, 2012, 4:38:27 PM5/18/12
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KenK wrote:
>

> I've never heard of peeling
> oranges - or any other fruit for that matter - before purchasing. Sounds
> quite unsanitary to me; but what do I know?

That's pretty wierd. I can't imagine any grocery store allowing that. I
suspect Stevo stayed up way too late when he wrote that. ;)

Gary

Janet

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May 18, 2012, 7:20:06 PM5/18/12
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In article <4FB6A81E...@att.net>, g.ma...@att.net says...
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 15:30:42 -0400, Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Say your wallet is lost or stolen... Someone could use your credit card
> > > unauthorized and you are only liable for $50. If they use your debit card,
> > > they could clean out your entire bank account.
> >
> > That's old information. Visa and Mastercard have limited debit card
> > liability to $50. I don't think that applies to ATM withdrawals and
> > "cash back" since that's between you and your bank (but somebody would
> > have to have your PIN to rip you off that way).
> >
> > Even under the old rules, the limit was $50 unless you waited more
> > than 2 days to notify your bank. I would know if I lost my wallet
> > within 2 days unless I was physically disabled (in which case that is
> > a defense).
> >
> > Getting the charges reversed WILL take longer with a debit card.
> > Whereas with a credit card you're disputing an amount you haven't yet
> > paid. So you're not out that money... yet.
> >
> > -sw
>
> I'll have to check in to this more, Steve. A store owner told me yesterday
> that, yes, someone could clean out your bank account and no reimbursment for
> a debit card. I know about the credit card $50 limit. According to him,
> that does not apply to debit cards.

In the UK, fraudulent use of both debit and credit cards is fully
protected by the issuing bank or company.


> Forget the PIN number safety zone too. Debit cards can also be used as
> credit cards in many stores.

Not in the UK; without the PIN it's impossible to use debit or credit
cards in any machine or store transaction.

Janet.

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Ed Pawlowski

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May 18, 2012, 11:03:54 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 15:50:54 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:



>
>I'll have to check in to this more, Steve. A store owner told me yesterday
>that, yes, someone could clean out your bank account and no reimbursment for
>a debit card. I know about the credit card $50 limit. According to him,
>that does not apply to debit cards.
>
>I plan to check with my bank about this (Wells Fargo). I wouldn't be
>surprised to find out that there is no safety there. Not even a 2-day
>notification period.

My bank makes it a point to tell you the protections for the debit
card are the same as the credit. Years ago it was different, but they
have to complete if they want them used.

Polly Esther

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May 18, 2012, 11:35:10 PM5/18/12
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Meanwhile, back to shopping fast and entering numbers, our local gas
stations have started requiring that you enter your zip code. Something
about preventing using stolen cards I'm guessing. Fortunately, I was with
Mr. Esther the first time he encountered that requirement. He didn't know
his zip code. Never has known. Doesn't care. Says he's never needed to send
himself a letter. Polly Esther

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