Food to hoard
Gill Smith
hoarding?
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Edwin Pawlowski
"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> hoarding?
>
>
Beans. They provide fuel also. Couple of bean meals and the methane will
keep the oven going long enough to make a roast.
Omelet
"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> hoarding?
Canned and dried.
Stock up on firewood too and learn to cook outdoors. ;-)
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--Om
"He who has the guns can get the gold."
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Omelet
"Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
<snicker>
MaryL
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Dried beans and lentils. And peanut butter.
MaryL
Sheldon
>
> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what
> foods should we start hoarding?
SPAM!
cybercat
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MaryL
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Those would have been on my grandparents' list many years ago -- they lived
in Ohio, old frame house with dark root cellar. Definitely would not work
for me -- one-story house on a concrete slab in hot climate (East Texas).
:o(
MaryL
Curt Nelson
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> hoarding?
I keep a few cases of MRE's on hand, mainly because I like to play with my
food.
Hasta,
Curt Nelson
Kathleen
> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> hoarding?
Diamond Adult Premium Dog Food. Flyball dogs give it three paws up.
Goomba
> I keep a few cases of MRE's on hand, mainly because I like to play with my
> food.
>
> Hasta,
> Curt Nelson
MREs aren't cheap! I don't buy them but have seen the cost for the
civilian version. But they sure do serve a useful purpose. I have to eat
them when deployed at times, and the jalapeno cheese spread eaten right
out of the packet is the bomb! I'm impressed with the spiciness of them
these days. I do lean towards the vegetarian meals, but MRE Etiquette
decrees that you just grab one out of the communal box and take your
chances.
jmcquown
You're in the military? I thought it was your husband who was enlisted.
Not that it matters :)
Jill
Dan Abel
"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> hoarding?
I was just outside a little while ago, and saw no sign of the sky
falling. People may not have money to buy the nicer things in life, but
I don't see anybody at risk of starving. Much of the food in the US is
used for animal feed. Perhaps fewer animals will be grown for food, and
there will be that much more food for people.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
Jeßus
> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> hoarding?
None. Develop Anorexia Nervosa instead... its time has come.
Lynn from Fargo
Staples like truffles, saffron, caviar and fois gras.
Lynn in Fargo
zxcvbob
Coffee, cigarettes, and .22LR ammunition. (Useful in their own rights,
and as alternate currencies)
Bob
Gregory Morrow
Dan Abel wrote:
Yup, this current media hysteria about the banks and the market and such is
just that - hysteria. You'd think that it was 1929 again with all the
natterers going on about the sitch 24/7. I've seen *much* worse in my
lifetime, and I'm a young 'un relatively speaking (I'm 50). We've had
terrible energy shocks in the 70's, stagflation with an economy basically
dead in the water in the Ford - Carter years, double - digit virtually
Depression - era unemployment in the early 80's...
The market goes up, the market goes down. People with NO means made stoopid
"decisions" in buying real estate, people live *way* beyond any reasonable
means with credit cards, etc. A lot of the current hoo - ha IMNSHO is
because there is now an entitlement mentality among many; there are NO
guarantees and nobody *ever* said it was gonna be "easy"...now many want not
just a bail - out to weather the tougher times, they want a free *hand -
out*. Hey, I'd like some free dough for my DVD 'habit' and to help with my
bar tab, maybe I should just ask!
95% of mortgage holders are still current, the vast majority of folks are
still gainfully employed...and those are the people who will in the long run
be paying the way of the deadbeats who were wrongfully given mortgages with
bad credit, no money down, no understanding of the terms, etc...
And "food to hoard"? Ya gotta be *kidding*, food in the US is cheaper and
more available than at *any* time anywheres in history. Otherwise what
accounts for the huge amount of obesity in this country, *especially* among
the poor...a time traveler from a century ago - or even from 1940 - would be
pretty amazed to be set down in a ghetto or barrio or rural trailer park and
told that those people are "poor".
--
Best
Greg
Gill Smith
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Add razor to the list of essentials.
I've long lived with an attache case containing important documents which I
can grab in an emergency.
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But economies can and do implode.
Argentina is the most recent spectacular example.
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Uuurg!
I tried to figure out what makes this so unappetising.
Apart from its associations with institutions, it's the size of the slabs.
The actual 'meat' is probably little diifferent from tinned hot dogs.
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Goomba
> Goomba wrote:
>> MREs aren't cheap! I don't buy them but have seen the cost for the
>> civilian version. But they sure do serve a useful purpose. I have to
>> eat them when deployed at times, and the jalapeno cheese spread eaten
>> right out of the packet is the bomb! I'm impressed with the spiciness
>> of them these days. I do lean towards the vegetarian meals, but MRE
>> Etiquette decrees that you just grab one out of the communal box and
>> take your chances.
>
>
> You're in the military?
I am an intermittent federal employee providing disaster care.
Dan Abel
<fb7ca345-982f-4a45...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
You forgot the French Champagne! How could you make it without that?
Edwin Pawlowski
>
> I've long lived with an attache case containing important documents which
> I
> can grab in an emergency.
>
Documents, such as those pieces of paper with photos of Lincoln, Franklin,
Jackson?
I can get by without a razor but T Tissue would be nice to have.
bulka
When it hits, I hope I can hang with Lynne and Bob. I'll bring the
eggplant chutney, or whatever this is I'm making today. And maybe the
pear wine experiment will work.
bulka
Wayne Boatwright
> "MaryL" <stan...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> news:48ea2488$0$5498
> $bbae...@news.suddenlink.net: in rec.food.cooking
> I wonder if neighborhood children can be freeze dried and stored ;-o)
>
> Michael
Permanently? <wishful thinking>
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Sheldon
> "Gill Smith" wrote:
>
> > Add razor to the list of essentials.
>
> > I've long lived with an attache case containing
> > important documents which I
> > can grab in an emergency.
>
> Documents, such as those pieces of paper with
> photos of Lincoln, Franklin, Jackson?
>
> I can get by without a razor but T Tissue would be
> nice to have.
With the way things are going you can use those
Lincolns, Franklins, and Jacksons.
kilikini
> On Tue 07 Oct 2008 04:58:24a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>
> Permanently? <wishful thinking>
I'm with you two on that one!!!!!!!!!
kili
Lynn from Fargo
> In article
> <fb7ca345-982f-4a45-b759-44c6ae9a0...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> Lynn from Fargo <lynng...@i29.net> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 6, 6:40 am, "Gill Smith" <gill.smith....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> > > hoarding?
>
> > > >>>>>>>>>---------------------<<<<<<<<<
>
> > > http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>
> > > >>>>>>>>>---------------------<<<<<<<<<
>
> > Staples like truffles, saffron, caviar and fois gras.
>
> You forgot the French Champagne! How could you make it without that?
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
> da...@sonic.net
I'm not supposed to drink alcohol ;-)
Lynn
Lynn from Fargo
You could come to my fallout shelter (if I had one)
Lynn
Wayne Boatwright
LOL! Thanks!
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Omelet
"Curt Nelson" <quo...@mail.com> wrote:
FEMA was handing out MRE's in Galveston and Houston after Ike. I was in
phone contact with a resident down there that rode out the storm.
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"He who has the gold makes the rules"
--Om
"He who has the guns can get the gold."
-- Steve Rothstein
Omelet
<fb7ca345-982f-4a45...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Lynn from Fargo <lynn...@i29.net> wrote:
And Champagne.<g>
Omelet
Omelet
"Michael \"Dog3\"" <uh...@default.web> wrote:
> "MaryL" <stan...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> news:48ea2488$0$5498
> $bbae...@news.suddenlink.net: in rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:5Padnbgab5TKZHTV...@posted.plusnet...
> >> Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we start
> >> hoarding?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>---------------------<<<<<<<<<
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>---------------------<<<<<<<<<
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Dried beans and lentils. And peanut butter.
> >
> > MaryL
>
> I wonder if neighborhood children can be freeze dried and stored ;-o)
>
> Michael
Only the feral ones.
Omelet
<f7322f53-7c24-4af0...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> wrote:
<lol> Okay, that was funny.
Gill Smith
news:ompomelet-9A782...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <f7322f53-7c24-4af0...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
>> > "Gill Smith" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Add razor to the list of essentials.
>> >
>> > > I've long lived with an attache case containing
>> > > important documents which I
>> > > can grab in an emergency.
>> >
>> > Documents, such as those pieces of paper with
>> > photos of Lincoln, Franklin, Jackson?
>> >
>> > I can get by without a razor but T Tissue would be
>> > nice to have.
>>
>> With the way things are going you can use those
>> Lincolns, Franklins, and Jacksons.
>
> <lol> Okay, that was funny.
Penny just dropped..... it was your finding it funny did the trick.
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Omelet
"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-9A782...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article
> > <f7322f53-7c24-4af0...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
> >> > "Gill Smith" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Add razor to the list of essentials.
> >> >
> >> > > I've long lived with an attache case containing
> >> > > important documents which I
> >> > > can grab in an emergency.
> >> >
> >> > Documents, such as those pieces of paper with
> >> > photos of Lincoln, Franklin, Jackson?
> >> >
> >> > I can get by without a razor but T Tissue would be
> >> > nice to have.
> >>
> >> With the way things are going you can use those
> >> Lincolns, Franklins, and Jacksons.
> >
> > <lol> Okay, that was funny.
>
> Penny just dropped..... it was your finding it funny did the trick.
I often find Irony to be the best humor of all...
blake murphy
maybe we could send michael a few bucks for R & D.
your pal,
blake
Lou Decruss
<zklm...@zsnssss.jp> wrote:
>And "food to hoard"? Ya gotta be *kidding*, food in the US is cheaper and
>more available than at *any* time anywheres in history.
The problem is there is to MUCH food. Which is why the US government
subsidizes almost a buck per bushel of corn. Then the stuff rots or
is made into something else that we really don't need but the big food
giants can get rich on.
>Otherwise what
>accounts for the huge amount of obesity in this country, *especially* among
>the poor...a time traveler from a century ago - or even from 1940 - would be
>pretty amazed to be set down in a ghetto or barrio or rural trailer park and
>told that those people are "poor".
I'm about halfway through reading "BUILDING HOUSES OUT OF CHICKEN LEGS
Black Women, Food, and Power." The black ladies in the book would
be amazed that people get money for food without doing anything for
it. The article that Dog 3 seemed to be leaning in the direction
that the people weren't getting enough. If I were to need food stamps
I'd be glad for anything I could get rather than bitching I wasn't
getting enough.
So far this is a great book:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/books/review/Lee2.t.html?emc=eta1
Lou
Jeßus
>
> Jeßus wrote:
>> Gill Smith wrote:
>>> hoarding?
>>
>
> Coffee, cigarettes, and .22LR ammunition. (Useful in their own rights,
> and as alternate currencies)
Coffee and .22 ammo are staples here as well.
Cigarettes OTOH I can do without :)
But back to the topic... this qualifies as 'hoarding' I guess-
Make a 'root cellar' using an old freezer too store root veggies, apples
etc: www.ehow.com/how_5806_make-deep-freeze.html
Gregory Morrow
Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:06:24 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> <zklm...@zsnssss.jp> wrote:
>
>
> >And "food to hoard"? Ya gotta be *kidding*, food in the US is cheaper
and
> >more available than at *any* time anywheres in history.
>
> The problem is there is to MUCH food. Which is why the US government
> subsidizes almost a buck per bushel of corn. Then the stuff rots or
> is made into something else that we really don't need but the big food
> giants can get rich on.
>
> >Otherwise what
> >accounts for the huge amount of obesity in this country, *especially*
among
> >the poor...a time traveler from a century ago - or even from 1940 - would
be
> >pretty amazed to be set down in a ghetto or barrio or rural trailer park
and
> >told that those people are "poor".
>
> I'm about halfway through reading "BUILDING HOUSES OUT OF CHICKEN LEGS
> Black Women, Food, and Power." The black ladies in the book would
> be amazed that people get money for food without doing anything for
> it.
They surely had "moxie" - and they also didn't have much in the way of
choices...they had to depend on themselves.
The article that Dog 3 seemed to be leaning in the direction
> that the people weren't getting enough. If I were to need food stamps
> I'd be glad for anything I could get rather than bitching I wasn't
> getting enough.
Same here...
> So far this is a great book:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/books/review/Lee2.t.html?emc=eta1
>
The Salt Lake City resto mentioned - the Coon Chicken Inn - was featured in
the alternate history "mockumentary" _The Confederate States of America_
that ocassionally plays on cable...
--
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Greg
Gill Smith
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That's what annoys me about the welfare state: wholesale encouragement
of fecklessness.
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"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> That's what annoys me about the welfare state: wholesale encouragement
> of fecklessness.
Welfare is a safety net. It is not designed to encourage people to be
deadbeats. A lot of people have spent a lot of time and energy trying
to figure out ways to make it strictly a safety net. It cannot be done,
without spending more money than it would cost just to hand it out to
everyone who meets certain qualifications. In addition, in California,
where I live, almost all "welfare" is AFDC (Aid to Families with
Dependent Children). In other words, you can only get "welfare" for the
children. Obviously, they give the money to the parent(s), since
children are not competent to manage the money. Whether it actually
gets used only for the children is impossible to determine. There is
some "welfare" for adults, like food stamps. I believe that there are
other programs designed to make adults more employable.
Gill Smith
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In the UK you can get a nice comfy cosy lifestyle out of welfare.
If the middle classes really new whta was going down, there'd be a
revolution.
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"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> hoarding?
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>
>
Check with a Mormon waiting for the time of Tribulation.
Dimitri
Dan Goodman
>
> "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:5Padnbgab5TKZHTV...@posted.plusnet...
> > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
cook.
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Dan Goodman wrote:
> Dimitri wrote:
>
> >
> > "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:5Padnbgab5TKZHTV...@posted.plusnet...
> > > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
>
> Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
> about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
> were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
> cook.
IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in Mesopotamia,
etc., they are thousands of years old. They've been found to be not only
cookable, but even sproutable. Same for yeast found in urns that held
beer/mead - like beverages, the yeast was still usuable...
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Blinky the Shark
> IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in Mesopotamia,
> etc., they are thousands of years old.
Well, you'd be dry too, after thousands of years in that climate.
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> Dimitri wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5Padnbgab5TKZHTV...@posted.plusnet...
>> > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
>
> Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
> about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
> were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
> cook.
What's the booze that lasts forever?
Begins with M.
Madeira?
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Omelet
"Dan Goodman" <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Dimitri wrote:
>
> >
> > "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:5Padnbgab5TKZHTV...@posted.plusnet...
> > > Seeing money's about to become worthless, what foods should we
>
> Dried beans last a long time. Back when misc.survivalism was actually
> about survivalism, someone there wrote about cooking dried beans which
> were about ten years past their pull date. They took a _long_ time to
> cook.
This is why soaking works...
Iirc, there were some 1,200 year old beans from an Aztec tomb that some
college students were able to germinate?
Michael O'Connor
some sort of SHTF (fertilizer hits the oscillator) crisis like we may
be looking at now or in case I find myself unemployed. Now I have
about 15 plastic milk crates in my spare bedroom filled with canned
food, rice, dry beans, flour, bottled water, powdered milk, etc. I
also purchased a deep freezer and have that filled with meat and
leftovers. For about four months I made two shopping trips a week
instead of one, which allowed me to quickly build up a food supply.
I've been looking at websites such as beprepared.com and purchasing
some freeze-dried foods to increase my food supply even further. I
have to keep track of the dates on things and rotate the stock so
nothing goes bad. Some items such as mayonnaise don't store well, and
one has to be careful about the shelf life of foods..I've found that I
sleep much better at night not worrying about what happens to me if I
lose my job or if there is some sort of economic crisis and the food
supply is disrupted.
JonquilJan
get around very much for not only days but weeks at a time. Being of a self
sufficient bent (and stubborn) I tend to have a great deal of food stock on
hand. I also stock water, on a rotating basis - using empty 2 liter soda
(actually seltzer) bottles which get refilled and rotated once a week (have
22 - 2 in use)
Dry beans, rice (brown), couscous, bulgur, corn grits (polenta), dried fruit
(apricots, raisins, cherries, cranberries, apples) canned veggies (lots of
tomatoes and green beans and an assortment of other items). I go light on
canned soups becuase of the salt content. Have an assortment of dry soup
mixes. Lots of tea - almost all herbal or green - shelf stable tofu - a
good assortment of herbs and spices - especially pepper - black, lemon,
garlic flavored. Pastas and noodles - but not Ramen (too salty and goes
rancid easily). Oils (canola and olive), Bottled juices. Some nuts -
cashews and walnuts. Some seeds - pumpkin and sunflower. Oatmeal, some dry
cereal and granola, farina. Soy milk. Flour and other needs for baking
bread.
Now all of this is to my personal tastes and needs. Big item - do NOT
stock/hoard items you don't regularly eat and DO rotate your stock. Unless
you are hoarding in anticipation of trading. For that - salt, pepper and
spices probably take up the least space and are the lightest.
My dream - to get a few chickens.
JonquilJan
Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
Wayne Boatwright
Jan, it sounds like you have a *very* well stocked pantry!
Not that it's any of my business, but being disabled, wouldn't that make it
difficult to take care of some chickens?
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Which is why I don't have any. My disability problems are gradually
increasing. I did manage to have a small garden (mostly for greens) this
summer - for the first time in many years. My home includes 5 acres of
mostly scrub and grass - which is enjoyed by wild turkeys, deer, rabbits,
pheasants - and I am frequently visited by raccoons, opossums and skunks. I
used to have a huge garden - and preserved and prepared a LOT of produce.
Much of my stock comes through a food buying cooperative - I used to be the
director of a local one (retired from that and no one picked up the
responsibility) but now am just a 'worker bee' in one a bit further south
(12 miles). Because of age related allergy and digestive problems - much of
my stock is organic. (I will be 70 my next birthday).
Wayne Boatwright
Where you live sounds idyllic! Unfortunately, I don't have the energy,
time, or ideal climate to have a garden. I live in a desert area, so
gardening isn't easy. I also have some back problems and minor coronary
issues.
> Much of my stock comes through a food buying cooperative - I used to be
> the director of a local one (retired from that and no one picked up the
> responsibility) but now am just a 'worker bee' in one a bit further
> south (12 miles). Because of age related allergy and digestive problems
> - much of my stock is organic. (I will be 70 my next birthday).
I'll be 64 in January, but I've already discovered it's hell getting older,
but luckily, I have no known allergies or digestive problems - yet. :-) I
hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
--
Wayne Boatwright
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trade--learn the trade.
JonquilJan
>
> Where you live sounds idyllic! Unfortunately, I don't have the energy,
> time, or ideal climate to have a garden. I live in a desert area, so
> gardening isn't easy. I also have some back problems and minor coronary
> issues.
>
I live in northern New York state - lots of dairy farming in my area.
Winters are hard and cold and long - and summers are tolerable (I have
problems with heat). I live on what was geologically the ancient eastern
edge of Lake Ontario and the soil is a magnificent sandy loam. Wish I could
garen more.
Wayne Boatwright
>
>
>>
>> Where you live sounds idyllic! Unfortunately, I don't have the energy,
>> time, or ideal climate to have a garden. I live in a desert area, so
>> gardening isn't easy. I also have some back problems and minor
>> coronary issues.
>>
>
> I live in northern New York state - lots of dairy farming in my area.
> Winters are hard and cold and long - and summers are tolerable (I have
> problems with heat). I live on what was geologically the ancient
> eastern edge of Lake Ontario and the soil is a magnificent sandy loam.
> Wish I could garen more.
>
> JonquilJan
That's a beautiful area, climate included (for the most part). I lived
most of my life in NE Ohio and frequently was in PA and NY State.
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People are always available for work
in the past tense.
Gregory Morrow
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in
Mesopotamia,
> > etc., they are thousands of years old.
>
> Well, you'd be dry too, after thousands of years in that climate.
>
The "life force" is an *amazing* thing...
[===>>> currently watching _Earth vs. The Flying Saucers_...]
--
Best
Greg
Omelet
Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 04:14:47p, JonquilJan told us...
>
> > My dream - to get a few chickens.
> >
> > JonquilJan
>
> Jan, it sounds like you have a *very* well stocked pantry!
>
> Not that it's any of my business, but being disabled, wouldn't that make it
> difficult to take care of some chickens?
Depending on how you keep them, (and your local predator population),
chickens can pretty much take care of themselves if you get the right
breed.
Omelet
Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> I
> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
Omelet
"Gregory Morrow" <xxxa...@xxikkkix.be> wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> > Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC there have been dried beans found in archeological digs in
> Mesopotamia,
> > > etc., they are thousands of years old.
> >
> > Well, you'd be dry too, after thousands of years in that climate.
> >
>
>
> The "life force" is an *amazing* thing...
As are seeds. :-) That little miracle is something I've always enjoyed.
That and eggs. I used to really enjoy hatching poultry when I kept them.
Wayne Boatwright
> In article <Xns9B34B2A4E5281wa...@69.16.185.247>,
> Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I
>> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
>
> Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
> feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.
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Omelet
Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...
>
> > In article <Xns9B34B2A4E5281wa...@69.16.185.247>,
> > Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I
> >> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
> >
> > Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
> > feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
>
> Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.
Oops, sorry.
No investments or pension plans?
Granted, I do intend to do some part time teaching to supplement a
retirement income, but I don't want to work full time past 60 if I can
afford it.
Granted, a lot of that plan will depend on inflation...
Wayne Boatwright
> In article <Xns9B34E95CE74DDwa...@69.16.185.250>,
> Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...
>>
>> > In article <Xns9B34B2A4E5281wa...@69.16.185.247>,
>> > Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I
>> >> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
>> >
>> > Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
>> > feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
>>
>> Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.
>
> Oops, sorry.
> No investments or pension plans?
No pension plan. Significant investments went out the window after 9/11
and the dot.com meltdown. I don't make enough to put money aside for
retirement. I hope to do that when I start drawing SS at 65 and continue
drawing a full salary.
> Granted, I do intend to do some part time teaching to supplement a
> retirement income, but I don't want to work full time past 60 if I can
> afford it.
>
> Granted, a lot of that plan will depend on inflation...
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Wayne Boatwright
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their own species.
Omelet
Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 11:16:39p, Omelet told us...
>
> > In article <Xns9B34E95CE74DDwa...@69.16.185.250>,
> > Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat 11 Oct 2008 10:50:13p, Omelet told us...
> >>
> >> > In article <Xns9B34B2A4E5281wa...@69.16.185.247>,
> >> > Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I
> >> >> hope I can continue to work full time until I'm at least 70.
> >> >
> >> > Good gods why??? I plan to retire as soon as it's economically
> >> > feasible. I have plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. <g>
> >>
> >> Because it won't be economically feasible until then, if then.
> >
> > Oops, sorry.
> > No investments or pension plans?
>
> No pension plan. Significant investments went out the window after 9/11
> and the dot.com meltdown. I don't make enough to put money aside for
> retirement. I hope to do that when I start drawing SS at 65 and continue
> drawing a full salary.
I'm glad I went with mutual funds... :-(