In a bowl, mix:
2 cups Bisquick
1 cup sugar (less if desired)
1/2 cup plus 2 T. yellow cornmeal
1 tsp. baking soda
1 cup milk
2 eggs
Pour batter into pan on top of butter, but do not stir. Bake at 350
degrees for 25 to 30 min. or till lightly golden. Cut into squares.
Optional: For a spicier twist, decrease sugar to 1/2 cup and add a
tablespoon or so of minced fresh jalapeno pepper.
Just take your basic back of the bag cornbread recipe and add 6
Tablespoons (more or less to taste) of sugar to it. Yum. Eat hot
with lots of butter.
:-)~~~~~ drooling
Lara
>I've always loved the cornbread made by Jiffy because it tastes sweeter
>than most recipes. Does anyone have a recipe like this?
You must be a yankee....because I love sweet cornbread also. Jiffy is the
best...but after moving to the south, I was highly reprimanded for putting sugar
in cornbread. Down here...they think you are crazy.
I use White Lily Cornmeal Mix and add my own sugar. No one likes it except me.
bra...@knox.mindspring.com
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>>I've always loved the cornbread made by Jiffy because it tastes sweeter
>>than most recipes.
I made some today and it was yummy. I changed it a bit. adding half a can
of
drained tuna and an egg white. Yummmmmmmm
Lei
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> pau...@nyc.pipeline.com(Paula Elberhoumi) wrote:
>
> >I've always loved the cornbread made by Jiffy because it tastes sweeter
>Yankee Cornbread
>I call this "yankee" because it is much moister and sweeter than
>traditional Southern cornbread.
<SNIP>
>In a bowl, mix:
>2 cups Bisquick
>1 cup sugar (less if desired)
>1/2 cup plus 2 T. yellow cornmeal
>1 tsp. baking soda
>1 cup milk
>2 eggs
At two cups of Bisquick to less than two thirds cup of cornmeal I beg to differ
about giving it the name of "cornbread". You could perhaps call it
corn-flavored bread, but cornbread it ain't, sugar or no (grin).
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Rideo Ergo Sum
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>pau...@nyc.pipeline.com(Paula Elberhoumi) wrote:
>>I've always loved the cornbread made by Jiffy because it tastes sweeter
>>than most recipes. Does anyone have a recipe like this?
>You must be a yankee....because I love sweet cornbread also. Jiffy is the
>best...but after moving to the south, I was highly reprimanded for putting sugar
>in cornbread. Down here...they think you are crazy.
>I use White Lily Cornmeal Mix and add my own sugar. No one likes it except me.
Putting sugar in the cornbread is one of the secondary tests we use in
determining whether or not a person is a Yankee. The primary test is, of
course, whether or not they put sugar on their grits (grin)! If they don't like
grits we deport them.
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Carol T.
> >>I've always loved the cornbread made by Jiffy because it tastes
sweeter
> >>than most recipes. Does anyone have a recipe like this?
>
>
> >You must be a yankee....because I love sweet cornbread also. Jiffy is
the
> >best...but after moving to the south, I was highly reprimanded for
putting sugar
> >in cornbread. Down here...they think you are crazy.
>
>
I have trouble believing that you are a true Yankee. Any true
Yankee HATES grits.
Of course, you come from West Virginia.
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Any TRUE Yankee has no idea what grits even are! ;D
Oddly...@aol.com
aka LJ Colten-Smith
"It's really all quite
beyond my control, you see"
Now wait just a darn minute! I'm from Connecticut (and Yankee to the
bone) and grits is the only thing I really like about Southern food.
(with butter, salt, and pepper)
pax, arl
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: I have trouble believing that you are a true Yankee. Any true
: Yankee HATES grits.
Good God. Then I, a born-and-bred Noo Yawkah immigrant-kid (whose family
hails from the sunny isle of Jamaica), who once punched someone for
saying, "The War of Northern Aggression", am not a true Yankee.
Well, I guess I'll still eat my grits with sugar and milk. *smile*
Ny
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>
>>>I have trouble believing that you are a true Yankee. Any true
>>>Yankee HATES grits.
Some of us ture mouintaineers re: "hillbillies" hate grits. Does
that mean I am going to be shipped out of the mountains?
Jackee
Ralph
True Grits
;-) all in good fun!!!! some of my own relatives live in Vermont (but we
don't speak of them!)
Hee, hee!
Awwrite....all yew Yankees. I am a by-God-Southerner and am willing to
make a peace offering here:
Garlic Cheese Grits
grits
Worchestershire sauce
Tabasco sauce
1 tube Kraft Garlic cheese, at least at room temperature
1 lightly beaten egg
Cook grits as directed for four persons (no, you cannot, repeat, cannot
use instant grits. Quaker quick grits are the only acceptable
shortcut.)
In the cooking water add:
10 dashes Worchestershire
10 dashes Tabasco
Once cooked, add a little of the hot grits to the egg and blend, then
add the egg back to the pot.
Add cheese and mix well.
Pour into a casserole dish (coated with cooking spray) and bake at 350
degrees for 30 minutes or until top is nicely browned.
These are melt in your mouth, but not nearly as good as
shrimp-and-grits. This is white cheddar grits topped with sauteed
shrimp/bacon/green onions. It'll make your tongue slap your brains out.
Now y'all behave.
JB
i shall now share a few truths about grits!!!
1. the Nora Mill Granary in Georgia sells the best
grits in the world (dixie ice-cream speckled grits --
medium ground, absolute heaven!!!!!!!)
2. grits should never be runny. runny -- bad, not
runny -- gooooood!
3. grits may be eaten with any of the following as
flavoring:
-- salt
-- pepper
-- garlic
-- butter
-- extra sharp cheddar
-- boursin
-- some other favorite savory cheese.
please note: there is NO sugar, cream, honey, maple syrup or
anything remotely similar on this list!!!
elaine -- who needs to make a call to georgia this week!
Of course my favorite is fried grits. I'm not sure
if this is considered legal grits eating or not...
To make fried grits:
Cook up a batch of grits
Pour into a loaf pan and put in the fridge
The next day, slice the grits 1/4 to 1/2 inch
thick. flour and fry. serve with butter...
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> I have trouble believing that you are a true Yankee. Any true
> Yankee HATES grits.
Oddly Enough wrote:
>Any TRUE Yankee has no idea what grits even are! ;D
Well, I'm here to tell you you're BOTH wrong. I'm a born and bred Rhod
Island Yankee, will die a born and bred Rhode Island Yankee, but I live in
Virginia and I've eaten grits for 20 years and I LOVE them. With pepper &
butter only, thank you.
I will also tell a short story. Many, many moons ago, I drove down to FL
w/3 friends from RI. None of us had ever spent time out of New England,
but one guy threw an absolute HISSY FIT when we pulled up to a restaurant
one morning and they didn't have any grits (I think we were in South
Carolina). He sat in the car and sulked and wouldn't eat anything. So,
altho we're from the side that WON, we'll still eat your food from time to
time, when we see something and know just how good it is! :)
>Of course my favorite is fried grits. I'm not sure
>if this is considered legal grits eating or not...
>To make fried grits:
> Cook up a batch of grits
> Pour into a loaf pan and put in the fridge
> The next day, slice the grits 1/4 to 1/2 inch
> thick. flour and fry. serve with butter...
Oh, yes, it's legal.
Of course, there is one caveat.
They have to be fried in BACON FAT.
Bacon Fat will make a lot of things genuine southern.
Speaking as an ex-North Carolinean and ex-Virginian.
It's also one of my favorite ways of eating grits.
It helps keep my cholesterol level up.
Wouldn't want it to get too low.
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Elaine
>
>A while ago I had some grits that were coarse, more like risotto than cream
>of wheat. I really liked them- unfortunately the only thing available
>around here are the cream of wheat-like type.
>
These may have been stone ground grits or they may have come from one of the
heritage fairs, pioneer days, what have you that go on. Stone ground or from
small sources like the above frequently are ground coarser. They take longer to
cook generally, but they have a very good flavor. Of course, paying for that
country ham to make the red eye gravy from is an expensive proposition and gives
my doctor the shudders.
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>John Hobson wrote:
>> >
>> > I am definitely a Yankee...I love sweet cornbread and sugar AND milk on my
>> > grits!!! YUM!!
>>
>> I have trouble believing that you are a true Yankee. Any true
>> Yankee HATES grits.
>Now wait just a darn minute! I'm from Connecticut (and Yankee to the
>bone) and grits is the only thing I really like about Southern food.
>(with butter, salt, and pepper)
Well then we'll make you an honorary Southerner since you obviously have good
sense and taste to boot. GRIN.
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>Well, I'm most definitely a yankee. And I like my
>grits with salt, pepper and butter.
>
>Of course my favorite is fried grits. I'm not sure
>if this is considered legal grits eating or not...
>
>To make fried grits:
> Cook up a batch of grits
> Pour into a loaf pan and put in the fridge
> The next day, slice the grits 1/4 to 1/2 inch
> thick. flour and fry. serve with butter...
>
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When the grits are done (and this is best with stoneground yellow grits
instead of white), try adding sausage, crumbled and sauteed with chopped
onions and apples, and a little sage, salt, black and red pepper. Chill
it overnight, slice, flour, fry,and serve with butter and maple
syrup...or molasses.
Are my roots showing?!?
Priscilla
I adapted Mom's recipe to make it a little spicier, but you can leave
out the chiles for basic cheese grits
Green Chile Cheese Grits
DO NOT get Instant Grits. The "Quick" kind which take about 10 minutes
are OK, but the best kind are the twenty minute kind.
Preheat oven to 400F.
Cook grits according package instructions (they tell you how much water
to grits to cook - I make this for 6 people because it is yummy enough
that you will want leftovers.)
1 Cup shredded cheese (I use various combinations. Sometimes sharp
cheddar, sometimes Monterray Jack, sometimes pepper Jack, sometimes a
little of all 3.)
1/2 Cup of chopped green chiles (if you can't get them fresh, Hatch
makes an excellent milder canned variety. Old El Paso is the next
best.)
While grits are still hot, stir in the shredded cheese. Drain chiles,
reserve liquid and stir in the chiles. If it gets very thick and hard
to stir, add a small amount of the chile liquid. Salt and pepper to
taste (I don't).
Pour into a greased casserole and sprinkle some paprika on top.
Bake uncovered at 400 for about 20 minutes. A sort of crust will form
on the top.
This tastes even better the next day. Especially cold for
breakfast!!! Don't knock it until you try it!
LizR
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I hope you'll excuse my ignorance, but are grits the same as polenta?
Your recipe sounds similar to the polenta that I make. I bake it and
then slice it up and fry it. It makes great leftovers served with
Mango Chutney.
Laurie
(who lives very far away from the South!)
Apparently, they are...I bought a bag of yellow grits while in Georgia,
got home and noticed that there in parenthesis was the word "polenta."
Must say, it caused me some consternation that in Georgia, of all
places, grits would have to be yuppified to polenta...ah, me...
>
I'm English and fell in love with grits in Macon back in the 60's. We
have ours shipped from the States cos they don't sell the right stuff
round here. Salt and sharp English Cheddar cheese are what we eat with
ours.
--
Christina Cazalet
Yes, and no.
In my opinion, grits are coarser textured than polenta (the polenta I've
seen has been smooth-textured and made with cornmeal, not cracked corn
grits). But they're both corn.
Of course, I'm not Italian *and* I'm a Yankee, but for what it's worth I
grew up eating cornmeal mush for breakfast. We called it cornmeal porridge.
>
>I hope you'll excuse my ignorance, but are grits the same as polenta?
>Your recipe sounds similar to the polenta that I make. I bake it and
>then slice it up and fry it. It makes great leftovers served with
>Mango Chutney.
>
>
. I do something similiar with the left overs grits.... if there is any.
I cut it while cold and fry it served with what ever gravy I have.
Lei,
NYC
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Then you know somebody in the kitchen kept her eyes wide open |:-)
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Corn bread
LizR
>Of course my favorite is fried grits. I'm not sure
>if this is considered legal grits eating or not...
>To make fried grits:
> Cook up a batch of grits
> Pour into a loaf pan and put in the fridge
> The next day, slice the grits 1/4 to 1/2 inch
> thick. flour and fry. serve with butter...
Nope, it's quite legal. My grandmother does that once in a while, or did before
fat and chloresterol became such a problem. We usually usual cornmeal to dust
it in. Quite good actually. I always sprinkle cayenne pepper on mine.
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This is truth!
>i shall now share a few truths about grits!!!
>1. the Nora Mill Granary in Georgia sells the best
> grits in the world (dixie ice-cream speckled grits --
> medium ground, absolute heaven!!!!!!!)
How about an address and phone number? My last grits supplier finally got too
old and retired and I've being having to make do since.
>2. grits should never be runny. runny -- bad, not
> runny -- gooooood!
Now this depends. If I'm eating them on *top* of my eggs I like them a bit
runny. If I'm eating them on the side I like them a bit stiff.
>3. grits may be eaten with any of the following as
> flavoring:
> -- salt
> -- pepper
> -- garlic
> -- butter
> -- extra sharp cheddar
> -- boursin
> -- some other favorite savory cheese.
> please note: there is NO sugar, cream, honey, maple syrup or
> anything remotely similar on this list!!!
Trying frying up some bacon, pour off most of the fat and then sauteeing onions
in the fat until tender. Crumble the bacon into that and mix into the grits.
Tastes wonderful. You can do it with oatmeal as well and I've used good, hot
country sausage as well. There's a butcher in Guyton, Ga that makes simply the
best country sausage anywhere. He is, fortunately, not on the web.
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The original use of the word "polenta" was for any kind of grain mush.
If you were a Roman soldier, you'd eat polenta made from semolina (wheat).
If you were a Roman soldier in the doghouse with your commander, you'd get
barley mush. Chestnut meal mush was not unheard of. Grits are made from
hominy, which is made from corn, so I guess you could call grits polenta too.
But grits aren't the same thing as corn meal, which is what it sounded like
Laurie was asking. AFAIK, the only difference between white and yellow grits
is the color of the corn it's made from. Does anyone know?
You never heard of Scrapple? Grits, and breakfast sausage chopped into
jiBBles, mixed together, placed in a pan greased with sausage drippins,
chilled til firm, sliced into brownie sized squares, and then fried on
both sides, in more sausage dippins, til well browned. Served with runny
fried eggs. Now, trust me, them thars gin-U-wine stars, and bars, rebel
vittles.
Sheldon
>>I hope you'll excuse my ignorance, but are grits the same as polenta?
>Apparently, they are...I bought a bag of yellow grits while in Georgia,
>got home and noticed that there in parenthesis was the word "polenta."
>Must say, it caused me some consternation that in Georgia, of all
>places, grits would have to be yuppified to polenta...ah, me...
No, grits are not the same as polenta. Polenta is essentially cornmeal mush,
though the Italians take it further than we ever did here in the South. Grits
is hominy and hominy is corn that has been treated with alkali of some sort,
either lime, lye or woodashes with lime being the best way. Make hominy out of
the corn, dry the hominy and then grind it to whatever fineness is desired.
That's grits. Similar to polenta, but not the same in flavor or texture.
If that fellow in Georgia is putting the word "polenta" on his bags of grits
then he's either confused or he sold you a bag of cornmeal.
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House at Cat's Green
Semper paratus
The Universe is utterly indifferent to the fact that
you do not realize the consequences of your actions,
you will have to deal with them just the same.
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Well, I wonder if that was really grits your grandmother used for fried
mush. Fried mush in this neck of the woods (PA) refers to a fried
cornmeal (i.e. regular cornmeal not hominy grits) mush not fried grits.
It's also one of *my* favorite things. My mother used to make brown
sugar syrup, too, but she always put butter in it as well. Nowadays I
use maple syrup on my mush but once in a while I make brown sugar syrup
for nostalgia sake.
Kate
I've had grits with a brown sugar syrup also...They were definitely
grits and not mush...I hated it by the way...
Misty
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: You never heard of Scrapple? Grits, and breakfast sausage chopped into
: jiBBles, mixed together, placed in a pan greased with sausage drippins,
: chilled til firm, sliced into brownie sized squares, and then fried on
: both sides, in more sausage dippins, til well browned. Served with runny
: fried eggs. Now, trust me, them thars gin-U-wine stars, and bars, rebel
: vittles.
: Sheldon
Uh, Sheldon, I was always led to believe that Scrapple was a
Pennsylvania specialty. Not exactly "stars, bars and rebel" vittles.
- Tory
I had always thought the same until I heard Bailey White, and NPR
commentator from the Flordia/Georgia border describe making scrapple.
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>> Uh, Sheldon, I was always led to believe that Scrapple was a
>>Pennsylvania specialty. Not exactly "stars, bars and rebel" vittles.
>>
>> - Tory
>
>I had always thought the same until I heard Bailey White, and NPR
>commentator from the Flordia/Georgia border describe making scrapple.
>
>
Sheldon does NOT lie about things concerning food! Always remember that.
Now, about everything else, I'm no different then the rest of you.
Sheldon ( discussing sex with Pinnochio )
Pinnochio, your nose is getting longer! Sheldon, your...
Truly the only sensible course of action. The stuff is dangerous.
Whatever it is. And does anybody really know what it is? My theory
is that the refuse from slaughterhouses and nuclear waste dumpsall over
the East coast is secretly funneled in to scrapple central somewhere
under the rolling hills of PA and then is foisted upon an unsuspecting
populace. People from PA have been tucking it in so long, they no
longer have the capacity to realize it's killing them...however
slowly....
Laura
Brooklyn
Okay, I give up! What are cat's head biscuits?
Kate
(about scrapple)
And does anybody really know what it is? My theory
>is that the refuse from slaughterhouses and nuclear waste dumpsall over
>the East coast is secretly funneled in to scrapple central somewhere
>under the rolling hills of PA and then is foisted upon an unsuspecting
>populace. People from PA have been tucking it in so long, they no
>longer have the capacity to realize it's killing them...however
>slowly....
I thought scrapple used sausage - why is the meat in scrapple so much worse
than pork sausage? Just asking, 'cause, like always, I'm confused.
Nancy Dooley
"Celebrate our State." Iowa's Sesquicentennial year, 1846-1996.
My recipe is from Marcia Adams and it uses country-style pork ribs which
you cook, debone, and shred. It also calls for a small amount of
braunsweiger, finely chopped. I guess that's a sop to the ingredients in
"real" scrapple or the "original" way of making scrapple. This version
which purports to be an authentic Amish recipe seems more like a gourmet
version. But I'm not complaining. I love it. I tried to eat the "real"
stuff in PA Dutch country but it looks too disgusting. (And this from
a person who loves black pudding. Go figure.)
Kate
>They have been described as "drop" biscuits - the little peaks and valleys
>supposedly make them look like cats' heads. I dunno, I'm just repeating. I
>think they're different from "hand-thrown" (another term that was new to me)
>because hand-thrown means hand shaped/patted into biscuit form. In other
>words, somewhere between cut out biscuits and cats' head biscuits.
according to my "south the beautiful" cookbook, cat's head biscuits
are called that because they are supposed to be about the size of a
cat's head. i hope that is for the diameter, but the book didn't say
for sure and these are "drop" biscuits.
i lived in south carolina most of my life and have never seen anything
that refers to "hand-thrown" in the same sentence with biscuits.
pizza maybe, but not biscuits.
have a day.
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>PENMART (pen...@aol.com) wrote:
>: In article <4s5v44$2...@news.atlantic.net>, Dun...@dkeep.com (A. T. Hagan)
>: writes:
>: You never heard of Scrapple? Grits, and breakfast sausage chopped into
>: jiBBles, mixed together, placed in a pan greased with sausage drippins,
>: chilled til firm, sliced into brownie sized squares, and then fried on
>: both sides, in more sausage dippins, til well browned. Served with runny
>: fried eggs. Now, trust me, them thars gin-U-wine stars, and bars, rebel
>: vittles.
>: Sheldon
> Uh, Sheldon, I was always led to believe that Scrapple was a
>Pennsylvania specialty. Not exactly "stars, bars and rebel" vittles.
> - Tory
I think there has been some inadverdent deletion of attribution lines here. I
know what scrapple is and where it's generally considered to have come from so
that wasn't me that said the above. Scrapple is good though, but I like it
chock full of red pepper and syrup (cane!) on it after it's fried.
Hand thrown, cat's head biscuits served with real butter and cane syrup, grits
with red eye gravy, fried ham, hot country sausage, eggs (I'll have mine
vulcanized please), a BIG pitcher of fresh squeezed OJ, hot coffee and all day
working my ass off in the fields to burn it off. My oh my. The only down side
to not having to work like that anymore is that I can't eat like that any more
either.
Another heapin' helping from the Cardiac Cafe' brought to you by
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you do not realize the consequences of your actions,
you will have to deal with them just the same.
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>A. T. Hagan wrote:
>> Hand thrown, cat's head biscuits served with real butter and cane
>> syrup,...
>Okay, I give up! What are cat's head biscuits?
>Kate
They have been described as "drop" biscuits - the little peaks and valleys
supposedly make them look like cats' heads. I dunno, I'm just repeating. I
think they're different from "hand-thrown" (another term that was new to me)
because hand-thrown means hand shaped/patted into biscuit form. In other
words, somewhere between cut out biscuits and cats' head biscuits.
Thanks for the clarification - however, if one is making scrapple at home,
then one could certainly use sausage instead of "scrapps," no?
>
> No one knows...it's just that if you've ever tasted it (and
>believe me, I've done so more than once...) it's obvious there's
>something deeply, deeply awry with the stuff...
Laura
Brooklyn
Thank you thank you thank you !!!
I have been asking around (real scientific, eh?) regarding cat-head
biscuits and even promised this forum that I would post an answer and a
recipe. Then things went to heck and I haven't had the time.
JB
>In <31ED98...@concentric.net> Jerry and Madeline Moyer
><jmo...@concentric.net> writes:
>>
>>I believe scrapple is a Pennysylvanian Dutch origin...but I know in
>North
>>Carolina they make about the same (nasty) stuff and call it Liver
>>Pudding. My husband is from Pa. and loves it...I refuse to allow it
>in
>>the house.
>
Okay, wait, there are 2 totally different kinds of scrapple. One is
edible, the other is not (to me!) The kind I think of as Pennsylvania
Dutch is various pig parts kind of molded together with gelatin. It
comes in pound blocks in the meat case, near the souse and C-loaf (which
is, the label states specifically, snouts and ears). All of these are
fun to gross people out with.
Around here (Durham NC), scrapple is cornmeal or grits cooked and then
mixed with cooked, crumbled sausage (and I add apples, onions, and sage),
then chilled overnight, sliced and fried. Serve with syrup or molasses.
Priscilla
Sorry Priscilla, but the Pennsylvania style of Scrapple is essentially
the same as that in Durham, NC (been to both places). Both are in
essence a corn meal mush containing bits of pork. This is solidified
by refrigeration, sliced, and fried...as you described.
Philadelphia and Allentown tradition has it that scrapple originated
as soul food (originally, something that was prepared and eaten by
enslaved Blacks). And yes, and equally by tradition, it contains
pork products not generally eaten -- scraps.
For me, it doesn't make a great deal of difference if it is made
from 'crumpled sausage' or pork scraps. It is the seasoning that
distinguishes the quality of the product. (Did you ever stop and
think about what sausage is made with?)
Harry C.
Sorry, Harry, but the "Pennsylvania Dutch" scrapple for sale in every
grocery store in Durham contains no cornmeal, and consists of nothing but
pig parts. The scrapple people around here make at home is cornmeal and
pork or sausage.
Priscilla
Well, then it's *not* Pennsylvania Dutch scrapple. I live in PA and have
been to PA Dutch country many times and have seen PA Dutch scrapple in
restaurants and stores, not to mention the PA Dutch cookbooks I have
which contain recipes for scrapple, and they are all made with cornmeal
and pig scraps! What you are describing sounds more like souse
(seasoned and chopped pork trimmings, according to my dictionary).
Is this *purported* scrapple made locally or imported from PA Dutch
country? Perhaps it's just your local terminology that's at fault.
Kate
That's what we call "head cheese." YUK!
>
> Around here (Durham NC), scrapple is cornmeal or grits cooked and then
> mixed with cooked, crumbled sausage (and I add apples, onions, and sage),
> then chilled overnight, sliced and fried. Serve with syrup or molasses.
>
> Priscilla
Now, Priscilla, I actually think this Yankee could EAT that! I love
grits, especially the stone-ground "real" ones (not the Quaker instant
stuff!). I don't think I could eat the scrapple in the cold rolls in the
grocery store.
>On Jul 24, 1996 00:05:46 in article <Re: Yankees and grits>,
>Probably not. For some reason I had the scrapple-PA association too. I am
>amazed at the places that are rushing in to claim it where it seems denial
>and finger-pointing would be in order :P
>
I am originally from Georgia, and I have lived/traveled in many parts of
the south. My sister now lives in PA, where my BIL grew up.
I can tell you, for sure, that there is a *reason* that people think that
scrapple is from PA. Because it is. One of those Amish things, I think.
And, that works out very well, as the BIL won't eat many of the the
"staff of life" southern foods that we are dependent on, but, we eat
scrapple, pepper hash, cheese steaks, and all that stuff, and keep our
opinions to ourselves!
souris
Scrapple depends on who's making it. The packaged stuff you can buy in
store in the South has pork parts in it that they probably can't use
anywhere else. I'll never forget the time my uncle read the ingredients
list from a package. That was the last time I ever ate the store-bought
stuff. When my father makes it, he uses good pork, so I'll eat that.
--
Gretchen L. Hayman wo...@austin.ibm.com
Opinions expressed are my own.
>On Jul 24, 1996 00:05:46 in article <Re: Yankees and grits>,
>'he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)' wrote:
>
>>PENMART (pen...@aol.com) wrote:
>>: >> Uh, Sheldon, I was always led to believe that Scrapple was a
>>: >>Pennsylvania specialty. Not exactly "stars, bars and rebel" vittles.
>>: >>
>>: >> - Tory
>>:
>>I think you have confused Snapple (a juice dring from PA) with
>>scrapple (a Southern dish from waaay back.
>
>Probably not. For some reason I had the scrapple-PA association too. I am
It's probably because it sounds like "Scranton." ;-)
>
>
>You guys just don't know good eatin' when you taste it. My
grandmother
>excelled in Scrapple Olympics. I love it fried and served with
ketchup, my
>sister loves it served with maple syrup and my mom loves it served
with
>gravy. I suppose it's an acquired taste. I've always seen it made
with
>lots of liver. I made it once and didn't have liver, so I used turkey
>sausage and lots of sage and thyme. IMHO, fried polenta is the
Italian
>scrapple. In other words, it's not any worse than fried polenta.
>
>--
>Paula
>pau...@pipeline.com
>There are ways & means to meet your dreams, just be Frugal!
>Fried Polenta does not have mushy, gushy, liver-laden pig
>parts interlaced with fine, upstanding corn. Defend scrapple,
>if you will, but malign polenta not in comparison. :)
Laura (I've et scrapple & I'm not havin' no more of it...)
Brooklyn
>
>>PENMART (pen...@aol.com) wrote:
>>: >> Uh, Sheldon, I was always led to believe that Scrapple was a
>>: >>Pennsylvania specialty. Not exactly "stars, bars and rebel" vittles.
>>: >>
>>: >> - Tory
>>:
>>I think you have confused Snapple (a juice dring from PA) with
>>scrapple (a Southern dish from waaay back.
>
>Probably not. For some reason I had the scrapple-PA association too. I
am
>amazed at the places that are rushing in to claim it where it seems
denial
>and finger-pointing would be in order :P
This is the reason for patent attorneys.
Penmart ( writing his recipes with disappearing ink )
>>
>>Sorry Priscilla, but the Pennsylvania style of Scrapple is essentially
>>the same as that in Durham, NC (been to both places). Both are in
>>essence a corn meal mush containing bits of pork. This is solidified
>>by refrigeration, sliced, and fried...as you described.
>>
>>
>> Harry C.
>
>
>Sorry, Harry, but the "Pennsylvania Dutch" scrapple for sale in every
>grocery store in Durham contains no cornmeal, and consists of nothing but
>pig parts.
>
>Priscilla
>
Pricilla, such a demure young thing, such as you, may want to excuse
yourself, and leave the room. This is the second occasion this topic has
reared it's head, and it's all Sheldon can do, to refrain from discussing
Head Cheese....
Crispy cold, gelatinously gelid, pig pupils aquiver. Peering, gaping,
staring; please, I need no liver. From within, about to burst, tongue in
cheek aquibbling; ears burn red, jowls ablaze, and jiBBling.
Upon my plate, a kaleidoscope, of kidney, snout, and hearts. I dare not
wait, with knife upraised, to dine upon one morsel; I know tis safe, this
pigs just ate all butt, dear poppa's private parts.
Sheldon ( stopping while a head )
Lesley
>==========Virginia E Hench, 7/23/96==========
pjh wrote about Yankees and grits
on 22 Jul 96 12:43:40 saying...
>In <31ED98...@concentric.net> Jerry and Madeline Moyer
><jmo...@concentric.net> writes:
>>
>>I believe scrapple is a Pennysylvanian Dutch origin...but I know in
>North
>>Carolina they make about the same (nasty) stuff and call it Liver
>>Pudding. My husband is from Pa. and loves it...I refuse to allow it
>in
>>the house.
>
pj> Okay, wait, there are 2 totally different kinds of scrapple. One is
pj> edible, the other is not (to me!) The kind I think of as Pennsylvania
pj> Dutch is various pig parts kind of molded together with gelatin. It
pj> comes in pound blocks in the meat case, near the souse and C-loaf
pj> (which is, the label states specifically, snouts and ears). All of
pj> these are fun to gross people out with.
pj> Around here (Durham NC), scrapple is cornmeal or grits cooked and
pj> then mixed with cooked, crumbled sausage (and I add apples, onions,
pj> and sage), then chilled overnight, sliced and fried. Serve with syrup
pj> or molasses.
pj> Priscilla
Nope. They're essentially the same dish. Scrapple does _not_ contain
gelatin, that's head cheese, souse or things on that order.
Scrapple is more like that which you describe save that, instead of
taking the modern shortcut of using sausage, it goes back to what the
sausage maker used to make the sausage you wound up incorporating into
your dish.
Joel
pjh wrote about Yankees and grits
on 24 Jul 96 09:11:34 saying...
pj> Sorry, Harry, but the "Pennsylvania Dutch" scrapple for sale in every
pj> grocery store in Durham contains no cornmeal, and consists of nothing
pj> but pig parts. The scrapple people around here make at home is
pj> cornmeal and pork or sausage.
pj> Priscilla
Mebbee so, but the scrapple they *make* in Pennsylvania _does_ contain
cornmeal.
I dunno where the stuff you're talkin' about comes from, but it sure
ain't authentic.
The following _is_ authentic. I snagged it from the cook in a nice,
small restaurant in in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
Scrapple No. 1981 Yields 6 Servings
1 lb Pork w/Bones 2 Tbls Onion, Chopped
2 Pig's Feet - Pepper, Ground
- Salt
2/3 Cup Cornmeal
Place the pork, pig's feet and a sprinkle of salt in a large pot.
Cover with 1 quart (for 6 servings, adjust as required) of water.
Bring to a boil.
Cover.
Simmer until the meat falls from the bones (at least 1 1/2 hours).
Remove the meat.
Reserve the broth.
Discard the bones.
Grind the meat in a meat grinder or food processor.
Add the cornmeal to the broth.
Cook, stirring, for 5 minutes.
Add the ground meat and the onion.
Place in the top of a double boiler.
Cook over - NOT IN - simmering water for 1 hour.
Add salt and pepper to taste.
Pack into a small loaf pan which has been rinsed with cold water.
Chill until set.
To serve, cut into 1/2" thick slices and pan fry until crisp and brown.
Joel
(snip)
> Pricilla, such a demure young thing, such as you, may want to excuse
>yourself, and leave the room. This is the second occasion this topic
has
>reared it's head, and it's all Sheldon can do, to refrain from
discussing
>Head Cheese....
>
>Crispy cold, gelatinously gelid, pig pupils aquiver. Peering, gaping,
>staring; please, I need no liver. From within, about to burst, tongue
in
>cheek aquibbling; ears burn red, jowls ablaze, and jiBBling.
>
>Upon my plate, a kaleidoscope, of kidney, snout, and hearts. I dare
not
>wait, with knife upraised, to dine upon one morsel; I know tis safe,
this
>pigs just ate all butt, dear poppa's private parts.
>
>Sheldon ( stopping while a head )
Can't help but wonder if Sheldon was soused when he wrote that...but
then, souse is another topic altogether. (BTW, I sort of liked souse,
particularly as served in Germany, until I had "Farmer's Souse" there.
Instead of a clear gelatin, it was cloudy, and the "pig parts" were
clearly identifiable as such, complete with hairy ears, tail chunks,
bristles.....that stuff joined scrapple and haggis as things I'd try
once, but never again!)
Chuck
Springfield, VA
LZ MST#65818 HI MOM!
"I'll eat LibbyLand Dinners for breakfast, and King Vitamin for dinner"
-Crow
As I walk I think about a new way to walk, as I think I'm usin' up the
time left to think -TMBG
when i was a kid, i LOVED hogs head cheese . . . me and daddy would sit in front 'a the t.v. and munch it with
crackers and farmers cheese . . . one day i asked "exactly what's in this stuff?" He had to tell me . . .
haven't touched it since. don't plan to either! he still likes it.
cheryl
Ingredients
2 CUPS QUICK GRITS
8 CUPS WATER
1 TSP SALT
1/2 LB SHREDDED CHEDDAR CHEESE
1/2 LB FINELY DICED ANDOUILLE SAUSAGE
1/4 BUNCH FINELY DICED SHALLOTS
1/4 BUNCH FINELY CHOPPED FRESH PARSLEY
Dry Batter Mix
1 CUP WHITE FLOUR
1 CUP CORN FLOUR
1 TBSP GRANULATED GARLIC
1 TBSP WHITE PEPPER
Wet Batter Mix
4 LARGE EGGS
1 CUP MILK
1 TSP LOUISIANA HOT SAUCE
4 CUPS BREAD CRUMBS
2 QUARTS PEANUT OIL (For Deep Frying)
Method
Cook grits as per package directions, when done fold in cheese,
andouille, shallots and parsley. Before the grits completely cook and
are still in a liquid state; spoon them into a buttered 2" hotel pan
to about a depth of 1/2 to 3/4 inch. Allow grits to refrigerate over
night. Cut a piece of wax paper larger than the hotel pan, place the
paper over the pan and turn upside down while holding in place the wax
paper. Grits will fall onto paper in one molded piece. Use a cookie
cutter of any shape, or cut your own design to make individual 4-5
ounce sized servings.
Dredge grits boats through dry batter, dip in wet batter, then roll in
bread crumbs.
Fry grits boats at 350F until the boats are cooked through, try to
turn only once, constant movement may break up boat.
Plate Presentation
Store on a warmed serving tray, serve with grillards or other Creole
delicacies.
Chef's Notes:
Grits are a favorite Southern dish. For many years they were only
considered for breakfast, now we serve them proudly for buffet dinners
and parties.
On Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:22:11 -0500, shos...@nb.net wrote:
>> Okay, wait, there are 2 totally different kinds of scrapple. One is
>> edible, the other is not (to me!) The kind I think of as Pennsylvania
>> Dutch is various pig parts kind of molded together with gelatin. It
>> comes in pound blocks in the meat case, near the souse and C-loaf (which
>> is, the label states specifically, snouts and ears). All of these are
>> fun to gross people out with.
>
>That's what we call "head cheese." YUK!
>
>
>>
>> Around here (Durham NC), scrapple is cornmeal or grits cooked and then
>> mixed with cooked, crumbled sausage (and I add apples, onions, and sage),
>> then chilled overnight, sliced and fried. Serve with syrup or molasses.
>>
>> Priscilla
>
>Now, Priscilla, I actually think this Yankee could EAT that! I love
>grits, especially the stone-ground "real" ones (not the Quaker instant
>stuff!). I don't think I could eat the scrapple in the cold rolls in the
>grocery store.
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