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Sean Yamamoto

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Diane <d...@mindspring.com> writes:
> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
> and is the following excessive?
> 2 sets everyday dishes
> 1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
> 1 set formal (w gold rims)
> 2 sets everyday stainless
> 1 service for 12 sterling silver
> enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party

On a budget: service for 8

1 set plain white china, inexpensive
1 set plain white wine glasses, inexpensive
1 set plain red wine glasses, inexpensive
1 set plain stainless steel flatware, inexpensive

But using nice tablecloths, napkins, candles and flowers, you will also have
a fine looking dinner setup for special occasions.

Sky's the limit: service for 16-20 or more

Get nicer versions of the above and maybe extra buffet and glasses (assuming
that you'll be entertaining).

I find gold-rimmed china ostentatious. In addition, 99% of the food that is
served on gold-rimmed plates is unworthy of the expense and all the focus
goes to the china. It usually makes for a very disappointing meal.

IMHO, I do not believe that "the good china" should be reserved for company.
If you can afford the good stuff, you're buying it for yourself and not your
friends and family. Use it every day. If it chips, get a replacement. And don't
get cheap stuff.

Don't buy the Porsche and keep it in the garage and take your friends for a
Sunday drive. Use it everyday.

S.

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Meg Worley

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Diane writes:
>my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
>and is the following excessive?
>2 sets everyday dishes

Before our game begins, perhaps we should know how many
settings a "set" contains? Would that be a set for 4
or a set for 40?


Rage away,

meg

--
m...@steam.stanford.edu Comparatively Literate

Judy Wagner

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>>my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>>quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>>small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
>>and is the following excessive?
>>2 sets everyday dishes
>>1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
>>1 set formal (w gold rims)
>>2 sets everyday stainless
>>1 service for 12 sterling silver
>>enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party

I happen to <love> china/silver/stemware, so I accumulate it whenever.

From husband's family

11 beautiful Hungarian dinner plates
11 semi-matching salad plates
10 crystal dessert plates
10 squarish painted salad/dessert plates
mixture of crystal

From my family
about 10-12 place settings of china

Ours
12 everyday set (Desert Rose) with assorted serving pieces
12 stainless
12 sterling with assorted serving pieces
8 Lenox pplace settings
16 Christmas dinner and salad plates
more platters, bowls, serving dishes than you can shake a stick at
12 ea inexpensive wine and water glasses
8 ea water, wine, cordial, sherbet, etc crystal

We have lots of small dinner parties and impromptu meals and we use all of
them all the time! Some occasionally get broken, but--hey--we have enjoyed
them for years and they are all replaceable. Depending on my mood and the
group, I mix and match or get formal with all matching perfectly. Part of the
fun of the party!

Judy

-HO-BL077163A

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>
Diane <d...@mindspring.com> writes:
> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
> and is the following excessive?
> 2 sets everyday dishes
> 1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
> 1 set formal (w gold rims)
> 2 sets everyday stainless
> 1 service for 12 sterling silver
> enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party
>

This is an ongoing topic for debate in our house too. I'm
always bringing home more stuff to eat off of, drink out
of, or serve on (mostly from antique auctions and estate sales).
My husband just rolls his eyes and smirkingly says "I guess
we NEEDED that, right?" (like the 12 sterling silver 110-year
old salt spoons I bought in Charleston...had to have them)
But we have loads of storage space - I've actually got some empty drawers!

I really have no clue exactly how much stuff we have, but off
the top of my head:

24 everyday place settings (dishes/flatware)
24 place settings of Johnson Brothers' Old Britain Castles
12 place settings Lenox china (my wedding pattern)
12 water/wine/champagne Heisey Orchid pattern
16 water/wine mid-price crystal
16 all-purpose wine
16 silverplate flatware
loads of Heisey Orchid dessert plates & bowls
8 glass fish plates
loads of depression glass (like a couple hundred pieces)
8 limoges soupbowls
etc., etc.

Plus I have lots of matching/mismatching serving pieces.
I guess finding all this stuff and then finding ways to
use it has become a minor obsession!

Tracy

Melissa Hellman

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Your list sounds a little excessive to me, but then again, I have a small
kitchen. I have enough dishes to feed 4, with each person getting a
dinner plate, a small plate for either dessert or bread, a bowl for soup,
and a shallow broad pasta bowl. I also have 4 additional non-matching
bowls and plates, which I serve from when I have people over and no
plates left. I do, however, have tons of silverware. Someday I'd like
to have enough dishes to have people over and not have to get up and wash
them in the middle of the meal :-o

-Melissa
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Mary Elizabeth

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d...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
> and is the following excessive?
> 2 sets everyday dishes
> 1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
> 1 set formal (w gold rims)
> 2 sets everyday stainless
> 1 service for 12 sterling silver
> enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party
>
> thanks, diane

Hmmm...is this debate occurring because you want to buy another set?

;-)
MEB

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Nancy Dooley

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>I find gold-rimmed china ostentatious. In addition, 99% of the food that is
>served on gold-rimmed plates is unworthy of the expense and all the focus
>goes to the china. It usually makes for a very disappointing meal.

I don't have any, but I don't agree with you. I think it's beautiful and
charming, and not ostentatious. But then, we can disagree ;-).

>IMHO, I do not believe that "the good china" should be reserved for company.
>If you can afford the good stuff, you're buying it for yourself and not your
>friends and family. Use it every day. If it chips, get a replacement. And don't
>get cheap stuff.

Good sentiment. However, if you had china that you picked out when newly
married, and it is now discontinued and a bread and butter plate costs $46,
you would also save it for "company." ;-)


Nancy Dooley

"Celebrate our State." Iowa's Sesquicentennial year, 1846-1996.

Nancy Dooley

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In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:
>From: d...@mindspring.com
>Subject: dishes et al
>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT

>thanks, diane

If you already have it all and can store it, what's the prob? OTOH, it looks
excessive to me: I have one everyday set of dishes and stainless, and one
more formal ("good") set of sterling and china. I also have various other
pieces - 12 clear salad plates and dessert (shallow) bowls and 12 French onion
soup individual ramekins or whatever they're called (little souffle-shaped
dishes). I also have a large number of unmatched serving pieces I inherited
from various relatives, along with unmatched sterling pieces and lots of large
sterling serving pieces, which were mostly wedding and shower gifts.
If I had space I'd have some shallow ramekins and other extra stuff like that,
but it isn't necessary. I have 2 dozen of each of 3 kinds
ofwine/champagne/water stemmed glasses.

d...@mindspring.com

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dj...@columbia.edu (djk) wrote:

>Hmmm. I have 4 plates (unmatched), 7 bowls (different sizes and
>unmatched), 5 3-tine forks and 4 4-tine forks, several teaspoons, no table
>spoons, and a few knives. I don't own stemware--I prefer to drink out
>wine directly from the bottle. Does that answer your question, Stranger?

hmmmmmmm, buster....this is why i am not eating in your apartment when
i visit you in NYC, "stranger".
missy

d...@mindspring.com

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t...@pdq.ho.att.com (-HO-BL077163A) wrote:

>This is an ongoing topic for debate in our house too. I'm
>always bringing home more stuff to eat off of, drink out
>of, or serve on (mostly from antique auctions and estate sales).
>My husband just rolls his eyes and smirkingly says "I guess
>we NEEDED that, right?" (like the 12 sterling silver 110-year
>old salt spoons I bought in Charleston...had to have them)

do you know about BeverlyBremer's estate silver shop in Atlanta. you
have to get on the mailing list..they have it all.

and while we are discussing dishes.. who knows of a Fitz and Floyd
outlet in the SE united states?
you all are terrific by the way
diane

Mary Elizabeth

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Nancy Dooley wrote:
>
> >I find gold-rimmed china ostentatious. In addition, 99% of the food that is
> >served on gold-rimmed plates is unworthy of the expense and all the focus
> >goes to the china. It usually makes for a very disappointing meal.
>
> I don't have any, but I don't agree with you. I think it's beautiful and
> charming, and not ostentatious. But then, we can disagree ;-).
>

I agree with Nancy here. Sorry you've run into so many ostentatious
cooks, Sean. If you think gold rims are ostentatious, you must really
hate designs that take up the whole rim! ;-)

> >IMHO, I do not believe that "the good china" should be reserved for company.
> >If you can afford the good stuff, you're buying it for yourself and not your
> >friends and family. Use it every day. If it chips, get a replacement. And don't
> >get cheap stuff.
>
> Good sentiment. However, if you had china that you picked out when newly
> married, and it is now discontinued and a bread and butter plate costs $46,
> you would also save it for "company." ;-)
>

Indeed. My mother has such a set, and it's become decoration because
it's beautiful but too rare to use in a house with grandchildren. Makes
beautiful decorations, though.

If I had my druthers, I'd have a Wedgwood strawberry-pattern tea service
with some serving pieces as well as bread-and-butter plates, just for
teas.

And a set of Royal Worcester "Evesham" pattern serving dishes, just
because I love all those fruits & vegetables in their rich colors. Then
I'd have to have gold-rimmed cream or off=white dinner dishes to go with
them...

MEB, who's still making do w/white Corelleware but gets out one
grandmother-in-law's Mikasa Silver Pine & the other GMIL's weird but
lovely old silver when we have guests.

Kathy Lankford

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I've always been fond of picking up a pretty thing here and there at
garage sales and having a mismatched set of lovely ancient china and
fantastically patterned silver. I never have to wonder if they'll run
out of replacement items for the set!

If there's no room in the cupboard for the next dish or in the drawer
for the next spoon, that's too many dishes. If there aren't any clean
spoons or bowls but the dishwasher isn't full enough to run yet, that's
not enough dishes.

I've heard of another way to tell. A bride goes to the store and registers
a pattern for everyday and holiday china and silver and serving items.
The store tells her relations how much they must buy to not feel guilty.
That was the rule in Mom's day, and did she have a lot of dishes!

djk

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> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.

Hmmm. I have 4 plates (unmatched), 7 bowls (different sizes and


unmatched), 5 3-tine forks and 4 4-tine forks, several teaspoons, no table
spoons, and a few knives. I don't own stemware--I prefer to drink out
wine directly from the bottle. Does that answer your question, Stranger?

David

sch...@in.net

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d...@mindspring.com wrote:

>my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>small survey and find out what is typical among users here.

>and is the following excessive?
>2 sets everyday dishes
>1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
>1 set formal (w gold rims)
>2 sets everyday stainless
>1 service for 12 sterling silver
>enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party

>thanks, diane


2 services for 12 everyday dishes (JC Penney's and Dansk)
1 service for 24 of my grandmother's Noritake ca. 1910
1 service for 12 of Georg Jensen flatware
1 service for 24 of (guess who's) sterling
12 clear glass soup/salad bowls
12 Italian glass dessert bowls with "silver" stands
12 matching Italian goblets
24 (each) leaded glass red wine, white wine, aperitif, water goblets

and 28 years' worth of marriage to accumulate a yard sale worth of
cocktail glasses, misc. serving dishes, serving implements and
one-use-only stuff like my asparagus dish.

Squeaks...storage space challenged


Mardi Wetmore

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My favorite set of dishes were clear glass with kind of scalloped edges. I
first saw them when Jeff Smith used them on his show. At that time you could
purchase them for $15.00 for a set of four at Macy's. I bought three sets.
Well, they are almost all gone now because they have a tendency to explode when
you put hot food on them (which is probably why they were discontinued quite a
few years ago). But, my current favorite set of dishes is a set of four I
commissioned from a local potter whose work I greatly admired. He built us a
set of four dinner plates, four "salad" plates, four bowls and two casserole
dishes. They are my pride and joy. We use them as our "good" dishes.
_____

Come visit my Low-Fat Lifestyle Forum home page.
Lots of low-fat cooking and eating tips, cookbook
recommendations and low-fat recipes.
http://www.lowfatlife.com/

d...@mindspring.com

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Mary Elizabeth <be...@orph.org> wrote:


>Hmmm...is this debate occurring because you want to buy another set?

I have my eye on some Fitz and Floyd cups and saucers (smile). like i
REALLY need them.

diane

Allison Mitchell

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>In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com>, d...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.

Hmmm....

For everyday dishes, we have 8 plates, 8 bowls, flatware for 12 and
glasses for 12. We also have lotsof "pizza cups" -- those plastic ones
you get when you order pizza as a college student -- and coffee mugs.
For the more formal stuff, we have 8 settings of the china and 6 of the
crystal. We're slowly working our way up to 12 servings on the china
and crystal. We like to entertain, but currently the amount of stuff
we have works really well -- the extra china we want is for later on,
when our family expands.

--
Allison Wolf, (math grad)
Emory University, Atlanta, GA
Internet: all...@mathcs.emory.edu
UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emory!allison

Ginny Hunt

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> > Good sentiment. However, if you had china that you picked out when
> > newly married, and it is now discontinued and a bread and butter
> > plate costs $46, you would also save it for "company." ;-)

Yes! I have an heirloom set of my grandmother's Noritake Dresdena,
discontinued pre-WW2 china. It's gorgeous and I do keep a teacup out on
my teacup shelf in the dining room to admire the pattern (I also use my
teacups, one every day), but I wouldn't think of using this set of china
every day. It's not just for company either, but it is for special
occasions.

~Ginny

Keith & Kelly Harcus

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My husband and I have the same sort of thing, I saw this set of
really sweet everyday dishes at a BARGAIN price and he wouldn't hear
of buying them with the groceries (it was four each of quite flat
bowls, side plates and smallish main plates, plus 4 mugs - all white
with little blue seashells near the edge).

for everyday-
4 place settings as described above (I bought them when I went to
getthe groceries on my own *hee hee*)
4 place settings received as a wedding gift
6 place settings given to him by his gran
4 wonderful large pasta bowls, with a pasta-themed design

assorted glasses & mugs
set of 6 each: forks, knives, spoons and teaspoons (with green handles)

teapot, sugar & milk jug with jungle animals

formal- 8 place settings of my wedding pattern
(dinner, side & dessert plates; tea cups & saucers; soup bowls with
saucers, and a tea pot)

It sounds like a lot, but it's for the most part a motley collection
of leftovers from our single days. When we buy somewhere, I'll sort
it out and give half of it to the goodwill.

I agree with someone else's post that formalware should be used. I
always feel that things should be useful as well as pretty. But
until we can store it safely, my formal ware is in a box in the spare
room!
We bought the teapot from a 'seconds' sale for about 60% of the usual
price, and I am still yet to find the flaw! This way, we will be
able to build up our collection (and replace broken plates).

Ellen Smith

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Ginny Hunt <gsh...@bsdi.ahoynet.com> wrote:

Dang! I wish I had known this sooner about the bowls! My grandad used
to use those to spit in when he was in the last stages of emphesyma.
They were just the size to hold the huge amounts of phlegm he coughed
up. I was so sick of them by the time he kicked that I tossed them
out!!!! Man oh Man oh Man!

Ellen Smith

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Keith_and_K...@msn.com (Keith & Kelly Harcus) wrote:

Well this so interesting! Be sure and let us know when you decorate
the bathroom ok?

Heather Allen

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*cut the whole darn thing out*

dishes we have, well, we're two single people who moved in together and
haven't started the whole "get real dishes together" thing yet. But, so
far we have two sets of Pfaltzgraff, one set blue speckled and one set
beige with brown flowers, we need silverware, but the stuff we do have is
nice and matches the blue speckled. We also have a very silly set of
dishes with cows on them :) excellent shape, perfect for large pasta
portions. We have some nice glasses, but a couple have broken so we need a
new set. And we have a complete set of visions cookware, from saucepans to
roasters, to cake pans. Not bad for two people who are just starting out I
don't think.

Heather

Mary Elizabeth

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Ginny Hunt wrote:

>
> Mary Elizabeth wrote:
> > MEB, who's still making do w/white Corelleware but gets out one
> > grandmother-in-law's Mikasa Silver Pine & the other GMIL's weird but
> > lovely old silver when we have guests.
>
> Aside from my mother, I have never known anyone else to have any Silver
> Pine! Personally, it's not my choice in china, but it's so very rare!
> What's really rare in that pattern are the bowls. If you have any, guard
> them with your life! Even the replacement services don't get bowls in
> very often.
>
> ~Ginny


Oh...I also have 12 wine glasses and 12 sherbet glasses from MY
grandmother; a Fostoria pattern. My in-laws began giving us Fostoria
champagne flutes on our 15th anniversary but have been told Fostoria has
gone into receivership :-( Anyone know about this?

MEB

Ginny Hunt

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Debra Fran Baker

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>In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:
>>From: d...@mindspring.com
>>Subject: dishes et al
>>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT

>>my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable


>>quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>>small survey and find out what is typical among users here.

>>and is the following excessive?
>>2 sets everyday dishes
>>1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
>>1 set formal (w gold rims)
>>2 sets everyday stainless
>>1 service for 12 sterling silver
>>enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party

Do you keep kosher, by any chance?

I have two sets of everyday dishes (no china, but we have no room for it
yet) and two sets of stainless (no sterling, ditto.) My meat dishes and
stainless are formal enough to do for "nice" meals, which was quite
deliberate on our parts. Our dairy set is heavy and informal, with the
stainless having a very modern design. No way can we confuse them.

We have Ghoram crystal but we rarely use them.

Debra
--
Rabbi Shimon [ben Netanel] said "...And be not evil in your own sight."
Ethics of the Fathers
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Debra Fran Baker dfb...@panix.com

Michael Edelman

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Nancy Dooley (nancy-...@uiowa.edu) wrote:

: In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:
: >From: d...@mindspring.com
: >Subject: dishes et al
: >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT

: >my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
: >quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
: >small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
: >and is the following excessive?
: >2 sets everyday dishes
: >1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
: >1 set formal (w gold rims)
: >2 sets everyday stainless
: >1 service for 12 sterling silver
: >enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party

Well, I have one set of stainless, one set of crockery that used to serve
8 but seems to be down to 7, and a lot of paper. I seem to end up borrowing
a lot for dinner parties. I have a set of silver I inherited but I'm not
sure when I'll ever use it.

I do have some stuff that matches nothing but can be used to fill in
holes when I'm feeding 10-12 people. And some lovely plastic dishes
in an attractive international orange. Handy for signaling the chef
from a great distance.

No one has ever complained about the dishes and flatware at my dinner
parties. They're too busy eating.

--mike

Ellen Smith

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heat...@frontiernet.net (Heather Allen) wrote:


Not bat at tall IMHO. Got any salt and pepper shakes?

s f

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I think all of this very much depends on how much you love china, crystal
and silver..... and use it. Personally, I love the stuff and have enough
for several families. If I had room, I'd have more. If you're going to
the trouble of cooking a great meal, serve it on plates that complement it.


Now that certain people living in my house - you know who you are - can be
counted on not to break things, my everyday china is something a lot of
people would call their good stuff.... I bought it on sale. I happen to
like sets of twelve. Because we have a big, extended family and lots of
friends - we need the numbers. A small party for us would be considered
big to others.

At "sit down" dinners, I put down dinner plates that match, but I don't
care if anything else does. For entertaining, I have several "sets" of VERY
expensive stuff. One of my sets (inherited) is complete right down to the
bullion bowls, but I also have a couple of ($$$) dinner plate only "sets".
I don't like to serve food on paper plates, so having several "sets"
doesn't commit me to any one pattern. If something is broken, no "set" is
ruined and the missing piece isn't noticed.

Mismatched stuff suits my purposes and I can still find fine china at
garage sales and second hand stores at a decent price every now and then.
Just this month I found four each (perfect condition) of the plain white
Wedgewood salad plates and dessert plates (8 total) at an ARC store for $2
a piece. That's typical of the price I'm willing to pay, because I'm a
bargin hunter.

As far as what's considered excessive.... if you don't ever use the stuff,
then you have too much. My criteria for excessive is lack of storage
space. If it's useful and used, it's not excessive. Sounds like someone
at your house still has a "bachelor" mentality.

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On Aug 28, 1996 09:26:37 in article <Re: dishes et al>,
'm...@Steam.Stanford.EDU (Meg Worley)' wrote:


>Diane writes:
>>my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>>quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>>small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
>>and is the following excessive?
>>2 sets everyday dishes
>
>Before our game begins, perhaps we should know how many
>settings a "set" contains? Would that be a set for 4
>or a set for 40?

Richard Aerni

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-HO-BL077163A wrote:

>
> >
> Diane <d...@mindspring.com> writes:
> > my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> > quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware.
> > and is the following excessive?
> > 2 sets everyday dishes

..sound of smashing and breaking crockery....

> > enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party
> >
>

> I really have no clue exactly how much stuff we have, but off
> the top of my head:
>
> 24 everyday place settings (dishes/flatware)
> 24 place settings of Johnson Brothers' Old Britain Castles
> 12 place settings Lenox china (my wedding pattern)
> 12 water/wine/champagne Heisey Orchid pattern

...more smashing and breaking sounds heard...

> loads of Heisey Orchid dessert plates & bowls
> 8 glass fish plates
> loads of depression glass (like a couple hundred pieces)
> 8 limoges soupbowls
> etc., etc.
>

Wow!! I hate to be the one that had to pack and organize your next
move...:>) It sounds like there are more than a few folks in rfc who are
into, how shall I put it, "collecting".

We keep enough around to serve a group of twelve. Beyond that we call it
a picnic, or a potluck, and go to plastic, paper, etc. The silverware
(stainless, actually) matches, but that's about it. I make tableware and
pottery for a living, so I tend to keep whatever I like throughout the
course of the year to "try it out", and I've also got a number of pieces
from other practitioners around the country. Whenever the numbers (of my
stuff) gets too great, there is a sell-off, or a giveaway. My wife is a
relentless "pruner" so we never accumulate too much. I usually grumble
at the time, but come to her point of view later on ( and silently
:>)...no sense encouraging it too much).

Richard

Ellen Smith

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Richard Aerni <"rca...@servtech.com"@servtech.com> wrote:

Hey Dick! Sounds like you might have a sense of humor. thank you Mary,
mother of God! :) Loved your sounds!!

R.J. Baranick

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hel...@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Melissa Hellman) wrote:

>Your list sounds a little excessive to me, but then again, I have a small
>kitchen. I have enough dishes to feed 4, with each person getting a
>dinner plate, a small plate for either dessert or bread, a bowl for soup,
>and a shallow broad pasta bowl. I also have 4 additional non-matching
>bowls and plates, which I serve from when I have people over and no
>plates left. I do, however, have tons of silverware. Someday I'd like
>to have enough dishes to have people over and not have to get up and wash
>them in the middle of the meal :-o

>-Melissa
>***************************
>Melissa D. Hellman
>hel...@lamar.colostate.edu
>http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hellman/my.html
>This .sig brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department,
>College of Hard Knocks.
We ahd the deabte over dishes some 25 years ago.
Decided ther shouldnt be two standards.
If it's good enough for every-day, it should be good enough for
company.
We bought Corelle for 12...
Have used it and enjoyed it every day
and every "function" since!


Ellen Smith

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bara...@epix.net (R.J. Baranick) wrote:

>>>Decided ther shouldnt be two standards.
>>>If it's good enough for every-day, it should be good enough for
>>>company.

Well I would say!


>>>We bought Corelle for 12...

How many place settings did you get for 12 bucks?


>>>Have used it and enjoyed it every day
>>>and every "function" since!

Pardon me. But if you don't mind, I'd rather not hear about your
functions. I got my fill of peoples functions in another newsgroup,
thanks ever so much.


Keith & Kelly Harcus

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Well, someone asked!!!

Elaine Crittenden

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Talking about rare dishes being used to serve on for only special
occasions----

You know, of course, the "old saying" : "The *second* wife uses the silver."
;-D .....*laine

Arthur A. Simon, Jr.

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-HO-BL077163A wrote:
>
> >
> Diane <d...@mindspring.com> writes:
> > my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> > quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> > small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
> > and is the following excessive?
> > 2 sets everyday dishes
> > 1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
> > 1 set formal (w gold rims)
> > 2 sets everyday stainless
> > 1 service for 12 sterling silver
> > enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party
> >
>
> This is an ongoing topic for debate in our house too. I'm
> always bringing home more stuff to eat off of, drink out
> of, or serve on (mostly from antique auctions and estate sales).
> My husband just rolls his eyes and smirkingly says "I guess
> we NEEDED that, right?" (like the 12 sterling silver 110-year
> old salt spoons I bought in Charleston...had to have them)
> But we have loads of storage space - I've actually got some empty drawers!

>
> I really have no clue exactly how much stuff we have, but off
> the top of my head:
>
> 24 everyday place settings (dishes/flatware)
> 24 place settings of Johnson Brothers' Old Britain Castles
> 12 place settings Lenox china (my wedding pattern)
> 12 water/wine/champagne Heisey Orchid pattern
> 16 water/wine mid-price crystal
> 16 all-purpose wine
> 16 silverplate flatware

> loads of Heisey Orchid dessert plates & bowls
> 8 glass fish plates
> loads of depression glass (like a couple hundred pieces)
> 8 limoges soupbowls
> etc., etc.
>
> Plus I have lots of matching/mismatching serving pieces.
> I guess finding all this stuff and then finding ways to
> use it has become a minor obsession!
>
> Tracy

==========================================
For our better stuff,

We took the mix-match aproach, except that all china patterns
must share an ecru rather than a bone-white ground. Master pattern
is Minton Grasmere, with various Lenox place settings for *one*.
Crystal is eclectic...we collect antique acid etched. The etch is
stylistically matched to the china pattern in each case. No one
gets his glass confused with anyone else's, even during the dessert-
wine-in-the-den phase. This method is always a coversation starter.

Mary f(pud)

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> In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:
> >From: d...@mindspring.com
> >Subject: dishes et al
> >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT
>
> >my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> >quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> >small survey and find out what is typical among users here.
> >and is the following excessive?
> >2 sets everyday dishes
> >1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
> >1 set formal (w gold rims)
> >2 sets everyday stainless
> >1 service for 12 sterling silver
> >enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party
>
> >thanks, diane
> Well wine glasses, after last christmas, I have probably over 100, but some I just
don't use (that terrible, I'm afraid they'll get broken syndrom). We have one
set of everyday that is slowly dwindling, so I need a new set. And I have three sets
of good china (just inherited it!) Sterling, I chose my mom's pattern and she has
24 services :-), I have 6. Stainless, have a real mishmosh that I want to elminate.
I'm gonna order some new and pack the old up for the little guy when he gets older!
If you have the place to store it (as nancy d said), then what the heck!
--
Mary f. (hey...cut that out...these are jeans, not a tree trunk,
although, Bernie does call them sticks!)
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scratching post!! Keeeewwwwl!)
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jmo...@concentric.net

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Regarding dishes and such...my Mum had a good method of taking
"circulating" her stock..everytime she went to England she would carry
back a new set of "good" china...the last set of "good" china then became
the "everyday" set. Seemed to work out well, as by then some had been
broken or lost...
I bought Kaiser Porcellain in Germany when I lived there, and since the
military was moving us, bought enough 9 piece (yes! I have a dish for
every need!) place settings to allow for breakage. I bought 16, assuming
I'd lose some, and darn if you don't know it! Nothing broke in shipment!
That was unusual!! I also bought 12 Mikasa Parklane crytal Iced teas at
an indecent price there, and 18 Mikasa Parklane cystral beer mugs which
we used for everything at parties. I have gobs of Gorham crystal and
some wonderful stuff I bought in Prague...so I often get elected to have
the big parties in our group. I love it!
Madeline

bleck...@monmouth.com

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> In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:
>
> Subject: dishes et al
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT
>
> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.


I know that this is not typical. I am addicted to dishes, glassware and
flatware. I love setting a table that doesn't look the same every time. I have:

Dishes: - China
1 set Royal Doulton - Fomal gold rim pattern - Sovereign
Service for 14 with every piece you could
possibly imagine from crescent salad plates to
cream soups.

1 set Wedgewood - A modern (back in the 60's) black and white pattern
from their Susie Cooper Design series
Service for 14, not as many pieces in each
set, but I do have both demitasse and regular
coffee cups with this set

1 set Aynsley - A floral pattern - Pembroke
This is a luncheon set and I only have service
for 8. I'm trying to fill it in as I do have three
kids and it would be nice to give each a set
when they are finally settled down.

1 set Blue Rock - The original Blue Rock pattern from my mother
This isn't complete anymore, a few cups are
gone but I have service for 12.

1 set Coalport - Silver rim pattern from my mother-in-law
I think its called Paragon
Service for 12

Dishes: Everyday

1 set Hornsea - Sort of a plain sand color but interesting
pattern to the design.
Service for 12

1 set of Sakura - A jazzy art deco pattern - Tango
Service for 12

1 set of Sakura - A pattern called Roadside which we use
for picnics with our car club
Service for 4

Glasses: Crystal

1 set Waterford - A very plain pattern, name escapes me now
Service for 12 including water, red & white
wines, champagne tulip and liquors.

1 set - A heavy lead crystal from Chechoslovakia
inherited from my grandmother-in-law
Service for 24, but only four sizes.

1 set Rosenthal-Netter - This is a black & white set
water, wine and champagne bowl
from the days when I didn't know that
you weren't supposed to let the bubbles
go into the air!

1 set Italian stemware: You know the stuff from the tourist
trap island in Italy where you go to watch
them blow glass - in a smokey grey -
inherited from my mother-in-law
Glasses: Everyday

Macy's Tasters: A slew of these - enough for a real old
fashioned cocktail party.

Bar glasses: No idea what type they came with the
side bar we inherited from Mike's grandmother.

1 set Fostoria Regular daily set - water and juice sizes
service for 12

Flatware: Sterling

Towle: Service for 14 and there isn't a piece you
can think of that this set doesn't have -
pickle forks, iced tea spoons, sugar tongs
cold meat forks, etc.

Sheffield: My mother-in-law went crazy - she bought
out the store, there are over 16 pieces to
every place setting from the true English
tea and dessert spoons to dinner forks
that look like you could perform a tonsillectomy
with them.
Service for 12

Plate:

Rogers 1840? Floral pattern - Service for 12

Oneida A simple pattern - Service for 12

Stainless: A 1960's pattern from Tiffany's that I love
but can't remember the name of
Service for 14

Plus:

All sorts of odd pieces like a Limoge
oyster plate set for him and her, they're
exactly the same except that one is in
blue and the other in pink.

Deviled eggs plates that I picked up in
flea markets. All sorts of things like
cheese plates and caviar bowls and
salt cellars and, well you name it.

I said I loved setting the table didn't I? Of course it helps that
I married the only child of an only child.


Barbara

Ellen Smith

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bleck...@monmouth.com wrote:


>>>> In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Subject: dishes et al
>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT
>>>>
>>>> my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>>>> quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>>>> small survey and find out what is typical among users here.

Sounds interesting.


>>>I know that this is not typical. I am addicted to dishes, glassware and
>>>flatware. I love setting a table that doesn't look the same every time. I have:

>>>Dishes: - China
>>>1 set Royal Doulton - Fomal gold rim pattern - Sovereign
>>> Service for 14 with every piece you could
>>> possibly imagine from crescent salad plates to
>>> cream soups.

Actually, I hardly ever imagine about dishes.


>>>1 set Wedgewood - A modern (back in the 60's) black and white pattern
>>> from their Susie Cooper Design series
>>> Service for 14, not as many pieces in each
>>> set, but I do have both demitasse and regular
>>> coffee cups with this set

Well, demitasse is so important in today's world!


>>>1 set Aynsley - A floral pattern - Pembroke
>>> This is a luncheon set and I only have service
>>> for 8. I'm trying to fill it in as I do have three
>>> kids and it would be nice to give each a set
>>> when they are finally settled down.

uh huhhhhhhhhhhhh.

>>>1 set Blue Rock - The original Blue Rock pattern from my mother
>>> This isn't complete anymore, a few cups are
>>> gone but I have service for 12.

Only a service for 12? Aren't you afraid you might run out, since you
only have around 6,000 dishes by now?


>>>1 set Coalport - Silver rim pattern from my mother-in-law
>>> I think its called Paragon
>>> Service for 12

here we go. I was getting nervous you might have to borrow some!
>>>Dishes: Everyday

>>>1 set Hornsea - Sort of a plain sand color but interesting
>>> pattern to the design.
>>> Service for 12

Good. everyday is very important. And interesting patterns are
so.....interesting.


>>>1 set of Sakura - A jazzy art deco pattern - Tango
>>> Service for 12

Art deco? Very good. Will definitely be a collectible!


>>>1 set of Sakura - A pattern called Roadside which we use
>>> for picnics with our car club
>>> Service for 4

I love that!! Sort of a theme thing!!!
>>>Glasses: Crystal

>>>1 set Waterford - A very plain pattern, name escapes me now
>>> Service for 12 including water, red & white
>>> wines, champagne tulip and liquors.

>>>1 set - A heavy lead crystal from Chechoslovakia
>>> inherited from my grandmother-in-law
>>> Service for 24, but only four sizes.

Hmmm...sounds like you need to be collecting more crystal. You never
know when the Olympics might be droppin in for dinner!


>>>1 set Rosenthal-Netter - This is a black & white set
>>> water, wine and champagne bowl
>>> from the days when I didn't know that
>>> you weren't supposed to let the bubbles
>>> go into the air!

uh...you're not?


>>>1 set Italian stemware: You know the stuff from the tourist
>>> trap island in Italy where you go to watch
>>> them blow glass - in a smokey grey -
>>> inherited from my mother-in-law

Sounds like someone has been sucking up to mommy-n-law haven't they
sweetie? :)
>>>Glasses: Everyday

>>>Macy's Tasters: A slew of these - enough for a real old
>>> fashioned cocktail party.

Sounds like you need a few drinks. Why don't you have one..soon!


>>>Bar glasses: No idea what type they came with the
>>> side bar we inherited from Mike's grandmother.

Mikey's family sounds like the had the money honey.


>>>1 set Fostoria Regular daily set - water and juice sizes
>>> service for 12

>>>Flatware: Sterling

>>>Towle: Service for 14 and there isn't a piece you
>>> can think of that this set doesn't have -
>>> pickle forks, iced tea spoons, sugar tongs
>>> cold meat forks, etc.

>>>Sheffield: My mother-in-law went crazy - she bought
>>> out the store, there are over 16 pieces to
>>> every place setting from the true English
>>> tea and dessert spoons to dinner forks
>>> that look like you could perform a tonsillectomy
>>> with them.
>>> Service for 12

She does sound a little......strange.
>>>Plate:

>>>Rogers 1840? Floral pattern - Service for 12

>>>Oneida A simple pattern - Service for 12

>>>Stainless: A 1960's pattern from Tiffany's that I love
>>> but can't remember the name of
>>> Service for 14

>>>Plus:

>>> All sorts of odd pieces like a Limoge
>>> oyster plate set for him and her, they're
>>> exactly the same except that one is in
>>> blue and the other in pink.

>>> Deviled eggs plates that I picked up in
>>> flea markets. All sorts of things like
>>> cheese plates and caviar bowls and
>>> salt cellars and, well you name it.

>>>I said I loved setting the table didn't I? Of course it helps that
>>>I married the only child of an only child.


>>>Barbara
Yeah well. Sounds like you're set! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ellen Smith

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jmo...@concentric.net wrote:

<rolls her eyes in her head>


OzCaity

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>: In article <501l60$l...@mule2.mindspring.com> d...@mindspring.com writes:

>: >Subject: dishes et al
>: >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT
>: >my husband and i have this ongoing debate over what is a reasonable
>: >quantity of dishes, glassware and flatware. So i thought i would do a
>: >small survey and find out what is typical among users here.

>: >and is the following excessive?


>: >2 sets everyday dishes
>: >1 set nicer dishes for a buffet
>: >1 set formal (w gold rims)
>: >2 sets everyday stainless
>: >1 service for 12 sterling silver
>: >enough glasses for maybe 30 at a cocktail party


Sheesh!! Darlin, don't ya have anything better to spend your money on
- like fabulous food? An overseas holiday? mink lined wellies?
My dear heart and I have ONE dinner set, Snowflake pattern (no two are
exactly alike) but funnily enough, the food stays on them just about
as long as it would on $3000 Wedgewood.
What are ya saving the "good stuff" for, the Queen?

Caity in Canberra, Australia
off to read another cookbook.....

DU

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On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:44:47 GMT, coco...@pcug.org.au (OzCaity)
wrote:

>Sheesh!! Darlin, don't ya have anything better to spend your money on
>- like fabulous food? An overseas holiday? mink lined wellies?

itis hardly either or... we can do it all
always have fab food'and
my mink won't come out of cold storage till october/november.

>My dear heart and I have ONE dinner set, Snowflake pattern (no two are
>exactly alike) but funnily enough, the food stays on them just about
>as long as it would on $3000 Wedgewood.
>What are ya saving the "good stuff" for, the Queen?

in my house *I* am the royalty. and we use the "fahncy" dishes/silver
all the time. even sterling goes in the DW.. but do not heat dry the
knives.. there is a resin in the handles ( for weight) and it will be
dried out over time by heat ... also ... in the DW - never let the
stainless touch the sterling... and gold rim dishes CAN go in the
dishwasher if you use the rec dw detergent.
*************************************************************
I can't afford to go to Europe so, since the earth rotates
every 24 hours, why couldn't I shoot straight up and hover
in some kind of contraption and let Europe come to me?
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