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Matthew

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Jan 18, 2007, 8:52:31 AM1/18/07
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Hi:

We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
let them cook.

This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.

How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?

Thanks

Matthew

Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 8:59:24 AM1/18/07
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Matthew wrote:

> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?

DO NOT pour oil down your sink. Find some old bottles or coffee cans or
the like and pour it into that to contain it, then toss into the trash.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:05:00 AM1/18/07
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Since canola oil does not solidify at refrigerator temperatures, it should,
in theory be OK to put it down the drain, since your underground pipes are
also above freezing. But still - how much adventure are you in the mood for?
Wait until your kitchen trash has enough used paper towels & napkins in it,
and pour in some of the oil. Repeat for a few days until it's gone. Of
course, you don't want to do this if you have someone in the house who makes
a habit of ripping the plastic bags.


Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:06:42 AM1/18/07
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Matthew said...

> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?


I'd suggest pouring it into empty large soda bottles and throw away with the
trash.

Andy

Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:09:17 AM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> Since canola oil does not solidify at refrigerator temperatures, it should,
> in theory be OK to put it down the drain, since your underground pipes are
> also above freezing. But still - how much adventure are you in the mood for?
> Wait until your kitchen trash has enough used paper towels & napkins in it,
> and pour in some of the oil. Repeat for a few days until it's gone. Of
> course, you don't want to do this if you have someone in the house who makes
> a habit of ripping the plastic bags.
>

Good grief, if I want something cleaned up and out of the way I want it
done NOW... not a slow process over a couple of days as you suggest.
I also don't buy plastic bags for my trash. I use the paper grocery bags
in my can so I'm careful about how I dispose of things.
Doesn't everyone keep empty cans and bottles around for disposing of oil
and stuff they don't want to put down the drain?? I would have thunk
that was a no-brainer......?

Peter A

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:10:05 AM1/18/07
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In article <1169128351....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
mshar...@gmail.com says...

If you put it down the sink you are asking for a clog. If you have no
other choice, run hot water before, during, and after to make sure the
oil is flushed away. Better, put the oil in a bottle and put it in the
trash.

--
Peter Aitken

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:16:22 AM1/18/07
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"Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Not everybody uses that much oil at home, professor. My town never lost the
"eat fish on Fridays" tradition, so if I want a fish fry, there are a dozen
restaurants nearby which do an excellent job with that dish, and I don't
have to clean up the mess.

As far as paper vs. plastic bags, we sometimes go 2 months without temps
going over 20-25 degrees outside. See if you can figure out the connection.
:-)


Nancy Young

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:17:35 AM1/18/07
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"Peter A" <pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote

> If you put it down the sink you are asking for a clog. If you have no
> other choice, run hot water before, during, and after to make sure the
> oil is flushed away. Better, put the oil in a bottle and put it in the
> trash.

Goomba, I think you need to post that article again, the one that
explains just how bad this grease is for the water treatment facility.

Don't pour it down the drain.

nancy


Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:33:53 AM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> Not everybody uses that much oil at home, professor. My town never lost the
> "eat fish on Fridays" tradition, so if I want a fish fry, there are a dozen
> restaurants nearby which do an excellent job with that dish, and I don't
> have to clean up the mess.
>

And I don't either.. but often need to dispose of meat drippings or
liquids that I don't want to put down the drain. Saving a few empty
bottles or cans for this purpose is hardly difficult.

> As far as paper vs. plastic bags, we sometimes go 2 months without temps
> going over 20-25 degrees outside. See if you can figure out the connection.
> :-)

I have no clue what you think the connection is? My garbage pick up
service comes twice a week no matter what the temp is. My kitchen can is
taken outside as soon as it is filled, also no matter what the temp is.

Pete C.

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:33:52 AM1/18/07
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Put it in a large jug and post a WVO (waste vegetable oil) ad on a local
freecycle list so some yahoo making biodiesel can pick it up.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:40:36 AM1/18/07
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Wet stuff in a paper bag will obviously seep through and foul the trash can.
That's one thing I will not wash in the bathtub, so it has to be done
outdoors. That's impossible at certain temperatures, unless you're out of
your mind.


Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:40:41 AM1/18/07
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Ah.. I'd forgotten that we'd done this topic (probably to death) before!
I tried to find the post with that article in it on deja but no luck
yet. I'll keep looking.
Disposing of used oils is best kept OUT of the water supply.

Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:41:40 AM1/18/07
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Goomba38 said...

> I also don't buy plastic bags for my trash. I use the paper grocery bags
> in my can so I'm careful about how I dispose of things.
> Doesn't everyone keep empty cans and bottles around for disposing of oil
> and stuff they don't want to put down the drain?? I would have thunk
> that was a no-brainer......?


I would have thought using plastic trash bags was a no-brainer!

But then I also have neighbors who won't use curbside trashcans, leaving
trashbags for the crows to shred. Talk about no-brainers!!!

Andy

Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:44:58 AM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> Wet stuff in a paper bag will obviously seep through and foul the trash can.
> That's one thing I will not wash in the bathtub, so it has to be done
> outdoors. That's impossible at certain temperatures, unless you're out of
> your mind.

that's why "wet stuff" gets contained in bottles, cans, or even other
plastic shopping bags before put into the garbage can. My paper bags
often get a folded up bit of newspaper at the bottom as an additional
liner too. Perhaps you just need to take a second to contain your messy
stuff so that you're not adding to your work load or mess level.......?

Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:47:58 AM1/18/07
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Andy wrote:

> I would have thought using plastic trash bags was a no-brainer!
>
> But then I also have neighbors who won't use curbside trashcans, leaving
> trashbags for the crows to shred. Talk about no-brainers!!!
>
> Andy

Thankfully in my community, everyone is required to use the same roll
bins that the trash service provides. No curbside pick up of bags
outside the cans.
I am too cheap to buy plastic garbage bags when I already have the paper
bags available.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:49:23 AM1/18/07
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What work load? I use plastic bags, silly. In general, we go to great
lengths to avoid using more plastic than necessary, even if it involves
teaching cashiers a few things when they try to put a pack of gum in a bag
big enough to 20 rolls of toilet paper. But plastic trash bags are
non-negotiable.


Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:08:26 AM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> What work load? I use plastic bags, silly. In general, we go to great
> lengths to avoid using more plastic than necessary, even if it involves
> teaching cashiers a few things when they try to put a pack of gum in a bag
> big enough to 20 rolls of toilet paper. But plastic trash bags are
> non-negotiable.
>

You implied that your cans required cleaning because of wet stuff thrown
in, which in the cold weather was a problem for you. My kitchen can
doesn't get routinely dirty so it doesn't require frequent washing out.


Peter A

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:09:58 AM1/18/07
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In article <EaqdnXKqks0ZHDLY...@comcast.com>,
rjy...@comcast.net says...

Good point, I had not thought of it.

We pour old oil on the ground out in the woods behind the house, but
many people don't have an appropriate spot to do this.

--
Peter Aitken

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:10:07 AM1/18/07
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Goomba38 <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in
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I can't *believe* you people!!!!!


Tipping used oil down the sink??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Slopping it into your garbage bags?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Where the *hell* do you think that stuff ends up??????


Back in your own frikken waterways (eventually)!! No wonder the USA is a
'world leader' with a 3rd world water supply!!!


The oil comes in a container. It doesn't take a lot of effort to *keep*
that container, and when you have finished with the oil, let it cool and
pour it back *into* said container.


Then get off your lazy arses and take that full container to your local
tip/rubbish dump etc, for *proper* disposal!!!!!


They have (well, we over here have) different areas for disposal of
different wastes.......... including oils.


Think about the bloody environment before you so nonchalantly tip your
used oils down the sink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

'Enjoy today, it was paid for by a veteran'

http://www.beccycole.com/albums/videos/poster_girl.shtml

zxcvbob

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:11:16 AM1/18/07
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Do you know someone who drives a diesel?

Best regards,
Bob

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:13:47 AM1/18/07
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"Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Are you implying that automobiles generally appear to be cleaner after they
are washed? Or, the opposite: Squirrels are smaller than elephants?


Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:18:12 AM1/18/07
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PeterL wrote:

> I can't *believe* you people!!!!!

> Tipping used oil down the sink??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Slopping it into your garbage bags?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Where the *hell* do you think that stuff ends up??????
> Back in your own frikken waterways (eventually)!! No wonder the USA is a
> 'world leader' with a 3rd world water supply!!!
> The oil comes in a container. It doesn't take a lot of effort to *keep*
> that container, and when you have finished with the oil, let it cool and
> pour it back *into* said container.
> Then get off your lazy arses and take that full container to your local
> tip/rubbish dump etc, for *proper* disposal!!!!!
> They have (well, we over here have) different areas for disposal of
> different wastes.......... including oils.
> Think about the bloody environment before you so nonchalantly tip your
> used oils down the sink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Perhaps you accidentally lumped me in with "you people" but take note
that I am the one who suggested pouring the used oil into empty bottles
and cans for proper disposal. At NO time did I say I ever put oil down
my drains.
Ya need a little valium with that rant? LOL

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:20:02 AM1/18/07
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"Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Perhaps he's had a few of those hideous beer-related cocktails he mentioned
yesterday.


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:19:49 AM1/18/07
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>
> I have no clue what you think the connection is? My garbage pick up
> service comes twice a week no matter what the temp is.

Herein lies the inherent problem of why the USA is covered in garbage.


With a family of 5, we used to put our (general rubbish) bin out *once*
a week.

Recycling bin gets picked up every 2nd week.

Now, with just the two of us, we wait till recycling day to put *both*
bins out.

So our bins go out every *2* weeks.


That's one service to your *4*!!!!!!!


Unless you've got 16 kids I can't, for the life of me, see what reason
you'd need to have 2 rubbish collections a week.

If you feel you *need* 2 collections a week, you should *really* look at
your lifestyle and adjust it.

Don't just think about your own bins getting collected twice a week,
think of how many of you there really are, and look at the amount of
'waste' you guys, as a Nation, are producing.

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:21:08 AM1/18/07
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Peter A <pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote in news:MPG.201949c48acac7f99899c3
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You should be ashamed of yourself for even condoning flushing oil down
the sink :-/

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:22:17 AM1/18/07
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"Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote in
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At last, a voice of bloody reasoning!!!

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:25:47 AM1/18/07
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Peter, you should see some of the packaging choices available in stores
here. Some of it borders on being obscene. For instance, one local grocery
store sells what they call a microwave-ready baking potato. It's just a
potato enclosed in some sort of plastic wrap that's theoretically better for
microwaving than other plastic wrap. Oh...and it's already been washed, so
it's a real time saver for busy idiots who don't know how to operate a
faucet. Or whatever.


Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:28:01 AM1/18/07
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PeterL wrote:

>
> Herein lies the inherent problem of why the USA is covered in garbage.
> With a family of 5, we used to put our (general rubbish) bin out *once*
> a week.
> Recycling bin gets picked up every 2nd week.
> Now, with just the two of us, we wait till recycling day to put *both*
> bins out.
> So our bins go out every *2* weeks.
> That's one service to your *4*!!!!!!!
> Unless you've got 16 kids I can't, for the life of me, see what reason
> you'd need to have 2 rubbish collections a week.
> If you feel you *need* 2 collections a week, you should *really* look at
> your lifestyle and adjust it.
> Don't just think about your own bins getting collected twice a week,
> think of how many of you there really are, and look at the amount of
> 'waste' you guys, as a Nation, are producing.
>

You're just looking to pick a fight, I think?

If the community decides on twice a week pick up, perhaps the cans are
smaller? Or perhaps it services a wider variety of family sizes? Or
perhaps the big cans are placed out when full, or only half full by pick
up day...and that varies by family also? My service provides twice a
week pick up, yet we personally only need it once a week. MY family
needs don't dictate how the service runs on the street for the rest of
the families. Our recycle bin can go out each week.
I know that every time I live in a coastal community with lots of
seafood waste, people prefer twice a week pick up. Especially in the hot
summers.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:29:29 AM1/18/07
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"Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Twice as much diesel fuel, to avoid smelly trash cans. Now, there's a good
idea. Who's the biggest waste hauler in the area? Waste Management?


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:35:50 AM1/18/07
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Goomba38 <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in
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True, but you condoned putting it in bottles/cans and throwing it out
with the trash. If everyone had your 'brilliant' idea and threw it out
in the trash, you'd have the same problem as if they'd flushed it down
the sink..

Your way is just slower, is all.


You got the first part right. Put it back into the container from
'whence it came', then get of your lazy asses and drive to the tip and
ask them to dispose of it properly. *DON'T* just chuck it in with the
rest of the trash.

Think about it......... how many people in your town/city?

If 1 in 3 chucked out a couple of 'pints/litres' of used oil ever week
or so, and it was all taken to the local tip with the rest of the
garbage..... what do you think the water table underneath your town/city
would look like with all that oil seeping into it over a period of a
couple of years??


> Ya need a little valium with that rant? LOL


Not at all.

You need a kick in the arse to make you wake up to the enormity of your
waste disposal problem?

I think so.

James Silverton

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:50:25 AM1/18/07
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Hello, PeterL!
You wrote on 18 Jan 2007 15:22:17 GMT:

??>> "Peter A" <pai...@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote
??>>
??>>> If you put it down the sink you are asking for a clog. If
??>>> you have no other choice, run hot water before, during,
??>>> and after to make sure the oil is flushed away. Better,
??>>> put the oil in a bottle and put it in the trash.
??>>
??>> Goomba, I think you need to post that article again, the
??>> one that explains just how bad this grease is for the
??>> water treatment facility.
??>>
??>> Don't pour it down the drain.
??>>
P> At last, a voice of bloody reasoning!!!

IMHO, not pouring grease down a drain is the correct thing to
do to avoid overloading the sewage treatment plant or possibly
clogging up your drains but I wonder what effect quantities of
waste grease have on landfills? Apart from the suggestion of
filtering it and using as diesel fuel, I can't see an
ecologically sound way of grease disposal.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:45:37 AM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
>
> Perhaps he's had a few of those hideous beer-related cocktails he
> mentioned yesterday.
>
>


Go ahead, laugh it off.

You're the one living in a 'World leader' country with 3rd world bloody
living standards.


You can't drink the water out of your taps (how many of you *buy* your
drinking water???), you have shit scattered hell west and crooked all
over your streets, towns, cities and country........... and you laugh at
someone that has the temerity to suggest you clean up your act!!!


Start thinking about how much crap you're throwing out as individuals
each week, and do your damndest to cut it right back.

Or....... everyone can take your "I don't give a fuck" attitude, and the
next generation (most likely your kids if you ever have any) or the ones
after, will be living on *top* of a rubbish tip, instead of having it on
the outskirts of town.

Look at places like India, the Phillipines etc, etc.


That's where you're headed with your head up your arse attitude.

PeterL

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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> "PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
> news:Xns98BDD85D...@218.100.0.53...
>> Goomba38 <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:0oOdneMJD4XOGDLY...@comcast.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I have no clue what you think the connection is? My garbage pick up
>>> service comes twice a week no matter what the temp is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Herein lies the inherent problem of why the USA is covered in
>> garbage.
>>
>>
>> With a family of 5, we used to put our (general rubbish) bin out
>> *once* a week.
>>
>> Recycling bin gets picked up every 2nd week.
>>
>> Now, with just the two of us, we wait till recycling day to put
>> *both* bins out.
>>
>> So our bins go out every *2* weeks.
>>
>>
>> That's one service to your *4*!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> Unless you've got 16 kids I can't, for the life of me, see what
>> reason you'd need to have 2 rubbish collections a week.
>>
>> If you feel you *need* 2 collections a week, you should *really* look
>> at your lifestyle and adjust it.
>>
>> Don't just think about your own bins getting collected twice a week,
>> think of how many of you there really are, and look at the amount of
>> 'waste' you guys, as a Nation, are producing.
>>

>
>

> Peter, you should see some of the packaging choices available in
> stores here. Some of it borders on being obscene. For instance, one
> local grocery store sells what they call a microwave-ready baking
> potato. It's just a potato enclosed in some sort of plastic wrap
> that's theoretically better for microwaving than other plastic wrap.
> Oh...and it's already been washed, so it's a real time saver for busy
> idiots who don't know how to operate a faucet. Or whatever.


If no-one buys them, they'll stop selling them.


Spread the word.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

'Enjoy today, it was paid for by a veteran'

http://www.beccycole.com/albums/videos/poster_girl.shtml

Tori M

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Jan 18, 2007, 10:50:22 AM1/18/07
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Hi... New here.. One thing I have not seen sugested so far is just keeping
the oil unless it smells bad. we save the big oil jug that the old oil came
in and just pour it into that when it is time.

Tori
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Tori M

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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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> Goomba38 <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:0oOdneMJD4XOGDLY...@comcast.com:
>
>
>>
>> I have no clue what you think the connection is? My garbage pick up
>> service comes twice a week no matter what the temp is.
>
>
>
> Herein lies the inherent problem of why the USA is covered in garbage.
>
>
> With a family of 5, we used to put our (general rubbish) bin out *once*
> a week.
>
> Recycling bin gets picked up every 2nd week.
>
> Now, with just the two of us, we wait till recycling day to put *both*
> bins out.
>
> So our bins go out every *2* weeks.
>
>
> That's one service to your *4*!!!!!!!
>
>
> Unless you've got 16 kids I can't, for the life of me, see what reason
> you'd need to have 2 rubbish collections a week.
>
> If you feel you *need* 2 collections a week, you should *really* look at
> your lifestyle and adjust it.
>
> Don't just think about your own bins getting collected twice a week,
> think of how many of you there really are, and look at the amount of
> 'waste' you guys, as a Nation, are producing.

My Garbage is picked up just as yours is. every 2 weeks for recycling every
week for garbage. Dont be such a snot. WI USA

Tori


Dave Smith

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:06:51 AM1/18/07
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Matthew wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>

The sink is the last place to put it. Save it. You can use it again.

If you think you have troubles with them re- arranging your kitchen you
should see what my sister in law did to ours. She very kindly comes to dog
sit for us when we are aware. She is better organized than I am and
because of the arrangement of my spice cupboard she may be under the
impression that there is no organization at all, but she is wrong. I used
the "last used/ most used" system. There are four shelves. Tall bottles go
on the bottom because there is more room and they fit there. The nest shelf
is for the most frequently used herbs and spice, the next one for things
not used as often, and the top is for the things I rarely use. It works
for me. If I am looking for something I just have to think about when was
the last time I used it and that narrows it down to one or two shelves. I
come back to find it rearranged into alphabetical order. That means
cloves, that I use once a year are right at the front of the first shelf,
but paprika and oregano, which I use often, are way at the top.

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:01:07 AM1/18/07
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Goomba38 <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> PeterL wrote:
>
>>
>> Herein lies the inherent problem of why the USA is covered in
>> garbage. With a family of 5, we used to put our (general rubbish) bin
>> out *once* a week.
>> Recycling bin gets picked up every 2nd week.
>> Now, with just the two of us, we wait till recycling day to put
>> *both* bins out.
>> So our bins go out every *2* weeks.
>> That's one service to your *4*!!!!!!!
>> Unless you've got 16 kids I can't, for the life of me, see what
>> reason you'd need to have 2 rubbish collections a week.
>> If you feel you *need* 2 collections a week, you should *really* look
>> at your lifestyle and adjust it.
>> Don't just think about your own bins getting collected twice a week,
>> think of how many of you there really are, and look at the amount of
>> 'waste' you guys, as a Nation, are producing.
>>
> You're just looking to pick a fight, I think?


Not at all.


Just pointing out *facts*.

If you take offence to the fact that someone points out that you, as a
Nation, have an "I don't give a fuck" attitude to waste disposal.....
then that's your problem.

>
> If the community decides on twice a week pick up, perhaps the cans are
> smaller? Or perhaps it services a wider variety of family sizes? Or
> perhaps the big cans are placed out when full, or only half full by
> pick up day...and that varies by family also?


Sounds like a *lot* of excuses to warrant twice weekly pickups.


>My service provides
> twice a week pick up, yet we personally only need it once a week. MY
> family needs don't dictate how the service runs on the street for the
> rest of the families.

You, as a community member, and if you actually gave a shit about your
community and Country....... would start to cut back on your *own*
waste, and actively encourage all around you to do the same........ no
matter *what* size the family.

>Our recycle bin can go out each week.
> I know that every time I live in a coastal community with lots of
> seafood waste, people prefer twice a week pick up. Especially in the
> hot summers.


*That's* a crock of shit!!! *I* live in a 'coastal community', and here
its summer at the moment, and we have had (as we always do) a large
amount of "seafood waste".

People (with a brain) bag it and put it in their freezer to wait for
collection day. The lazy arsed ones just chuck it in their bin and put
up with the stink.


What I see as the underlying factor in your 'excuses' is pure laziness.


Start thinking about what *you* can do to make a difference to the
problem.


Like the old saying........ "Think globally, act locally".

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:04:12 AM1/18/07
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"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in
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>
> IMHO, not pouring grease down a drain is the correct thing to
> do to avoid overloading the sewage treatment plant or possibly
> clogging up your drains but I wonder what effect quantities of
> waste grease have on landfills? Apart from the suggestion of
> filtering it and using as diesel fuel, I can't see an
> ecologically sound way of grease disposal.
>


There are many, *Many* firms around that recycle waste oil. The local tip
is used as a collection point.

Sheldon

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:07:21 AM1/18/07
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Matthew wrote:
> they left us with the deep fryer.

>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?

No! Only imbeciles and tenants pour fats into the plumbing waste lines

Pour spent cooking fat out on the ground in a corner of your yard. The
birds and other wildlife will thank you and any that seeps into the
ground will be quickly dispatched by micro orgasms.

Sheldon

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:06:40 AM1/18/07
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"Tori M" <I...@greewith.nan> wrote in
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>> Unless you've got 16 kids I can't, for the life of me, see what
>> reason you'd need to have 2 rubbish collections a week.
>>
>> If you feel you *need* 2 collections a week, you should *really* look
>> at your lifestyle and adjust it.
>>
>> Don't just think about your own bins getting collected twice a week,
>> think of how many of you there really are, and look at the amount of
>> 'waste' you guys, as a Nation, are producing.
>
> My Garbage is picked up just as yours is. every 2 weeks for recycling
> every week for garbage.

Maybe Goomba38 lives in a 'high density rubbish area'???

>Dont be such a snot.


I'm not.


> WI USA
>


Que'?? 'WI'??

Tori M

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:12:51 AM1/18/07
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> Que'?? 'WI'??

Sorry I forget not everyone had all that drilled into their head at an early
age :P Wisconsin.

Tori


JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:13:32 AM1/18/07
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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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All environmental commentary is viewed with suspicion in this country by the
54% (reich-wing idiots). So, all environmental threats are fictional, and
nothing matters.


Goomba38

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:16:30 AM1/18/07
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PeterL wrote:

> You, as a community member, and if you actually gave a shit about your
> community and Country....... would start to cut back on your *own*
> waste, and actively encourage all around you to do the same........ no
> matter *what* size the family.
>

Yet you assume I don't? You're so busy patting yourself on the back that
you're imagining no one is as concerned or doing anything as much as you.

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:21:43 AM1/18/07
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"Tori M" <I...@greewith.nan> wrote in
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>
>> Que'?? 'WI'??
>
> Sorry I forget not everyone had all that drilled into their head at an
> early age :P Wisconsin.
>


Thanks :-)

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:26:30 AM1/18/07
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Goomba38 <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in
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Well, up to now you haven't said a frikken word otherwise!!

What the hell is one to think, hey?

*Especially* when you condone throwing out waste oil with the trash.


> You're so busy patting yourself on the back


That's *rather* defensive of you, isn't it?

*I* think globally, and *I* act locally.

Stop being so defensive of your wasteful habits, and start doing the
same.

Then encourage all around you to do the same.

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:27:34 AM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
>
> All environmental commentary is viewed with suspicion in this country
> by the 54% (reich-wing idiots). So, all environmental threats are
> fictional, and nothing matters.

Yep, the old "Ostrich Syndrome".

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:38:21 AM1/18/07
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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
news:Xns98BD1902...@218.100.0.53...

> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:M0Nrh.838$ya1...@news02.roc.ny:
>
>
>>
>>
>> All environmental commentary is viewed with suspicion in this country
>> by the 54% (reich-wing idiots). So, all environmental threats are
>> fictional, and nothing matters.
>
>
>
> Yep, the old "Ostrich Syndrome".
>
> Peter Lucas


I think it stems from being raised with the idea that faith can take care of
everything. This, of course, leads people to a life of laziness, delegating
important thinking to deities and politicians. Example: Bush & Cheney will
not reveal which corporate "advisors" took part in energy policy meetings
which resulted in important regulations being tinkered with in ways which
benefit only the corporations involved. The White House considers the list
of attendees to be classified information. Pardon moi???

Ask people here what they think about it, and many will say "Yeah OK. So,
what's for lunch?"


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:42:28 AM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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I'd probably be one of them.

You guys vote them in!!!

Same as we do here.

("Cept our voting is *compulsory*!!)

If they aren't doing what you want them to do, vote them out.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:59:44 AM1/18/07
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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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> Peter Lucas


I keep trying, but they all turn out to be the same. Sort of like the Smiths
in the movie "Matrix".


biig

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Jan 18, 2007, 12:04:48 PM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> "Goomba38" <goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:psmdnS853N52GjLY...@comcast.com...
> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >
> >> Wet stuff in a paper bag will obviously seep through and foul the trash
> >> can. That's one thing I will not wash in the bathtub, so it has to be
> >> done outdoors. That's impossible at certain temperatures, unless you're
> >> out of your mind.
> >
> > that's why "wet stuff" gets contained in bottles, cans, or even other
> > plastic shopping bags before put into the garbage can. My paper bags often
> > get a folded up bit of newspaper at the bottom as an additional liner too.
> > Perhaps you just need to take a second to contain your messy stuff so that
> > you're not adding to your work load or mess level.......?
>
> What work load? I use plastic bags, silly. In general, we go to great
> lengths to avoid using more plastic than necessary, even if it involves
> teaching cashiers a few things when they try to put a pack of gum in a bag
> big enough to 20 rolls of toilet paper. But plastic trash bags are
> non-negotiable.

Our trash service will pick up bags or stuff in big garbage cans. I
use the plastic bags that our groceries get packed in to line the
kitchen can, and use bread bags and other small plastic bags to get rid
of messy things. I rarely have to buy the big garbage bags. One store
I shop at bags and the other doesn't. I take recycled bags from the
store that bags, to pack my groceries at the no frills store. I still
have bags left over and wish our recycle facility would take those
too......Sharon

Nancy Young

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Jan 18, 2007, 12:24:46 PM1/18/07
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"biig" <bi...@mnsi.net> wrote

> I shop at bags and the other doesn't. I take recycled bags from the
> store that bags, to pack my groceries at the no frills store. I still
> have bags left over and wish our recycle facility would take those
> too......

Are you sure there aren't recycle bins at the store where you
shop? The stores around here do ... you just bring in your
empty plastic grocery bags.

nancy


merryb

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Jan 18, 2007, 12:25:00 PM1/18/07
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When I was working at a local restaurant, a guy came in wanting to know
if he could have our old oil- he refined it into bio-diesel- maybe you
could find someone who would be interested in getting it from you.

Dave Smith

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Jan 18, 2007, 12:28:48 PM1/18/07
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biig wrote:

> Our trash service will pick up bags or stuff in big garbage cans. I
> use the plastic bags that our groceries get packed in to line the
> kitchen can, and use bread bags and other small plastic bags to get rid
> of messy things. I rarely have to buy the big garbage bags. One store
> I shop at bags and the other doesn't. I take recycled bags from the
> store that bags, to pack my groceries at the no frills store. I still
> have bags left over and wish our recycle facility would take those
> too......Sharon

One of the stores where I shop sells bags. I try to remember to take my
own when I shop there. We also have a string back and some cloth bags that
I try to remember to take along with me. They make things a lot easier. I
would rather have two big bags of groceries to haul into the house than 10
bags with only one or two items in each. We even have a back from the
liquor store that has 6 pockets sown into it for carrying bottles without
them clanging together.

It's odd, but when we were first married and I used to do the chopping, I
used to be able to get a week's groceries into 2 or 3 large paper bags.
When they switched to plastic bags they could only get half as much into
them so we got twice as many bags. Now the plastic bags are even flimsier
and carry half as much as the original plastic bags. I have gone from 2-3
paper bags to 12 or more plastic bags, often with several bags with only 1
or 2 small items each.

Dawn

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Jan 18, 2007, 12:45:24 PM1/18/07
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I'd call the local waste management office and ask what their accepted
procedure is. Some places I've lived have had either a collection point
for things like that, or a pickup service of some sort -- on a given
date or by appointment. They'll also tell you what kind of container to
put it in.

Using the bottle it came in isn't always practical, especially if you've
only used half the contents.

Dawn

Reg

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Jan 18, 2007, 12:46:53 PM1/18/07
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James Silverton wrote:

> IMHO, not pouring grease down a drain is the correct thing to do to
> avoid overloading the sewage treatment plant or possibly clogging up
> your drains but I wonder what effect quantities of waste grease have on
> landfills? Apart from the suggestion of filtering it and using as diesel
> fuel, I can't see an ecologically sound way of grease disposal.

Dumping it down the drain isn't ecologically unsound, it's
just not a nice thing to do to your local sewage system. It
wouldn't hurt the environment a bit.

It's also perfectly ecologically sound to put it into a
container and throw it away.

--
Reg

Puester

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Jan 18, 2007, 1:08:58 PM1/18/07
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Matthew wrote:
> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew
>


Pour it down the sink ONLY if you have a septic tank so you are damaging
only your own system and pipes.

Oil is bad for water treatment systems. Pour it into empty jars or
bottles and throw it in the trash OR find someone who recycles oil for
fueling a car and donate it. (I doubt you will generate enough oil to
make the latter suggestion workable.)

pfoley

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Jan 18, 2007, 1:14:57 PM1/18/07
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"Matthew" <mshar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169128351....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew
===============
I always save a couple of coffee cans for that purpose; to pour fat into it,
cover it and put out with the rubbish.
>


Omelet

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Jan 18, 2007, 1:20:05 PM1/18/07
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In article <1169128351....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Matthew" <mshar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew

Gods no, do NOT pour it down the sink!!! Not unless you want a plumbing
bill!

Pour it into a large, heavy duty ziplock and toss it in the trash...

or pour it outside somewhere out of the way where it can be eaten by
wild critters or biodegrade.

When I had chickens, I'd mix it with scratch grains and feed it to them.

Lately, I've been following Pastorio's advice and pouring on top of a
couple of old railroad ties lining the front edge of my driveway.

I use peanut oil. MUCH better than canola!
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Omelet

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Jan 18, 2007, 1:22:10 PM1/18/07
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In article <45AF854F...@snet.net>, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
wrote:

> Matthew wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> > organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> > Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> > let them cook.
> >
> > This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> > things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> > with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
> >
> > How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Matthew
>

> Put it in a large jug and post a WVO (waste vegetable oil) ad on a local
> freecycle list so some yahoo making biodiesel can pick it up.

Excellent idea, altho' I did try that and he never answered. He wanted
large amounts.

You could filter it and offer it to some local soap makers too.

Omelet

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Jan 18, 2007, 2:10:04 PM1/18/07
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In article <Xns98BDBE04...@218.100.0.53>,
PeterL <inbr...@home.oz> wrote:

> I can't *believe* you people!!!!!
>
>
> Tipping used oil down the sink??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Slopping it into your garbage bags?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Where the *hell* do you think that stuff ends up??????
>
>
> Back in your own frikken waterways (eventually)!! No wonder the USA is a
> 'world leader' with a 3rd world water supply!!!
>
>
> The oil comes in a container. It doesn't take a lot of effort to *keep*
> that container, and when you have finished with the oil, let it cool and
> pour it back *into* said container.
>
>
> Then get off your lazy arses and take that full container to your local
> tip/rubbish dump etc, for *proper* disposal!!!!!
>
>
> They have (well, we over here have) different areas for disposal of
> different wastes.......... including oils.
>
>
> Think about the bloody environment before you so nonchalantly tip your
> used oils down the sink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas

Peter,

Those recycling centers are not common here...

unfortunately. :-(

It's why I preferred to feed it to my chooks when I had them.

Come to think of it, that chook flock running loose across the street
would probably appreciate it.

As for pouring it on the ground, we are talking _food_ oil here, not
motor oil! It biodegrades just fine and is harmless to the environment.
:-)

Omelet

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Jan 18, 2007, 2:12:10 PM1/18/07
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In article <1169136441.5...@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Sheldon" <PENM...@aol.com> wrote:

Agreed. :-)

Mix it with bird seed. The wild birds can use the fat to keep warm this
time of year.

Nancy Young

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Jan 18, 2007, 2:33:03 PM1/18/07
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"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote

> Excellent idea, altho' I did try that and he never answered. He wanted
> large amounts.

Frankly, I don't think it's such a great idea to drive around
burning gasoline to get rid of a couple of quarts of vegetable
oil. That is what we're talking about here. Every single
person who uses oil is supposed to drive who knows where
to drop it off. Or pick it up. What a waste.

Pouring it in the yard. I'd have to work up to that. Luckily
I hardly ever deep fry anything.

nancy


Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 2:42:07 PM1/18/07
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Nancy Young said...

> Pouring it in the yard.


Nonsense!!!

Try putting a few tablespoons of wasted oil on a paper plate and put it in
the yard first! See what shows up!

Andy

Paul M. Cook

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:06:25 PM1/18/07
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"Matthew" <mshar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169128351....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?


It is 100% biodegradable. It can go in the trash, or pick a corner of your
back yard and just dump it. Won't harm anything or anyone.

Paul


Cindi - HappyMamatoThree

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:10:58 PM1/18/07
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns98BC5CA...@216.196.97.136...
> Matthew said...

>
>> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
>
> I'd suggest pouring it into empty large soda bottles and throw away with
> the
> trash.

I would say that this is a good way if you don't have a reclycer in your
area. A better way is to recycle of course =-) look and see if you have a
local cooking oil recycler. It has many uses in the animal feed market, and
in biofuels in areas that have people using biofuels, in the San Francisco
area you can look on this page for local drop offs...
http://www.ebmud.com/wastewater/residential_pollution_prevention/residential_FOG_drop_off/default.htm

Or it is also easy to dispose of it by pouring it into clay cat litter,
using the plastic cat litter container about half filled with litter, adding
more as needed to absorb the oil. Then put the lid back on the container and
throw out with your regular trash.

Just my suggestions.

Cindi
>
> Andy
>


Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:28:57 PM1/18/07
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
> It is 100% biodegradable. It can go in the trash, or pick a corner of your
> back yard and just dump it. Won't harm anything or anyone.

Jeeze, I hope so. Otherwise it'll play hell in your intestines.

Cindy Hamilton

Mark Thorson

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:29:27 PM1/18/07
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Ants?

Mark Thorson

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:36:56 PM1/18/07
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Matthew wrote:
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?

I haven't read all of the articles in this
ridiculous thread, so my apologies if someone
already suggested this, but . . .

You can burn it in certain types of oil lamps,
the primitive type usually made from ceramic
or cast brass that has a short wick which is
almost horizontal from the oil supply. There
might be a problem using the 19th-century style
lamp with the vertical wick -- I haven't tried
that, but those generally use lighter fuels.

I concur with the others who say don't pour
it down the drain, and go ahead and pour it
in your yard.

MOMPEAGRAM

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:41:04 PM1/18/07
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"Matthew" <mshar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169128351....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew
>
NO, no, no no! What I do is keep the jug the oil came in and pour it
back into that before putting in the garbage. Someone might like to have
it for their car, too.

--
My Word
in
FERGUS/HARLINGEN
http://www.mompeagram.homestead.com/index.html


Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 3:58:39 PM1/18/07
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Mark Thorson said...


Bigger!!!

Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:10:09 PM1/18/07
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Cindi - HappyMamatoThree said...

> Just my suggestions.
>
> Cindi


Cindi,

Actually, I'd forgotten, in town we have a twice annual toxic materials
collection. If folks can store wasted oils for a period of time, that would
be the place to drop it off.

On the bright side, I don't deep fry anymore (for the time being), so I'm
not polluting as much as major crapsters like your big mac type folk.

All the best,

Andy

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:13:14 PM1/18/07
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns98BCA46...@216.196.97.136...

Vegetable oil is not toxic, as has been pointed out a half dozen times (so
far) in this discussion. It can be poured on the ground.


Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:18:51 PM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom said...


What part of "wasted oils" didn't you understand? No telling what's in it
now, is there???

Fresh cooking oils are a different matter.

Andy

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:22:01 PM1/18/07
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns98BCA5E...@216.196.97.136...


Sorry. I saw you say you didn't fry any more, so I assumed that you were
only referring to cooking oils.


Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:25:31 PM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom said...

> Sorry. I saw you say you didn't fry any more, so I assumed that you were
> only referring to cooking oils.


I fried in the early 70s. What of it?

Andy

Sheldon

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:26:35 PM1/18/07
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Puester wrote:

> Matthew wrote:
> >
> > We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> > organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> > Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> > let them cook.
> >
> > This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> > things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> > with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
> >
> > How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
> Pour it down the sink ONLY if you have a septic tank so you are damaging
> only your own system and pipes.
>
> Oil is bad for water treatment systems. Pour it into empty jars or
> bottles and throw it in the trash OR find someone who recycles oil for
> fueling a car and donate it.

Nope, they only take petroleum oils... I think only WOP car crankcases
take olive oil. hehe

Most restaurants, especially the fast food monsters, contract with the
pet food company fat brokers to collect their spent cooking fat. The
small neighborhood eateries usually have to pay a fee for collection,
they are not permitted to dump cooking fat with their regular trash.
The larger food venders like the golden arches and Booger King generate
mega gallons, and so in those volumes they can sell their spent cooking
fat for a relatively small price. If they get caught dumping illegally
the the fines and prison terms are massive, so they don't

If not for the filtered french fry/fish fry fat sprayed on your pet's
kibbles they wouldn't eat it. vegetable and animal fat (new and used)
is a huge business. Those fats are also used for producing the most
costly soaps and cosmetics... next time yoose ladies gloss your lips
don't be shocked to discover your hooker red contains about 50% spent
french fry fat, same with your bath soaps and conditioning shampoos...
it's no accident that Colgate makes Science Diet pet food. Colgate
buys futures in animal fat worldwide, your wrinkle cream probably
contains camel fat, yak fat, you name the breed it's in there.

Sheldon

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:35:12 PM1/18/07
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns98BCA70...@216.196.97.136...


Oy. Here we go again.

Cindi suggested a way of getting rid of cooking oil. You commented that it
could be taken to a toxic waste facility, and in the same message, you
mentioned fried foods. That, and the fact that this whole discussion is
about cooking oil led ME to think you were talking about cooking oils, not
"toxic" ones like used motor oil. Then, I pointed out that cooking oils were
*not* toxic. You said "no telling what's in it", which is true, but also
silly. Who adds toxins to their worn out cooking oil?

After all this, you think I'm disputing the fact that you used to fry foods?
What kind of conclusion is that?


Andy

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:45:04 PM1/18/07
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JoeSpareBedroom said...

> Oy. Here we go again.


No we don't.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 4:50:58 PM1/18/07
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns98BCAA5...@216.196.97.136...

> JoeSpareBedroom said...
>
>> Oy. Here we go again.
>
>
> No we don't.


What is it with you? When *you* explain something in a way that's not clear
or makes no sense, you get mad at other people.


cybercat

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:03:46 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You're splitting hairs. Andy knows it is not toxic (as you know).

Petty, petty, petty.

What he meant (of course) is that his town collects things that are
problematic to dispose of, twice a year.

Don't you have something better to do?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Tonia Fischer

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:02:54 PM1/18/07
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"Matthew" <mshar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew

>http://www.ehow.com/how_15918_dispose-used-cooking.html


JoeSpareBedroom

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"cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yawn. Nice try.


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:01:22 PM1/18/07
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Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> In article <Xns98BDBE04...@218.100.0.53>,
> PeterL <inbr...@home.oz> wrote:
>
>> I can't *believe* you people!!!!!
>>
>>
>> Tipping used oil down the sink??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> Slopping it into your garbage bags?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> Where the *hell* do you think that stuff ends up??????
>>
>>
>> Back in your own frikken waterways (eventually)!! No wonder the USA
>> is a 'world leader' with a 3rd world water supply!!!
>>
>>
>> The oil comes in a container. It doesn't take a lot of effort to
>> *keep* that container, and when you have finished with the oil, let
>> it cool and pour it back *into* said container.
>>
>>
>> Then get off your lazy arses and take that full container to your
>> local tip/rubbish dump etc, for *proper* disposal!!!!!
>>
>>
>> They have (well, we over here have) different areas for disposal of
>> different wastes.......... including oils.
>>
>>
>> Think about the bloody environment before you so nonchalantly tip
>> your used oils down the sink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Lucas
>
> Peter,
>
> Those recycling centers are not common here...
>
> unfortunately. :-(

One has to wonder why.

With a population of over 250M, you'd think local, State and Federal
authorities would be thinking ahead to the problems that amount of
people are going to cause down the track.


>
> It's why I preferred to feed it to my chooks when I had them.
>
> Come to think of it, that chook flock running loose across the street
> would probably appreciate it.


Chooks...... drinking leftover oil....???!!!

Sudden picture in my head...... chook, stuffed to the gills with oil,
hit it with a flame and *Presto*!! Instant deep fried chicken!!


>
> As for pouring it on the ground, we are talking _food_ oil here, not
> motor oil! It biodegrades just fine and is harmless to the
> environment.
>:-)


Or so they tell you :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

'Enjoy today, it was paid for by a veteran'

http://www.beccycole.com/albums/videos/poster_girl.shtml

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:08:29 PM1/18/07
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"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> It's why I preferred to feed it to my chooks when I had them.
>
> Come to think of it, that chook flock running loose across the street
> would probably appreciate it.


Why do you choose to use the word "chooks" to describe chickens?


meeee

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:14:49 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's a customary colloquialism used by the majority of Australians. Are you
Australian?


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:12:58 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>>
>> You guys vote them in!!!
>>
>> Same as we do here.
>>
>> ("Cept our voting is *compulsory*!!)
>>
>> If they aren't doing what you want them to do, vote them out.
>>
>> Peter Lucas
>
>
> I keep trying, but they all turn out to be the same. Sort of like the
> Smiths in the movie "Matrix".
>


I know what you mean.

It comes down to "The devil you know" type of thing.

Over here, I think that John Howards (the Prime Minister) days are
numbered, now that we have a Leader of the 'Opposition' (Kevin Rudd)
that has got a modicum of intelligence.

All Rudd (my local Federal Member BTW) has to do is say "I'll give you
your guns back", and he'll have my vote!!! :-)

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:17:03 PM1/18/07
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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:4INrh.790$B25...@news01.roc.ny:
>
>
>>>
>>> You guys vote them in!!!
>>>
>>> Same as we do here.
>>>
>>> ("Cept our voting is *compulsory*!!)
>>>
>>> If they aren't doing what you want them to do, vote them out.
>>>
>>> Peter Lucas
>>
>>
>> I keep trying, but they all turn out to be the same. Sort of like the
>> Smiths in the movie "Matrix".
>>
>
>
> I know what you mean.
>
> It comes down to "The devil you know" type of thing.
>
> Over here, I think that John Howards (the Prime Minister) days are
> numbered, now that we have a Leader of the 'Opposition' (Kevin Rudd)
> that has got a modicum of intelligence.
>
> All Rudd (my local Federal Member BTW) has to do is say "I'll give you
> your guns back", and he'll have my vote!!! :-)
>
>
> --
> Peter Lucas


Yeah....that was funny. They take away your guns, but do they do anything
about things which cause more deaths? Are your DWI laws frightening enough?


JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:17:48 PM1/18/07
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"meeee" <please...@youknowyouwantto.gov.au> wrote in message
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I know what it means, but I thought Om was from Texas. Perhaps she just
likes the sound of the palabra.


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:16:20 PM1/18/07
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"merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in
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>
> PeterL wrote:
>> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in
>> news:h4SdncdTo6ChCjLY...@comcast.com:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > IMHO, not pouring grease down a drain is the correct thing to
>> > do to avoid overloading the sewage treatment plant or possibly
>> > clogging up your drains but I wonder what effect quantities of
>> > waste grease have on landfills? Apart from the suggestion of
>> > filtering it and using as diesel fuel, I can't see an
>> > ecologically sound way of grease disposal.
>> >
>>
>>
>> There are many, *Many* firms around that recycle waste oil. The local
>> tip is used as a collection point.
>>


> When I was working at a local restaurant, a guy came in wanting to
> know if he could have our old oil- he refined it into bio-diesel-
> maybe you could find someone who would be interested in getting it
> from you.


We have collection points at the local rubbish tip........ and there are
quite a few firms in town that collect large amounts of commercial oils.


Myself........ I use oil for deep frying about twice a year (ie, hardly
ever)... so when I do, I just cool it, put it back in the bottle and
take it to the tip when I do a (green) rubbish run, or whenever I'm
going past it.

biig

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:25:14 PM1/18/07
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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> biig wrote:
>
> > Our trash service will pick up bags or stuff in big garbage cans. I
> > use the plastic bags that our groceries get packed in to line the
> > kitchen can, and use bread bags and other small plastic bags to get rid
> > of messy things. I rarely have to buy the big garbage bags. One store
> > I shop at bags and the other doesn't. I take recycled bags from the
> > store that bags, to pack my groceries at the no frills store. I still
> > have bags left over and wish our recycle facility would take those
> > too......Sharon
>
> One of the stores where I shop sells bags. I try to remember to take my
> own when I shop there. We also have a string back and some cloth bags that
> I try to remember to take along with me. They make things a lot easier. I
> would rather have two big bags of groceries to haul into the house than 10
> bags with only one or two items in each. We even have a back from the
> liquor store that has 6 pockets sown into it for carrying bottles without
> them clanging together.
>
> It's odd, but when we were first married and I used to do the chopping, I
> used to be able to get a week's groceries into 2 or 3 large paper bags.
> When they switched to plastic bags they could only get half as much into
> them so we got twice as many bags. Now the plastic bags are even flimsier
> and carry half as much as the original plastic bags. I have gone from 2-3
> paper bags to 12 or more plastic bags, often with several bags with only 1
> or 2 small items each.

I hear ya.....Most weeks I only get 1 or 2 bags that are ok for wet
garbage, but I double the ones that would leak and use them to bag my
groceries at the no frills. They sell bags and sometimes have boxes. I
can't get a full box out of the shopping cart and into my car because of
arthritis, so never take a box. I didn't buy the canvas ones for money
reasons, since I can use the bags I get from the other store. I use
some of the "leakers" for dry garbage, but with just two of us, we don't
produce much. We have recycling in our village, finally, and I'm
careful to make sure I don't put something into the garbage that should
go into recycling...

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:25:34 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:gmSrh.814
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Why do you choose to use a Spanish term, instead of the English word?


Besides, palabra can also be used for..........

1. palabra

a celebratory exclamation.
loosely translated: "fuck yeah, chica!"


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=palabra

Puester

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:39:26 PM1/18/07
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Skunks.

PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:39:37 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
>
> Yeah....that was funny.


Very *un*funny for those of us here :-/


>They take away your guns, but do they do
> anything about things which cause more deaths? Are your DWI laws
> frightening enough?


DWI?? Is that the same as DD, DUI??

Drunk Driving, Driving Under the Influence?? If that's the case, those Laws
are a *joke*!!! Most 'serial offenders' keep getting slaps on the wrists.

Bob (this one)

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:37:47 PM1/18/07
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Matthew wrote:
> Hi:
>
> We have friends who like to show up every year and destroy the
> organization of our kitchen, making it more compatible with their own.
> Its worth the trouble because we enjoy their company and its nice to
> let them cook.
>
> This year they bought "us" a deep fryer and spent some time making
> things like Zeppoles and fried fish. The problem is that they left us
> with the deep fryer filled with used canola oil.
>
> How do we throw away the oil? Can we just pour it down the sink?

Why are you throwing it away? One weekend's usage is
certainly not exhausting the useful life of the oil. Filter
it (warm, not hot) through coffee filters, wipe out the
fryer, making sure to get the little bits of browned stuff,
and save the oil. Store it in a cool, dark place in a
container filled to the top (don't want air in the
container). It'll be good for several more uses over many
months.

Restaurants filter oils and use them for a week or more,
even in very heavy usage like 10 or 12 hours a day. In fact,
fresh oil is not as good for frying as older oil. Fresh oil
won't brown as well. Check out Russ Parson's book "How to
Read a French Fry" for the chemistry behind it.

Pastorio

JoeSpareBedroom

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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:zlSrh.864$ya1...@news02.roc.ny:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Yeah....that was funny.
>
>
> Very *un*funny for those of us here :-/
>
>
>>They take away your guns, but do they do
>> anything about things which cause more deaths? Are your DWI laws
>> frightening enough?
>
>
> DWI?? Is that the same as DD, DUI??
>
> Drunk Driving, Driving Under the Influence?? If that's the case, those
> Laws
> are a *joke*!!! Most 'serial offenders' keep getting slaps on the wrists.
> Peter Lucas


The laws are rougher here, but still, certain droids keep pretending that
law abiding gun owners are the cause of more deaths than cancer, DUI and
war. Meanwhile, the FBI's stats show that violent crimes by legal gun owners
amount to like 2 a year. :-)


JoeSpareBedroom

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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:gmSrh.814
> $B25...@news01.roc.ny:
>
>> "meeee" <please...@youknowyouwantto.gov.au> wrote in message
>> news:tjSrh.2988$u8....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xdSrh.863$ya1...@news02.roc.ny...
>>>> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:omp_omelet-21EAA...@news.giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's why I preferred to feed it to my chooks when I had them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Come to think of it, that chook flock running loose across the
> street
>>>>> would probably appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why do you choose to use the word "chooks" to describe chickens?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's a customary colloquialism used by the majority of Australians.
> Are
>>> you Australian?
>>>
>>
>> I know what it means, but I thought Om was from Texas. Perhaps she
> just
>> likes the sound of the palabra.
>>
>
>
> Why do you choose to use a Spanish term, instead of the English word?


I just liked the sound! :-)


PeterL

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:55:14 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:nSSrh.866
$ya1...@news02.roc.ny:


>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you choose to use the word "chooks" to describe chickens?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a customary colloquialism used by the majority of Australians.
>> Are
>>>> you Australian?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know what it means, but I thought Om was from Texas. Perhaps she
>> just
>>> likes the sound of the palabra.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why do you choose to use a Spanish term, instead of the English word?
>
>
> I just liked the sound! :-)
>


Maybe Om does too??

Over here, 'Chook/Chooky' is also a term of affection.

Farm1

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:44:54 PM1/18/07
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in

> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> > It's why I preferred to feed it to my chooks when I had them.


> >
> > Come to think of it, that chook flock running loose across the
street
> > would probably appreciate it.
>
>
> Why do you choose to use the word "chooks" to describe chickens?

The word chooks has been used because a resident idiot of the aus.food
group decided to cross post a thread that originally only appearred in
rec.food.cooking. Chooks is a much used Australian word for hens.
The word used by Australians for chickens is chickens. Americans seem
to call chickens, hens, and roosters by the same name for some unknown
reason.

JoeSpareBedroom

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Jan 18, 2007, 6:05:26 PM1/18/07
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"PeterL" <inbr...@home.oz> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:nSSrh.866
> $ya1...@news02.roc.ny:
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you choose to use the word "chooks" to describe chickens?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a customary colloquialism used by the majority of Australians.
>>> Are
>>>>> you Australian?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know what it means, but I thought Om was from Texas. Perhaps she
>>> just
>>>> likes the sound of the palabra.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why do you choose to use a Spanish term, instead of the English word?
>>
>>
>> I just liked the sound! :-)
>>
>
>
> Maybe Om does too??
>
> Over here, 'Chook/Chooky' is also a term of affection.
> --
> Peter Lucas


Peter, my little chook!


JoeSpareBedroom

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"Farm1" <please@askifyouwannaknow> wrote in message
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You lost me with that last thing. Are you saying that the word "chicken" is
inappropriate when describing the birds without designating gender? If
that's the case, than what about saying "deer", instead of buck or doe?


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