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modom (palindrome guy)

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Jan 7, 2009, 11:10:21 AM1/7/09
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Eating squirrel meat is on the rise in Britain:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/dining/07squirrel.html?ref=dining

"While some have difficulty with the cuteness versus deliciousness
ratio — that adorable little face, those itty-bitty claws — many feel
that eating squirrel is a way to do something good for the environment
while enjoying a unique gastronomical experience.

"With literally millions of squirrels rampaging throughout England,
Scotland and Wales at any given time, squirrels need to be controlled
by culls. This means that hunters, gamekeepers, trappers and the
Forestry Commission (the British equivalent of forest rangers) provide
a regular supply of the meat to British butchers, restaurants, pâté
and pasty makers and so forth.

"The situation is more than simply a matter of having too many
squirrels. In fact, there is a war raging in Squirreltown: invading
interlopers (gray squirrels introduced from North America over the
past century or more) are crowding out a British icon, the indigenous
red squirrel immortalized by Beatrix Potter and cherished by
generations since. The grays take over the reds’ habitat, eat
voraciously and harbor a virus named squirrel parapox (harmless to
humans) that does not harm grays but can devastate reds. (Reports
indicate, though, that the reds are developing resistance.)

"“When the grays show up, it puts the reds out of business,” said
Rufus Carter, managing director of the Patchwork Traditional Food
Company, a company based in Wales that plans to offer squirrel and
hazelnut pâté on its British Web site, patchwork-pate.co.uk."

Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
throughout England," and shudder.
--
modom

ambitious when it comes to fiddling with meat

Pennyaline

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Jan 7, 2009, 11:17:32 AM1/7/09
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modom (palindrome guy) wrote:

<snipped the carnage>

> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
> throughout England," and shudder.

Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over there, and shudder.

modom (palindrome guy)

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Jan 7, 2009, 11:33:59 AM1/7/09
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Ever hear of Fergus Henderson?
http://www.stjohnrestaurant.com/home/

There's good stuff to be et in England, I hear.

George Shirley

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Jan 7, 2009, 12:24:54 PM1/7/09
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In return we should immediately commence eating all the aliens the Brits
have gifted us with over the centuries: the red fox, the grackle, the
starling, the English sparrow, and the myriad other immigrants that were
brought in during colonial times to ensure a "feel of home."

Plus they brought the squirrel plague upon themselves, they imported
them from North America.

In addition, protein is protein, regardless of which critter it came off
of. If humans cause the problem it is only right that humans correct the
problem. Pass the squirrel pate please.

Janet Baraclough

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Jan 7, 2009, 12:53:55 PM1/7/09
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from "modom (palindrome guy)" <use...@michaelodom.net> contains these words:

> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
> throughout England," and shudder.
> --

Yeah.. and they're 6 feet tall and armed with acorns. Run for your lives.

Janet

Pete C.

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Jan 7, 2009, 3:54:46 PM1/7/09
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Squirrel is quite tasty, don't knock it unless you've tried it.

Miche

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Jan 7, 2009, 3:56:20 PM1/7/09
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In article <Ow59l.806$Ex....@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Pennyaline wrote:
> > modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
> >
> > <snipped the carnage>
> >
> >> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
> >> throughout England," and shudder.
> >
> > Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over there, and
> > shudder.
> In return we should immediately commence eating all the aliens the Brits
> have gifted us with over the centuries: the red fox, the grackle, the
> starling, the English sparrow, and the myriad other immigrants that were
> brought in during colonial times to ensure a "feel of home."

Same here, and you can add rabbit, pigs and deer to the mix as well.

Miche

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James Silverton

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Jan 7, 2009, 4:10:57 PM1/7/09
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Miche wrote on Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:56:20 +1300:

>> Pennyaline wrote:
> >> modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
> >>
> >> <snipped the carnage>
> >>
> >>> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels
> >>> rampaging throughout England," and shudder.
> >>
> >> Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over
> >> there, and shudder.
>> In return we should immediately commence eating all the
>> aliens the Brits have gifted us with over the centuries: the red fox,
>> the grackle, the starling, the English sparrow, and the
>> myriad other immigrants that were brought in during colonial
>> times to ensure a "feel of home."

> Same here, and you can add rabbit, pigs and deer to the mix as
> well.

I don't know that the grackle was introduced and the red fox is no real
problem even its singing is worse than that of the American fox.
European pigs are the only aliens in your three. Most nuisance deer and
rabbits are American species. People are still introducing foreign
species without adequate studies of their impact. It is proposed to
revive the Chesapeake oyster industry with foreign oysters and it looks
like the snakehead fish is now established.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

George Shirley

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Jan 7, 2009, 4:35:15 PM1/7/09
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Well, the rabbits and deer were already here but the Spaniards brought
the pig and the horse, both of which are tasty.

George Shirley

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Jan 7, 2009, 4:36:39 PM1/7/09
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As is the zebra mussel in the Great Lakes. How about them fire ants?
I'll trade 80 zillion fire ants for one European pig, even up.

Omelet

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Jan 7, 2009, 7:35:29 PM1/7/09
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In article <49651661$0$17040$ec3e...@unlimited.usenetmonster.com>,
"Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:

Agreed...
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet

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Jan 7, 2009, 7:36:48 PM1/7/09
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In article <BT89l.4655$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
"James Silverton" <not.jim....@verizon.not> wrote:

> I don't know that the grackle was introduced and the red fox is no real
> problem even its singing is worse than that of the American fox.

I'm considering eating grackle. <g>
They've been invading my front yard lately in the afternoon, and
crapping all over my truck!

The lab/chow likes them. If he catches one, all I find is a pile of
feathers.

Blinky the Shark

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Jan 7, 2009, 7:37:26 PM1/7/09
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George Shirley wrote:

> Pennyaline wrote:
>> modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
>>
>> <snipped the carnage>
>>
>>> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels
>>> rampaging throughout England," and shudder.
>>
>> Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over there,
>> and shudder.

See sig.

> In return we should immediately commence eating all the aliens
> the Brits have gifted us with over the centuries: the red fox,
> the grackle, the starling, the English sparrow, and the myriad
> other immigrants that were brought in during colonial times to
> ensure a "feel of home."

The gypsy moth. I don't know where it came from, but I'm perfectly
happy blaming the Brits for it.

--
Blinky
The Worldwide Squirrel Shooters Association
http://thewssa.org

George Shirley

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Jan 7, 2009, 8:21:38 PM1/7/09
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I think the Japanese beetle came here via Britain too.

hahabogus

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Jan 7, 2009, 9:22:38 PM1/7/09
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George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:5vc9l.982$aO6.385
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

Don't forget the lowly earth worm

--

The beet goes on -Alan

George Shirley

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Jan 7, 2009, 9:26:36 PM1/7/09
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I can appreciate the lowly earth worm, it earns its living by churning
my soil and leaving good fertilizer in its wake. Plus its good fish bait
on occasion. Every once in awhile we get a good emigrant.

Kate Connally

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Jan 8, 2009, 2:17:40 PM1/8/09
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I would be willing to take some squirrels off their hands.
They'd have to kill them for me, though. Then they could
skin and clean them and freeze them and overnight them to
me. I've been dying to make real old-fashioned traditional
Brunswick stew with squirrels. Unfortunately I didn't learn
about Brunswick stew until after my squirrel source dried up.
My grandfather used to go hunting and would often bring back
squirrels as well as rabbits. Since he died I don't know
anyone who hunts and would be willing to share a squirrel or
two with me. :-(

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
mailto:conn...@pitt.edu

Kate Connally

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Jan 8, 2009, 2:18:28 PM1/8/09
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Yes, it is. Similar to rabbit.

Wayne Boatwright

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Jan 8, 2009, 2:39:18 PM1/8/09
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On Thu 08 Jan 2009 12:17:40p, Kate Connally told us...

> modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
>> Eating squirrel meat is on the rise in Britain:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/dining/07squirrel.html?ref=dining
>>
>> "While some have difficulty with the cuteness versus deliciousness
>> ratio — that adorable little face, those itty-bitty claws — many feel
>> that eating squirrel is a way to do something good for the environment
>> while enjoying a unique gastronomical experience.
>>
>> "With literally millions of squirrels rampaging throughout England,
>> Scotland and Wales at any given time, squirrels need to be controlled
>> by culls. This means that hunters, gamekeepers, trappers and the
>> Forestry Commission (the British equivalent of forest rangers) provide
>> a regular supply of the meat to British butchers, restaurants, pâté
>> and pasty makers and so forth.
>>
>> "The situation is more than simply a matter of having too many

Tom, this is the zip file:

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This is the file, unzipped:

N:\Admin\IS\Roster\Backup\H74445f.da20090105

There's something really squirrely about this!

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
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Omelet

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Jan 8, 2009, 2:41:37 PM1/8/09
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In article <gk5ji4$m2a$2...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
Kate Connally <conn...@pitt.edu> wrote:

> Pete C. wrote:
> > Pennyaline wrote:
> >> modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
> >>
> >> <snipped the carnage>
> >>
> >>> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
> >>> throughout England," and shudder.
> >> Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over there, and
> >> shudder.
> >
> > Squirrel is quite tasty, don't knock it unless you've tried it.
>
> Yes, it is. Similar to rabbit.
>
> Kate

Better IME... :-d

Chemiker

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Jan 8, 2009, 3:33:40 PM1/8/09
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http://www.arcamax.com/redandrover/s-469980-915355

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

Alex

Gloria P

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Jan 8, 2009, 6:48:36 PM1/8/09
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Kate Connally wrote:
> Pete C. wrote:
>> Pennyaline wrote:
>>> modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped the carnage>
>>>
>>>> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
>>>> throughout England," and shudder.
>>> Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over there, and
>>> shudder.
>>
>> Squirrel is quite tasty, don't knock it unless you've tried it.
>
> Yes, it is. Similar to rabbit.
>
> Kate
>


Ugh. Squirrels are just rats with fluffy tails.

gloria p

blake murphy

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Jan 9, 2009, 10:26:49 AM1/9/09
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check out the 'calvin and hobbes snow art gallery':

<http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/>

your pal,
blake

Omelet

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Jan 9, 2009, 1:15:51 PM1/9/09
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> > I would be willing to take some squirrels off their hands.
> > They'd have to kill them for me, though. Then they could
> > skin and clean them and freeze them and overnight them to
> > me. I've been dying to make real old-fashioned traditional
> > Brunswick stew with squirrels. Unfortunately I didn't learn
> > about Brunswick stew until after my squirrel source dried up.
> > My grandfather used to go hunting and would often bring back
> > squirrels as well as rabbits. Since he died I don't know
> > anyone who hunts and would be willing to share a squirrel or
> > two with me. :-(
> >
> > Kate

Kate.

You need to learn to kill your own food.
While not fun, it's educational and keeps us predators honest. <g>

Omelet

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Jan 9, 2009, 1:18:34 PM1/9/09
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In article <6snhmjF...@mid.individual.net>,
Gloria P <gpue...@comcast.net> wrote:

TASTEY rats with fluffy tails. ;-)
Around here, we call them "tree rats".

Pigeons are "sky rats".

They are delicious too.

I do, however, draw the line at ratus ratus or ratus norwegius. :-P

Chemiker

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Jan 9, 2009, 11:10:26 PM1/9/09
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What a pleasant walk down memory lane!

I salute you, Sir!

Alex


>http://www.arcamax.com/redandrover/s-469980-915355

blake murphy

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Jan 10, 2009, 1:17:51 PM1/10/09
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:10:26 -0600, Chemiker wrote:

> What a pleasant walk down memory lane!
>
> I salute you, Sir!
>
> Alex
>

do you get the comic strip 'frazz' in your area? there's a theory that he
is calvin all grown up.

your pal,
blake

nobody but us chickens

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"Kate Connally" <conn...@pitt.edu> wrote in message
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> Pete C. wrote:
>> Pennyaline wrote:
>>> modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped the carnage>
>>>
>>>> Let us contemplate the image of "millions of squirrels rampaging
>>>> throughout England," and shudder.
>>> Let us contemplate the revised image of eating meat over there, and
>>> shudder.
>>
>> Squirrel is quite tasty, don't knock it unless you've tried it.
>
> Yes, it is. Similar to rabbit.
>
> Kate
>
It was hunted & cooked when I was a kid, they also tried to fool me with
rabbit saying it was chicken. NOPE! I am not adventurous when it comes
to meats. I even remember turtle & frogs legs, I ate veggies & bread only
on those nights.
I'm aggravated with the squirrels right now, they decided that spark plug
wires made a good snack, fixed many $ later. Now to discourage them
from doing it again. CRITTERS!


Chemiker

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Jan 11, 2009, 3:05:08 PM1/11/09
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:17:51 GMT, blake murphy
<blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:10:26 -0600, Chemiker wrote:
>
>> What a pleasant walk down memory lane!
>>
>> I salute you, Sir!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>
>do you get the comic strip 'frazz' in your area? there's a theory that he
>is calvin all grown up.
>

No, but I'll look for it on the 'net.

Alex

blake murphy

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Jan 12, 2009, 1:12:27 PM1/12/09
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i think it's a really good strip, always at least amusing.

the *houston chronicle* has a really nice site here, where you can create
your own selection of strips and get them with one click every day:

<http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComics.mpl>

regrettably, no 'frazz.' but you can see that (and others) at the yahoo
site:

<http://news.yahoo.com/comics/frazz>

you can also sign up to get a selection of strip emailed to you every day.

your pal,
blake

Kate Connally

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Jan 12, 2009, 2:27:46 PM1/12/09
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Omelet wrote:
>>> I would be willing to take some squirrels off their hands.
>>> They'd have to kill them for me, though. Then they could
>>> skin and clean them and freeze them and overnight them to
>>> me. I've been dying to make real old-fashioned traditional
>>> Brunswick stew with squirrels. Unfortunately I didn't learn
>>> about Brunswick stew until after my squirrel source dried up.
>>> My grandfather used to go hunting and would often bring back
>>> squirrels as well as rabbits. Since he died I don't know
>>> anyone who hunts and would be willing to share a squirrel or
>>> two with me. :-(
>>>
>>> Kate
>
> Kate.
>
> You need to learn to kill your own food.
> While not fun, it's educational and keeps us predators honest. <g>

I'm not 100% sure this would be the case, but I've always
said that if I had to kill my own food I would probably end
up and ovo-lacto vegetarian. But who knows how desperate I
would get for bbq pig or something. I could probably live
pretty well without other meats but I *love* pork. Oh, and
I could probably still stand to catch and kill my own fish,
which I did in my younger days, but the last time I went fishing
I was not all that sorry I didn't catch anything, I was getting
a tad upset putting the worms on the hook - swore next time I'd
only fish with salmon eggs or something non-living. It's probably
been 30 years since I last caught and cleaned a fish.

Omelet

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Jan 13, 2009, 7:16:45 PM1/13/09
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In article <gkg5jk$3bd$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
Kate Connally <conn...@pitt.edu> wrote:

It's gotten harder for me too as I've gotten older!
Squirrels tho', I'm ok with them. Fish too.
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

Mike

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Jan 19, 2009, 11:21:25 PM1/19/09
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"Kate Connally" <conn...@pitt.edu> wrote in message
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How about Raccoons? I have 4 local ones I can send you


Kate Connally

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:16:06 PM1/20/09
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Well, I love raccoons. But not to eat. And besides they
don't go into Brunswick stew anyway. ;-)

My great uncle used to have pet raccoons from time to time
(just one at a time). I wouldn't mind having a pet raccoon
if I had the wherewithall to keep on properly and assuming
I got it as a baby and brought it up used to people. I remember
playing with one of his pet raccoons. The only problem was
it bit kind of hard. Didn't bother my uncle as he had big
hard hands and didn't even feel it, so he never really gentled
it.

Kathleen

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:36:32 PM1/20/09
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Kate Connally wrote:

The problem with pet raccoons is that they are vulnerable to everything
that afflicts both cats and dogs. And you could try to immunize them
with both cat and dog innoculations and still have no guarantee that
they would be immune to things like rabies.

And the fact that your uncle's raccoon bit hard had nothing to do with
his hard hands. Our raccoon bit hard enough to break the skin even
though we all had pansy hands, because he was a wild animal. A wild
animal who couldn't be reliably immunized against rabies.

Dogs and cats make good pets because they've been domesticated,
acclimated to life with humans, for thousands of years.

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