OT: Child Locator
Wayne Boatwright
it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
parent can zone in on.
If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
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Steve Pope
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held
> "child locator", but it requires that the child also be carrying
> or wearing a device that the parent can zone in on.
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose
> of the child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do
> pets?
Chips such as are implanted in pets allow identification using
a wand-like device at close range, but they don't allow for
remote sensing nor do they provide location information.
It's a good idea however, and probably technically feasible.
Steve
Blinky the Shark
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator", but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
In the US, they came first for the chipped beef,
And I didn't speak up because I wasn't chipped beef...
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>
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator", but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
It's not legal from what I understand. Just earlier this week while I
was TV-channel surfing, I watched "Dr. Phil" for a few moments and
more. It was an episode about mothering -- extreme
helipcopter-never-leave-my-side mothering vs.
cutting-apron-strings-when-age-appropriate mother. One comment made by
the helicopter mom (I think?) was she wanted to have 'chip' her
child(ren). The more lenient mother said it was not legal.
Sky, who's an empty-nester (woohoo!!!!)
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dsi1
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator", but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
Chances are unlikely that your kid will be abducted by a stranger. This
device was not meant to foil folks with evil intent. Chipping the kid
with a RFID tag won't help much if he/she gets abducted either, except
maybe for identifying a body.
Much more likely is that your kid will wander off while you're at the
beach or zoo or country fair. I would assume that this device was made
specifically for this scenario. We could have used this technology a
couple of times when the kids wandered off when they were little. In a
couple of years we'll probably be able to track the kids with GPS
tracking-enabled cell phones. I can hardly wait.
Wayne Boatwright
Oh, okay. Probably will in the future.
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Wayne Boatwright
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child
>> locator", but it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a
>> device that the parent can zone in on.
>>
>> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of
>> the child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
> In the US, they came first for the chipped beef,
> And I didn't speak up because I wasn't chipped beef...
I understand they're chipping shark now as a part of fusion cuisine.
Better start talking.
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Wayne Boatwright
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child
>> locator", but it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a
>> device that the parent can zone in on.
>>
>> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of
>> the child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> It's not legal from what I understand. Just earlier this week while I
> was TV-channel surfing, I watched "Dr. Phil" for a few moments and
> more. It was an episode about mothering -- extreme
> helipcopter-never-leave-my-side mothering vs.
> cutting-apron-strings-when-age-appropriate mother. One comment made by
> the helicopter mom (I think?) was she wanted to have 'chip' her
> child(ren). The more lenient mother said it was not legal.
Well, that would explain today. That might change in the future.
> Sky, who's an empty-nester (woohoo!!!!)
Never had kids, never wanted kids, but nest is full of 5 cats. They are
all chipped.
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Wayne Boatwright
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
My understanding is that most cell phones already contain the GPS
technology, but it is turned off for general public use by private
citizens.
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Sky
>
> On Thu 02 Oct 2008 08:08:42p, Sky told us...
>
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>
> >> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child
> >> locator", but it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a
> >> device that the parent can zone in on.
> >>
> >> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of
> >> the child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >
> > It's not legal from what I understand. Just earlier this week while I
> > was TV-channel surfing, I watched "Dr. Phil" for a few moments and
> > more. It was an episode about mothering -- extreme
> > helipcopter-never-leave-my-side mothering vs.
> > cutting-apron-strings-when-age-appropriate mother. One comment made by
> > the helicopter mom (I think?) was she wanted to have 'chip' her
> > child(ren). The more lenient mother said it was not legal.
>
> Well, that would explain today. That might change in the future.
>
> > Sky, who's an empty-nester (woohoo!!!!)
>
> Never had kids, never wanted kids, but nest is full of 5 cats. They are
> all chipped.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
Yeah, and the really scary part is once that step is take with children,
it won't be too long before "EVERYONE" will be required to be chipped,
regardless of age -- talk about "Big Brother"!!!!
Sky, who isn't paranoid, oh no, not paranoid at all!!!
sf
<waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
>Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
Good idea! It would help in more instances than that. I could tell
you stories that would make your hair stand up and none of them are
child abduction cases or second party malice. Thankfully, all stories
turned out well.... but they took a toll on adults.
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Wayne Boatwright
> Yeah, and the really scary part is once that step is take with children,
> it won't be too long before "EVERYONE" will be required to be chipped,
> regardless of age -- talk about "Big Brother"!!!!
>
> Sky, who isn't paranoid, oh no, not paranoid at all!!!
>
We're almost there now.
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suddenly find it interesting at 3 am.
Kathleen
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator", but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
You first.
Because my dogs were not spayed/neutered as puppies they were conscious
when they got their chips and the procedure was obviously painful.
The implantation involves a hollow needle about as big around as the fat
part of a round toothpick. The chip itself is about the size of a grain
of rice. Some dog owners claim to be able to palpate the chip; I myself
have never been able to feel anybody's chip, even in "tick search" mode,
eyes closed, feeling with the pads of my fingers with the dog lying
relaxed on my lap. However, every time I bring them to the vet I have
the tech scan them to confirm that their chips have not migrated and are
functioning.
Aside from the fact that the implantation procedure is painful, invasive
and presents a risk, however small, of complications including infection
you've got the fact that the chips can't be detected from a distance.
The legal ramifications are cloudy. I do know that employers are not
allowed to demand that employees allow themselves to be chipped as a
condition of employment.
If somebody wants to stick a chip in the scruff of MY neck they'd better
bring lots of help.
Sky
"Chips" for pets are one thing - but "chips" (for GPS reasons) are
something else when it comes to humans -- talk about "Big Brother"! No
way would I want my locations tracked - and that's not because I have
anything to hide either!
However, when it comes to "chips" for pets - those "pet chips" are much
less an intrusion than the 'rods' implanted in women's upper arms for
contraception (Norplants???)! Those little rice-sized implants given to
pets have been proven to reunite lost pets with their beloved keepers.
Both my felines have "implanted chips" that the Humane Society provided
when I "rescued" them -- and each is stictly an indoor cat. BUT, in
case something happens (think a traumatic weather event!), then my
beloved felines have a much better chance of 'finding home'!
Sky, who's on a high-horse again (sigh)
George Shirley
tie one around your kids ankle. <G>
John Kane
Not to worry. Some hacker will have it broken about 5 minutes before
it is applied :).
I believe I saw reports of Japanese employees being traced by their
cell phones during working hours. The solution was a second, secret,
phone. Set the first to forward the call and you could be anywhere
and still answer the call.
John Kane Kingston On Canada
maxine in ri
wrote:
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator", but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
implanting RFID's with people's medical information, and it goes down
for similar reasons, as well as identity theft,
maxine in ri
Wayne Boatwright
If it were a nice world, it would be feasible. <sigh>
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I think that level of paranoia is unfounded... After all when has it
ever occurred that both the greedy clueless politicians and greedy
bankers/big businessmen worked against the little guy?
Default User
I doubt that. The power requirements for a broadcast system would rule
it out.
Brian
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Sheldon
> that I can buy a GPS type of device to put on a dog collar, much the same
> thing Wayne was talking about. �It's kind of creepy though when you think
> about it. �Being chipped and allowing someone else to track your
> whereabouts.
Leave it to Duh'Wayne to start a thread on how to locate chidren...
he's a known child molester who is mandated by law to wear an
electronic location ankle bracelet... why do you think that horror
lives in a remote desert location far away from people, he has no
other choice.
Dimitri
"Wayne Boatwright" <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator",
> but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
1. Big Brother Abuse.
2. Chipping a pet requires the per to be scanned at close range.
Dimitri
Wayne Boatwright
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>
>>Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held
>>>"child locator", but it requires that the child also be carrying
>>>or wearing a device that the parent can zone in on.
>>
>>>If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose
>>>of the child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do
>>>pets?
>>
>>a wand-like device at close range, but they don't allow for
>>remote sensing nor do they provide location information.
>>
>>It's a good idea however, and probably technically feasible.
>
>
> The technology is probably there for what Wayne is suggesting. I know
> that I can buy a GPS type of device to put on a dog collar, much the same
> thing Wayne was talking about. It's kind of creepy though when you think
> about it. Being chipped and allowing someone else to track your
> whereabouts.
And then there are the radio collars worn by JRTs during hunting, which
allows the handler to locate and dig down to a terrier that has followed
his/her prey to ground, gotten into a stand-off and has to be dug up and
retrieved.
dsi1
Not gonna work. The kids have been shown to be resistant to the new
GPS tracking technology - some have been known to gnaw their foot off
at the ankle. I suggest subcutaneous cell phone implants. Tracking of
the kids at that point would be easy:
DK
Really? Is that true?
-dk
Wayne Boatwright
Oh, absolutely! In fact, I have two such ankle bracelets in case I cut one
of my legs off. But Warthog has only part of the story right... I live in
a desert suburb with a population of nearly half a million people. I'm
especially lucky that there are dozens of kids in my neighborhood.
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DK
You are either:
(1) A fucked up individual
or
(2) A victim of libel
#1 Can land you in jail for a long time.
#2 Can get you some land in NY from your libel suit.
Wayne Boatwright
LOL! I'll take door #2.
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>Leave it to Duh'Wayne to start a thread on how to locate chidren...
>he's a known child molester who is mandated by law to wear an
>electronic location ankle bracelet... why do you think that horror
>lives in a remote
I will assume this post is from an idiot posting as Sheldon, because
this is not only a (repeated) false accusation - it's the figment of
someone's demented imagination.
Wayne Boatwright
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Leave it to Duh'Wayne to start a thread on how to locate chidren...
>>he's a known child molester who is mandated by law to wear an
>>electronic location ankle bracelet... why do you think that horror
>>lives in a remote
>
> I will assume this post is from an idiot posting as Sheldon, because
> this is not only a (repeated) false accusation - it's the figment of
> someone's demented imagination.
Thanks, Barbara. However, over history this has often been the way Sheldon
has addressed me. You may be right, or maybe not.
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Dave Bell
> Tracking of
> the kids at that point would be easy:
>
> http://www.themobiletracker.com/english/index.html
Nice!
Actually, a lot of phones have tracking capability.
Through Verizon, out Samsung phones can do it, with the Chaperone
software loaded. No GPS capability, but they can triangulate to within
100 feet, from my experience...
Dave Bell
> Some dog owners claim to be able to palpate the chip; I myself
> have never been able to feel anybody's chip, even in "tick search" mode,
> eyes closed, feeling with the pads of my fingers with the dog lying
> relaxed on my lap.
In a dog, it might be more difficult, but I can easily palpate one of
our cats' chips. It's in the hollow between his shoulder blades, and
obviously not "normal". The implant procedure is a little painful, of
course, but I've never seen a pet upset for more than a few seconds
afterwards.
blake murphy
> Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Leave it to Duh'Wayne to start a thread on how to locate chidren...
>> he's a known child molester who is mandated by law to wear an
>> electronic location ankle bracelet... why do you think that horror
>> lives in a remote desert location far away from people, he has no
>> other choice.
>>
>
> Really? Is that true?
>
> -dk
i thought it was sheldon who lived out in the country. with animals.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
it wouldn't take sheldon's lawyer more than five seconds to construct an
insanity defense.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Leave it to Duh'Wayne to start a thread on how to locate chidren...
>>he's a known child molester who is mandated by law to wear an
>>electronic location ankle bracelet... why do you think that horror
>>lives in a remote
>
> I will assume this post is from an idiot posting as Sheldon, because
> this is not only a (repeated) false accusation - it's the figment of
> someone's demented imagination.
sheldon is perfectly capable of being an idiot without anyone's help.
your pal,
blake
DK
Those poor animals...
-dk
DK
At least it would get him away from his computer.
-dk
James
> I've been seeing recent TV commercials about a hand held "child locator", but
> it requires that the child also be carrying or wearing a device that the
> parent can zone in on.
>
> If someone abducted the child, they could easily disable or dispose of the
> child's device. Why not just chip the kid the way they do pets?
>
> Wayne Boatwright
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They are available and popular in South America where rich are often
kidnapped. It includes a GPS system so police can find the body no
matter where. Very expensive. In the thousands to install and your
also have to pay thousands in annual fee.