I had my very second Mango 2 days ago, and today, my lips are a LITTLE
puffier than normal (but not too noticeable) and feel chapped. The
same irritation I had after the first time I had the mango.
Is it possible to be allergic to Mango? I'm not allergic to anything -
nuts, fruits, veggies, seafood, nothing.
So why mango? I guess I'll have to search the 'net for this one..
The day after eating the mango, my lips feel like I'm about to get a
coldsore (which I get). I'm now on the 2nd day after eating the mango
and no cold sore, but like i said above, my lips are irritated/chapped
feeling.
Strange!
Not strange at all.
Mango "is one of the big 8 allergens."
Talk you your doctor you might want to start carrying an Epi-Pen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epi-pen
http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/February04.htm
Dimitri
No it's not. Google "mango" and enter "enzymes" in the "search within
results" box. It has an enzyme like that in papaya that tenderizes meat. You
are meat.
No way! Really? I wonder if the enzyme is the culprit?
You're not allergic or you'd be in the hospital You are sensitive to some
of the enzymes present in mangos most likely a papain-like digestive enzyme.
Not going to harm you.
Paul
> You're not allergic or you'd be in the hospital You are sensitive to some
> of the enzymes present in mangos most likely a papain-like digestive
> enzyme.
It was my impression that food allergies usually have more dramatic effects
than that. I have heard of people whose throats completely close from the
inflammation, so that they cannot breathe. My father had very strange
allergies, because the foods in question *sometimes* affected him and
sometimes did not. It may have been something he sometimes ate in
conjunction with them, I don't know. His entire face swelled, his eyes
swelled shut and everything.
I am not aware of benign food allergies. If you have one, they can kill
you. There are a great many food sensitivities which cause other non-lethal
reactions.
Paul
This is simply not true, and could kill you if you take it literally. An allergy
can develop over time or with increased exposure to the allergen, or a
food sensitivity can be so severe as to threaten life. The thing that you
should do is see a doctor and describe it, probably take some allergy tests
and find out for sure. There is a lot of very good reading on allergy on
the internet, just Google "food allergy," and pay attention to the experts.
http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/topics/foodAllergy/understanding/whatIsIt.htm
This would be a good starting place. Meanwhile, avoid mangos.
pavane
Then I'm merely sensitive to ragweed pollen? Every doctor has said I'm
allergic. When exposed to it, I sneeze and itch, but it's an
antihistamine situation, not a hospital one. Same for certain sorts of
seafood. When I feel the sore throat on swallowing, I quick take a
Benedryl, not call an ambulance.
There are allergies that cause sneezing, itching, and hives. There are
allergies that cause anaphylactic shock. They're all allergies.
There's no reason why someone can't be allergic to mango and get a mild
reaction.
Usually it's the peel that's the problem. Many people who break out on
contact with the mango tree's sap or peel of the mango can eat it with
no trouble-- provided someone else has peeled it or they've used plastic
gloves when doing it themselves.
--Lia
Mango contains urushiol, which provokes a reaction
in many people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urushiol
Contrary to what other posters said, the cause
of your reaction is not an enzyme.
Since you neither know how to click or read, I'll copy and paste for you.
Dimitri
http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/February04.htm
B. More information:
Mango is not one of the "big eight" allergens (milk, peanut, wheat, seafood,
fish, soya, tree nuts, and egg), and therefore not as much is known about
it. But there are compelling reasons to study less common allergens to the
extent possible. One is that they may be "emerging" allergens, as mango is
(see immediately below). Incidence of an allergy may rise significantly in a
short time, leaving many clinicians unprepared. Furthermore, knowledge of
less common allergens is important not only in terms of the allergies
patients may have, but those they DON'T have. Self-diagnosis is probably
more common in allergy than in any other area of healthcare, and patients
are certainly not restricted mainly to the "big eight" in their incorrect
ideas about adverse reactions they are experiencing. For any reported
adverse reaction, a clinician needs both the means to assemble solid
evidence about the nature of the reaction, and also a theoretical framework
within which to reason. Without, for instance, a range of suspicions of
cross-reactions, based on, for example, botanical relationship or the
presence or the type of a panallergen, diagnosis and management will be
incomplete.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis
Unless the exposure is the "sensitizing dose" as described below.
Dimitri
Anaphylaxis is a severe, whole-body allergic reaction. After an initial
exposure ("sensitizing dose") to a substance like bee sting toxin, the
person's immune system becomes sensitized to that allergen. On a subsequent
exposure ("shocking dose"), an allergic reaction occurs. This reaction is
sudden, severe, and involves the whole body.
Hives and angioedema (hives on the lips, eyelids, throat, and/or tongue)
often occur. Angioedema may be severe enough to block the airway. Prolonged
anaphylaxis can cause heart arrhythmias.
Some drugs (polymyxin, morphine, x-ray dye, and others) may cause an
"anaphylactoid" reaction (anaphylactic-like reaction) on the first
exposure.[7] This is usually due to a toxic reaction, rather than the immune
system mechanism that occurs with "true" anaphylaxis. The symptoms, risk for
complications without treatment, and treatment are the same, however, for
both types of reactions. Some vaccinations are also known to cause
"anaphylactoid" reactions.[8]
Anaphylaxis can occur in response to any allergen. Common causes include
insect bites/stings, horse serum (used in some vaccines), food allergies
(peanuts and tree nuts are the most common, though not the only), and drug
allergies. Pollens and other inhaled allergens rarely cause anaphylaxis. In
opthamology, the dye fluorescein used in some eye exams is a well known
trigger. Some people have an anaphylactic reaction with no identifiable
cause.
Anaphylaxis occurs infrequently. However, it is life-threatening and can
occur at any time. Risks include prior history of any type of allergic
reaction.
Or, you could kiss my ass.
Ask your dermatologist. Don't ask for medical advice in this
newsgroup. It could be an allergy - in which case, each reaction is
likely to be worse than the one before, and eventually could kill
you. If it's just a sensitivity, you have to decide if it's worth it
to eat the thing or not. Ask your dermatologist.
N.
>Not going to harm you.
I would suggest you talk to your doctor...since Mr. Cook doesn't have
a DR. in front of his hame.
Use caution....since you can become allergic at any time in your life.
A medical professional can answer your questions.
IIRC, mango is related rather closely to poison ivy.
Bob
I always thought poison oak, but kind of the same thing.
kili
I thought it was related to poison oak! That's the perfect article.
kili
A visit to a good allergist, not your regular doctor would be
worthwhile. A single visit can get you well tested and identify
allergens. Immunotherapy treatments can work very well.
I'm sure he was confused and thought this was a group of allergists. I know
whenever I am sick I go to Internet cooking groups for medical advice. I
thought everyone knew about mango juice and how it can be irritating to soft
tissues.
Paul
>I'm sure he was confused and thought this was a group of allergists.
No need to apologize to me. I err on the side of caution...not
blindly run amuck with uneducated advise.
Well if there is no need, I won't.
Paul
>
Not so. I am allergic to Mango and have never ended up in the
hospital. Not all allergic reactions (especially at first) require
hospitalisation.
JB
Paul
I had my first reaction to Mango when I was about 25. It took me a
couple of years and a few reactions before I pinned it down to Mango.
My whole face blows up and I get small blister like things under the
skin, it requires depomedrol injestions for a couple of days to get
rid of the swelling. Your allergic reaction will only get worse. Mine
started with just eating them, then a couple of years ago I picked one
from a tree and got some of the sap from the stalk on my hand... ended
up with the same allergic reaction as if I had eaten it.
JB
An alternate allergic reaction to food is hives or swelling
of the lips or face. Allergic reaction increases with each
subsequent exposure.
gloria p
It's quite possible, and there really is no rhyme or reason to allergies.
The only way to know for sure is to be tested, but if you're having any kind
of inflamation after eating it, the odds are good that you are.
kimberly
--
http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com
http://www.revver.com/video/1129189/patriot-act-2/
My wife is quite sensitive to the skin and sap of the mango and will
have those symptoms you describe. She cannot handle the fruit with her
bare hands. My guess is that it's similar to poison ivy, although I've
never seen that myself.
Just have your spouse peel that sucker for you. Peel the mango by going
around with a knife starting from the top - try to peel it using one
cut. It would probably be best to rinse the peeled fruit before slicing
it. Wifey has no problems with the flesh.
The sap and skin have no effect on me - that's one of my many super
powers, I guess. :-)
The easiest way to get the flesh of most modern stringless varieties
is to cut off the two "cheeks" as close to the seed as you can judge,
then spoon the flesh out with a large spoon (dessert or table). If
you feel like getting a bit messy you can then cut though the
remaining ribbon of skin, peel it off, and can suck on the seed. :-)
>The sap and skin have no effect on me - that's one of my many super
>powers, I guess. :-)
Back in The Good Old Days in another place, when all the mangoes I ate
were picked ripe from the tree, I had no mango sap burns. But now,
with far less choice of backyard trees, I have to fight the flying fox
[fruit bats] for a feed -- so I have to pick the fruit at maturity but
not really "soft ripe".
When you pick them like that the damn things often send out a squirt
of their corrosive sap which can cause a skin burn if you don't notice
it and wash it off pretty quickly.
Cheers, Phred.
--
ppnerk...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
Missed that part did we??
Yes, it's possible to develop allergies to odd things much later in life.
Ms P
Allergic reactions can range from mild to severe. Just because you don't
end up in a hospital doesn't mean you aren't allergic to something.
Ms P
Yeah, I've been meaning to do this for awhile anyway.
Interesting. Well, I did touch the skin as I held the fruit, but my
mouth only touched the insides as I scooped them out. Nothing happened
to my fingers/hands. So it's the insides that bother me.
I won't be eating it again, that's for sure. As delicious as it is
*sigh*.
There's an easier way.
1. Go buy a big ripe mango.
2. Take the mango a knife and some paper towels in the car.
3. Drive the car to your nearest emergency room parking lot.
4. Peal and eat the mango.
5. Wait 20 minutes.
6. If you can still breathe you're not allergic.
7. Or if your throat starts to close go into the ER and pray they're not
too busy.
:-)
Dimitri
LOL! Positively evil!
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That's the problem people sometimes don't pay attention to their body. After
the sensitizing dose all hell can break lose.
Dimitri
Well it's simple empirical testing.
Dimitri
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <waynebo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B0757EA2455Awa...@69.16.185.247...
>> On Wed 27 Aug 2008 08:33:35a, Dimitri told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Paul McNoob" <mea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9a49708c-0d4d-4e2d-bc6f-94d6932fe2e5@
Well, yes, but they generally use lab rats. :-)
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<snip>
>>>
>>> LOL! Positively evil!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>>
>> Well it's simple empirical testing.
>>
>> Dimitri
>>
>>
>
> Well, yes, but they generally use lab rats. :-)
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
And your point is?
(is there a difference with the posters)
I thought this (RFC) was part of the "Infinite Number of Monkeys "Theory of
probability"
;-)
Dimitri
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <waynebo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B0759CA68F1wa...@69.16.185.247...
>
> <snip>
>
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Positively evil!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>
>>>
>>> Well it's simple empirical testing.
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, yes, but they generally use lab rats. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> And your point is?
>
> (is there a difference with the posters)
Reconsidering, no... :-)
> I thought this (RFC) was part of the "Infinite Number of Monkeys "Theory
> of probability"
You make a valid point. :-)
> ;-)
>
> Dimitri
>
>
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> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:IzYsk.19000$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:g91b55$oor$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Mango "is one of the big 8 allergens."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No way! Really? I wonder if the enzyme is the culprit?
>>
>>
>> Since you neither know how to click or read, I'll copy and paste for you.
>>
>> Dimitri
>>
>> http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/February04.htm
>>
>
> Or, you could kiss my ass.
is it hypoallergenic?
your pal,
blake
where's the fun in that? *educated* advice never allows me to run amok.
your pal,
blake
Well, it might bother you, but in a good way. :)
>> An alternate allergic reaction to food is hives or swelling
>> of the lips or face. Allergic reaction increases with each
>> subsequent exposure.
>>
>> gloria p
>
> That's the problem people sometimes don't pay attention to their body.
> After the sensitizing dose all hell can break lose.
>
> Dimitri
My problem is bivalves. I can have a scallop or an oyster or two, but
if I repeat that in a day or two, I will have hives, swelling and my
lips get huge. I try to behave. Sometimes.
Becca
The rational for completely removing the skin is to get rid of the
irritating parts. Eating the flesh out of the peel is probably
inadvisable for people with a sensitivity to the sap. My wife will get
a rash wherever the peel touches her.
We're pretty familiar with mango and the irritating effects of the
skin because we live in the tropics. Eating a mango with a spoon is a
novel idea for me but the reality is that there's many ways to skin a
cat.
>
> >The sap and skin have no effect on me - that's one of my many super
> >powers, I guess. :-)
>
> Back in The Good Old Days in another place, when all the mangoes I ate
> were picked ripe from the tree, I had no mango sap burns. But now,
> with far less choice of backyard trees, I have to fight the flying fox
> [fruit bats] for a feed -- so I have to pick the fruit at maturity but
> not really "soft ripe".
>
> When you pick them like that the damn things often send out a squirt
> of their corrosive sap which can cause a skin burn if you don't notice
> it and wash it off pretty quickly.
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>
> --
> ppnerkDEL...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
Is that supposed to be funny?
:D
I hate that expression. lol
A very dear colleague has a total Fish allergy to any kind of fish she lived
in Japan for 5 years.
I believe that is an impossibility.
Dimitri
I once heard of someone who tried but your nose was in the way.
Dimitri
No, that was Greg Morrow's nose.
Why in hell would you assume that anyone would automatically click on a link
you post? Next time just say what you want to say in the first place instead
of acting like an asshole.
Really. I mean, I would point out that people actually do skin and eat cats,
but then that snarky shark would accuse me of having no sense of humor.
That's right! I forgot that this NG is very sensitive about cats and
dogs. Mostly, it's a old worn out cliché but please strike that one from
the record.
Thank God I didn't post my standard Korean and Filipino dog food post. I
don't wanna offend you guys - I've seen what goes down when that
happens... :-)
>
>
>
> :D
>
>
And you would be the expert on acting like an asshole, naturally.
--
Saerah
"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL
I have no problem with people eating whatever food is available in an
area, even if folks in another area commonly have that animal as a pet.
Of course if anyone tries to eat *my* short furry wife, they will have a
life expectancy measured in milliseconds...
> I have no problem with people eating whatever food is available in an
> area, even if folks in another area commonly have that animal as a pet.
> Of course if anyone tries to eat *my* short furry wife, they will have a
> life expectancy measured in milliseconds...
Interesting that you should describe your wife as short and furry, so's
mine! She's only 6'2". :-)
I agree completely with you that folks can eat their pets if that want
to but it would be nice if they only did this in their own country. We
had a couple of dudes here that stole a guy's doggie from a golf course
and killed it for food. That was sad.
Harry the Bigfoot
> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:Ymmtk.22946$N87....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >
> >>> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:IzYsk.19000$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:g91b55$oor$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mango "is one of the big 8 allergens."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No way! Really? I wonder if the enzyme is the culprit?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Since you neither know how to click or read, I'll copy and paste for
> >>>> you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dimitri
> >>>>
> >>>> http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/February04.htm
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Or, you could kiss my ass.
> >
> > I once heard of someone who tried but your nose was in the way.
> >
>
> No, that was Greg Morrow's nose.
Don't get TOO close to me, cyberpussie...AAARGH...!!!
<chuckle>
> Why in hell would you assume that anyone would automatically click on a
link
> you post?
Uh, because Dmitri is a long - time and trusted poster...???
Next time just say what you want to say in the first place instead
> of acting like an asshole.
You prefer to stay ignernt and uninformed in any case so clicking on a link
or having someone spell something out to you in "remedial English" will not
help you one whit...
--
Best
Greg
" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking
The point of my comment was *not* to suggest your wife eat it from the
skin herself, but to suggest a quick and easy way for you to remove
the flesh for her to eat from a bowl or whatever.
>We're pretty familiar with mango and the irritating effects of the
>skin because we live in the tropics. Eating a mango with a spoon is a
>novel idea for me but the reality is that there's many ways to skin a cat.
Yeah. I've been eating mangoes for well over 50 years, but I'd never
thought of using a spoon until a colleague demonstrated it at lunch
time about three years ago. (Of course, as I said, it only works well
with the "stringless" varieties; it's not so good with the "common"
feral type as we know it here. :-)
>> >The sap and skin have no effect on me - that's one of my many super
>> >powers, I guess. :-)
>>
>> Back in The Good Old Days in another place, when all the mangoes I ate
>> were picked ripe from the tree, I had no mango sap burns. But now,
>> with far less choice of backyard trees, I have to fight the flying fox
>> [fruit bats] for a feed -- so I have to pick the fruit at maturity but
>> not really "soft ripe".
>>
>> When you pick them like that the damn things often send out a squirt
>> of their corrosive sap which can cause a skin burn if you don't notice
>> it and wash it off pretty quickly.
Cheers, Phred.
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> cybercat wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote
>>> We're pretty familiar with mango and the irritating effects of the
>>> skin because we live in the tropics. Eating a mango with a spoon is
>>> a novel idea for me but the reality is that there's many ways to
>>> skin a cat.
>>> ^^^^^^^
>> ^^^^
>>
>> Is that supposed to be funny?
>>
>
> That's right! I forgot that this NG is very sensitive about cats and
> dogs. Mostly, it's a old worn out cliché but please strike that one
> from the record.
The way I heard it was: "There is more than one way to kill a cat - you
can choke it with cream."
>
> Thank God I didn't post my standard Korean and Filipino dog food post.
> I don't wanna offend you guys - I've seen what goes down when that
> happens... :-)
>
Oh, go on, tell it, tell it! Ya know ya want to ;-)
Getting back to the OP. I have no adverse reactions to mangoes. Thank
goodness. But I do prefer to eat them over the sink ;-)
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...
If you really must be so messy, I recommend the bank of a clear
rainforest stream for a subsequent full body cleansing. ;-)
Cheers, Phred.
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ppnerk...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
Ahem. Don't you think it's time you two 'got a room'?
<snort>
your pal,
blake
> Oh, go on, tell it, tell it! Ya know ya want to ;-)
>
> Getting back to the OP. I have no adverse reactions to mangoes. Thank
> goodness.
>But I do prefer to eat them over the sink ;-)
Me too, since it's a bit of a messy undertaking. I suppose I could eat
mangoes in the bathtub but that might be taking it too far. :-)
It's important to not draw attention to the fact that there's mango
eating going on since those pesky family members tend to want to partake
of the fruit that took a lot of sweat to prepare. Good thing my kitchen
tends to be on the dark and gloomy side. :-)
> cybercat wrote:
>
>>
>> "blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote
>>>> Or, you could kiss my ass.
>>>
>>> is it hypoallergenic?
>>>
>>
>> Well, it might bother you, but in a good way. :)
>
> Ahem. Don't you think it's time you two 'got a room'?
the public displays are a form of foreplay.
your pal,
blake
Ah. I see. Whatever floats your boat (of course).
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy
There is no such thing as a little garlic. ~A. Baer
Who was it who said that the sexiest thing on a man is what's between his
ears?