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tomb...@city-net.com

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:01:25 PM10/17/08
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My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
your parents?

Tom

PS: In "Candyfreak" the author mentions that in the 1920's Clark bars
promoted their product by having an airplane fly over Pittsburgh, and
drop Clark bars to all the kids. Can anyone say Berlin Airlift?

Andy

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:15:49 PM10/17/08
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The best of all time fearful favorite was if you swallowed a watermelon seed,
it would grow a watermelon in your tummy. We got very good at seed spitting.

Andy

Tara

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:18:27 PM10/17/08
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:01:25 -0700 (PDT), "tomb...@city-net.com"
<tomb...@city-net.com> wrote:

>Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
>your parents?

If you eat an orange seed, an orange tree will grow out of your belly
button.

If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
years.

Tara

Mark Thorson

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:22:59 PM10/17/08
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"tomb...@city-net.com" wrote:
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> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?

I was told that sardines were "brain food". I was
given a lot of sardines when I was a kid.

Sardines are no more brain food than any other type
of meat. My parents were just being cheap. And
we travelled a lot in an old VW bus, so some kind
of canned meat was an important source of nutrition.

Miche

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:55:45 PM10/17/08
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<579a6553-e942-4d7d...@t65g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"tomb...@city-net.com" <tomb...@city-net.com> wrote:

> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?

It's not hard for something to be better than Hershey bars. ;)

I was told that certain foods (I can't remember which; it changed) would
either make my hair curl or put hair on my chest.

I didn't want either.

Miche

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Andy

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:56:49 PM10/17/08
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Mark Thorson said...


Yep! Sardines or kipper snaks on saltines or crispbread!!!

Andy

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Oct 17, 2008, 8:18:33 PM10/17/08
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Mark Thorson wrote:

> "tomb...@city-net.com" wrote:
> >
> > My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> > father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> > Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid
> > how could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if
> > not better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable"
> > provided by your parents?
>
> I was told that sardines were "brain food". I was
> given a lot of sardines when I was a kid.
>
> Sardines are no more brain food than any other type
> of meat. My parents were just being cheap.

"Fish is good brain food" is old. Three Stooges: "Then you should fish
for a whale!"


Brian

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On Oct 17, 7:01�pm, "tomba...@city-net.com" <tomba...@city-net.com>
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I was told if I didn't eat the crust on bread I wouldn't learn how to
whistle. My parents would say, "You see birds eat crust, and they
know how to whistle." Incidentally, I eventually started eating the
crust but I never have been able to whistle.

cybercat

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Oct 17, 2008, 11:54:51 PM10/17/08
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"Jeßus" <no...@all.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:01:25 -0700, tomb...@city-net.com wrote:
>
>> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my father
>> said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the Pittsburgh PA
>> area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how could I argue
>> with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not better than Hersey
>> bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by your parents?
>
> Apparently I developed a dislike for scrambled eggs when I was very young.
> Mum's solution was to call scrambled eggs "fish" - which made all the
> difference it seems, as I would then eat said eggs.
>

Your mother was a troll.


HiTech RedNeck

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<tomb...@city-net.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?

My dad always spoke of horseradish as cleaning out sinuses. It didn't
really but it felt like it.


jmcquown

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Oct 18, 2008, 7:58:08 AM10/18/08
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tomb...@city-net.com wrote:
> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?
>
> Tom
>
There's always the baked potato story. But in Dad's case it was true. He
actually did carry a hot baked potato to school in his mittened hands and
then ate it cold for lunch. We're talking the GREAT American Depression.
1930's. He did not, however, walk uphill both ways to school in 3 feet of
snow ;)

Jill

Kathleen

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Oct 18, 2008, 8:20:24 AM10/18/08
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My grandmother told me that eating the crust on bread would make my hair
curlier. Which was actually kind of counterproductive, since what I
pined for was straight, flat, long hair. My older cousin actually
ironed her hair (on an ironing board!).

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:02:49 AM10/18/08
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jmcquown said...

> He did not, however, walk uphill both ways to school in 3 feet of
> snow ;)


Oh, so he never went to school, huh? <VBG>

Andy

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:09:08 AM10/18/08
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Kathleen said...

> My grandmother told me that eating the crust on bread would make my hair
> curlier. Which was actually kind of counterproductive, since what I
> pined for was straight, flat, long hair. My older cousin actually
> ironed her hair (on an ironing board!).


Somehow that reminds me of one of Mrs. Murphy's laws stating that bread would
always fall buttered side down.

Andy

Kathleen

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:20:02 AM10/18/08
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Andy wrote:

Yes. And cats always land on their feet. So theoretically, if you
strapped a piece of toast, butter-side up, to a cat's back you could
create a perpetual motion machine.

jmcquown

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:25:37 AM10/18/08
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Naw, he skipped school ate just ate the potato ;)

Sheldon

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:47:44 AM10/18/08
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And I heard it that a baby would grow in your belly... In fact now
that you reminded me I remember as a kid hearing grownups making
comments to pregnant lady friends like "Oh, so I see you swallowed a
watermelon seed". When I was five years old that was the extent of
sex ed... and for a while I imagined gigantic pterodactyl like storks
delivering watermelons. After a few years passed I learned that
swallowing seeds was how not to get pregnant.

Sheldon

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:53:06 AM10/18/08
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"Default Luser" wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote:

> > "tomba...@city-net.com" wrote:
>
> > > My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> > > father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> > > Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid
> > > how could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if
> > > not better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable"
> > > provided by your parents?
>
> > I was told that sardines were "brain food". �I was
> > given a lot of sardines when I was a kid.
>
> > Sardines are no more brain food than any other type
> > of meat. �My parents were just being cheap.
>
> "Fish is good brain food" is old.
> Three Stooges: "Then you should fish
> for a whale!"


You friggin' Default Luser imbecile you're the stooge, whales are
mammals, not fish. And fish are indeed brain food, especially oily
fish like sardines.

Sheldon

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:00:09 AM10/18/08
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On Oct 18, 12:46�am, "HiTech RedNeck" <hitechCOLOR-OF-
BLOODn...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote in message

Actually horseradish does clean out sinuses, by very effectively
shrinking the sinus membranes (just not very pleasant), hot mustard
the same (Musterole), so does Vicks vapor.

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:52:29 AM10/18/08
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Kathleen said...


Awww... wouldn't that be cute?!? I'll get on it right away! <G>

Andy

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:54:47 AM10/18/08
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Sheldon said...


Heh heh heh heh heh!

sf

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:01:45 -0700 (PDT), "djs...@aol.com"
<djs...@aol.com> wrote:

>I was told if I didn't eat the crust on bread I wouldn't learn how to
>whistle. My parents would say, "You see birds eat crust, and they
>know how to whistle." Incidentally, I eventually started eating the
>crust but I never have been able to whistle.

I was told if I ate my crust, I'd grow hair on my chest. ;)


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:58:45 AM10/18/08
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>Andy wrote:
>> The best of all time fearful favorite was if you swallowed a watermelon seed,
>> it would grow a watermelon in your tummy. We got very good at seed spitting.
>>
>> Andy

My grandfather told us a vine would grow out our ears. We loved to
spit the seeds too. Did you ever get to sit outside and spit for
distance?

Sheldon

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Oct 18, 2008, 11:04:59 AM10/18/08
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"jmcquown" wrote:

> tomba wrote:
> > My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> > father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> > Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> > could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> > better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> > your parents?
>
>
> There's always the baked potato story. �But in Dad's case it was true. �He
> actually did carry a hot baked potato to school in his mittened hands and
> then ate it cold for lunch. �We're talking the GREAT American Depression.
> 1930's. �He did not, however, walk uphill both ways to school in 3 feet of
> snow ;)

In NYC ('40s-'50s) we bought steaming hot potatoes during winter from
the sweet potato man's cart (a push cart with a wood fired oven),
humongus sweet potatoes a penny a piece... very effective pocket
warmers... lots of street venders sold hot food that made great pocket
warmers; roasted chestnuts, roasted peanuts, penny k'nishes were a
favorite... back then hot just out of the oven bagels were a penny....
in the mid '50s a slice of pizza from a large pie was a dime (entire
18" pie was 75 cents),too much for kids but Sicilian slices (huge
thick doughy squares, not much topping) were a nickel. A gigantic
serving of fresh made thick cut fries in a brown paper bag cost a
nickle at the deli. Everywhere sold large servings of thick hot home
made soups in paper containers with a wooden spoon for pennies. As
kids we rarely had enough pennies so we'd pool what we had and shared,
servings were larger than two kids could finish anyway... there was
always some little kid hanging around who had no pennies drooling for
our left overs. We'd get pennies collecting deposit bottles and
collecting old newpapers, a penny a hundred pounds at the junkie (in
those days a junkie was really the guy who owned the junkyard, and
there really were junkyard dogs). Girls hardly ever had pennies, but
if we shared with them they'd let us guys feel them up... of course
seven year olds don't have much to feel, didn't much matter, seven
year old boys didn't know where to feel... a lot of forty year old
guys still don't know. LOL

Andy

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sf said...

>
>>Andy wrote:
>>> The best of all time fearful favorite was if you swallowed a
>>> watermelon seed, it would grow a watermelon in your tummy. We got very
>>> good at seed spitting.
>>>
>>> Andy
>
> My grandfather told us a vine would grow out our ears. We loved to
> spit the seeds too. Did you ever get to sit outside and spit for
> distance?


sf,

Yes, at the farm in summer we did. I was never really good at it. The
"OLD" kids won all the time. Even rind tossing they won every time!

That reminds me, on occasion Pop used to look in my ears and exclaim "I see
an ear of corn growing in there." and hand me a q-tip! I became very good
at cleaning my ears, out of fright! :)

Best,

Andy


George Shirley

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Oct 18, 2008, 12:00:21 PM10/18/08
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My Dad's version of this was carrying a cold collard green sandwich in a
lard bucket, ten miles to school, barefoot, in the snow, uphill both
ways. Dad was brought up in Central Louisiana which, seldom, if ever,
gets snow but is rather hilly.

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 12:04:01 PM10/18/08
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Andy said...


Hmmm... a little dizzying for the cat! I don't recommend you try this at
home, kids! It WAS fun watching the little lion spin for a bit, I'll admit.

LOLOL!!!

Andy

Sheldon

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Oct 18, 2008, 12:06:44 PM10/18/08
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On Oct 18, 12:00�pm, George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:

When he talked hills he really meant it... I don't think they had
paved roads in Louisiana

Victor Sack

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Oct 18, 2008, 12:43:28 PM10/18/08
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Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:

> Sardines are no more brain food than any other type
> of meat.

They are. It is a scientific fact, mentioned in many of P.G.
Wodehouse's learned treatises. It is by now common knowledge that
Jeeves subsisted mostly on fish, with specifically sardines mentioned
approvingly several times and only once obliquely disapprovingly (but in
a social, as distinct from brain-improving, context). Jeeves himself
indirectly confirmed his fish sardine addiction several times, with only
once asserting that he is not fond of them (having eaten a wagonload of
them just prior, no doubt).

Victor

jmcquown

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Oct 18, 2008, 12:50:20 PM10/18/08
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LOLOL Okay, Sheldon, enough with the south -bashing. My father was born
and raised in Pennsylvania. He wouldn't eat greens because his mother made
him pick dandylion greens during the depression. You didn't have to live in
the south to be poor, ya know?

My cousin in Pennsylvania asked me if we had paved roads in Memphis. He
lived in a tiny town on the side of a mountain and the largest road had two
lanes Do we have paved roads? Stop watching 'The Beverly Hillbillies'. We
even have indoor toilets. I have two of them :)

Jill

Goomba

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Oct 18, 2008, 1:14:41 PM10/18/08
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jmcquown wrote:

> LOLOL Okay, Sheldon, enough with the south -bashing. My father was
> born and raised in Pennsylvania. He wouldn't eat greens because his
> mother made him pick dandylion greens during the depression. You didn't
> have to live in the south to be poor, ya know?
>
> My cousin in Pennsylvania asked me if we had paved roads in Memphis. He
> lived in a tiny town on the side of a mountain and the largest road had
> two lanes Do we have paved roads? Stop watching 'The Beverly
> Hillbillies'. We even have indoor toilets. I have two of them :)
>
> Jill

Well, I've seen areas that are *still* backwoods and devoid of paved
roads....
In fact, having just returned from Louisiana, I can say I've seen areas
that make me think "Deliverance" all over the place! Can you squeal like
a pig.....??? <cringe>
Hard for you and I to imagine, except that I've seen it. The census
tells that indoor plumbing is NOT universal in the US. I don't know
anyone without it .....but it exists!

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 1:22:53 PM10/18/08
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To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!

Then there was Pop [RIP], Army BUM!!! and my hero who declared on many
occasions, "take all you want but eat all you take."

Mom and Pop were COOL! Still are in my memories.

Andy

George Shirley

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Oct 18, 2008, 1:34:27 PM10/18/08
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Actually he's right. My Dad was born in 1911, no paved roads in
Louisiana anywhere at the time. He had to quit school at age 12,
half-way through the seventh grade. His father had a massive heart
attack and was told he could no longer work as a logger and farmer, the
only trades he knew. Dad went to work for the Louisiana department of
transportation, driving a 10-span (20 animals)mule team dragging a stone
sled. The stone sled was a heavy duty sled, no wheels, hauling gravel to
fill in the ruts and holes in the parish roads. Four large laborers rode
on the sled too, they shoveled the gravel onto the road. Dad controlled
the mules with a bull whip and often told me he could take a horse fly
off a mules butt without hitting the mule. That would be about 1923,
well before the depression.

The family still lived pretty well due to living on my
great-grandfather's homestead, taken up in 1872. In 1925 they moved to
Beaumont, Texas because the federal government had eminent domained the
homestead to make the Kisatchie National Forest. Greatgrandfather and
mother could have stayed until their death but GGF was totally PO'ed at
the gubmint. He was a Confederate veteran of the War of Northern
Aggression and wouldn't stay on land that wasn't his anymore. The family
did thrive in Texas and, to make a long story shorter, I was born there
in 1939. Dad worked from 1928 to 1967 at an oil refinery in Beaumont and
helped to support an extended family all through the Depression era. He
was a good man, an excellent father, and I still miss him.

George Shirley

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Oct 18, 2008, 1:37:02 PM10/18/08
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And most of the folks who live that way do so because they prefer it.
I've still got distant cousins in Central Louisiana who wouldn't move if
an atomic bomb landed nearby. It's home, it's the way they like it, and
danged if they're going to go elsewhere. Poor but proud as my
Grandmother used to say. Actually you would probably be better off among
them than you would be in a large city, most are good people.

Dimitri

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<tomb...@city-net.com> wrote in message
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> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?
>
> Tom
>
> PS: In "Candyfreak" the author mentions that in the 1920's Clark bars
> promoted their product by having an airplane fly over Pittsburgh, and
> drop Clark bars to all the kids. Can anyone say Berlin Airlift?

Potatoes growing in ears
Watermelons in Stomachs
Coke dissolving teeth.
Smoking will stunt your growth.
There is a monster hiding in your closet
The boogie Man will get you.
If you keep on doing it you'll go blind (can I do it just until I need
Glasses?)
If you keep making a funny face your Face will freeze that way.
Wait until your father gets home he'll beat you within an inch of your life
(I never did understand what within an Inch of my life was like but I never
wanted to find out.

The Biggest Lie from Parents

THE IS GOING TO HURT ME MORE THAT IT'S GOING TO HURT YOU!

My answer - Bull Shit!

and of course that got me the true understanding of "within an inch of my
life"

:-)

Dimitri

Giusi

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Oct 18, 2008, 1:46:27 PM10/18/08
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"George Shirley"

He > was a good man, an excellent father, and I still miss him.

The monument you built him with words is finer than anything made of stone.


Ozark Baby

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Oct 18, 2008, 2:13:03 PM10/18/08
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:18:27 -0400, Tara <jarv...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:01:25 -0700 (PDT), "tomb...@city-net.com"
><tomb...@city-net.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
>>your parents?
>

>If you eat an orange seed, an orange tree will grow out of your belly
>button.
>
>If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
>years.
>
>Tara

My mother told me that if I swallowed any bubble gum that one day when
I belched a big bubble would form out of my mouth and I would fly
away.

sf

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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:22:53 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
>scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!
>

What about all those starving kids in China?

sf

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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:13:03 GMT, Ozark Baby <ozar...@xxxx.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:18:27 -0400, Tara <jarv...@ix.netcom.com>
>wrote:
>

>>If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
>>years.
>>
>>Tara
>
>My mother told me that if I swallowed any bubble gum that one day when
>I belched a big bubble would form out of my mouth and I would fly
>away.

Grandpa told me gum would stick to my ribs.

Andy

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sf said...

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:22:53 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
>>scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!
>>
> What about all those starving kids in China?


Let 'em drink all the tea?

Andy <-- Shame on me.

Ed Pawlowski

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"sf" <sf@g_mail.com> wrote in message

>
> My grandfather told us a vine would grow out our ears. We loved to
> spit the seeds too. Did you ever get to sit outside and spit for
> distance?

Yes, but I prefer cherry pits off the deck.


Ed Pawlowski

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"George Shirley" <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>> Jill
> My Dad's version of this was carrying a cold collard green sandwich in a
> lard bucket, ten miles to school, barefoot, in the snow, uphill both ways.
> Dad was brought up in Central Louisiana which, seldom, if ever, gets snow
> but is rather hilly.

He had school? I had to find a smart person and follow him around.


Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:24:44 PM10/18/08
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And what's about chewing 27 times???

One... two... gone!

<VBG>

No "My Fair Lady" 'cept across the street!

Andy

Dimitri

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:23:00 PM10/18/08
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"sf" <sf@g_mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:22:53 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
>>scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!
>>
> What about all those starving kids in China?


They all moved to Bangladesh.

Dimitri

Blinky the Shark

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:28:37 PM10/18/08
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sf wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:13:03 GMT, Ozark Baby <ozar...@xxxx.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:18:27 -0400, Tara <jarv...@ix.netcom.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
>>>years.
>>>
>>>Tara
>>
>>My mother told me that if I swallowed any bubble gum that one day when
>>I belched a big bubble would form out of my mouth and I would fly
>>away.
>
> Grandpa told me gum would stick to my ribs.

I was told that gum would collect in my appendix until I had to have
surgery.


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sf

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:33:45 PM10/18/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:24:44 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>And what's about chewing 27 times???

27 is for sissies. Try 32. ;)

The Cook

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:49:25 PM10/18/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:28:37 -0700, Blinky the Shark
<no....@box.invalid> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:13:03 GMT, Ozark Baby <ozar...@xxxx.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:18:27 -0400, Tara <jarv...@ix.netcom.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
>>>>years.
>>>>
>>>>Tara
>>>
>>>My mother told me that if I swallowed any bubble gum that one day when
>>>I belched a big bubble would form out of my mouth and I would fly
>>>away.
>>
>> Grandpa told me gum would stick to my ribs.
>
>I was told that gum would collect in my appendix until I had to have
>surgery.

I was told that I would get appendicitis if I ate grape seeds.

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:53:09 PM10/18/08
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sf said...

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:24:44 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>And what's about chewing 27 times???
>
> 27 is for sissies. Try 32. ;)


sf,

Well... you obviously live across the street only about 2,800+ MILES AWAY!

How long does dinner take over at your place?!?

<smootch>

Andy

sf

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:56:20 PM10/18/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:28:37 -0700, Blinky the Shark
<no....@box.invalid> wrote:

>I was told that gum would collect in my appendix until I had to have
>surgery.

HA! So that's what the appendix is for?

sf

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:03:02 PM10/18/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:50:20 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>He wouldn't eat greens because his mother made
>him pick dandylion greens during the depression.

I read right here in rfc that dandelion greens are very good if you
pick them in the spring - before they've matured.

sf

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:09:58 PM10/18/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:53:09 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>How long does dinner take over at your place?!?
>

:) It all depends on the company, Andy! Some meals go on for hours.
My dining room is intended for long, leisurely meals.

Andy

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:18:12 PM10/18/08
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sf said...

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:53:09 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>How long does dinner take over at your place?!?
>>
>:) It all depends on the company, Andy! Some meals go on for hours.
> My dining room is intended for long, leisurely meals.


Calling all yachts!!!

Felice

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:33:25 PM10/18/08
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"sf" <sf@g_mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:22:53 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
>>scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!
>>
> What about all those starving kids in China?

And in MY day, the starving Armenians.

Felice


Gregory Morrow

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Oct 18, 2008, 5:16:00 PM10/18/08
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George Shirley wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:


> >> On Oct 18, 12:00?pm, George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> tomba...@city-net.com wrote:
> >>>>> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> >>>>> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> >>>>> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid
> >>>>> how could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if
> >>>>> not better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable"
> >>>>> provided by your parents?
> >>>
> >>>>> Tom
> >>>

> >>>> There's always the baked potato story. ?But in Dad's case it was
> >>>> true. ? He actually did carry a hot baked potato to school in his
> >>>> mittened hands and then ate it cold for lunch. ?We're talking the
> >>>> GREAT American Depression. 1930's. ?He did not, however, walk

IIRC wasn't Guv'nor Huey Long largely responsible for putting in paved roads
and bridges in the 30's...

In my home county in west central Illannoy the first paved roads appeared in
1923, it spanned the county east to west adjacent to the railroad spur which
was the primary transportation artery. The train, called "The Dolly",
lasted until 1952...

My dad (born during WWII) tells story of when he was a kid driving horse
wagons a pretty long ways, it was the only way to go until motorised trucks
came into those isolated areas...

Man, just basic transport was a major undertaking not so long ago. Always
amazes me that all the large old skyscrapers and other buildings that stil
exist here in Chicago and in other cities had all their building supplies
hauled to the site on *horse* wagons...


> The family still lived pretty well due to living on my
> great-grandfather's homestead, taken up in 1872. In 1925 they moved to
> Beaumont, Texas because the federal government had eminent domained the
> homestead to make the Kisatchie National Forest. Greatgrandfather and
> mother could have stayed until their death but GGF was totally PO'ed at
> the gubmint. He was a Confederate veteran of the War of Northern
> Aggression and wouldn't stay on land that wasn't his anymore. The family
> did thrive in Texas and, to make a long story shorter, I was born there
> in 1939. Dad worked from 1928 to 1967 at an oil refinery in Beaumont and
> helped to support an extended family all through the Depression era. He
> was a good man, an excellent father, and I still miss him.


:-)


--
Best
Greg


Gregory Morrow

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Oct 18, 2008, 5:32:01 PM10/18/08
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Goomba wrote:


Indoor plumbing is a given now but it was not always thus:

In 1940 out of 35 million dwelling units:

- 31 % had no indoor running water

- 32% had no indoor toilet

- 39% lacked a shower or bathtub

- 58% had no central heating

[Electricity in rural areas was still something new, and many (like my
parents) were still waiting for the REA to wire their county...]

[The above quoted statistics are from _No Ordinary Time_...]


--
Best
Greg


Gregory Morrow

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Oct 18, 2008, 5:40:39 PM10/18/08
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sf wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:50:20 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >He wouldn't eat greens because his mother made
> >him pick dandylion greens during the depression.
>
> I read right here in rfc that dandelion greens are very good if you
> pick them in the spring - before they've matured.


If ya hate ya hate 'em...especially if they trigger memories of hard times.

Kinda like the Joan Crawford "NO MORE WIRE HANGERS - EVER...!!!" thang, she
could not stand the sight of them because as an impovershed kid it was her
job to sort out wire hangers at the laundry where she and her mother worked.
They were basically homeless and destitute, they lived in the back of the
laundry...those wire hangers were a stinging reminder of the Kansas white
trash milieu from whence she came.

In the very early morning hours in the summer I'll sometimes see elderly
Asian women here by the Chicago lakefront in Lincoln Park picking dandelion
greens. I always think "Where do they come from?". There are few elderly
Asians in the immediate area...


--
Best
Greg


Sheldon

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Oct 18, 2008, 5:49:31 PM10/18/08
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Exactly... I was refering to when Jill's dad was a kid going to
school. There were also few paved roads in NY at that time, in fact
much of NYC didn't have many paved roads
the either. During the '50s most of Brooklyn and Queens was farm land
with dirt roads. Back then the Interstate was still a dream in most
states... first time I drove from NY to LA in the early '60s much of
the way I traveled awful roads that were barely roads at all. Even
today most of NYS is still very rural with no paved roads. Lots of
people imagine all of NY is covered with C-ment and asphalt like
Manhattan, not true. Probably better than 90pct of NY is State
Forest, State Park, National Wildlife Sanctuary, Watershed, Wetlands,
National Seashore, plenty Agri... and a lot is Indian Reservation.
Most of the land surrounding where I live is Catskill State Forest/
Parkland, that's why the little bit of public land available for
residential and business is so darned expensive.

Blinky the Shark

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Oct 18, 2008, 5:49:08 PM10/18/08
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The Cook wrote:

In fact, in my parents' story, there may have been some other things
involved besides chewing gum, but that was the only one I fer-shure
remembered. :)

jmcquown

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Oct 18, 2008, 7:07:12 PM10/18/08
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> Louisiana anywhere at the time. He had to quit school at age 12,
> half-way through the seventh grade. His father had a massive heart
> attack and was told he could no longer work as a logger and farmer,
> the only trades he knew. Dad went to work for the Louisiana
> department of transportation, driving a 10-span (20 animals)mule team
> dragging a stone sled. The stone sled was a heavy duty sled, no
> wheels, hauling gravel to fill in the ruts and holes in the parish
> roads. Four large laborers rode on the sled too, they shoveled the
> gravel onto the road. Dad controlled the mules with a bull whip and
> often told me he could take a horse fly off a mules butt without
> hitting the mule. That would be about 1923, well before the
> depression.
> The family still lived pretty well due to living on my
> great-grandfather's homestead, taken up in 1872. In 1925 they moved to
> Beaumont, Texas because the federal government had eminent domained
> the homestead to make the Kisatchie National Forest. Greatgrandfather
> and mother could have stayed until their death but GGF was totally
> PO'ed at the gubmint. He was a Confederate veteran of the War of
> Northern Aggression and wouldn't stay on land that wasn't his
> anymore. The family did thrive in Texas and, to make a long story
> shorter, I was born there in 1939. Dad worked from 1928 to 1967 at an
> oil refinery in Beaumont and helped to support an extended family all
> through the Depression era. He was a good man, an excellent father,
> and I still miss him.

You folks are missing the point. Sheldon likes to call everyone Hillbillies
as if there was no such thing as indoor plumbing in the southern US. There
certainly is, and also up in Pennsylvania, too. But never mind. Carry on.

sf

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Oct 18, 2008, 7:13:05 PM10/18/08
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Make sure your dentures are in firmly. LOL

Seriously, the dining room chairs are very comfortable arm chairs and
there's a clear view to the fireplace in the living room. There's no
reason to move.

Felice

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Oct 18, 2008, 7:22:32 PM10/18/08
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"Gregory Morrow" <yyi...@yoopp.fi> wrote in message
news:TrWdnTciZNkoyGfV...@earthlink.com...

They seem to have replaced the elderly Italian women (including my
grandmother) who gathered dandelion grees to make wine. Bitter? You wouldn't
believe it!

Felice


Nancy Young

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:03:10 PM10/18/08
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Felice wrote:

> They seem to have replaced the elderly Italian women (including my
> grandmother) who gathered dandelion grees to make wine. Bitter? You
> wouldn't believe it!

Sounds like my ex's Italian grandmother. Did your grandmother
also gather cardoon, Felice?

nancy

Gloria P

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:27:21 PM10/18/08
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Andy wrote:
> To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
> scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!
>


In our house it was the "starving Armenians". Perhaps different states
were assigned different groups to agonize over. (When I was a kid, I
don't think Biafra existed as a geopolitical entity.)

gloria p

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Nancy Young

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:53:38 PM10/18/08
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Sqwertz wrote:

> That's not as bad as dropping live turkeys out of a helicopter as a
> Thanksgiving promotion?

That's ridiculous, they'd just fly away. Think it through!

nancy

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:55:59 PM10/18/08
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>
> The real test would be putting it up next to a Butterfinger bar,
> since they're almost exactly the same, IIRC. I think the Clark Bar
> leaned more towards a peanut flavor then BF. It's been 25 years
> sinxce I had a Clark Bar, but I used to walk by the factory several
> times a month on the way to Three Rivers Stadium. It smelled like
> stale sugar.

Rarely see them, but on a candy/supplies run to Wal Mart, they have the bite
sized in the Halloween candy aisle. They are similar, but a different
texture to the Butterfinger.


Pete C.

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Oct 18, 2008, 11:35:50 PM10/18/08
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Not the domesticated / farmed ones (this was a plot line from an old
WKRP episode BTW). Of course dropping frozen turkeys would be far more
fun.

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 18, 2008, 11:57:08 PM10/18/08
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"Nancy Young" <rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4jxKk.49027$IX7....@newsfe20.ams2...

Maybe they'd glide a bit, but domesticated turkeys don't fly. Can't get all
that oversized breast meat up in the air.


Nancy Young

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:13:42 AM10/19/08
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Pete C. wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> That's not as bad as dropping live turkeys out of a helicopter as a
>>> Thanksgiving promotion?
>>
>> That's ridiculous, they'd just fly away. Think it through!
>
> Not the domesticated / farmed ones (this was a plot line from an old
> WKRP episode BTW).

I know, I was goofing. What was the line? God as my witness
I thought turkeys could fly!

>Of course dropping frozen turkeys would be far more
> fun.

(laugh) Beats bowling with them.

nancy

Ophelia

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Oct 19, 2008, 7:06:31 AM10/19/08
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>> Grandpa told me gum would stick to my ribs.
>
> I was told that gum would collect in my appendix until I had to have
> surgery.

Yes, gum gets entwined around your heart. Also, if you swallow a seed or
pip, a tree will grow out of the top of your head.

Sheldon

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Oct 19, 2008, 8:42:11 AM10/19/08
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Sqwertz wrote:

> "tomba wrote:
> > My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> > father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> > Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> > could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> > better than Hersey bars.
>
> The real test would be putting it up next to a Butterfinger bar,
> since they're almost exactly the same, IIRC. �I think the Clark Bar
> leaned more towards a peanut flavor then BF. �It's been 25 years
> sinxce I had a Clark Bar, but I used to walk by the factory several
> times a month on the way to Three Rivers Stadium. �It smelled like
> stale sugar.

Yeah, right... Clark Bar took Mary Jane behind Powerhouse, stuck his
Toosie Roll up her Mello Roll, out came a Baby Ruth... Clark Bar
doesn't smell like stale sugar, Clark Bar smells like, um fish! <g>

Nancy Young

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Oct 19, 2008, 9:04:33 AM10/19/08
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Sheldon wrote:
> Exactly... I was refering to when Jill's dad was a kid going to
> school. There were also few paved roads in NY at that time, in fact
> much of NYC didn't have many paved roads
> the either. During the '50s most of Brooklyn and Queens was farm land
> with dirt roads.

Hard to believe, but when my mil was born, the house was on
a dirt road. Today you'd know it as Route 1&9, near Newark
Airport.

> Lots of
> people imagine all of NY is covered with C-ment and asphalt like
> Manhattan, not true. Probably better than 90pct of NY is State
> Forest, State Park, National Wildlife Sanctuary, Watershed, Wetlands,
> National Seashore, plenty Agri... and a lot is Indian Reservation.
> Most of the land surrounding where I live is Catskill State Forest/
> Parkland, that's why the little bit of public land available for
> residential and business is so darned expensive.

I spent the morning driving around Harriman State Park a couple
days ago, just gorgeous and I had no idea, it's enormous.

Even if you go into Manhattan, take a look at the size of
Central Park, it is a huge property that would be of incalculable
value, but someone had the foresight to save it and develop it
as a park.

nancy

Julia Altshuler

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Oct 19, 2008, 9:16:20 AM10/19/08
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Dimitri wrote:
>
> Potatoes growing in ears
> Watermelons in Stomachs
> Coke dissolving teeth.
> Smoking will stunt your growth.
> There is a monster hiding in your closet
> The boogie Man will get you.
> If you keep on doing it you'll go blind (can I do it just until I need
> Glasses?)
> If you keep making a funny face your Face will freeze that way.
> Wait until your father gets home he'll beat you within an inch of your
> life (I never did understand what within an Inch of my life was like but
> I never wanted to find out.


A good friend was told that she should rinse apples in cold water so the
worms would come out before she bit into it. The funny thing about that
one is how long she accepted it before realizing that she'd never seen a
worm in an apple, rinsed or no.


My parents weren't that creative. For me it was all about the horrible
health consequences of not eating. Sometimes it was not eating
vegetables. Sometimes it was not eating at all. And here I am all
these years later not overweight, no heart trouble, not suffering from
vitamin deficiencies, and while I'm not in perfect health, I can't see
that eating broccoli when I was 10 would have made that much difference.


--Lia

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Kathleen

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Oct 19, 2008, 11:41:48 AM10/19/08
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:50:20 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>He wouldn't eat greens because his mother made
>>>him pick dandylion greens during the depression.
>>
>>I read right here in rfc that dandelion greens are very good if you
>>pick them in the spring - before they've matured.
>
>
>
> If ya hate ya hate 'em...especially if they trigger memories of hard times.
>
> Kinda like the Joan Crawford "NO MORE WIRE HANGERS - EVER...!!!" thang, she
> could not stand the sight of them because as an impovershed kid it was her
> job to sort out wire hangers at the laundry where she and her mother worked.
> They were basically homeless and destitute, they lived in the back of the
> laundry...those wire hangers were a stinging reminder of the Kansas white
> trash milieu from whence she came.

There are certain accents that set my mother's teeth on edge, that sound
trashy and whiney to her. As best as I can peg it, they are
eastern/central european accents filtered by way of the US east coast.
They remind her of elderly relatives who couldn't/wouldn't assimilate.


> In the very early morning hours in the summer I'll sometimes see elderly
> Asian women here by the Chicago lakefront in Lincoln Park picking dandelion
> greens. I always think "Where do they come from?". There are few elderly
> Asians in the immediate area...

Depending on proximity to roads, and/or local chemical maintenance
regimes, I'm not sure I'd eat greens gathered in an urban environment,
at least not on anything like a regular basis.

blake murphy

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:23:17 PM10/19/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:13:03 GMT, Ozark Baby wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:18:27 -0400, Tara <jarv...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>

>>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:01:25 -0700 (PDT), "tomb...@city-net.com"
>><tomb...@city-net.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
>>>your parents?
>>

>>If you eat an orange seed, an orange tree will grow out of your belly
>>button.


>>
>>If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
>>years.
>>
>>Tara
>
> My mother told me that if I swallowed any bubble gum that one day when
> I belched a big bubble would form out of my mouth and I would fly
> away.

god forbid you should fart.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:29:33 PM10/19/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:49:08 -0700, Blinky the Shark wrote:

> The Cook wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:28:37 -0700, Blinky the Shark
>> <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:13:03 GMT, Ozark Baby <ozar...@xxxx.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:18:27 -0400, Tara <jarv...@ix.netcom.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you swallow your chewing gum, it will sit in your stomach for seven
>>>>>>years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tara
>>>>>
>>>>>My mother told me that if I swallowed any bubble gum that one day when
>>>>>I belched a big bubble would form out of my mouth and I would fly
>>>>>away.
>>>>
>>>> Grandpa told me gum would stick to my ribs.
>>>
>>>I was told that gum would collect in my appendix until I had to have
>>>surgery.
>>
>> I was told that I would get appendicitis if I ate grape seeds.
>
> In fact, in my parents' story, there may have been some other things
> involved besides chewing gum, but that was the only one I fer-shure
> remembered. :)

blinky, i'm sure that you of all people are aware that cecil adams has
addressed this:

<http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/398/is-swallowing-chewing-gum-dangerous>

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:31:27 PM10/19/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:43:28 +0200, Victor Sack wrote:

> Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> Sardines are no more brain food than any other type
>> of meat.
>
> They are. It is a scientific fact, mentioned in many of P.G.
> Wodehouse's learned treatises. It is by now common knowledge that
> Jeeves subsisted mostly on fish, with specifically sardines mentioned
> approvingly several times and only once obliquely disapprovingly (but in
> a social, as distinct from brain-improving, context). Jeeves himself
> indirectly confirmed his fish sardine addiction several times, with only
> once asserting that he is not fond of them (having eaten a wagonload of
> them just prior, no doubt).
>
> Victor

screw mccain and obama. jeeves for president! (we can always doctor his
birth certificate.)

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:39:41 PM10/19/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:33:25 -0400, Felice wrote:

> "sf" <sf@g_mail.com> wrote in message
> news:c0ckf4polvodp0ekb...@4ax.com...


>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:22:53 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>>
>>>To this day, thanks to Mom [RIP], I'm still troubled that the dinner food
>>>scraps I didn't finish never made their way to starving Biafrans!
>>>

>> What about all those starving kids in China?
>
> And in MY day, the starving Armenians.
>
> Felice

i thought 'armenians' was the choice of jewish mothers.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:41:48 PM10/19/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:36:36 -0700, Dimitri wrote:

> <tomb...@city-net.com> wrote in message
> news:579a6553-e942-4d7d...@t65g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...


>> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
>> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
>> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
>> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not

>> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
>> your parents?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> PS: In "Candyfreak" the author mentions that in the 1920's Clark bars
>> promoted their product by having an airplane fly over Pittsburgh, and
>> drop Clark bars to all the kids. Can anyone say Berlin Airlift?
>

> Smoking will stunt your growth.

it's true! i smoked for thirty-odd years and all of a sudden i was two
feet shorter!

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Oct 19, 2008, 12:47:26 PM10/19/08
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:33:45 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:24:44 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>And what's about chewing 27 times???
>
> 27 is for sissies. Try 32. ;)

'fletcherism,' after horace fletcher. one of my favorite all-american
kooks, in that the fad he inspired didn't actually hurt anybody. it was
very, very big at one time.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Fletcher>

your pal,
blake

George Shirley

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Oct 19, 2008, 1:02:36 PM10/19/08
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Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> George Shirley <gsh...@bellsouth.net>
> news:o7pKk.51851$vX2....@bignews6.bellsouth.net: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> And most of the folks who live that way do so because they prefer it.
>> I've still got distant cousins in Central Louisiana who wouldn't move
>> if an atomic bomb landed nearby. It's home, it's the way they like it,
>> and danged if they're going to go elsewhere. Poor but proud as my
>> Grandmother used to say. Actually you would probably be better off
>> among them than you would be in a large city, most are good people.
>
> I think what you say about preferring it that way is true. Not only with
> the poor but with the wealthy as well. You couldn't transplant my aunt and
> uncle. My aunt inherited the house they live in (from her family) and her
> family has had it for Gawd knows how many generations. They have both
> worked their entire lives to maintain that place and they are proud people.
> They are also generous people. I've found the same to be true of many of
> the old line southern people I've met, regardless of economic status.
> Those souther manners and generousity are something to be envious of. At
> least I am.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
Those manners and generosity are easy enough to acquire Michael. Just be
gracious and giving in all that you do. You don't have to be southern to
do so.

My parents grew up in poverty of a sort, particularly my Mom, her family
never owned a home or a farm or anything. She left third grade at age
fourteen because she felt she had enough education to pick crops here
and there, as in "migrant farm workers." Poverty doesn't matter if you
think you're making it anyway. They always had food and shelter of a
sort because they weren't afraid to work for it at whatever wage they
could get. People who are forced to live that way make up for it by
being proud of who they are and how they act toward other people, with
graciousness and courtesy. Mom was from the midwest, more particularly
the triangle of Kansas/Missouri/Oklahoma.

cybercat

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"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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It must be true. I smoked for 25 years and when I quit I got two feet wider!


Lynn from Fargo

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On Oct 18, 6:22 pm, "Felice" <fri...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Gregory Morrow" <yyi...@yoopp.fi> wrote in message
>
> news:TrWdnTciZNkoyGfV...@earthlink.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > sf wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:50:20 -0400, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net>

> >> wrote:
>
> >> >He wouldn't eat greens because his mother made
> >> >him pick dandylion greens during the depression.
>
> >> I read right here in rfc that dandelion greens are very good if you
> >> pick them in the spring - before they've matured.
>
> > If ya hate ya hate 'em...especially if they trigger memories of hard
> > times.
>
> > Kinda like the Joan Crawford "NO MORE WIRE HANGERS - EVER...!!!" thang,
> > she
> > could not stand the sight of them because as an impovershed kid it was her
> > job to sort out wire hangers at the laundry where she and her mother
> > worked.
> > They were basically homeless and destitute, they lived in the back of the
> > laundry...those wire hangers were a stinging reminder of the Kansas white
> > trash milieu from whence she came.
>
> > In the very early morning hours in the summer I'll sometimes see elderly
> > Asian women here by the Chicago lakefront in Lincoln Park picking
> > dandelion
> > greens.  I always think "Where do they come from?".  There are few elderly
> > Asians in the immediate area...
>
> They seem to have replaced the elderly Italian women (including my
> grandmother) who gathered dandelion grees to make wine. Bitter? You wouldn't
> believe it!
>
> Felice
=============================
Dandelion wine is made from blossoms, not greens. And it is sweet, not
bitter.
Lynn in Fargo

Lynn from Fargo

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Oct 19, 2008, 2:36:52 PM10/19/08
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=====================================
Modern "bred for the breasts" turkeys cannot fly.
Lynn in Fargo
PS: They are also very stupid birds, now. Unlike wild turkeys.

Lynn from Fargo

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======================
I think that's Arameans . . . as in "a wandering Aramean was my
father . . ." from the Passover liturgy.
Lynn in Fargo
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Nancy Young

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Oct 19, 2008, 3:12:04 PM10/19/08
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Sqwertz wrote:

> Lynn from Fargo <lynn...@i29.net> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 18, 9:53 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> That's ridiculous, they'd just fly away. Think it through!
>>
>> Modern "bred for the breasts" turkeys cannot fly.
>> Lynn in Fargo
>> PS: They are also very stupid birds, now. Unlike wild turkeys.
>
> Not bad. You got three with that one, Nancy :-)

(laugh) For my next classic tv reference, what does a yellow
light mean?

> I was of course referring to WKRP in Cincinnati when I posted that.
> I thought more than 1 out of 4 people would recognize the episode
> ;-)
>
> Mr Carlson: "With God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

I think I laughed so hard I cried.

nancy

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sf

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Oct 19, 2008, 6:10:38 PM10/19/08
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They were just things our parents and grandparents told us. It was
funny, so we remembered it. It goes no deeper than that.

If we actually believed it, God forbid we should break a mirror or
spill any salt.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

jmcquown

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Sheldon wrote:
> On Oct 18, 12:46�am, "HiTech RedNeck" <hitechCOLOR-OF-
> BLOODn...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:579a6553-e942-4d7d...@t65g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>

>>> Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
>>> your parents?
>>
>> My dad always spoke of horseradish as cleaning out sinuses. �It
>> didn't really but it felt like it.
>
> Actually horseradish does clean out sinuses, by very effectively
> shrinking the sinus membranes (just not very pleasant), hot mustard
> the same (Musterole), so does Vicks vapor.


My grandmother used to make Dad *eat* Vick's Vapo-Rub when he was a kid if
he had a sore throat. Gross! He learned pretty quick not to tell her his
throat was sore ;)

Jill

Phyllis Stone

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Oct 19, 2008, 9:42:27 PM10/19/08
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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6m1utcF...@mid.individual.net...

>
> My grandmother used to make Dad *eat* Vick's Vapo-Rub when he was a kid if
> he had a sore throat. Gross! He learned pretty quick not to tell her his
> throat was sore ;)
>
> Jill

My mother made me gargle with hot pepper sauce.
>


Gregory Morrow

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Oct 20, 2008, 3:34:29 AM10/20/08
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Nancy Young wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> > Exactly... I was refering to when Jill's dad was a kid going to
> > school. There were also few paved roads in NY at that time, in fact
> > much of NYC didn't have many paved roads
> > the either. During the '50s most of Brooklyn and Queens was farm land
> > with dirt roads.
>
> Hard to believe, but when my mil was born, the house was on
> a dirt road. Today you'd know it as Route 1&9, near Newark
> Airport.
>
> > Lots of
> > people imagine all of NY is covered with C-ment and asphalt like
> > Manhattan, not true. Probably better than 90pct of NY is State
> > Forest, State Park, National Wildlife Sanctuary, Watershed, Wetlands,
> > National Seashore, plenty Agri... and a lot is Indian Reservation.
> > Most of the land surrounding where I live is Catskill State Forest/
> > Parkland, that's why the little bit of public land available for
> > residential and business is so darned expensive.
>
> I spent the morning driving around Harriman State Park a couple
> days ago, just gorgeous and I had no idea, it's enormous.
>


When you hear "New York", you think of NYC, but New York state is one of
*the* major agricultural states...


> Even if you go into Manhattan, take a look at the size of
> Central Park, it is a huge property that would be of incalculable
> value, but someone had the foresight to save it and develop it
> as a park.


Today on the Turner Classic Movie channel there was a 1949 MGM Technicolor
travelogue short entitled, "New York, The Wonder City". It showed the horse
carriages in Central Park and mentioned, "Believe it or not, there are still
20,000 horses in New York City"...

If you watch "documentary" - type films shot in NYC c. the late 40's (I'm
thinking specifically of 1948's _The Naked City_ ...) you'll still see
horse - drawn ice and produce wagons and such...

IIRC there is still one working farm in all of NYC, it's part of a historic
old Dutch farmstead in one of the boroughs...

BTW that NYC travelogue is included as an extra on the DVD of the splendid
1953 MGM musical _Kiss Me Kate_, starrring Ann Miller. Miller is featured
in the travelogue, entering the Starlight Roof nightclub atop the Waldorf -
Astoria...it also shows extensive rooftop gardens atop some of the
Rockefeller Center buildings.


--
Best
Greg


George Shirley

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Oct 20, 2008, 7:59:23 AM10/20/08
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I liked my mother's remedy best. Slice up a couple of lemons, just
barely cover with water in a pan, simmer until the liquid is thick. Add
some honey and a couple of shots of Old Crow, give it to the kid. The
lemon and honey soothes the sore throat, the booze makes the damned kid
sleepy and keeps him quiet.

Golden One

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On Oct 18, 7:55 am, Miche <michei...@gee-mail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <579a6553-e942-4d7d-a012-45921ec5a...@t65g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  "tomba...@city-net.com" <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote:
> > My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> > father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> > Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> > could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> > better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> > your parents?
>
> It's not hard for something to be better than Hershey bars. ;)
>
> I was told that certain foods (I can't remember which; it changed) would
> either make my hair curl or put hair on my chest.  
>
> I didn't want either.
>
> Miche
>
> --
> Electricians do it in three phases

In my house, bread crusts gave you curly hair ;-)

JB

Wayne Boatwright

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On Fri 17 Oct 2008 04:01:25p, tomb...@city-net.com told us...

> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?

The only thing I remember my parents telling me was that drinking coffee
would stunt my growth. Funny, though, they let me drink iced coffee with
cream. :-)

Never anything about foods, though.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)

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On Oct 18, 8:04 am, Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com> wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote:

> > tomba wrote:
> > > My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> > > father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> > > Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> > > could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> > > better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> > > your parents?
>
> > There's always the baked potato story. But in Dad's case it was true. He
> > actually did carry a hot baked potato to school in his mittened hands and
> > then ate it cold for lunch. We're talking the GREAT American Depression.
> > 1930's. He did not, however, walk uphill both ways to school in 3 feet of
> > snow ;)
>
> In NYC ('40s-'50s) we bought steaming hot potatoes during winter from
> the sweet potato man's cart (a push cart with a wood fired oven),
> humongus sweet potatoes a penny a piece... very effective pocket
> warmers... lots of street venders sold hot food that made great pocket
> warmers; roasted chestnuts, roasted peanuts, penny k'nishes were a
> favorite... back then hot just out of the oven bagels were a penny....
> in the mid '50s a slice of pizza from a large pie was a dime (entire
> 18" pie was 75 cents),too much for kids but Sicilian slices (huge
> thick doughy squares, not much topping) were a nickel.  A gigantic
> serving of fresh made thick cut fries in a brown paper bag cost a
> nickle at the deli.  Everywhere sold large servings of thick hot home
> made soups in paper containers with a wooden spoon for pennies.  As
> kids we rarely had enough pennies so we'd pool what we had and shared,
> servings were larger than two kids could finish anyway... there was
> always some little kid hanging around who had no pennies drooling for
> our left overs.  We'd get pennies collecting deposit bottles and
> collecting old newpapers, a penny a hundred pounds at the junkie (in
> those days a junkie was really the guy who owned the junkyard, and
> there really were junkyard dogs).  Girls hardly ever had pennies, but
> if we shared with them they'd let us guys feel them up... of course
> seven year olds don't have much to feel, didn't much matter, seven
> year old boys didn't know where to feel... a lot of forty year old
> guys still don't know. LOL

Fuck, you must be older than them thar hills :)

Cindy Hamilton

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On Oct 17, 7:01 pm, "tomba...@city-net.com" <tomba...@city-net.com>

wrote:
> My parents would always tell me that candy was bad for me, but my
> father said that Clark bars were healthy. He was raised in the
> Pittsburgh PA area where Clark bars were made. Of course as a kid how
> could I argue with his logic. Clark bars were just as good if not
> better than Hersey bars. Anyone else have a food "fable" provided by
> your parents?

My grandmother thought that cucumber peels were poisonous. She also
wouldn't let me drink milk with fish because "the fish would curdle
the milk
in your stomach".

Of course, some nauseating concoction of Cool Whip and miniature
marshmallows
was fine by her. Her sister, by contrast, was a very good cook of the
Old School.
Wonderful biscuits, but the recipe had stuff like "shortening the size
of an egg", and
I was never able to acquire her knack.

Cindy Hamilton

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