Too close for comfort...
Omelet
broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had pushed
the "self clean" button. :-(
I'm glad it did not lock.
I shut it off and removed all the pots and pans in there so it'd cool
down faster.
I'm sure that could have caused a fire...
He'll be more careful in the future, I hope! Push button stuff on a
stove is a very bad idea, especially finger pads.
--
Peace, Om
Remove _ to validate e-mails.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
Johnanon
> Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
>
> Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had pushed
> the "self clean" button. :-(
>
> I'm glad it did not lock.
>
> I shut it off and removed all the pots and pans in there so it'd cool
> down faster.
>
> I'm sure that could have caused a fire...
>
> He'll be more careful in the future, I hope! Push button stuff on a
> stove is a very bad idea, especially finger pads.
Perhaps he was trying to collect on the fire insurance and this
was his way of saying he wanted to go to an old folks home.
Omelet
Johnanon <postm...@ftc.gov> wrote:
<lol> Not!!!
This is a first for sure...
We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
Default User
> Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
>
> Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had
> pushed the "self clean" button. :-(
Oh, mine won't do clean unless the door is latched and you set a timer
so it knows when to shut off.
Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
Nancy Young
"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
That's not true, unless perhaps someone has used oven cleaner
on it and ruined the finish. Self-clean leaves a beautifully
clean oven, just wipe up a few ashes.
nancy
Omelet
"Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>
> > Went out to the kitchen a bit ago to finally cook that pork and
> > broccoli, and found the stove HOT all over!
> >
> > Dad had cleaned the surface after he'd made his omelets and had
> > pushed the "self clean" button. :-(
>
> Oh, mine won't do clean unless the door is latched and you set a timer
> so it knows when to shut off.
>
>
>
>
> Brian
I thought that's how it was supposed to work too.
Seems it only stayed on a short time, but that was enough to do some
damage.
Ophelia
"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:omp_omelet-152F3...@news.giganews.com...
>>
> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
money:) thanks:)
Nancy Young
"Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote
> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>
> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
> money:) thanks:)
Sorry, but don't believe everything you read. Many people are quite
happy with self-clean ovens and they do a fine job.
nancy
The Cook
I have used self cleaning ovens since 1968 and would not have any
other type of oven. My ovens come clean and all that is required is
to wipe out some ash. There was a continuous clean oven that was not
worth it. I don't think I have seen one in years.
--
Susan N.
"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)
Nancy Young
"The Cook" <susan_...@yahoo.com> wrote
> I have used self cleaning ovens since 1968 and would not have any
> other type of oven. My ovens come clean and all that is required is
> to wipe out some ash. There was a continuous clean oven that was not
> worth it. I don't think I have seen one in years.
Not being self-cleaning is a deal breaker for me when it comes
to buying an oven. Forget it, it's not even under consideration. I'm
done with cleaning ovens, not that I ever spent that much time on it.
Even now, I only run the self-clean cycle a couple three times a year.
I wouldn't be without it if it's at all avoidable.
nancy
hahabogus
news:ueudnYw9qcpgDlzb...@comcast.com:
> I wouldn't be without it if it's at all avoidable.
>
> nancy
>
>
>
>
I feel the same way.
--
The house of the burning beet-Alan
It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore
George
mentioned is cleaning it with oven cleaner which destroys the coating.
Goomba38
>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
>> money:) thanks:)
>
> Sorry, but don't believe everything you read. Many people are quite
> happy with self-clean ovens and they do a fine job.
>
> nancy
>
I've never had any complaints with mine and I've never ever seen one
that can be accidentally turned on. The thing *does* get hot, but I just
let it chug along late at night when it won't bother anyone. My oven
probably only needs cleaning once every 18 months or so? I'm a neat
cook. I usually keep spills and overcooking contained with an underpan
on the shelf below the rack I'm using, but not so big that it interferes
with air circulation.
I prefer my self cleaning oven way more than any continuous clean one
I've owned.
Omelet
"Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
Heh!
It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
thing they are the cats meow.
But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
cycle, even with all the windows open.
I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
way.
Nancy Young
"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a lot of
>> money:) thanks:)
> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
> cycle, even with all the windows open.
No they don't, though you need to make sure the windows are
open the first time you use it.
nancy
James Silverton
??>> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
??>>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have
??>>> saved me a lot of money:) thanks:)
??>> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days
??>> when you run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
NY> No they don't, though you need to make sure the windows are
NY> open the first time you use it.
We've had electric self-cleaning ovens for over 30 years and
they work very well indeed. It does help to have a working
kitchen extractor fan.
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
sf
wrote:
>
>It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
>thing they are the cats meow.
>
I do - MEOW!
>But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
>cycle, even with all the windows open.
>
It doesn't - if you don't wait until your oven is totally disgusting
to clean it. You DO need a powerful exhaust fan to draw out smell and
I found that a small fan in the doorway helps keep smells out of the
rest of the house if I'm cleaning an oven I've allowed to get nasty.
>I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
>way.
Not me. I love my self cleaning oven, automatic dishwasher, garbage
disposal and washer/dryer set.
--
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marks
Omelet
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:06:15 -0500, Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
> >thing they are the cats meow.
> >
> I do - MEOW!
>
> >But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
> >cycle, even with all the windows open.
> >
> It doesn't - if you don't wait until your oven is totally disgusting
> to clean it. You DO need a powerful exhaust fan to draw out smell and
> I found that a small fan in the doorway helps keep smells out of the
> rest of the house if I'm cleaning an oven I've allowed to get nasty.
>
> >I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
> >way.
>
> Not me. I love my self cleaning oven, automatic dishwasher, garbage
> disposal and washer/dryer set.
I wash dishes by hand too.
I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
I'm such a primitive. ;-)
notbob
> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
Me, too! Of course, in my case, it's just sour grapes. ;)
nb
sf
wrote:
>In article <g184c3h8suflls9g7...@4ax.com>, sf wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:06:15 -0500, Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
>> >thing they are the cats meow.
>> >
>> I do - MEOW!
>>
>> >But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you run a
>> >cycle, even with all the windows open.
>> >
>> It doesn't - if you don't wait until your oven is totally disgusting
>> to clean it. You DO need a powerful exhaust fan to draw out smell and
>> I found that a small fan in the doorway helps keep smells out of the
>> rest of the house if I'm cleaning an oven I've allowed to get nasty.
>>
>> >I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
>> >way.
>>
>> Not me. I love my self cleaning oven, automatic dishwasher, garbage
>> disposal and washer/dryer set.
>
>I wash dishes by hand too.
>I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
>I'm such a primitive. ;-)
Yes, you are.... either that or you really want a new set of dishes
every year.
So either you're really primitave or really, really smart!
Cindy Hamilton
> I wash dishes by hand too.
> I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
inside
of the box, either.
And it does it all while I'm at work.
Cindy Hamilton
Omelet
notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
There are only two of us, and the pets.
The pets generate more dishes than the two of us.
Cleaning up takes maybe 10 minutes once or twice per day.
When I cook, I clean up as I go and end up with a clean kitchen before
serving.
Omelet
> >I'm such a primitive. ;-)
>
> Yes, you are.... either that or you really want a new set of dishes
> every year.
>
> So either you're really primitave or really, really smart!
>
Why do you say a new set of dishes?
Hand-washing them does not hurt them!
We chip or drop/break a dish or bowl only on a very rare basis, and
that's usually one that gets knocked off the counter or some other
equally silly accident. ;-)
I can only think of 2, maybe 3 times where I have broken something
washing it.
I don't break my spectacles when I hand-clean them either, altho' I
finally put a Lanyard on the new pair since they were so bloody
expensive this time.
$430.00 out of pocket. :-(
I still am going to have to look at a pair of OTC reading glasses for
the computer screen...
Omelet
Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
There are only two of us.
If I had a passle of kids or other relatives living here, I might
reconsider.
The only time I have a mess of dishes is when I have dinner guests, but
my new guest plates were $7.00 each.
I prefer to hand-wash them.
Goomba38
work....? LOL
Omelet
Goomba38 <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote:
Wait for advancements in Robotics. ;-)
"I Robot" comes to mind.
Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.
While I don't mind washing dishes, I HATE trying to keep the damned
floors clean but still do since I cannot stand cruddy floors.
It's a helluva lot more work.
sf
wrote:
>In article <qr75c3t3c42a23gt4...@4ax.com>, sf wrote:
>
>> >I'm such a primitive. ;-)
>>
>> Yes, you are.... either that or you really want a new set of dishes
>> every year.
>>
>> So either you're really primitave or really, really smart!
>>
>
>Why do you say a new set of dishes?
>Hand-washing them does not hurt them!
>
>We chip or drop/break a dish or bowl only on a very rare basis, and
>that's usually one that gets knocked off the counter or some other
>equally silly accident. ;-)
>
>I can only think of 2, maybe 3 times where I have broken something
>washing it.
Well, that's not the case with me. Those beasts are slippery and I
break something everyday my dishwasher is out of commission. Good for
me that I approve of dishwashers and dislike washing dishes by hand.
sf
wrote:
>In article <1187184720....@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I wash dishes by hand too.
>> > I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>>
>> My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
>> It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
>> inside
>> of the box, either.
>>
>> And it does it all while I'm at work.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>There are only two of us.
That's why you buy service for eight. Rinse it off and put it in the
dishwasher. When it's full, run it.
>
>If I had a passle of kids or other relatives living here, I might
>reconsider.
>
We do it with just 2 people.
>The only time I have a mess of dishes is when I have dinner guests, but
>my new guest plates were $7.00 each.
>
>I prefer to hand-wash them.
Good grief! I'd put $77 plates in the dishwasher. They make
everything dishwasher safe now.
Ophelia
> In article <5iddn4F...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:omp_omelet-152F3...@news.giganews.com...
>>>>
>>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>>
>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a
>> lot of money:) thanks:)
>
> Heh!
>
> It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem to
> thing they are the cats meow.
>
> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you
> run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
>
> I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old fashioned
> way.
Yep me too. David cleans ours:))))
sf
wrote:
That's what those dishwasher drawers are for. Put one on each side of
the sink. One has the clean dishes, the other takes dirty..... you
never need to put them away. :)
Cindy Hamilton
> In article <1187184720.346282.65...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 14, 10:09 pm, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I wash dishes by hand too.
> > > I consider dishwashers to be a wasted of water and electricity.
>
> > My dishwasher uses much less water than if I washed dishes by hand.
> > It doesn't use very much electricity to pump the water around the
> > inside
> > of the box, either.
>
> > And it does it all while I'm at work.
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> There are only two of us.
There are only two of us. I run the dishwasher about 6 times a week.
> If I had a passle of kids or other relatives living here, I might
> reconsider.
>
> The only time I have a mess of dishes is when I have dinner guests, but
> my new guest plates were $7.00 each.
My guests use the same dishes that I do every day. There are no
"good dishes" in this house. (No bad ones, either.)
> I prefer to hand-wash them.
I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
energy
to heat the water.
Cindy Hamilton
Omelet
> >We chip or drop/break a dish or bowl only on a very rare basis, and
> >that's usually one that gets knocked off the counter or some other
> >equally silly accident. ;-)
> >
> >I can only think of 2, maybe 3 times where I have broken something
> >washing it.
>
>
> Well, that's not the case with me. Those beasts are slippery and I
> break something everyday my dishwasher is out of commission. Good for
> me that I approve of dishwashers and dislike washing dishes by hand.
You know that the best pagan high priestesses are known to be klutzes...
<vbg>
Omelet
> Good grief! I'd put $77 plates in the dishwasher. They make
> everything dishwasher safe now.
$7.00 each, not $77.00 each!
2 to 4 dinner guests. $28.00 to $42.00 to wash.
They really are pretty. Ruby Glass and 14" across.
After doing a file search all I can say is Damn, I need to take a better
pic than the Southern Breakfast pic. ;-)
http://i10.tinypic.com/2djvqt3.jpg
Something a bit more representative as to why it's good to spend the
cash on "big plates". <G>
I do have a pair of cornish in the freezer,
or do I want to do steaks?
Hmmmmmmmmm........
Omelet
"Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
Easy off. ;-)
And slave labor. <G> (just kidding!!!)
Omelet
Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I prefer to hand-wash them.
>
> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> energy
> to heat the water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
Nancy Young
"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
> Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
>> energy
>> to heat the water.
> Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
>
> I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
seconds to put the plates in.
nancy
Omelet
"Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
meditative.
Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)
Nancy Young
"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
> "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
>> >> energy
>> >> to heat the water.
>>
>> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
>> >
>> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>>
>> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
>> seconds to put the plates in.
> Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> meditative.
That's fine, no one cares how you do your dishes.
>
> Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)
Less water, and quiet. Some you can't even tell are running.
nancy
Omelet
"Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>
> >> > Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> >> >> energy
> >> >> to heat the water.
> >>
> >> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
> >> >
> >> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
> >>
> >> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
> >> seconds to put the plates in.
>
> > Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> > meditative.
>
> That's fine, no one cares how you do your dishes.
Thank you!!! :-)
> >
> > Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)
>
> Less water, and quiet. Some you can't even tell are running.
>
> nancy
I still can't see how running a dishwasher for an hour can use less
water than running the sink on low for rinsing for 10 minutes, plus the
very few seconds it takes to heat the water that I use in the soapy
dishpan that it takes literally seconds to fill...
A dishwasher has GOT to burn more electricity!
Nancy Young
"Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
> "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>
>> >> > Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> energy
>> >> >> to heat the water.
>> >>
>> >> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on
>> >> > usage.
>> >> >
>> >> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>> >>
>> >> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
>> >> seconds to put the plates in.
>>
>> > Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>> > meditative.
>>
>> That's fine, no one cares how you do your dishes.
>
> Thank you!!! :-)
>> > Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy.
>> > :-)
>>
>> Less water, and quiet. Some you can't even tell are running.
> I still can't see how running a dishwasher for an hour can use less
> water than running the sink on low for rinsing for 10 minutes,
There's your problem. You think it's running water the whole time.
That using a dishwasher to do dishes uses less water than handwashing
has been proven scientifically. Also, you are not taking into account
that the water a dishwasher uses washes all the dishes I dirty in 3 or 4
days, not some water every day. The more dishes you wash, the more
water you use. I run a full load and it's done with that one small amount
of water.
Regardless, don't use a dishwasher, it's everyone's personal choice,
but don't give dishwashers all these bad attributes they don't deserve.
Ditto self-cleaning ovens. Just you don't use them. No need to
badmouth them.
nancy
sf
wrote:
>Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>meditative.
If you find scrubbing the floor and cleaning the toilet meditative
too, please come over to my house. You'd be a most excellent guest.
;)
>
>Dishwashing machines use more power, more water, and they are noisy. :-)
Power.... I'll give you that one - people don't plug in to an
electrical source, but you can save a lot of energy if you don't use
the dry cycle.
Water.... dishwashers use less water.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/08/dishwasher_vs_h.php
http://environment.about.com/od/greenlivingdesign/a/dishwashers.htm
Noise.... we've had several threads recently in rfc about how quiet
modern dishwashers are.
Ophelia
> In article <5igs5gF...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article <5iddn4F...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:omp_omelet-152F3...@news.giganews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>> We may have to look at the circuitry and disconnect it.
>>>>> I never use that function anyway as all it does is burn in stains.
>>>>> Self-cleaning oven is an oxymoron.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have always wanted a self clean oven! You have saved me a
>>>> lot of money:) thanks:)
>>>
>>> Heh!
>>>
>>> It really is a matter of opinion. I don't like them, but many seem
>>> to thing they are the cats meow.
>>>
>>> But everyone agrees that they stink up the house for days when you
>>> run a cycle, even with all the windows open.
>>>
>>> I'm just not enthusiastic about them. I'll clean it the old
>>> fashioned way.
>>
>> Yep me too. David cleans ours:))))
>
> Easy off. ;-)
>
> And slave labor. <G> (just kidding!!!)
Not at all:)) He does floors and windows too <G>
Dee Dee
>
> Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.
>
> While I don't mind washing dishes, I HATE trying to keep the damned
> floors clean but still do since I cannot stand cruddy floors.
>
> It's a helluva lot more work.
> --
> Peace, Om
>
I'm always looking for something easier for cleaning floors. I saw a woman
using a Shark stick broom day before yesterday at McDo's, similar looking to
a swiffer dust mop, and I had to have it. I looked online and found nothing
remotely similar. Shopping at Lowe's didn't find it either. Good ole'
Costco -- right there it was.
I do have the Roomba - have had it for quite a while. I turn it loose
downstairs where the whole floor is the same carpet. I pick up around
things, close the door and turn it on and let it run down. Plug it in,
charge it, and it's ready for another room another day.
Not so easy upstairs where there's wood floor and rugs. So I have to use
the Swiffer and DH does the rugs (occasionally).
Dee Dee
(whose floors seem cruddy all the time -- YUK!)
Dee Dee
>
> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
> energy
> to heat the water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
We got a new dishwasher about a month or so ago. It's fancy, I think. But
something new on it that I'd never had before is the sanitizer. DH turned
it on by mistake -- I pulled out a 1/2 gallon mason jar -- ouch! This would
be excellent for canning IMO -- of course, I don't really know, but it's
darned hot.
Dee Dee
Becca
> Wait for advancements in Robotics. ;-)
>
> "I Robot" comes to mind.
>
> Don't think I've not seriously considered a Roomba or a Scooba.
The Roomba works great every time. I also have the Scooba, and when it
works it does a fantastic job on the floors, but the simplest little
thing, such as the water being too sudsy, and the Scooba will give me an
error message. Sonsabitches...
Becca
Omelet
> If you find scrubbing the floor and cleaning the toilet meditative
> too, please come over to my house. You'd be a most excellent guest.
> ;)
Last time I was a house guest, I washed the dishes AND the broiler pan.
<G>
I also purchased the main entree... (cornish game hens)
Omelet
"Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
Omelet
"Dee Dee" <deed...@shentel.net> wrote:
What do you think of the Scooba concept?
It's newer than the Roomba.
I don't have any carpets and recently did purchase a floor cleaner
similar to a rug shampooer. It's been great.
Omelet
Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
Some of the Scooba promotionals come with a basic Roomba for free.
They recommend that you run it first.
Ophelia
>>
>> Not at all:)) He does floors and windows too <G>
>
> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
You gotta be kidding.. right??????????????? :)))
blake murphy
wrote:
>In article <oLGdnYVVgZ592V7b...@comcast.com>,
> "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I prefer to use the dishwasher because it conserves time, water, and
>> >> energy
>> >> to heat the water.
>>
>> > Takes me 10 minutes once or twice per day to wash, depending on usage.
>> >
>> > I doubt the dishwasher cycle is that short.
>>
>> You don't stand there watching it wash the dishes. Takes a few
>> seconds to put the plates in.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>meditative.
>
you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
your pal,
blake
Omelet
Omelet
blake murphy <bla...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> >meditative.
> >
>
> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
>
> your pal,
> blake
Only if I do Kegels...
Dee Dee
> In article <2h59c35v81iuodlnf...@4ax.com>,
> blake murphy <bla...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>> >meditative.
>> >
>>
>> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Only if I do Kegels...
> --
> Peace, Om
>
I'd never heard of Kegels -- but DH & I go to the same clinic year after
year for a yearly diagnostic. (No, we're not autos.) One year about 10
years ago, the doctor was running down his list of questions, never looking
up or giving me a moment to answer. Somehow it was mistakenly opined that I
do regular Kegel exercises. It continues to be in my diagnostic evaluation
report each year that I do them regularly. I get a chuckle everytime I see
it.
Regarding medical privileged information, if another doctor ever mentions it
to me that it is in a report that I use these, I'll know that my records
must be available.
Dee Dee
Omelet
"Dee Dee" <deed...@shentel.net> wrote:
There are many benefits to doing them, for both men and women. :-)
Ophelia
> In article <5ijj07F...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not at all:)) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>>
>>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>>
>> You gotta be kidding.. right??????????????? :)))
>
> <winks>
hehehehe
sf
wrote:
Does this mean you're *not* coming over? :(
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Ophelia
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <5iia4sF...@mid.individual.net>,
>> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not at all:)) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>
>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>
> Does this mean you're *not* coming over? :(
Who?
sf
Her! <motioning head in *that* direction> The one who likes to wash
dishes and I was hoping did floors and toilets too.
Ophelia
<sf> wrote in message news:sde9c35a29j7vk4ff...@4ax.com...
LOL gotcha:))))
Becca
> Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
> Some of the Scooba promotionals come with a basic Roomba for free.
> They recommend that you run it first.
The Scooba instructions say to run the Scooba on a unswept floor. If you
have rocks or pebbles, they suggest you pick those up. It works great,
when it doesn't give me problems. I got angry at it one day and I put
it in the garage. The next day, I brought it back in the house and I
gave it a hug. <g>
Becca
blake murphy
wrote:
>In article <2h59c35v81iuodlnf...@4ax.com>,
> blake murphy <bla...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
>> >meditative.
>> >
>>
>> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Only if I do Kegels...
multi-tasking forever!
your pal,
blake
Omelet
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <5iia4sF...@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not at all:)) He does floors and windows too <G>
> >
> >If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>
> Does this mean you're *not* coming over? :(
I'll do dishes, but floors are a drag. ;-)
If I get a scooba eventually, I may loan it to ya!
Omelet
Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I detest
a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as needed" basis.
Often daily by one or both of us!
I cannot STAND a dirty commode!
I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
;-*
Omelet
Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
<lol> I can imagine!
I know a couple that have a Roomba that almost consider it to be a pet.
;-)
Omelet
blake murphy <bla...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:57:49 -0500, Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <2h59c35v81iuodlnf...@4ax.com>,
> > blake murphy <bla...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >Sorry, but I find the 10 minutes it takes me to wash dishes to be
> >> >meditative.
> >> >
> >>
> >> you can't fool me. you're having orgasms, aren't you?
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> >Only if I do Kegels...
>
> multi-tasking forever!
>
> your pal,
> blake
Multi-tasking is a marketable skill. <smirk>
Ophelia
> In article <sde9c35a29j7vk4ff...@4ax.com>, sf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:33:57 +0100, "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:49:00 -0500, Omelet <omp_o...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <5iia4sF...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>> "Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not at all:)) He does floors and windows too <G>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ever decide to dump him, let us know. ;-D
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean you're *not* coming over? :(
>>>
>>> Who?
>>>
>> Her! <motioning head in *that* direction> The one who likes to wash
>> dishes and I was hoping did floors and toilets too.
>
> Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I
> detest a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as
> needed" basis. Often daily by one or both of us!
>
> I cannot STAND a dirty commode!
>
> I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
> ;-*
OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!! We are very fussy too.
Dee Dee
"Ophelia" <O...@nix.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5imejkF...@mid.individual.net...
> Omelet wrote:
>> Commodes are a "must do" job, not a pleasure. ;-) Both dad and I
>> detest a filthy bathroom, so the toilet gets scrubbed on an "as
>> needed" basis. Often daily by one or both of us!
>>
>> I cannot STAND a dirty commode!
>>
>> I'd rather squat behind a bush than use a filthy gas station restroom.
>> ;-*
>
> OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!! We are very fussy too.
I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a toilet
bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your toilets never get
dirty!
Forget it! Never mind!
Dee Dee
Ophelia
> I was going to ask you two about how to get a certain something off a
> toilet bowl, but I guess you all couldn't tell me because your
> toilets never get dirty!
> Forget it! Never mind!
> Dee Dee
Darling Dee Dee. Ask and if we can help we will!
Dee Dee
stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around and
under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills under
this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
grey.
Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.
Thanks.
Dee Dee
Sky
I'm no plumber . . . . <G> I hope there aren't lead pipes for your
water?! I should think that lead would leach into the water??? But,
that's not the issue here ;)
Anywho, try some CLR (short for Calcium, Lime, & Rust; easily found at
most Walgreens and other stores). I love that stuff! It works
wonders. You could probably put a bit of CLR in the tank, then flush
the toilet to get the CLR+water into the toilet bowl. Afterwards, use
that new brush you bought to scrub it around a bit on those stains. The
CLR has many useful applications.
Another trick I haven't tried yet is to use one of those "magic eraser"
sponges by Mr. Clean, which I _intend_ to try fairly soon. I think that
might work, but I'm not sure.
Sky, the reluctant procrastinating housekeeper
--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice
Dee Dee
"Sky" <skyh...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM> wrote in message
news:46C621...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM...
>> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is probably
>> stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water that is around
>> and
>> under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes where the water refills
>> under
>> this top ring, where it drains down into the bowl. Stainless steel dark
>> grey.
>> Dee Dee
>
> I'm no plumber . . . . <G> I hope there aren't lead pipes for your
> water?! I should think that lead would leach into the water??? But,
> that's not the issue here ;)
DH said we had no lead pipes.
> Anywho, try some CLR (short for Calcium, Lime, & Rust; easily found at
> most Walgreens and other stores). I love that stuff! It works
> wonders. You could probably put a bit of CLR in the tank, then flush
> the toilet to get the CLR+water into the toilet bowl. Afterwards, use
> that new brush you bought to scrub it around a bit on those stains. The
> CLR has many useful applications.
>
> Another trick I haven't tried yet is to use one of those "magic eraser"
> sponges by Mr. Clean, which I _intend_ to try fairly soon. I think that
> might work, but I'm not sure.
I'll look for both -- They're on my list.
>
> Sky, the reluctant procrastinating housekeeper
It's easy to be!
Thanks, Sky!
Ophelia
That is probably limescale Dee Dee. Nothing to be ashamed of:( You can buy
stuff for it but vinegar should make a difference
Dee Dee
>> OK, that dark ring that is around the top of the water that is
>> probably stained from the lead pipes or hard minerals in the water
>> that is around and under the top ring of the bowl, and the holes
>> where the water refills under this top ring, where it drains down
>> into the bowl. Stainless steel dark grey.
>> Pumice stone? Bleach? UGLY!
>> Hiding my head in shame. I just bought a lovely brush.
>> http://tinyurl.com/2cm8km
>>
>> But I know one always needs more elbow grease and chemicals.
>
> That is probably limescale Dee Dee. Nothing to be ashamed of:( You can
> buy stuff for it but vinegar should make a difference
I'll try vinegar first. I use vinegar for just about everything. I'm
allergic to myself almost. I'll try it before I bring in chemicals.
My favorite chemical? Vinegar. Thanks.
Dee Dee
T
deed...@shentel.net says...
Pickup some CLR and apply liberally. Then brush off what remains. It's
metallic content in most water that creates rust stains, and there is
some calcium in municipal water supplies among other things.
Dee Dee
"T" <nospa...@cox.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2130e6fc4...@news.east.cox.net...
> Pickup some CLR and apply liberally. Then brush off what remains. It's
> metallic content in most water that creates rust stains, and there is
> some calcium in municipal water supplies among other things.
We aren't on muni water, but we have a 500' drilled well. Our water is
harder than anyone's I've ever heard of. We spend a lot of money on salt,
then we reverse osmosis that, then we will be distilling some of the reverse
osmosis; IOW the water is so hard that we can't go from well water to
distillation.
The above is no matter to your answer, but just to explain. I just got back
from the big box hardware store and looked at CLR. I didn't get any mainly
because I don't want to put any down my septic system. I don't even like to
use bleach in the septic system. Nor even the 'green cleaner.' It even has
some sort of warning. But I think DH did use bleach and pumice stone at one
time (& elbow grease), but I'm going to try vinegar and the Magic Clean pad
(bought some at the store just a few minutes ago) a few times before I go to
the bleach and pumice stone.
Thanks for your concern.
Dee Dee
blake murphy
wrote:
i bought this stuff called 'the works' disinfectant toilet bowl
cleaner at the hardware store, and it works a treat, even if you're
not fastidious enough to clean every day. cleans the hard water ring,
too. and none of this 'leave it on for ten minutes' stuff as with the
other namby-pamby cleaners.
your pal,
mr. clean
Dee Dee
"blake murphy" <bla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:d1fec3dd9ftnsajt8...@4ax.com...
> i bought this stuff called 'the works' disinfectant toilet bowl
> cleaner at the hardware store, and it works a treat, even if you're
> not fastidious enough to clean every day. cleans the hard water ring,
> too. and none of this 'leave it on for ten minutes' stuff as with the
> other namby-pamby cleaners.
>
> your pal,
> mr. clean
Thanks. I'll look for it.
Dee Dee
T
deed...@shentel.net says...
You've just explained everything. You've probably got iron oxide,
nickle, calcium, and a whole bunch of things coming out of that well.
Omelet
"Dee Dee" <deed...@shentel.net> wrote:
<lol> Even with frequent cleanings, hard water rings can be an issue.
They stain too. I still get some hard water deposits at the top where
the water comes into the toilet bowl.
I turn off the water, bail the bowl and go after those with a little
diluted muriatic acid, gloves, good ventilation and a toilet brush.
The CLR suggestion further down in the thread is a workable solution
too, and probably a bit safer.
If you don't let that ring build up too thick, a pot scrubbie (dedicated
ONLY to that use!) works great and is fast.
ChattyCathy
>
> <lol> Even with frequent cleanings, hard water rings can be an issue.
> They stain too. I still get some hard water deposits at the top where
> the water comes into the toilet bowl.
You gotta love thread drift - from self-cleaning stoves to toilet
bowls... ;)
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible
ChattyCathy
>
> I'll try vinegar first. I use vinegar for just about everything. I'm
> allergic to myself almost. I'll try it before I bring in chemicals.
>
> My favorite chemical? Vinegar. Thanks.
I'm with you on this one, Dee. We have well water too and the limescale
build up can be a nuisance. Some "el cheapo" white vinegar works wonders.
Nancy Young
"ChattyCathy" <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote
> Omelet wrote:
>>
>> <lol> Even with frequent cleanings, hard water rings can be an issue.
>> They stain too. I still get some hard water deposits at the top where
>> the water comes into the toilet bowl.
>
> You gotta love thread drift - from self-cleaning stoves to toilet
> bowls... ;)
Cradle to grave, as it were.
nancy
ChattyCathy
>
> "ChattyCathy" <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote
>>
>> You gotta love thread drift - from self-cleaning stoves to toilet
>> bowls... ;)
>
> Cradle to grave, as it were.
<lol> Something like that, yes.
blake murphy
wrote:
>
i just looked at the label, and it says it will not harm septic
systems. it's 20% hydrogen chloride and 80% inert ingredients, for
you chemists out there.
your pal,
blake
Dee Dee
Thanks, blake, I looked for it, too, but didn't find it; you're a pal.
Dee Dee
Omelet
ChattyCathy <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > <lol> Even with frequent cleanings, hard water rings can be an issue.
> > They stain too. I still get some hard water deposits at the top where
> > the water comes into the toilet bowl.
>
> You gotta love thread drift - from self-cleaning stoves to toilet
> bowls... ;)
ROFL!!!
The subject of thread drift might make a good survey!
Sometimes I make an effort to change the subject line, sometimes I
don't...
Omelet
ChattyCathy <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Dee Dee wrote:
>
> >
> > I'll try vinegar first. I use vinegar for just about everything. I'm
> > allergic to myself almost. I'll try it before I bring in chemicals.
> >
> > My favorite chemical? Vinegar. Thanks.
>
> I'm with you on this one, Dee. We have well water too and the limescale
> build up can be a nuisance. Some "el cheapo" white vinegar works wonders.
I use a lot of vinegar to clean floors.
It's also one thing that will totally neutralize tomcat spray.