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paschal  
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From: paschal <pasc...@wam.umd.edu>
Date: 1999/05/22
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

On Sun, 23 May 1999, Alan Boles wrote:
> Just sprinkle tortilla with favorite seasonings cut into shapes you
> like and bake untill dried...

WHAT tortilla?  How can I make my own tortilla chips, like the ones that
we get from the really-authentic-mexican-restaurant, that are never too
salty or oily, and always crispy?

Jeez,

-P., ignorant...


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From: "Nancita" <borni...@sundial.net>
Date: 1999/05/22
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?
Last December I went to Honduras to visit and meet my husbands family.  I
was taught how to make tortillas by hand and cooked over a wood fire.  My
husband's mother and sisters laughed at mine as they were usually misshapen
and too thick in places.  I must admit that they looked pretty goofy but
they did taste much better than any tortilla I've ever eaten here in the
U.S.
Nancita

J Durbin <sloth...@poisson.com> wrote in message

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From: paschal <pasc...@wam.umd.edu>
Date: 1999/05/22
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

You have NO IDEA how much patience I have, especially when it comes
to learning new things.

Anyway:

Thanks for everyone's advice and support.

I'll inform you as to the results, when they happen.

Best Wishes,
-P.


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Date: 1999/05/23
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Just sprinkle tortilla with favorite seasonings cut into shapes you
like and bake untill dried...

paschal <pasc...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 22 May 1999, maryf wrote:

> > PENMART10 wrote:

> > > Important:  check your breasts daily for avocado fat

engorgement, and for signs


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Date: 1999/05/23
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.990522200539.6768B-100...@rac8.wam.umd.edu>, paschal

<pasc...@wam.umd.edu> writes:

>Anyway:  I love guacamole. I think that, made correctly, it must be one of
>the foods of the gods. I'd love it if people would post their favorite
>guac recipes - I'd post mine, but I haven't been able to perfect it yet;
>because of my terrible blender, it always turns out too acidic, because I
>put extra lemon juice in to make the damn blender work right.

All you need to do is ask- here is my favorite Guacamole
2 avocados ( haas preferred)  press and if soft, then they are ready
lime
cloveof chopped garlic
1 fresh tomato diced
1red onion  diced
1 fresh jalapeno , minced
1/2 teaspoon coarse salt
3 to 4 Tablespoons chopped cilantro ( chopped coarsely )
Chop the avocado, using two knives, or use your fingers to squeeze and you will
have a nice mix of chunks and smoothness. Squeeze the lime over, and carefully
fold it in. Add rest of ingredients and carefully mix together, serve with
chips etc.

Rosie


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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

In article <374741B7.5...@earthlink.net>, maryf <ma...@earthlink.net> writes:
>PENMART10 wrote:

>> Important:  check your breasts daily for avocado fat engorgement, and for
>signs
>> of greenish tinge, especially about the nipples... massage breasts daily
>with
>> cut surface of lemons to prevent oxidation -- Dr. Puckerlipski.  :-(())

>Don't massage yourself, have your SO do it ;-).  Much more fun that way

>--
>Mary f.

Hehe, and just who'd ya think is Dr. Pukerlipski? ;)

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"I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out."


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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

paschal <pasc...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 23 May 1999, Alan Boles wrote:

>> Just sprinkle tortilla with favorite seasonings cut into shapes you
>> like and bake untill dried...

>WHAT tortilla?  How can I make my own tortilla chips, like the ones that
>we get from the really-authentic-mexican-restaurant, that are never too
>salty or oily, and always crispy?

You can't. You don't have the patience.

Those that do use stale store-bought tortillas fried in vegetable oil
using standard frying techniques. A little practice produces a product
better than that found in most restaurants.


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Date: 1999/05/23
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.990522205243.6768D-100...@rac8.wam.umd.edu>, paschal

<pasc...@wam.umd.edu> writes:
>On Sun, 23 May 1999, Alan Boles wrote:

>> Just sprinkle tortilla with favorite seasonings cut into shapes you
>> like and bake untill dried...

>WHAT tortilla?  How can I make my own tortilla chips, like the ones that
>we get from the really-authentic-mexican-restaurant, that are never too
>salty or oily, and always crispy?

>Jeez,

>-P., ignorant...

There's nothing "really-authentic-Mexican" about tortilla chips per se,
actually those Dorito style thingies are Gringo chips... only the tortillas are
Mexican.  Anyhoo, slice up a big stack of store-bought fresh corn tortillas
into wedges and deep fry in corn oil until just crispy - not browned - then
immedately upon removal from hot oil drain and place on absorbant toweling,
then while still hot season per your taste.  I prefer to pan-fry whole
tortillas and then break them into manageable pieces by hand - now that's
authentic - that's how you'll find them throughout all of Central America where
the gringo touristas don't go.  Whole fried tortillas eaten spread with mashed
refried beans, diced tomatillo, fiery hot diced peppers, diced onion, and a bit
of grated mild white cheese, they're called 'garnachas', no guacamole.

Sheldon
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"I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out."


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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

Good. I hoped a little impatient goading would cause you to experiment
and find out how easy making better-than-restaurant tortilla chips
really is. Enjoy.

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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

On Sun, 23 May 1999, J Durbin wrote:
> Good. I hoped a little impatient goading would cause you to experiment
> and find out how easy making better-than-restaurant tortilla chips
> really is. Enjoy.

Well, it confused me because the couple of times I've purchased tortillas,
they've seemed too thick to make restaurant-style chips out of.

Next, I'll get you to direct me to a make-your-own tortilla recipe :-)

-P.


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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

Dareus O. Conover wrote in message <7i50ts$6r...@netnews.upenn.edu>...
>  finally, the 'bad' effects of 'fat' consumption are hardly self-evident,
>and have not been proven scientifically. long-term studies have shown that
>fat consumption as high as 40% of dietary intake has little, if any,
>effect on actual body fat. we assume fat = bad mostly because fats are a
>high density food source, but also because we want to eat 'heart'
>healthy--something about the creaminess of a glass of whole milk is
>somehow un-wholesome and definitely very decadent. in fact, fats are vital
>for 'healthiness' and artificial substitutes like margarine (high in
>'trans' fats) actually do nasty things like raise LDL levels (higher than
>butter actually would).

Agree, not to try to cut out fat altogether but I was medically told to
reduce weight. But being rather "ancient" could not pump iron only light
exercise. I enjoy my food, but only cut out the luxury fats, like biscuits,
cakes, ice cream, crisps, butter and most takeaways.

This produced some surprising results. A reduction of 2.5 stone (35lbs) in
about 3 months with very little effort. And feel much better for it. Still
eat red meat & most other foods.

Ken


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From: sloth...@poisson.com (J Durbin)
Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

paschal <pasc...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 23 May 1999, J Durbin wrote:

>> Good. I hoped a little impatient goading would cause you to experiment
>> and find out how easy making better-than-restaurant tortilla chips
>> really is. Enjoy.

>Well, it confused me because the couple of times I've purchased tortillas,
>they've seemed too thick to make restaurant-style chips out of.

I may be spoiled by the variety of tortillas we have to choose from
here on the west coast that may not be available where you are. I can
usually find good chip-quality tortillas. White corn tortillas seem
thinner though less flavorful.

>Next, I'll get you to direct me to a make-your-own tortilla recipe :-)

If you can find a package of masa harina, it will have instructions. I
notice that Macy's is also selling tortilla presses now. I suspect
other department store are as well.

However, I think you'll find that the store-bought are more suitable
for frying into chips.


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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

Why, Thank You! you droning dizzy-eyed dewberry.  I actually saved
this post of yours - there were no profane allusions in it!!! (least,
as far as I could tell...)

-P.

On 23 May 1999, PENMART10 wrote:


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Date: 1999/05/23
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

On 24 May 1999, PENMART10 wrote:

> In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.990523193350.1963A-100...@rac2.wam.umd.edu>, paschal
> <pasc...@wam.umd.edu> writes:

> >Why, Thank You! you droning dizzy-eyed dewberry.  I actually saved
> >this post of yours - there were no profane allusions in it!!! (least,
> >as far as I could tell...)
> >-PRICK

Gosh, you must be projecting; I don't have one of ....those....

-P.


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Date: 1999/05/23
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paschal wrote:
> On 24 May 1999, PENMART10 wrote:

> > >-PRICK

> Gosh, you must be projecting; I don't have one of ....those....

> -P.

That's not projection, that's wishful thinking.

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Date: 1999/05/24
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.990523193350.1963A-100...@rac2.wam.umd.edu>, paschal

<pasc...@wam.umd.edu> writes:
>Why, Thank You! you droning dizzy-eyed dewberry.  I actually saved
>this post of yours - there were no profane allusions in it!!! (least,
>as far as I could tell...)

>-PRICK

YOU!  <G>

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Young wrote:
> Michael Edelman wrote:

> ...
> > But health food they ain't.

> Are you certain about that?  I'm not saying they aren't high in fat,
> but I have read that they contain a kind of fat that is actually
> good for you.

And what kind of fat might that be...?

> Also (I'm on very shaky ground here), I'm sure I read somewhere that
> the reason you should not have small children on lowfat diets is because
> the brain is either (I'm going to get yelled at, I just know it) helped
> to develop by fat, or actually IS fat.

Mostly true. Myelin, the substance that insulates and supports nerves- the white
mattter of the brain as opposed to the grey matter- is cholesterol. But once
myelinazation is complete extra fat is not needed, and can be harmful.

> I don't think that a fat free
> diet is good for you.  I think there's some truth to what I've said,
> because I've had friends who've dieted to where they are very thin
> (maintenance thin, not natural thin) and their personality changed to
> the point where people would comment upon it.  Humorless and nasty.

You've got a lot of semi-correct and confused notions.

You can be thin and unhealthy. You can be underweight and still have too much body
fat. The personality changes you note probably have nothing to do with body fat
percentage, but more to do with the unnatural way these people lost weight. Intense
dieting alone without excercise is unhealthy.

-- mike


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Hazel wrote:
> ...Peel & stone avocado...

I tried that, but they wouldn't inhale.

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Michael Edelman wrote:

> Young wrote:

> > Michael Edelman wrote:
> > > But health food they ain't.

> > Are you certain about that?  I'm not saying they aren't high in fat,
> > but I have read that they contain a kind of fat that is actually
> > good for you.

> And what kind of fat might that be...?

I'm lazy.  I read a LOT but I find the concept to be the interesting
part.  I skim past the part where they call things l-slkfjasdfkljsdfld
glipids.  Those of you with a strong science bent are more than willing
to think that's stupid.      

> > Also (I'm on very shaky ground here), I'm sure I read somewhere that
> > the reason you should not have small children on lowfat diets is because
> > the brain is either (I'm going to get yelled at, I just know it) helped
> > to develop by fat, or actually IS fat.

> Mostly true. Myelin, the substance that insulates and supports nerves- the white
> mattter of the brain as opposed to the grey matter- is cholesterol. But once
> myelinazation is complete extra fat is not needed, and can be harmful.

I think you missed what I tried to get across.  You said, avocados
are high in fat; I was making the point that having a part of your
diet that is high in fat is not a bad thing.  Let me put it this way,
olive oil is ALL fat, right?  Or damned close.  (I have to qualify
everything I say, or you will call me on it)  Yet, you will include
it in your cooking.  I'm saying, avocados are high in fat, but that
doesn't make it an unhealthy food.

More to the point; you said avocados are not a health food and I say
they most certainly are.  It's just not what you want to limit your
diet to.  This sort of reminds me of some moron that tore into Consumer
Reports because they rated lowfat salad dressing.  He was outraged that
they called them lowfat when they were over 30 percent fat.  I thought,
you dipshit, it's an ingredient, part of your diet, of course if all
you eat all day is salad dressing, then yeah, you have more problems
than your fat intake.  Sounds to me like that guy could have used an
avocado, if you get my drift.  

> > I don't think that a fat free
> > diet is good for you.  I think there's some truth to what I've said,
> > because I've had friends who've dieted to where they are very thin
> > (maintenance thin, not natural thin) and their personality changed to
> > the point where people would comment upon it.  Humorless and nasty.

> You've got a lot of semi-correct and confused notions.
> You can be thin and unhealthy. You can be underweight and still have too much body
> fat.

Where did I say that this wasn't true?  I never thought that for a
moment.  I also think you can be overweight and healthy.  

> The personality changes you note probably have nothing to do with body fat
> percentage, but more to do with the unnatural way these people lost weight. Intense
> dieting alone without excercise is unhealthy.

I was pointing out that INTENSE DIETING (translation: NO FAT) was
affecting their brain.  I submit to you that INTENSE DIETING, even
with exercise is unhealthy.  How do you like them apples?

nancy


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Date: 1999/05/26
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?

PENMART10 wrote in message <19990520172453.08345.00003...@ngol02.aol.com>...
>In article <7i1sgs$g8...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Joyce"
><jo...@thumper88.freeserve.co.uk> writes:

>>Saw an article in the paper yesterday which said that avocados are good
for
>>a healthy diet. Apparently they reduce cholesterol and are low in fat.

>Low in fat compared to what... whales?

Compared to most other foods. It is high in fat compared to other fruit
though. But saturated fats account for only 4g per 100g and anything less
than 10g is low fat.

It's getting some give in it, should be ready to eat tommorow. Thanks for
all the suggestions.

Joyce


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I like to open the ripe avocado lengthwise as well,but like to fill the
cavity with Viva Italian salad dressing and eat it with a spoon.

"Which way should i jump?"                         GF


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Date: 1999/05/30
Subject: Re: Avocado - when to eat & how?
I'm just getting over a pathological hatred of
avocados after spending a few months in west
Africa - they were the only decent food (in fact
the ONLY food) in a lot of the markets there -
there's only just so many things you can do with
an avocado, at least things you can discuss here.

I thought avocados had one of the highest fat
contents in the vegetable/fruit category?

Rich

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> "Joyce" <jo...@thumper88.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >Saw an article in the paper yesterday which

said that avocados are good for
> >a healthy diet. Apparently they reduce

cholesterol and are low in fat. So I
> >thought I might try one, but I'm not sure what
to do with it.

> >I remember once having avocado with prawns as a

starter in a restaurant, but
> >when I bought one and tried it, the thing was

hard to eat and tasteless.
> >I've heard somewhere that they are not ready to

eat when you buy one. How
> >long after buying it is it ready to eat? How
can you tell?

> >What can I eat my avocado with? The only

accompaniments I know are prawns
> >and in an avocado & bacon sandwich

> >TIA

> >Joyce

> Geesh.  Doesn't anyone else hate avocados?

Thanks to Sheldon, I can't
> even say that they have cholesterol anymore.  (I
always thought that
> they did).

> Guacamole:

> One ripe avocado.
> 2 tbsp fresh lime juice.
> optional salt or even optional pepper.

> mash with a fork.  add lime juice and stir.

> Heavenly.  And almost as close to pure avocado

as you can get without
> discoloration!

> Avocado can be added to most any salsa and to a

variety of salads to
> add that wonderful cool, creamy texture.  You

can layer pizza with
> avocado.  I like having small chunks of avocado

in a bow with another
> bowl with chile flavored nuts and a fine brew

(suds, guys and gals).


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