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OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 2:21:34 PM3/17/06
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With the vent fan behind the kitchen sink, I have no trouble peeling and
slicing/chopping onions at all. The fan pulls all the fumes away.

But peeling and slicing Shallots hurts my eyes every time! Seems they
have stronger fumes than onions?

Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
best trick to just blow the fumes away.

Anyone else have this problem with shallots?

It's been a good 20 minutes since I did 5 of the darned things and my
eyes STILL hurt! :-P

I hate to give them up due to this. Dad and I really enjoy them in
recipes.
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Skyhooks

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Mar 17, 2006, 2:33:05 PM3/17/06
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> With the vent fan behind the kitchen sink, I have no trouble peeling and
> slicing/chopping onions at all. The fan pulls all the fumes away.
>
> But peeling and slicing Shallots hurts my eyes every time! Seems they
> have stronger fumes than onions?
>
> Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
> best trick to just blow the fumes away.
>
> Anyone else have this problem with shallots?
>
> It's been a good 20 minutes since I did 5 of the darned things and my
> eyes STILL hurt! :-P
>
> I hate to give them up due to this. Dad and I really enjoy them in
> recipes.
> --
> Peace, Om.


This may or may not work, but try breathing through your mouth (not the
nose) while working with the shallots? Another trick might be to wear
safety goggles (?).

Skyhooks
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""ddoott""
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Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:04:24 PM3/17/06
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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> With the vent fan behind the kitchen sink, I have no trouble peeling and
> slicing/chopping onions at all. The fan pulls all the fumes away.
>
> But peeling and slicing Shallots hurts my eyes every time! Seems they
> have stronger fumes than onions?
>
> Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
> best trick to just blow the fumes away.
>
> Anyone else have this problem with shallots?
>
> It's been a good 20 minutes since I did 5 of the darned things and my
> eyes STILL hurt! :-P
>
> I hate to give them up due to this. Dad and I really enjoy them in
> recipes.


Rumor has it that putting onions or shallots in a bowl of ice water before
chopping them will help reduce the fumes.


salgud

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:16:52 PM3/17/06
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Interesting! I've never had a problem with shallots. Onions, yes! And I
read somewhere to burn a candle while I chop them, which really helps.
It would probably work with shallots. Give it a try and let me know.
Just put the candle next to the cutting board while you chop away!

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:41:19 PM3/17/06
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In article <441B0E...@anywhere.com>,
Skyhooks <whoc...@anywhere.com> wrote:

Mm, the goggles are the best idea yet.

I also have a real gas mask. <G> I use it for cleaning the bathroom when
I'm using Muriatic acid for lime deposits. ;-) Sounds silly I know, but
it's easier than paying an ER bill.

I'll have to dig out my scuba mask. It's comfortable and covers eyes and
nose.

Cool idea!

Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:48:05 PM3/17/06
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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> I also have a real gas mask. <G> I use it for cleaning the bathroom when
> I'm using Muriatic acid for lime deposits. ;-) Sounds silly I know, but
> it's easier than paying an ER bill.

Muriatic acid? Where the hell do you live? Or, more to the point, how many
decades do you wait between cleanings?


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:57:12 PM3/17/06
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In article <woESf.3032$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Might try that, thanks!
I have zero trouble with onions even if I'm doing several.
For some reason, the shallots start hitting my eyes shortly after I
start peeling them.

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:58:46 PM3/17/06
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In article <1142626612.7...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"salgud" <dav...@safebrowse.com> wrote:

Hm, that I can do. :-)
I always have candles around for power outages.

I know I'll be using more shallots tomorrow to re-cook some pork hock
meat with shitakes...

I'll let you know, thanks!

sarah bennett

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:02:07 PM3/17/06
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I find that not cutting off the root end until the very end helps, too.

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Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:07:26 PM3/17/06
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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Are you sure you don't have onions and shallots confused? :-)


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:07:57 PM3/17/06
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In article <pbFSf.3036$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

South central Texas.
ALL of our water comes from underground limestone caverns. The water is
as hard as it gets.

I am lazy... Muriatic Acid cleans faster than scrubbing, or Acetic acid.
And the mask was cheap as I bought it BEFORE 9-11 when the prices on
those items quintupled.

It's common around here. Every spring, we get folks into our emergency
room that made the mistake of not rinsing well between using Muriatic
acid, followed by bleach to get the mildew. :-(

Deadly, deadly gas production. Mustard gas.

Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:10:59 PM3/17/06
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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Darwin's theories at work. Do these people survive to make more babies?


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:10:58 PM3/17/06
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In article <jtFSf.2389$tN3....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
sarah bennett <anis...@sbeeceeglobal.net> wrote:

> I find that not cutting off the root end until the very end helps, too.
>
> --
>
> saerah

Mm, but I usually start peeling at that end since it's larger. ;-)

I'll have to re-asses my technique.

Thanks for the tip!

~patches~

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:17:29 PM3/17/06
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> With the vent fan behind the kitchen sink, I have no trouble peeling and
> slicing/chopping onions at all. The fan pulls all the fumes away.
>
> But peeling and slicing Shallots hurts my eyes every time! Seems they
> have stronger fumes than onions?
>
> Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
> best trick to just blow the fumes away.
>
> Anyone else have this problem with shallots?
>
> It's been a good 20 minutes since I did 5 of the darned things and my
> eyes STILL hurt! :-P
>
> I hate to give them up due to this. Dad and I really enjoy them in
> recipes.

Ok, not sure if this will work but somewhere along the line I got the
tip to peel onions under water to avoid eye pain. It works so maybe it
would work for shallots. Shallots don't hurt my eyes as much as onions
and since we use onions almost on a daily basis...

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:28:14 PM3/17/06
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In article <ksFSf.3038$kg...@news02.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Bite me babycakes! :-P

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:31:30 PM3/17/06
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In article <DBFSf.286$tT....@news01.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Usually...

Cut them some slack.
They are the uneducated and have never had chemistry classes...

Ignorance is NOT bliss!

And warnings about mixing bleach, acid, ammonia and detergents are not
printed on all labels.

None of those 4 should EVER be mixed with one of the others, but all are
common cleaners.

Ammonia and bleach is a very, very bad mix too and probably even more
common.

Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:34:21 PM3/17/06
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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>> Darwin's theories at work. Do these people survive to make more babies?
>>
>>
>
> Usually...
>
> Cut them some slack.
> They are the uneducated and have never had chemistry classes...
>
> Ignorance is NOT bliss!
>
> And warnings about mixing bleach, acid, ammonia and detergents are not
> printed on all labels.

Duh. They may not say "don't mix with specific things", but they all say
"Don't mix with anything else".


~patches~

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:41:16 PM3/17/06
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:


IRC a very old show where ammonia or was it bleach, I think it was
bleach, spilled onto a bag of sugar and the driver of the car was
overwhelmed with the fumes.

I once cleaned my floors with ammonia, actually my favourite cleaner.
The floors look gorgeous but the multituce of plants turned from green
to turquoise and blue. That was my first indication that this might not
be something I should be breathing. The plants ended up dying too. I
use it very sparingly in well ventilated conditions and about once a
year. I can't use bleach at all under any circumstances. Now a-days, I
go for really natural cleansers like vinegar, baking soda, and elbow
grease ;)

Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:44:36 PM3/17/06
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"~patches~" <noone...@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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Hey...any time we hear about a the derailment of a train tank car full of
ammonia, they usually evacuate entire towns downwind.


Doug Kanter

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Mar 17, 2006, 4:54:11 PM3/17/06
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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You're not woman enough. Heh. :)


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:00:33 PM3/17/06
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In article <121m9rf...@corp.supernews.com>,
~patches~ <noone...@thisaddress.com> wrote:

I'd seen that tip too and could peel them under water, but how am I
supposed to slice them under water? :-)

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:01:56 PM3/17/06
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In article <xXFSf.291$tT....@news01.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

And how many people read the damned labels....... ;-)

And how many hispanics read English?

This is Texas.

Doug Kanter

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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Oh please...you don't peel them under water. You chill them for 10 minutes
or so. Try and keep up, OK?


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:09:55 PM3/17/06
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In article <121mb83...@corp.supernews.com>,
~patches~ <noone...@thisaddress.com> wrote:

> > Ammonia and bleach is a very, very bad mix too and probably even more
> > common.
>
>
> IRC a very old show where ammonia or was it bleach, I think it was
> bleach, spilled onto a bag of sugar and the driver of the car was
> overwhelmed with the fumes.
>
> I once cleaned my floors with ammonia, actually my favourite cleaner.
> The floors look gorgeous but the multituce of plants turned from green
> to turquoise and blue. That was my first indication that this might not
> be something I should be breathing. The plants ended up dying too.

I'm surprised you were able to breathe! I made the mistake of trying to
clean a floor with Ammonia too without good ventilation...

I had to chase all the pets into another room, close the door and open
the front and back doors and run a fan to drive out the fumes, all while
being barely able to breathe. :-( I only made that mistake once!

Now I have a mop bucket and use 2 gallons of strong vinegar, 2 gallons
of water and 1/2 of a bottle of floor cleaner concentrate such as Lysol
or Mr. Clean without bleach.

Works a treat and is a great, safe deoderant.
I use that for mopping floors weekly. No carpet, nor do I ever intend to
own any again. <g>

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:10:42 PM3/17/06
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In article <85GSf.296$tT...@news01.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

After having tried that stuff once, never, ever again!

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:11:26 PM3/17/06
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In article <RXFSf.3043$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Wanna bet? <smirk>

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:15:18 PM3/17/06
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In article <qqGSf.301$tT....@news01.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Oh please...you don't peel them under water. You chill them for 10 minutes
> or so. Try and keep up, OK?

I'm peeling and slicing these right out of the 'frige where I store them
at 40 degrees.

Does not do a damned bit of good.

Blair P. Houghton

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Mar 17, 2006, 5:18:18 PM3/17/06
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
> best trick to just blow the fumes away.

Yep. I have a heating vent behind my head at the cutting board, and
I'll turn the fan on when I expect the onions to get me.

I haven't noticed shallots to be a problem; maybe you've been unlucky
and got squirted directly.

--Blair

Doug Kanter

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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> In article <RXFSf.3043$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> >> Are you sure you don't have onions and shallots confused? :-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Bite me babycakes! :-P
>>
>> You're not woman enough. Heh. :)
>>
>>
>
> Wanna bet? <smirk>

12 months pay, and you have to wax my car with a q-tip. Twice.


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 17, 2006, 10:19:43 PM3/17/06
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In article <aIGSf.3047$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> news:Omelet-CCA77A....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> > In article <RXFSf.3043$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >> Are you sure you don't have onions and shallots confused? :-)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Bite me babycakes! :-P
> >>
> >> You're not woman enough. Heh. :)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Wanna bet? <smirk>
>
> 12 months pay, and you have to wax my car with a q-tip. Twice.
>
>

And I get what for that? ;-)

cathyxyz

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Mar 18, 2006, 2:27:47 AM3/18/06
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> With the vent fan behind the kitchen sink, I have no trouble peeling and
> slicing/chopping onions at all. The fan pulls all the fumes away.
>
> But peeling and slicing Shallots hurts my eyes every time! Seems they
> have stronger fumes than onions?
>
> Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
> best trick to just blow the fumes away.
>
> Anyone else have this problem with shallots?
>
> It's been a good 20 minutes since I did 5 of the darned things and my
> eyes STILL hurt! :-P
>
> I hate to give them up due to this. Dad and I really enjoy them in
> recipes.

Wish I could be of more help, Om. I wear contact lenses and always get
delegated to chop onions etc. in this house. They seem to keep the fumes
out of my eyes. ;) I think someone already suggested goggles?

Cheers
Cathy(xyz)

dee

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Mar 18, 2006, 4:06:28 AM3/18/06
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> With the vent fan behind the kitchen sink, I have no trouble peeling and
> slicing/chopping onions at all. The fan pulls all the fumes away.
>
> But peeling and slicing Shallots hurts my eyes every time! Seems they
> have stronger fumes than onions?
>
> Considering getting a small fan for the kitchen counter. Seems to be the
> best trick to just blow the fumes away.
>
> Anyone else have this problem with shallots?
>
> It's been a good 20 minutes since I did 5 of the darned things and my
> eyes STILL hurt! :-P
>
> I hate to give them up due to this. Dad and I really enjoy them in
> recipes.
> --
> Peace, Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

oo practice cutting by ear like those Kung Fu Masters hehe.. or wear
swimming googles :)

OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 18, 2006, 10:20:13 AM3/18/06
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In article <ZDOSf.37983$Vi2....@newsfe18.lga>,
cathyxyz <cath...@mailinator.com> wrote:

Yep... :-)

Doug Kanter

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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> In article <aIGSf.3047$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
>> news:Omelet-CCA77A....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
>> > In article <RXFSf.3043$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
>> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> >> Are you sure you don't have onions and shallots confused? :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Bite me babycakes! :-P
>> >>
>> >> You're not woman enough. Heh. :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Wanna bet? <smirk>
>>
>> 12 months pay, and you have to wax my car with a q-tip. Twice.
>>
>>
>
> And I get what for that? ;-)

You get to prove you can handle me. :-)


OmManiPadmeOmelet

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Mar 18, 2006, 3:17:40 PM3/18/06
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In article <cEVSf.355$tT....@news01.roc.ny>,
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> news:Omelet-096C34....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> > In article <aIGSf.3047$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Omelet-CCA77A....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> >> > In article <RXFSf.3043$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> >> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >> Are you sure you don't have onions and shallots confused? :-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bite me babycakes! :-P
> >> >>
> >> >> You're not woman enough. Heh. :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Wanna bet? <smirk>
> >>
> >> 12 months pay, and you have to wax my car with a q-tip. Twice.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > And I get what for that? ;-)
>
> You get to prove you can handle me. :-)
>
>

Depends on how big your "handle" is.....

Doug Kanter

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<drum crash!> Is this an audience or an oil painting? - Henny Youngman


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> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> news:Omelet-951362....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> > In article <cEVSf.355$tT....@news01.roc.ny>,
> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Omelet-096C34....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> >> > In article <aIGSf.3047$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> >> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Ome...@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:Omelet-CCA77A....@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> >> >> > In article <RXFSf.3043$kg....@news02.roc.ny>,
> >> >> > "Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Are you sure you don't have onions and shallots confused? :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Bite me babycakes! :-P
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You're not woman enough. Heh. :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Wanna bet? <smirk>
> >> >>
> >> >> 12 months pay, and you have to wax my car with a q-tip. Twice.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > And I get what for that? ;-)
> >>
> >> You get to prove you can handle me. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Depends on how big your "handle" is.....
>
> <drum crash!> Is this an audience or an oil painting? - Henny Youngman
>
>

ROFL!!!!!!!

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