try this

[Dimitri]

coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
water bout 20%
orange juice bout 60%

add crushed ice
blend or not

Dimitri

[Cheryl]

Sounds yuckie.

[jmcquown]

On 2/25/2013 6:35 PM, Dimitri wrote:

May I ask why?

Jill

[Chemo]

Sorry, but you may not ask why.

[notbob]

On 2013-02-26, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>> water bout 20%
>> orange juice bout 60%
>>
>> add crushed ice
>> blend or not

> May I ask why?

Looks like an Orange Julius. I need to try and replicate those. I
loved 'em.

nb

[merryb]

On Feb 25, 4:40 pm, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:

> On 2013-02-26, jmcquown <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
> >> water bout 20%
> >> orange juice  bout 60%
>
> >> add crushed ice
> >> blend or not
> > May I ask why?
>
> Looks like an Orange Julius.  I need to try and replicate those.  I
> loved 'em.
>
> nb

Here you go!
1/3 cup orange juice concentrate
1/4 cup sugar
1/2 cup milk
1/2 tsp vanilla
8-10 ice cubes
Blend well and enjoy!

[Cheri]

"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
news:slrnkio0ul...@nbleet.hcc.net...

I used to make this recipe a lot. I really like it, it comes very close to
the original IMO.


Orange Julius (from Top Secret Recipe book)

1 cup Orange Juice
1 cup water
2 egg whites
3/4 tsp vanilla extract
1/4 granulated sugar
1 heaping cup ice

Combine all ingredients in blender set on high speed for exactly one minute.

Makes 2 drinks

[sf]

Don't you mean "Denied"?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

[dsi1]

You should try experimenting with the non-dairy creamer and some
meringue powder with orange juice. It's kind of a weird blend. I would
have no problem with leaving out the meringue powder but I'm not a big
fan anyway. The restaurant next door serves a knockoff called "Orange
Bang" - it's a goofy name for a drink.

[merryb]

I'm unsure why egg white is necessary in this?

[sf]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:08:04 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> The restaurant next door serves a knockoff called "Orange
> Bang" - it's a goofy name for a drink.

I used to buy from Orange Julius back in the days when they didn't use
powdered anything and you could see them put the ingredients in the
blender, they used orange juice, a whole egg and cream. Whiz it up in
the blender with some ice and serve.

[sf]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:09:50 -0800 (PST), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
wrote:

For froth.

[Janet Bostwick]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:35:53 -0800, "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net>
wrote:

a short cut to an Orange Julius? Thanks for the tip.
Janet US

[Janet Bostwick]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:09:50 -0800 (PST), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
wrote:

Aside from that it is in the real thing, it makes the drink frothy.
Janet US

[notbob]

On 2013-02-26, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
> 1/2 cup milk

Sorry. No milk.

nb

[notbob]

On 2013-02-26, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:

> I'm unsure why egg white is necessary in this?

I'm unsure why so many copycat recipes call for milk. O-Julius never
added milk, EVER! Jes OJ, ice, and a spoonfull of their secret
powder. Now, if that pwder included pwdr milk, so be it, but I'll not
add liquid milk. Nope, never, not gonna happen.y

nb

[jmcquown]

ISH! Sorry but it doesn't sound like anything I'd like to drink. If I
want orange juice I'll drink orange juice.

Jill

[dsi1]

As I recall, dehydrated egg whites are a key ingredient in this drink.
Perhaps it allows the mixture to retain air but that's just a guess. I
would go next door and refresh my memory but that stuff is a little too
sweet for even me.

[dsi1]

On 2/25/2013 3:21 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:08:04 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The restaurant next door serves a knockoff called "Orange
>> Bang" - it's a goofy name for a drink.
>
> I used to buy from Orange Julius back in the days when they didn't use
> powdered anything and you could see them put the ingredients in the
> blender, they used orange juice, a whole egg and cream. Whiz it up in
> the blender with some ice and serve.
>

Interesting - I've always seen them use secret powder material. Maybe
that's the way they did it way, way, way, back until they figured out
how to synthesize it.

[Julie Bove]

"Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:kggser$faq$1...@dont-email.me...

Are you making your own Orange Julius?

[sf]

You must be a latecomer to Orange Julius. They originally used cream,
no powders of any kind were involved.

[Julie Bove]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ap2jqe...@mid.individual.net...

I had a sip of an Orange Julius once and only once. I don't know why I
believed my parents when they told me how goooooooood it was. I didn't like
OJ to begin with.

[sf]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:25:07 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> As I recall, dehydrated egg whites are a key ingredient in this drink.

Where would I buy dehydrated egg whites - a specialty shop for making
and decorating cakes?

[Julie Bove]

"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message

news:slrnkio5to...@nbleet.hcc.net...

Odd how people can mistake egg for dairy. I always assumed that it had
milk. And I got into a huge argument with my mom about Avgolemeno soup.
She insisted there was cream in it. I knew that there wasn't because I had
made it from scratch. And I checked countless recipes. None had cream.
Only egg.

[sf]

Yeah. Way, way back. I got married in the early '70s and bought a
house a couple of years later. I know, for sure, that I was making
them that way in my own house and what I made tasted *exactly* like
what I got at Orange Julius. It was only a weekend treat for us (one
day, not two) and it didn't stop me from buying an Orange Julius if
the whim hit at the mall. I stopped all that after they powdered
everything. They used to crack the egg right in front of you. Now, I
just walk past the booth when I see one because I have no interest
what-so-ever in eating chemicals or dehydrated ingredients. To be
perfectly honest, I don't remember if they (or I) used the whole egg
or just the white - but it doesn't make any sense for a business to be
throwing money away, so my money is on the entire egg.

I haven't made it for a long time, it just fell out of fashion for
this house... and now we don't drink orange juice anymore because
hubby has to watch his blood glucose levels, but maybe I should try
making it again sometime - once with a whole egg and another with just
an egg white.

[sf]

You said she didn't cook and the soup is creamy looking.

[Bryan]

I shit you not, but there was this guy who got hired as a coworker, whose
names was, Julius. At his interview, he wore an orange shirt. I'm bad
at names, but it was easy to remember his name. He was Orange Julius.
>
> nb

--Bryan

[gloria p]

On 2/25/2013 4:35 PM, Dimitri wrote:
> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
> water bout 20%
> orange juice bout 60%
>
> add crushed ice
> blend or not
>

> Dimitri


Fake Orange Julius?

gloria p

[Dimitri]

"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message

news:slrnkio0ul...@nbleet.hcc.net...

> On 2013-02-26, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>>> water bout 20%
>>> orange juice bout 60%
>>>
>>> add crushed ice
>>> blend or not
>

>> May I ask why?
>
> Looks like an Orange Julius. I need to try and replicate those. I
> loved 'em.
>

> nb
BINGO YOU GET THE GOLD STAR FOR THE DAY

:-)

Dimitri

[Dimitri]

"gloria p" <gpue...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kghefp$p88$2...@dont-email.me...

[I'm back]

Cheryl <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:512bf7ba$0$30842$c3e8da3
$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:

> On 2/25/2013 6:35 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>
>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>> water bout 20%
>> orange juice bout 60%
>>
>> add crushed ice
>> blend or not
>>
>> Dimitri
>

> Sounds yuckie.
>
>


That would be "yucky".

A 'yuckie'......

Ageing parents face an average bill of more than �30,000 to bail out
their grown-up children because they do not have the cash to become
independent.

A generation of 18 to 30-year-old Yuckies - Young Unwitting Costly Kids
- is imposing a huge financial strain on their parents.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251582/30-000-
Yuckie-generation-afford-independent.html#ixzz2LyuWZH75



--
Peter
Brisbane
Australia

Success isn't so difficult.
Just bite off more than you can chew,
then go do it.

[Julie Bove]

"I'm back" <ba...@home.au> wrote in message
news:XnsA173AB22B4...@94.75.214.39...

> Cheryl <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:512bf7ba$0$30842$c3e8da3
> $40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
>
>> On 2/25/2013 6:35 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>
>>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>>> water bout 20%
>>> orange juice bout 60%
>>>
>>> add crushed ice
>>> blend or not
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>> Sounds yuckie.
>>
>>
>
>
> That would be "yucky".
>
> A 'yuckie'......
>
> Ageing parents face an average bill of more than �30,000 to bail out
> their grown-up children because they do not have the cash to become
> independent.
>
> A generation of 18 to 30-year-old Yuckies - Young Unwitting Costly Kids
> - is imposing a huge financial strain on their parents.
>
> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251582/30-000-
> Yuckie-generation-afford-independent.html#ixzz2LyuWZH75

That is true but... I don't know how things are where you're at, but here
it is super hard for this age of people to find a decent job. The people I
know who are of that age are either unemployed, either because they are
still in school, or are being far too picky about the types of jobs they are
willing to do. One says he won't work with food. He won't deal with the
public. He wants a very specific job and won't do any other. This annoys
the peewaddins out of me and also my daughter because we realize that there
are times in your life when some job, any job is better than no job at all.
I think his parents are feeling the same way because not only are they
supporting him but he does not live at home. Yes, he has his own home! No
comment on that but let's just say that won't be happening with my daughter!

Or as I mentioned above, they are working but are not really making enough
money to support themselves. Most have had to take a part time job and many
are working in retail. One that I know of had a really good job at least in
terms of pay but it was lots of physical work because it was at a factory.
But they did supply him with lunch and as much bottled water as he wanted
throughout the day. Sadly, he and his friend were let go. Not sure where
his friend is now employed but he is now working at a local variety store.
No guarantee of full time hours. No benefits. Low wages. Another (male)
is working at Victoria's Secret. He was working at a bakery and just lucked
into that job. The manager of the store knows him and likes him and just
offered him the job. That doesn't happen often. I don't know if they get
commission there or not but if they do, I imagine he is doing quite well.
His mom told me that men like to buy from him when buying gifts for the
women because they can feel embarrassed when buying from a woman. And the
females from the dance studio will seek him out when they go in there
because they know him. He really is a nice person.

I also saw something on TV about how it no longer necessarily pays off for
people to go to college. Yes, in some cases they can earn more with a
degree. But in many cases, these people could not find a job in their field
and they were forced to work at menial jobs. It's very sad.

[dsi1]

On 2/25/2013 5:03 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:25:07 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> As I recall, dehydrated egg whites are a key ingredient in this drink.
>
> Where would I buy dehydrated egg whites - a specialty shop for making
> and decorating cakes?
>

Meringue powder. It's super neat stuff!

[dsi1]

I can understand why it would fall out of fashion in anybody's house but
the next time I see an Orange Julius, I'll order one. I suspect it'll be
disappointing but then again, I didn't grow up drinking it.

My guess is that the Orange Julius powder is meringue powder, whey, and
sugar, plus anti-caking agents. Yummy!

[Janet]

In article <XnsA173AB22B4...@94.75.214.39>, ba...@home.au
says...
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251582/30-000-
> Yuckie-generation-afford-independent.html#ixzz2LyuWZH75
>

Readers of any Daily Mail report should always skip to the last para
and last line in the article.. that's where they insert any giveaway
true bits.

Last para

"'The families we questioned had just one message for parents whose
children are still young ,? save, save, save!

Last line

"The survey was conducted by The Children's Mutual, which specialises in
financial services and savings."

Janet UK

[jmcquown]

Hey, you already gave the gold star to notbob!

I've never tasted an Orange Julius and from the sound of it I really
don't want to.

Jill

[S Viemeister]

On 2/25/2013 10:03 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:25:07 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> As I recall, dehydrated egg whites are a key ingredient in this drink.
>
> Where would I buy dehydrated egg whites - a specialty shop for making
> and decorating cakes?
>

I think I've seen that in the King Arthur catalog.

[Bryan]

On Monday, February 25, 2013 5:35:53 PM UTC-6, Dimitri wrote:
>
> coffee mate vanilla

Who keeps shit like that in their house to begin with?
A rhetorical question.

I swear, the shit that some of you consider food.
>
> Dimitri

--Bryan

[Janet Bostwick]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:54:37 -0500, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes

>
>On 2/26/2013 7:13 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
>>>
>> I think I've seen that in the King Arthur catalog.
>

>It's also in a small canister on the baking aisle shelves in regular
>grocery stores.
>
>Susan

Really? I never pay any attention to what's up there. I just grab
what I need. I'll have to look next time. Thanks
Janet US

[Cheri]

"Janet Bostwick" <nos...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:i4mpi899vvsopf3kb...@4ax.com...

It's also in every cake decorating aisle in variety stores where you would
buy things like Wilton Products.

Cheri

[Nancy Young]

On 2/26/2013 5:32 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/25/2013 11:50 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> "gloria p" <gpue...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:kghefp$p88$2...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 2/25/2013 4:35 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>>>> water bout 20%
>>>> orange juice bout 60%
>>>>
>>>> add crushed ice
>>>> blend or not

>>> Fake Orange Julius?

>> BINGO YOU GET THE GOLD STAR FOR THE DAY
>>
>> :-)

> Hey, you already gave the gold star to notbob!
>
> I've never tasted an Orange Julius and from the sound of it I really
> don't want to.

My first thought was that it would taste like a Dreamcicle.

Which is delicious.

nancy

[sf]

I know where to buy meringue powder locally but it's a shop that
specializes in cake making and decorating supplies.

[sf]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:54:37 -0500, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> On 2/26/2013 7:13 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> >>

> > I think I've seen that in the King Arthur catalog.
>

> It's also in a small canister on the baking aisle shelves in regular
> grocery stores.
>

Thanks. I thought I'd scoured the shelves, but I guess not... will
ask specifically and get someone else find it for me.

[sf]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:07:26 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:

> Just Whites is the brand I buy.

Just Whites is dehydrated? I thought it was one of those liquid
products in the refrigerated section.

[James Silverton]

On 2/26/2013 12:33 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:07:26 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
>> Just Whites is the brand I buy.
>
> Just Whites is dehydrated? I thought it was one of those liquid
> products in the refrigerated section.
>

Yes, you can buy egg whites that are not dehydrated. I wonder if there
is any difference, apart from color, from things like "Egg Beaters" etc.?

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

[Dave Smith]

On 26/02/2013 11:56 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>>
>> I've never tasted an Orange Julius and from the sound of it I really
>> don't want to.
>
> My first thought was that it would taste like a Dreamcicle.
>
> Which is delicious.
>
>

I always thought they were delicious at the time I ate them but over the
years I developed an aversion to them. I don't know what it was about
artificial orange flavour and colour but it always reacted badly with my
innards. The other think I used to like was Jets, which were orange
sherbet bars with a chocolate dip coating.

[sf]

I never had one (or heard of it) until I moved to the big city as a
teenager and malls started sprouting up all over the place.

>
> My guess is that the Orange Julius powder is meringue powder, whey, and
> sugar, plus anti-caking agents. Yummy!

:(

[dsi1]

On 2/26/2013 8:09 AM, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>

> On 2/26/2013 12:37 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> Yes, you can buy egg whites that are not dehydrated. I wonder if there
>> is any difference, apart from color, from things like "Egg Beaters" etc.?
>>
>

> Egg Beaters are perishable and Just Whites is shelf stable.
>
> I think Just Whites is just that. Egg Beaters have stuff added to them.
>
> Susan

Egg Beaters is egg white and coloring to make the product look like
whole eggs. It's some pretty funky stuff.

[Nancy Young]

On 2/26/2013 12:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 26/02/2013 11:56 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> My first thought was that it would taste like a Dreamcicle.
>>
>> Which is delicious.

> I always thought they were delicious at the time I ate them but over the
> years I developed an aversion to them. I don't know what it was about
> artificial orange flavour and colour but it always reacted badly with my
> innards.

That's too bad. So annoying when stuff starts disagreeing with your
gut.

> The other think I used to like was Jets, which were orange
> sherbet bars with a chocolate dip coating.

I was always a chocolate/vanilla type, and sometimes you'd even
find the Good Humor guy with the bar that had the chocolate bar
in the middle.

But I'd be happy to have an orange sherbet/vanilla ice cream
concoction, too. I never tried the Jets.

nancy

[sf]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:09:26 -0500, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>

> On 2/26/2013 12:37 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can buy egg whites that are not dehydrated. I wonder if there
> > is any difference, apart from color, from things like "Egg Beaters" etc.?
> >
>

> Egg Beaters are perishable and Just Whites is shelf stable.
>
> I think Just Whites is just that. Egg Beaters have stuff added to them.
>

Asking again... is it dehydrated or liquid?

[James Silverton]

That reminds me of the stuff we used during WWII: "dried egg". It wasn't
too bad in lots of cooking but you couldn't make a decent omelet.

[Brooklyn1]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:09:16 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 2/25/2013 7:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
>> news:slrnkio0ul...@nbleet.hcc.net...

>>> On 2013-02-26, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>>>>> water bout 20%
>>>>> orange juice bout 60%
>>>>>
>>>>> add crushed ice
>>>>> blend or not
>>>

>>>> May I ask why?
>>>
>>> Looks like an Orange Julius. I need to try and replicate those. I
>>> loved 'em.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>
>> I used to make this recipe a lot. I really like it, it comes very close
>> to the original IMO.
>>
>>
>> Orange Julius (from Top Secret Recipe book)
>>
>> 1 cup Orange Juice
>> 1 cup water
>> 2 egg whites
>> 3/4 tsp vanilla extract
>> 1/4 granulated sugar
>> 1 heaping cup ice
>>
>> Combine all ingredients in blender set on high speed for exactly one
>> minute.
>>
>> Makes 2 drinks
>
>ISH! Sorry but it doesn't sound like anything I'd like to drink. If I
>want orange juice I'll drink orange juice.
>
>Jill

"Orange Genious"
One large glass, 22 ounces
One entire tray ice cubes
Fill glass half way with Crystal Palace vodka
Fill glass to top with OJ
Bottoms up!

[Brooklyn1]

"Julie Bove" wrote:

>
>I had a sip of an Orange Julius once and only once. I don't know why I
>believed my parents when they told me how goooooooood it was. I didn't like
>OJ to begin with.

You're the first person I know of who doesn't like orange juice, but
it figures it'd be a Julia that wouldn't like a Julious.

[dsi1]

On 2/26/2013 9:13 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> That reminds me of the stuff we used during WWII: "dried egg". It wasn't
> too bad in lots of cooking but you couldn't make a decent omelet.
>

A woman I was talking to the other day said that McDonalds uses powdered
eggs for their scrambled eggs. I can't say if that's true but obviously
their scrambled eggs are made from some homogenous fluid. The important
part about our conversation is that she said that they will fry you up a
real egg if you request it. What the heck, I'm gonna request my eggs
over-easy the next time I eat breakfast there.

[Dave Smith]

What the heck. Ask for poached.

[James Silverton]

On 2/26/2013 3:35 PM, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>

> On 2/26/2013 1:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Egg Beaters is egg white and coloring to make the product look like
>> whole eggs. It's some pretty funky stuff.
>>
>>
>

> Weird texture and taste, totally gross. But they also say they add
> nutrients back in from the yolks, because that's the nutrition powerhouse.
>
> Tossing egg yolks away is just so stupid when it comes to health.
>

Egg yolks are high in cholesterol and contain more fat than you might
imagine. Cardiologists now say they are safe "in moderation" tho' they
didn't use to.

[jmcquown]

Dreamsicles always tasted like baby aspirin to me. Not my idea of a treat!

Jill

[jmcquown]

LOLOL! How about basted eggs? Because of course everyone who works at
McD's knows how to cook eggs every which way ;)

Jill

[James Silverton]

On 2/26/2013 5:04 PM, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>

> On 2/26/2013 4:13 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> Egg yolks are high in cholesterol and contain more fat than you might
>> imagine. Cardiologists now say they are safe "in moderation" tho' they
>> didn't use to.
>>
>

> Yes, fat and cholesterol are essential to human life. The stupid anti
> fat movement is dead, it's the toast and home fries, not the fat you
> need to fear:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648
>
> I cut my CVD risk by more than half by abandoning low fat and
> cholesterol for a higher fat, low starch and sugar diet.
>
> Susan
Good luck; I've been on a no-fat (well, it's not but I try) for twenty
years since my heart bypass.

[notbob]

On 2013-02-26, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> McD's knows how to cook eggs every which way ;)

Seems I read where McDs uses real whole eggs. It's jes they break the
yolk then put 'em in little rings like poachers and cook 'em to death.
I may have been dreaming.

nb

[dsi1]

Are you sure that's not asking for too much? I'm asking because if they
could make me a souffle, that would be just great...

[dsi1]

On 2/26/2013 10:35 AM, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>

> On 2/26/2013 1:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>

>> Egg Beaters is egg white and coloring to make the product look like
>> whole eggs. It's some pretty funky stuff.
>>
>>
>

> Weird texture and taste, totally gross. But they also say they add
> nutrients back in from the yolks, because that's the nutrition powerhouse.
>
> Tossing egg yolks away is just so stupid when it comes to health.
>

> Susan

I've fully embraced the dark side and will just ignore those
recommendations about not eating eggs more than X times a week. Looks
like my goose is cooked...

[Susan]

x-no-arhive: yes

On 2/26/2013 5:15 PM, James Silverton wrote:

> Good luck; I've been on a no-fat (well, it's not but I try) for twenty
> years since my heart bypass.
>

I developed severe metabolic syndrome and diabetes on Ornish years ago,
and other complications. I doubled my HDL and dropped my triglycerides
within weeks of learning to eat fat and protein again.

And food is MUCH better.

The only two macronutrients essential in human nutrition are fat and
protein, restricting them is a bad idea for a whole host of reasons.

Susan

[Nancy Young]

On 2/26/2013 4:38 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/26/2013 11:56 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> My first thought was that it would taste like a Dreamcicle.
>>
>> Which is delicious.

> Dreamsicles always tasted like baby aspirin to me. Not my idea of a treat!

Wait, it's baby aspirin that tastes like dreamcicles, not the other
way around!

nancy

[jmcquown]

I guess I had the baby aspirin before I ever tasted a dreamsicle :) I
had a lot of ear infections as a kid. Never did like orange ice cream
or sherbet.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 26/02/2013 5:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>> A woman I was talking to the other day said that McDonalds uses powdered
>>> eggs for their scrambled eggs. I can't say if that's true but obviously
>>> their scrambled eggs are made from some homogenous fluid. The important
>>> part about our conversation is that she said that they will fry you up a
>>> real egg if you request it. What the heck, I'm gonna request my eggs
>>> over-easy the next time I eat breakfast there.
>>
>>
>> What the heck. Ask for poached.
>
> Are you sure that's not asking for too much? I'm asking because if they
> could make me a souffle, that would be just great...

I would be curious to see how the golden arches could deal with a
poached egg. Besides, I don't like omelettes. They are way, way down on
my list of the best way to prepare eggs.

[Dave Smith]

On 26/02/2013 5:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>
> I've fully embraced the dark side and will just ignore those
> recommendations about not eating eggs more than X times a week. Looks
> like my goose is cooked...

Having had open heart surgery and since eggs always did disagree with
me, I never have more than one egg dish a week.

[dsi1]

My experience with poached eggs at restaurants has been about a third of
the time it's great, a third of the time OK, and a third of the time
over-cooked. I think McDonalds could handle an over easy egg order OK.
I'll find out...

[dsi1]

Sorry to hear about this. That would put the fear of God (or at least,
eggs) in me too. My lipid numbers are pretty good, although that don't
mean that I couldn't drop dead on my keyboards of a heart attack at any
time. That would be a bummer, however.

[Dave Smith]

FWIW, there is an acceptable level of cholesterol, and the that level is
a lot lower for people who have had a coronary incident. My cholesterol
level was below the normal maximum, and only slightly above the
allowable for someone with a history.


My wife thrives on a high fat diet. She has bacon and eggs and regular
fat yogurt for breakfast every day, and usually also has a big chunk of
cheese with it. However, she eats a lot of fruit and vegetables, and
very little starch.

[dsi1]

We had a family friend that had some kind of genetic pre-disposition for
atherosclerosis. He had several heart by-passes while in his thirties.
He couldn't have any fats in his diet at all. It's a bad state to be in.
Good luck to you.

[Bryan]

On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:46:40 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/26/2013 3:17 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 26/02/2013 3:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >> On 2/26/2013 9:13 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>
> >>> That reminds me of the stuff we used during WWII: "dried egg". It wasn't
>
> >>> too bad in lots of cooking but you couldn't make a decent omelet.
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >> A woman I was talking to the other day said that McDonalds uses powdered
>
> >> eggs for their scrambled eggs. I can't say if that's true but obviously
>
> >> their scrambled eggs are made from some homogenous fluid. The important
>
> >> part about our conversation is that she said that they will fry you up a
>
> >> real egg if you request it. What the heck, I'm gonna request my eggs
>
> >> over-easy the next time I eat breakfast there.
>

McDonald's DOES NOT use powdered egg. The woman you talked to is either a
moron or a liar. There are different configurations of interior architecture,
and in some McD's, you can see the area where they make the eggs for the
McMuffins/biscuits/etc. They crack the egg inside a ring, and half-ass
scramble it with a fork like thingie.

>
> > What the heck. Ask for poached.
>
> LOLOL! How about basted eggs? Because of course everyone who works at
>
> McD's knows how to cook eggs every which way ;)
>

Eggs basted in a healthful, high oleic oil are both healthful and aesthetically
pleasing. Basted in clarified butter, they are less healthful, but even more
delicious. Basting is the way to achieve a perfectly fried egg. The best
breakfast restaurants still baste eggs. My wife prefers scrambled (or over
hard), as does my son, but occasionally he will ask for a basted or over
medium, My mother basted with Crisco when I was a kid because they didn't
know better in the 1960s.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Bryan]

I figure it was a clerical error, They said per week, when they should
have said, per day. I almost never eat egg yolks more than two or three
times a day. :)

--Bryan

[z z]

I blame ADHD and a host of other psycho-neuro affectations on low fat
diets during pregnancy and childhood.

My Mom was really big on the low fat thing. I was switched to skim milk
at 6wks of age-yes 6wks. She stuffed us full of potatoes and those
margerines that turned out to be bad for you and bread-I worsened it by
falling in love with soda pop in my teen years back when Diet Soda did
not exist (Tab came on the market during college years.) Dad has had
triple bypass and two stents since. Dad, Sis, and I are/were
diabetic/overweight.

I have posted before about my dramatic low-carb diet years ago. No
exercise high fat/protein low carb diet, for exactly two months between
blood draws, resulted in 20lb wt loss, very dramatic drops in blood
sugar, total cholesterol, triglycerides, (HDL&LDL both dropped also.)

All I did was count carbs and each day I had to be below 50 net carbs
for the day (total carbs minus fiber carbs equals net carbs.) Prior to
the diet I was taking in 300 carbs a day.

Many of my low carb ways have stuck with me though I don't follow it as
tightly now. (As soon as I stopped the low carb diet my cholesterol and
blood sugar numbers shot right back up.)

[Dave Smith]

On 26/02/2013 7:19 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> We had a family friend that had some kind of genetic pre-disposition for
> atherosclerosis. He had several heart by-passes while in his thirties.
> He couldn't have any fats in his diet at all. It's a bad state to be in.
> Good luck to you.

Ouch. I can't imagine going through bypass twice.

[Dimitri]

"Melba's Jammin'" <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:barbschaller-E63A...@news.iphouse.com...
> In article <kggser$faq$1...@dont-email.me>,

> "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> coffee mate vanilla bout 20%
>> water bout 20%
>> orange juice bout 60%
>>
>> add crushed ice
>> blend or not
>>

>> Dimitri
>
> Is this an Orange Dimitrius?
> --
> Barb,
> http://www.barbschaller.com, as of February 10, 2013.

:-)

Dimitri

[dsi1]

On 2/26/2013 2:51 PM, Bryan wrote:
> McDonald's DOES NOT use powdered egg. The woman you talked to is either a
> moron or a liar. There are different configurations of interior architecture,
> and in some McD's, you can see the area where they make the eggs for the
> McMuffins/biscuits/etc. They crack the egg inside a ring, and half-ass
> scramble it with a fork like thingie.

My guess is that you think everybody is either a moron or a liar. This
is not a good state to be in. In this case however, you're overreacting
just a tiny bit. The eggs in question are scrambled and this fact was
mentioned 2 times in the most clearest of terms.

You are correct that the eggs for McDonalds Eggs McMuffin are cooked in
a ring and that the yolks are broken. That's the way it's always been
since they started making this breakfast sandwich. My guess is they'd
rather use their homogenous egg mix because they don't use fresh eggs in
their other sandwich, although don't get all excited if I'm wrong about
this since I'm no McDonald breakfast sandwich expert.

[dsi1]

It was sad, the guy was a lean, athletic, type. Our sons were in
baseball together. His son had a 50% chance of having the condition.

[George M. Middius]

dsi1 wrote:

> My guess is that you think everybody is either a moron or a liar.

Welcome to the human race. You've heard of Diogenes, right? Maybe try reading
a couple of Mark Twain's books, too.

[dsi1]

Don't tell me "Welcome to the human race" I invented "Welcome to the
human race!" I'm as cynical and mistrusting as any Usenet poster that
ever was. I'm more black-hearted than you'll ever be because you still
believe that whining and bitching and hassling people is gonna change
things. Ha ha!

[George M. Middius]

Bad guess, my churlish friend. I believe that bitching etc. is therapeutic for
the indulger.

In my experience, your capsule summary of Bryan's viewpoint should be
generalized. Sad to say, most people are idiots AND liars.

On the subject of food, you know those nasty mystery meat patties in the
freezer? They're heavily breaded and labeled "chicken". I just found out that
some people consider them "home cooking".

[Dave Smith]

On 27/02/2013 3:26 PM, George M. Middius wrote:

> In my experience, your capsule summary of Bryan's viewpoint should be
> generalized. Sad to say, most people are idiots AND liars.
>
> On the subject of food, you know those nasty mystery meat patties in the
> freezer? They're heavily breaded and labeled "chicken". I just found out that
> some people consider them "home cooking".
>

For some people that is home cooking. If they buy are served Brand X
chicken burgers at the local diner they consider it to be restaurant
food and the entry level burger flipper is their chef. If they buy the
same product at the grocery store and cook them at home it is home cooking.

I didn't have any sisters, but my brothers and I all learned to cook
when we were kids. All three of my brothers will readily admit that I
am the best, the two older ones might have some difference of opinion
about which of them are number two and three. My youngest brother is
undoubtedly the the least talented in the kitchen. To his credit, he
does occasionally make hamburg patties from ground meat. It is more
typical for them to come out of a box in the freezer.

He sometimes bakes cakes.... from a mix. He sometimes makes manicotti,
but the sauce is from a jar. He is retired and his wife works, so he
does most of the cooking. A lot of his food comes from places like M&M.
Almost everything that he dishes up and thinks of as home cooking comes
from a package he got at the store. Thaw and heat in oven... or from
freezer to oven.

[George M. Middius]

Dave Smith wrote:

> He sometimes makes manicotti,
> but the sauce is from a jar.

If that's tomato sauce, most people have no other option. Where I live, you
can only get good, ripe tomatoes a couple months of the year.

If it's cream sauce, shame on him! They actually sell "alfredo sauce" in a
jar, fer chrissakes. And there's some kind of powder that's supposed to turn
into bearnaise sauce.

[Dave Smith]

On 27/02/2013 3:47 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> He sometimes makes manicotti,
>> but the sauce is from a jar.
>
> If that's tomato sauce, most people have no other option. Where I live, you
> can only get good, ripe tomatoes a couple months of the year.
>

That is the difference between him and me. That is the closed that he
gets to home made. He buys the pasta, the cheese, the meat and the
sauce. I don't often make Italian food at home, but when I do it is one
of the few things which I cook that involves a prepared food.... the
sauce. At least my Parmesan is fresh grated, He used the plastic stuff
from a can.

[dsi1]

>
> Bad guess, my churlish friend. I believe that bitching etc. is therapeutic for
> the indulger.
>
> In my experience, your capsule summary of Bryan's viewpoint should be
> generalized. Sad to say, most people are idiots AND liars.

Mostly, people learn to disrespect other people because that's what
their parents taught them. One day, his kids will learn to disrespect
him. It's a nasty cycle.

[jmcquown]

On 2/28/2013 8:12 AM, jay wrote:
> In article <qoqsi8llorbqe1qf8...@4ax.com>,

> George M. Middius <glan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sad to say, most people are idiots AND liars.
>

> Your social experience sounds so sad. Most people I know and meet are
> not idiots or liars.
>
> jay
>
You're assuming he *has* any social experience. I doubt there's much
company under that bridge.

Jill

[Cheri]

"jay" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
news:kgnl46$alt$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

> In article <qoqsi8llorbqe1qf8...@4ax.com>,
> George M. Middius <glan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> Sad to say, most people are idiots AND liars.
>

> Your social experience sounds so sad. Most people I know and meet are
> not idiots or liars.
>
> jay

Me either, and sometimes I think your social experience depends on what you
bring to the table. If it's always negativity and cutting remarks (cough,
cough) then I imagine you will be treated the same way, while blaming
others. That's what sad.

Cheri

[sf]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:12:40 -0600, jay <us...@example.net> wrote:

> In article <qoqsi8llorbqe1qf8...@4ax.com>,
> George M. Middius <glan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > Sad to say, most people are idiots AND liars.
>

> Your social experience sounds so sad. Most people I know and meet are
> not idiots or liars.
>

Ditto. Can't say that for usenet although a large part of them are
who they are cyberly or in person.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.