OT: Endoscopy's take em'. You can have em.
garden-variety dick
like they put a die in my mouth which kept my mouth open; it had a
hole in it for the cable to pass through. So I'm waiting for the
anesthetic to work. All of a sudden, the doc takes the tube and
starts shoving it down my throat. I'm going bonkers. I'm doing my
best to get that tube out of my throat, I'm grunting and using my
inner muscles to try and expel the darned thing. I don't want to hit
anybody, but there is no way they're going to do this to me. I'm
watching the tube and can see all of my insides roiling and working.
The nurses and doc told me they can't give me any more anesthetic, and
I'd have to take the tube as is. No Way! After a while, I woke up.
Turns out that they did give me another shot while they were fighting
with me. What an experience.
My uncle had this done in the '60's, and told me that they never gave
him freezing, or put him under. He fought like hell until he finally
gave in and put up with it. I wouldn't have been able to do that.
merryb
wrote:
Sounds horrible- I woke up when I was having all 4 of my wisdom teeth
pulled. It was not a nice experience...
garden-variety dick
Doesn't sound too pleasant.
There is a very small percentage of people who remain awake during
surgery(all types). They are completely paralyzed, but know and hear
everything that is going on around them. I only hope that they cannot
feel the pain. That would be nuts.
merryb
>
> - Show quoted text -
I wonder if that's what it's like to be in a coma...
Nancy2
> Doesn't sound too pleasant.
> There is a very small percentage of people who remain awake during
> surgery(all types). They are completely paralyzed, but know and hear
> everything that is going on around them. I only hope that they cannot
>
> - Show quoted text -
Reports are that they can feel the pain. It would be beyond horrible.
N.
Lou Decruss
You do feel the pain and it is horrible. Luckily the nurse was more
aware than the doctor and I heard her say: "he feels it" I guess my
face was twitching. They pumped more drugs in me and that's the last
I remember. I would describe the feeling as living through a
nightmare.
Lou
Lynn from Fargo
wrote:
First one I had (bleeding duodenal ulcer) they gave me a sedative. I
was waaaaaaaay awake. Here comes the doc at my throat with what
looked like a bathroom towel rack with big Legos on the end. I have a
very small mouth and it was not pleasant.
Two years ago I had my "happy-birthday-you're-50" colonoscopy. Piece
o' Cake! Those other jerks were just in a damned hurry! Let this be
a lesson to ALL! Tell 'em before they start if the sedative/
anesthetic has not taken effect.
Lynin Fargo
Dave Smith
>
> First one I had (bleeding duodenal ulcer) they gave me a sedative. I
> was waaaaaaaay awake. Here comes the doc at my throat with what
> looked like a bathroom towel rack with big Legos on the end. I have a
> very small mouth and it was not pleasant.
> Two years ago I had my "happy-birthday-you're-50" colonoscopy. Piece
> o' Cake! Those other jerks were just in a damned hurry! Let this be
> a lesson to ALL! Tell 'em before they start if the sedative/
> anesthetic has not taken effect.
My wife wishes she had been sedated for her endoscopy. She found it
extremely uncomfortable. I got sedated for a root canal.They gave me
pill and some magazines to read while I waited. I read for a while,
looked at pictures for a while, flipped pages for a while, and then the
nurse came and picked up the magazines off the floor. The dentist came
in and said she was going to get started. Somewhere along the way I felt
some pain but didn't care. The next thing I knew she said that she was
almost done. They helped my wife get me out to the car and my wife said
I had been in there for more than 2 hours. It sure didn't seem that
long, it was more like 10 minutes. I recommend sedation.
T
adavid...@sympatico.ca says...
The only time I've ever been sedated for dental work is for extractions.
Just slip that IV in and it's la-la land.
Supposedly the same drug is used for endoscopy.
Had my root canal the old fashioned way with lidocaine alone. Of course
I did see an endodontist so the whole process took < 45 minutes for a
molar.
Dan Abel
<36ecc093-b7e9-4f25...@o23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There is a very small percentage of people who remain awake during
> surgery(all types). They are completely paralyzed, but know and hear
> everything that is going on around them. I only hope that they cannot
> feel the pain. That would be nuts.
My HMO doesn't believe in knocking people out during surgery. It
sounded pretty horrible, but the surgeon assured me that it would be
fine, and that there were many benefits to it. He was right. I had
absolutely no problems, and was awake for the whole thing. It was major
abdominal surgery (hernia repair, second time in the same place). There
was plenty of local anesthetic, so no pain, and enough happy juice
through the IV that the whole experience didn't bother me, although I'm
really pretty squeamish about such things. It was a long day, but it
was outpatient surgery. I got there early to check in, and was out by
mid-afternoon. I've had three other surgeries awake. One went poorly.
The doctor didn't believe in tranquilizers! I found a different surgeon
after that.
A lot of the surgical risk, and the difficulty in recovery right after
surgery, comes from the anesthesia, not the surgery. The last surgery I
had was two hours. I was awake the whole time, and reasonably happy. A
half hour after surgery, they sent me home. I have also had two
surgeries during that time where I was knocked out, one when I was out
of town on vacation, and the other a dental procedure (impacted wisdom
tooth). I prefer being awake.
My second surgery awake was very easy. The guy who had the surgery
before me, and who had had his preop appointment right before me, was
knocked out. He was old, deaf and uncooperative. The doctor was unable
to explain the surgery to him. The doctor tried to talk to the
patient's wife, but she refused, saying that he would listen to her even
less. The doctor was unwilling to perform surgery on someone who was
awake and didn't know what was going on.
ObFood: A lot of the problems with eating after surgery are related to
the anesthesia. After my second surgery awake, we went home for a
little while, and then out to lunch at our favorite Mexican restaurant.
I was told not to go to work the next day, as residual tranquilizer
would make it unsafe to drive, but I worked from home, and got a lot
done.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
PeterL
3ac318...@x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com:
> Sounds horrible- I woke up when I was having all 4 of my wisdom teeth
> pulled. It was not a nice experience...
>
I've woken up (early) after major surgery still in the operating theater but
in the process of being wheeled out, to hear the surgeon say "Oh Shit!! It's
bent. Get him back in here, we have to get that thing out. Get him under
before he wakes up!!".
He was a bit shocked the next day when I asked him WTF he bent!! :-)
Ahhhhhh, Public Hospitals in the mid-70's!!
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
PeterL
c87dcc...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> First one I had (bleeding duodenal ulcer) they gave me a sedative. I
> was waaaaaaaay awake. Here comes the doc at my throat with what
> looked like a bathroom towel rack with big Legos on the end. I have a
> very small mouth and it was not pleasant.
I'm 6'2" so would say I have an 'average' sized mouth....... but when they
tried an endoscopy on me, they just couldn't get it in!!
They had to give me a GA to get it done :-)
> Two years ago I had my "happy-birthday-you're-50" colonoscopy. Piece
> o' Cake! Those other jerks were just in a damned hurry! Let this be
> a lesson to ALL! Tell 'em before they start if the sedative/
> anesthetic has not taken effect.
Had one of those too. Same doctor, same result as the endoscopy :-)
He told my SO that they usually only have to GA the spastics beccause they
twitch and move around soo much!!
I just said "Didn't you see the tattoo on my arse that says 'Exit
Only'??" :-)
Wayne Boatwright
> In article
> <36ecc093-b7e9-4f25...@o23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> There is a very small percentage of people who remain awake during
>> surgery(all types). They are completely paralyzed, but know and hear
>> everything that is going on around them. I only hope that they cannot
>> feel the pain. That would be nuts.
>
> My HMO doesn't believe in knocking people out during surgery. It
> sounded pretty horrible, but the surgeon assured me that it would be
> fine, and that there were many benefits to it. He was right. I had
> absolutely no problems, and was awake for the whole thing. It was major
> abdominal surgery (hernia repair, second time in the same place). There
> was plenty of local anesthetic, so no pain, and enough happy juice
> through the IV that the whole experience didn't bother me, although I'm
> really pretty squeamish about such things. It was a long day, but it
> was outpatient surgery. I got there early to check in, and was out by
> mid-afternoon. I've had three other surgeries awake. One went poorly.
> The doctor didn't believe in tranquilizers! I found a different surgeon
> after that.
I was awake when I had all my teeth extracted last July. I was given two
little pills to take a half hour before I arrived. A friend who had gone
to the same dentist and had taken the same two pills was knocked out by
them. I was only relaxed by them. Of course, there was plenty of local
anesthetic in all parts of my mouth, and I literally had no pain at all.
This was a procedure I was really fearing. Post surgically I was given a
prescription of oxycodone that would last a week. I took exactly one
tablet when I got home and went to bed. Never needed another one.
I was amazed by the process.
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
Gregory Morrow
Why "amazed"...it's not like you haven't had plenty of dick in yer piehole
over the years...
--
Best
Greg
Omelet
<012aa8da-ec77-40fb...@u20g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wuss.
I had an endoscopy when I was in my early 30's with no
anesthesia/sedative. They could not give my narcotics because I was on
my own and had to drive afterwards.
Medical procedures are voluntary. Get over it...
--
Peace! Om
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--Steve Rothstein
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~misfit~
Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of codeine was
all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh, and they took
(read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for biospy. I controlled the
gag reflex and it was all done in 15 minutes. I've even got the some pics
printed out to prove it.
It's no big deal.
--
Shaun.
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of codeine was
> all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh, and they took
> (read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for biospy. I controlled the
> gag reflex and it was all done in 15 minutes. I've even got the some pics
> printed out to prove it.
>
> It's no big deal.
> --
> Shaun.
The gag reflex was the worst part of it I recall.
The nurse (cute guy named Greg) kept telling me to breathe and once I
started breathing around the tube, the gagging stopped. After that, it
was no big deal.
They biopsied my stomach too. I think that's a normal part of the
procedure when they see something wrong.
And I agree, it's no big deal. After all, you volunteered to do it!
Like I said before, I did it with no drugs at all due to circumstances...
I had to drive myself home, so no goodies. :-P
brooklyn1
wrote:
>In article
><012aa8da-ec77-40fb...@u20g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
> garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Had an endoscopy done last night. I was told I'd be be put out. So
>> like they put a die in my mouth which kept my mouth open; it had a
>> hole in it for the cable to pass through. So I'm waiting for the
>> anesthetic to work. All of a sudden, the doc takes the tube and
>> starts shoving it down my throat. I'm going bonkers. I'm doing my
>> best to get that tube out of my throat, I'm grunting and using my
>> inner muscles to try and expel the darned thing. I don't want to hit
>> anybody, but there is no way they're going to do this to me. I'm
>> watching the tube and can see all of my insides roiling and working.
>> The nurses and doc told me they can't give me any more anesthetic, and
>> I'd have to take the tube as is. No Way! After a while, I woke up.
>> Turns out that they did give me another shot while they were fighting
>> with me. What an experience.
>> My uncle had this done in the '60's, and told me that they never gave
>> him freezing, or put him under. He fought like hell until he finally
>> gave in and put up with it. I wouldn't have been able to do that.
>
>Wuss.
>
>I had an endoscopy when I was in my early 30's with no
>anesthesia/sedative.
Depends... not all endoscope procedures are the same. When the scope
is inserted nasally for observing the larynx no anesthesia/sedative is
used but when scoping the bronchials or esophagus, before beginning
the procedure the IV set up is put into place.
>They could not give my narcotics because I was on
>my own and had to drive afterwards.
That's bullshit... you don't get to decide procedural protocol on
whether you will be sedated/anesthecised... I thought you were going
to say you couldn't be put under for medical reasons, but you didn't
have a ride, that's a bullshit. You would have been instructed way in
advance to arrange for transportation as part of the prep, had you not
they simply would not perform the procedure, simple as that. Many
facilities will arrange for transportation as a matter of course, I
used to be on a volunteer driver list for people undergoing medical
procedures who for whatever reason they could not secure a ride, and
many facilities will pay for a taxi... and I underwent those
procedures myself... no tickie no laundy! Perhaps you didn't need
sedation or anesthesia because yours was a proctoscopy... you wouldn't
have felt a thing! LOL
blake murphy
i understand the driving home afterward part , but why needlessly suffer
pain or discomfort? just to be able to say you're 'tough'?
your pal,
blake
cybercat
"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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cybercat
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
> Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of codeine
> was all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh, and they took
> (read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for biospy. I controlled the
> gag reflex and it was all done in 15 minutes. I've even got the some pics
> printed out to prove it.
>
> It's no big deal.
> --
> Shaun.
It's your ass that's sore, isn't it?
garden-variety dick
pavane
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote in message
news:he8ili$vrm$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
| ......
| Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of codeine was
| all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh, and they took
| (read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for biospy. I controlled the
| gag reflex and it was all done in 15 minutes. I've even got the some pics
| printed out to prove it.
|
| It's no big deal.
| --
| Shaun.
Omigod you are brave and strong. I worship people who have
such courage and self-control in the face of mutilation and desecration.
Have you a website? I would love to donate money to your many
charities and to yourself to encourage you to have more and more
undersedated procedures to prove your manliness. Have you considered
publishing a book of your pictures and having it signed by all of your
doubtless hordes of admiring nurses and practitioners? Make it a coffee-
table book and maybe Kramer can get it published, there is a lot of
money to be made there. Meanwhile you can get in touch with Glenn
Beck and tell him how your Bravery and Americanism can help to
defeat the forces of Anti-palinism who quiver and shake at the thought
of responsible healthcare that considers the patient rather than the
vainglorious yearnings of those who wish to be tortured by their next
medical procedure, all in the cause of Endured Agony. Godspeed.
pavane
~misfit~
Sorry, for got the smiley. :-)
~misfit~
Take that back! I have no Americansim in me whatsoever.
Some people have no imagination. Usenet's world-wide pavane. I know, hard to
imagine that there's life outside of your town, yet alone state or country
huh?
> can help to
> defeat the forces of Anti-palinism who quiver and shake at the thought
> of responsible healthcare that considers the patient rather than the
> vainglorious yearnings of those who wish to be tortured by their next
> medical procedure, all in the cause of Endured Agony. Godspeed.
Thanks. It needed to be done and I'm a grown man who's lived through broken
bones and worse. I didn't see the point in kicking up a fuss over a tube
being inserted into my stomach. <shrug>
Omelet
brooklyn1 <grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I thought you were going
> to say you couldn't be put under for medical reasons, but you didn't
> have a ride, that's a bullshit. You would have been instructed way in
> advance to arrange for transportation as part of the prep, had you not
> they simply would not perform the procedure, simple as that.
You can't get a ride, you can't get a ride. Period.
No ride, no anesthesia.
I was willing to cope with it and had no problem doing so.
It was outpatient so no bed overnight.
Omelet
blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
> i understand the driving home afterward part , but why needlessly suffer
> pain or discomfort? just to be able to say you're 'tough'?
>
> your pal,
> blake
Maybe because it was no big deal?
It was uncomfortable, but it didn't "hurt".
I could have said no, but there was no good reason to not just get it
over with. And they found the problem...
~misfit~
> In article <he8ili$vrm$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of
>> codeine was all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh,
>> and they took (read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for
>> biospy. I controlled the gag reflex and it was all done in 15
>> minutes. I've even got the some pics printed out to prove it.
>>
>> It's no big deal.
>
> The nurse (cute guy named Greg) kept telling me to breathe and once I
> started breathing around the tube, the gagging stopped. After that, it
> was no big deal.
Agreed.
> They biopsied my stomach too. I think that's a normal part of the
> procedure when they see something wrong.
Not even if they see something wrong, It's standard to check for
helicobacter pylori while they're there.
> And I agree, it's no big deal. After all, you volunteered to do it!
Exactly so.
> Like I said before, I did it with no drugs at all due to
> circumstances... I had to drive myself home, so no goodies. :-P
I told them not to bother with the drugs unless they were prepared to
quadruple the usual dose (I asked what it was, and laughed when they told
me) as I'm already on so much opioid analgesic and benzodiazapiene use (3
different ones over the course of the day) that the meds they gave me were
not going to have an effect due to my tolerance that I've built up over the
years. They insisted on the paltry few mgs, but I didn't 'feel' the meds at
all. In the pre-op they kept coming in to ask me if I felt drowsy, I kept
telling them no, and I wasn't likely to be. Either give me more meds or just
get on with it. They just got on with it.
--
Cheers,
pavane
When you call others who have problems with the procedure "Wuss" you are
insulting them. Biggie for you but some can't tolerate certain procedures
or elements of pain or discomfort. Where in the hell do you get off telling
them that they are wusses and implying that you are so big and strong and
brave and courageous while they are inferiously weak and wimpy. You are
a pathetic jerk, scum on the pond of humanity. I spent ten years in the
US Marines, what the hell were you doing, washing diapers (nappies) for
Petey's babies? Tell us again how big and strong you are, and it is a
pleasure to be told that you are a Grown Man. From your comments above
one could not tell.
pavane
~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of
>> codeine was all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh,
>> and they took (read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for
>> biospy. I controlled the gag reflex and it was all done in 15
>> minutes. I've even got the some pics printed out to prove it.
>>
>> It's no big deal.
>
How did you know that? Are you psycho? (When you refer to 'ass' I suppose
you mean arse and not some donkey-type creature?)
As a side effect of my PKs for my chronic back pain I have reduced action of
the peristaltic muscles in my intestines. Consequently I have piles and have
had *four* endoscopies at that end of the body in the last two years, three
of them to have bands fitted to piles (rubber-band ligation), three bands
the first time and two each of the next times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT_AsC6qfuw
Also on two occasions I've had a 'sigmoidoscopy'. Absolutely no meds
involved in those ops (no gag reflex with my arse), not even any sweet
talk.... Luckilly there was lube involved.
Govt. funded health care is all about numbers, get 'em in and get 'em
out.....
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > They biopsied my stomach too. I think that's a normal part of the
> > procedure when they see something wrong.
>
> Not even if they see something wrong, It's standard to check for
> helicobacter pylori while they're there.
Yes, and it was positive. But nowadays, there is a blood test for that.
>
> > And I agree, it's no big deal. After all, you volunteered to do it!
>
> Exactly so.
;-)
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> I told them not to bother with the drugs unless they were prepared to
> quadruple the usual dose (I asked what it was, and laughed when they told
> me) as I'm already on so much opioid analgesic and benzodiazapiene use (3
> different ones over the course of the day) that the meds they gave me were
> not going to have an effect due to my tolerance that I've built up over the
> years. They insisted on the paltry few mgs, but I didn't 'feel' the meds at
> all. In the pre-op they kept coming in to ask me if I felt drowsy, I kept
> telling them no, and I wasn't likely to be. Either give me more meds or just
> get on with it. They just got on with it.
> --
> Cheers,
> Shaun.
Why are you taking so many drugs?
My Doc' offered me Benzo's for insomnia, but I turned her down. I'd
rather not risk addiction.
Not criticizing, just curious...
I finally gave in to the shoulder pain issues and took my Doc' up on a
Tramadol Rx. that I only use as needed to get some bloody sleep!
I only had to use it for a few days tho' as the ART therapy finally
started working. I'd rather use therapy than drugs if I can...
~misfit~
> <012aa8da-ec77-40fb...@u20g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
> garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Had an endoscopy done last night. I was told I'd be be put out. So
>> like they put a die in my mouth which kept my mouth open; it had a
>> hole in it for the cable to pass through. So I'm waiting for the
>> anesthetic to work. All of a sudden, the doc takes the tube and
>> starts shoving it down my throat. I'm going bonkers. I'm doing my
>> best to get that tube out of my throat, I'm grunting and using my
>> inner muscles to try and expel the darned thing. I don't want to hit
>> anybody, but there is no way they're going to do this to me. I'm
>> watching the tube and can see all of my insides roiling and working.
>> The nurses and doc told me they can't give me any more anesthetic,
>> and I'd have to take the tube as is. No Way! After a while, I woke
>> up. Turns out that they did give me another shot while they were
>> fighting with me. What an experience.
>> My uncle had this done in the '60's, and told me that they never gave
>> him freezing, or put him under. He fought like hell until he finally
>> gave in and put up with it. I wouldn't have been able to do that.
>
> Wuss.
LOL. I just saw that you started your reply the same way I did. (Don't know
why the "OT" was stripped from mine though.)
--
Cheers,
Shaun.
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
> I had an endoscopy when I was in my early 30's with no
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> >> My uncle had this done in the '60's, and told me that they never gave
> >> him freezing, or put him under. He fought like hell until he finally
> >> gave in and put up with it. I wouldn't have been able to do that.
> >
> > Wuss.
>
> LOL. I just saw that you started your reply the same way I did. (Don't know
> why the "OT" was stripped from mine though.)
> --
> Cheers,
> Shaun.
Some Newsreaders do that.
I find it odd that you got chided for calling him a Wuss, and I did not.
;-)
Must be 'cause I'm a girl?
Women DO have a higher pain tolerance... but it honestly never did hurt.
It was unpleasant (endoscopy down the throat) but hardly painful.
garden-variety dick
> In article <heac0q$eg...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > I told them not to bother with the drugs unless they were prepared to
> > quadruple the usual dose (I asked what it was, and laughed when they told
> > me) as I'm already on so much opioid analgesic and benzodiazapiene use (3
> > different ones over the course of the day) that the meds they gave me were
> > not going to have an effect due to my tolerance that I've built up over the
> > years. They insisted on the paltry few mgs, but I didn't 'feel' the meds at
> > all. In the pre-op they kept coming in to ask me if I felt drowsy, I kept
> > telling them no, and I wasn't likely to be. Either give me more meds or just
> > get on with it. They just got on with it.
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Shaun.
>
> Why are you taking so many drugs?
> My Doc' offered me Benzo's for insomnia, but I turned her down. I'd
> rather not risk addiction.
>
> Not criticizing, just curious...
>
> I finally gave in to the shoulder pain issues and took my Doc' up on a
> Tramadol Rx. that I only use as needed to get some bloody sleep!
> I only had to use it for a few days tho' as the ART therapy finally
> started working. I'd rather use therapy than drugs if I can...
> --
But you used drugs as soon as you felt discomfort/pain. Now your
'wuss' crap flies back into your face.
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
> --Steve Rothstein
>
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garden-variety dick
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Omelet wrote:
>
So you were on opioids to begin with? Then you were on more drugs/
painkillers than I was. Your 'wuss' crap has just flown back into
your face. Hope you like it.
:)
garden-variety dick
> "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:heaa3h$25n$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> | Somewhere on teh intarwebs pavane wrote:
Some people lead sedate non-eventual lives and need to proclaim their
form of courage loudly. I suppose getting this procedure done without
dope(although misfit had opioids going on in his system which makes
him a liar)is one of the high points of their lives.
Omlette rules here, as she is great. An Amazon with enough grit to
populate a beach with sand. I think a Marine would say something
like: 'She's so tough she could eat her own guts and ask for
seconds.'
garden-variety dick
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs cybercat wrote:
>
>
> >> Wuss. I had it done a couple years ago. 20mg Valium and a bit of
> >> codeine was all they gave me. I didn't even get the fancy 'die'. Oh,
> >> and they took (read: cut) two samples of my stomach lining for
> >> biospy. I controlled the gag reflex and it was all done in 15
> >> minutes. I've even got the some pics printed out to prove it.
>
> >> It's no big deal.
>
> > It's your ass that's sore, isn't it?
>
> How did you know that? Are you psycho? (When you refer to 'ass' I suppose
> you mean arse and not some donkey-type creature?)
>
> As a side effect of my PKs for my chronic back pain I have reduced action of
> the peristaltic muscles in my intestines. Consequently I have piles and have
> had *four* endoscopies at that end of the body in the last two years, three
> of them to have bands fitted to piles (rubber-band ligation), three bands
> the first time and two each of the next times.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT_AsC6qfuw
>
> Also on two occasions I've had a 'sigmoidoscopy'. Absolutely no meds
> involved in those ops (no gag reflex with my arse), not even any sweet
> talk.... Luckilly there was lube involved.
>
Sorry misfit lying tough man of the Occidental Accident. They put
something up my backside, I want meds. And just so you know, I don't
feel any less for wanting meds for my endoscopy. Nor will I feel bad
when I demand meds if/when they do a colonoscopy.
Omelet
<7da64e26-5925-4710...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I finally gave in to the shoulder pain issues and took my Doc' up on a
> > Tramadol Rx. that I only use as needed to get some bloody sleep!
> > I only had to use it for a few days tho' as the ART therapy finally
> > started working. �I'd rather use therapy than drugs if I can...
> > --
>
> But you used drugs as soon as you felt discomfort/pain. Now your
> 'wuss' crap flies back into your face.
No, I suffered for months without taking pain drugs. I finally started
losing too much sleep (was down to about 1 and 1/2 hours per day) and
that was affecting my ability to work.
I took it because I had to, not because I wanted to.
--
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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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pavane
>"garden-variety dick" <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:39aee0ea-20fb-4726...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> ..........
>Some people lead sedate non-eventual lives and need to proclaim their
>form of courage loudly. I suppose getting this procedure done without
>dope(although misfit had opioids going on in his system which makes
>him a liar)is one of the high points of their lives.
>Omlette rules here, as she is great. An Amazon with enough grit to
>populate a beach with sand. I think a Marine would say something
>like: 'She's so tough she could eat her own guts and ask for
>seconds.'
She also cooks well, writes great recipes and takes super pictures.
pavane
Omelet
"pavane" <pav...@somewhere.something.com> wrote:
> She also cooks well, writes great recipes and takes super pictures.
>
> pavane
Why thank you Pavane! :-)
You're a really good cook too and I've gotten some good recipe ideas
from you in the past.
garden-variety dick
> garden-variety dick <x.smiling_ti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I finally gave in to the shoulder pain issues and took my Doc' up on a
> > > Tramadol Rx. that I only use as needed to get some bloody sleep!
> > > I only had to use it for a few days tho' as the ART therapy finally
> > > started working. I'd rather use therapy than drugs if I can...
> > > --
>
> > But you used drugs as soon as you felt discomfort/pain. Now your
> > 'wuss' crap flies back into your face.
>
> No, I suffered for months without taking pain drugs. I finally started
> losing too much sleep (was down to about 1 and 1/2 hours per day) and
> that was affecting my ability to work.
>
> I took it because I had to, not because I wanted to.
> --
You're a wuss. A hypocrite and a liar. And you live to bring other
people down. That makes you a shitter.
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
> --Steve Rothstein
>
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garden-variety dick
> >"garden-variety dick" <x.smiling_ti...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
How do you know that she cooks well? You tasted the shit comes out of
her kitchen? Any fool can break a few eggs and make an omlette. Even
you.
Omelet
<7c6b9bf7-e9a2-4117...@o31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
garden-variety dick <x.smili...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 9:58�am, "pavane" <pav...@somewhere.something.com> wrote:
> > >"garden-variety dick" <x.smiling ti...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:39aee0ea-20fb-4726...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > ..........
> > >Some people lead sedate non-eventual lives and need to proclaim their
> > >form of courage loudly. �I suppose getting this procedure done without
> > >dope(although misfit had opioids going on in his system which makes
> > >him a liar)is one of the high points of their lives.
> > >Omlette rules here, as she is great. �An Amazon with enough grit to
> > >populate a beach with sand. I think a Marine would say something
> > >like: �'She's so tough she could eat her own guts and ask for
> > >seconds.'
> >
> > She also cooks well, writes great recipes and takes super pictures.
> >
> > pavane
>
> How do you know that she cooks well? You tasted the shit comes out of
> her kitchen? Any fool can break a few eggs and make an omlette. Even
> you.
Welcome to my bozo bin. <plonk>
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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garden-variety dick
> garden-variety dick <x.smiling_ti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 9:58 am, "pavane" <pav...@somewhere.something.com> wrote:
> > > >"garden-variety dick" <x.smiling ti...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:39aee0ea-20fb-4726...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > ..........
> > > >Some people lead sedate non-eventual lives and need to proclaim their
> > > >form of courage loudly. I suppose getting this procedure done without
> > > >dope(although misfit had opioids going on in his system which makes
> > > >him a liar)is one of the high points of their lives.
> > > >Omlette rules here, as she is great. An Amazon with enough grit to
> > > >populate a beach with sand. I think a Marine would say something
> > > >like: 'She's so tough she could eat her own guts and ask for
> > > >seconds.'
>
> > > She also cooks well, writes great recipes and takes super pictures.
>
> > > pavane
>
> > How do you know that she cooks well? You tasted the shit comes out of
> > her kitchen? Any fool can break a few eggs and make an omlette. Even
> > you.
>
> Welcome to my bozo bin. <plonk>
> --
Thank-you Cow. May the gods of endoscopy shove shit down your throat
for all eternity.
:)
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
> --Steve Rothstein
>
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~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>> They biopsied my stomach too. I think that's a normal part of the
>>> procedure when they see something wrong.
>>
>> Not even if they see something wrong, It's standard to check for
>> helicobacter pylori while they're there.
>
> Yes, and it was positive. But nowadays, there is a blood test for
> that.
Ahhh, that's probably quite new. Or at least I didn't know...
--
Shaun.
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
>>> And I agree, it's no big deal. After all, you volunteered to do it!
>>
>> Exactly so.
>
> ;-)
~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>> I told them not to bother with the drugs unless they were prepared to
>> quadruple the usual dose (I asked what it was, and laughed when they
>> told me) as I'm already on so much opioid analgesic and
>> benzodiazapiene use (3 different ones over the course of the day)
>> that the meds they gave me were not going to have an effect due to
>> my tolerance that I've built up over the years. They insisted on the
>> paltry few mgs, but I didn't 'feel' the meds at all. In the pre-op
>> they kept coming in to ask me if I felt drowsy, I kept telling them
>> no, and I wasn't likely to be. Either give me more meds or just get
>> on with it. They just got on with it. --
>> Cheers,
>> Shaun.
>
> Why are you taking so many drugs?
Because I can? <g>
> My Doc' offered me Benzo's for insomnia, but I turned her down. I'd
> rather not risk addiction.
Addiction shcmadiction. (More on that later). I'm on clonazepam to reduce
the spasming of my back muscles, temazepam for sleep (as, I've been an
insomniac since I was in utero [apparently] and also, with my back problems
I can only sleep in one position and it's remarkably difficult to do that.
I'm also on alprazolam for an anxiety disorder but I've been [voluntarily]
reducing that for a while now.
> Not criticizing, just curious...
Sure, no problems.
> I finally gave in to the shoulder pain issues and took my Doc' up on a
> Tramadol Rx. that I only use as needed to get some bloody sleep!
> I only had to use it for a few days tho' as the ART therapy finally
> started working. I'd rather use therapy than drugs if I can...
Yeah, my lower back's so damaged with compression fractures of the
vertabrae, damaged discs and associated sciatica and other radiculopathic
nerve problems that, without some form of pain relief it'd be difficult to
do the basic things I need to do from day to day. I'm grossly
under-medicated as the govt. policy here in NZ is to only prescribe 'strong
opiods' to people with 'terminal' illness.
This policy frustrates me immensely as those people are going to die soon
anyway whereas I could go another 30 years or more with my pain. Also, the
orthopaedic surgeon who last examined me said that my injuries had 'gone
degenerative' so surely that puts me in the 'terminal illness' category as
we all have to die some time and my back isn't getting better, in fact the
opposite.
Opioids are about the most benign on drugs that we have in our arsenal
against pain. The only side effects really are habituation (or addiction)
and constipation (which can be largely handled by eating high fibre diets).
Some of these new concoctions they've tried me on have all sorts of nasty
side effects, some as bad as the pain they're treating. Yet because opioids
have been demonised in the media and the public eye they are considered a
drug of last resort. <shrug>
It's really frustrating to have a really active mind but to be unable
physically to do much... There's only so much 'mind control' I can exert
over the pain before it exhausts me.
~misfit~
Heh! Actually I was told to not take my regular meds that day as they didn't
want them interfering with their (paltry) sedatives. So, as it turned out I
was in more pain than normal, probably part of the reason I could ignore the
gag reflex and just let them get on with it so I could get the hell out of
Dodge and go hame and take my meds.
--
~misfit~
And some people look for others to team up with on usenet so they can attack
another poster with back up. It's called the pack mentality and is a sure
sign of lack of moral fibre and weakness.
~misfit~
> are insulting them. Biggie for you but some can't tolerate certain
> procedures or elements of pain or discomfort. Where in the hell do
> you get off telling them that they are wusses and implying that you
> are so big and strong and brave and courageous while they are
> inferiously weak and wimpy. You are
> a pathetic jerk, scum on the pond of humanity. I spent ten years in
> the
> US Marines,
Easy claim to make. I could say I was a member of NZ's SAS or whatever. In
fact you've just done what you wrote a paragraph accusing me of. LOL.
> what the hell were you doing, washing diapers (nappies)
> for Petey's babies?
Hmmm, you seem to have an unnatural fixation with daipers and "Petey's
babies" (whatever they are)..
> Tell us again how big and strong you are, and it
> is a pleasure to be told that you are a Grown Man. From your
> comments above
> one could not tell.
I can see that there's a lot that you probably can't tell.
~misfit~
Lying? It's enough that you prove yourself by resorting to argumentum ad
hominem without having to embellish.
> They put
> something up my backside, I want meds.
Why just meds? Wouldn't money do? ;-)
~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>> My uncle had this done in the '60's, and told me that they never
>>>> gave him freezing, or put him under. He fought like hell until he
>>>> finally gave in and put up with it. I wouldn't have been able to
>>>> do that.
>>>
>>> Wuss.
>>
>> LOL. I just saw that you started your reply the same way I did.
>> (Don't know why the "OT" was stripped from mine though.)
>
> I find it odd that you got chided for calling him a Wuss, and I did
> not. ;-)
Hehee! I thought that too.
> Must be 'cause I'm a girl?
Mmmm, that and probably 'cause you've been posting here longer than I have
and are obviously a far nicer peron. ;-)
> Women DO have a higher pain tolerance... but it honestly never did
> hurt. It was unpleasant (endoscopy down the throat) but hardly
> painful.
Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and screams
for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real pain.
Lou Decruss
<sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>Somewhere on teh intarwebs Omelet wrote:
>> In article <heac0q$eg3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>> They biopsied my stomach too. I think that's a normal part of the
>>>> procedure when they see something wrong.
>>>
>>> Not even if they see something wrong, It's standard to check for
>>> helicobacter pylori while they're there.
>>
>> Yes, and it was positive. But nowadays, there is a blood test for
>> that.
>
>
>Ahhh, that's probably quite new. Or at least I didn't know...
Did you land in this group because you saw cooking in the group name
or did you need something else?
Lou
Lou Decruss
<sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>And some people look for others to team up with on usenet so they can attack
>another poster with back up.
And some look for others to discuss food.
>It's called the pack mentality and is a sure
>sign of lack of moral fibre and weakness.
Yep Some gravitate in a direction and it takes them over. You seem to
fit in well with the pack that can't read the name of the group.
Lou
Dan Abel
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and screams
> for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real pain.
There are things a lot worse than pain. 'Nuff said.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
Lynn from Fargo
> In article <heccd0$8j...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and screams
> > for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real pain.
>
> There are things a lot worse than pain. 'Nuff said.
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
> da...@sonic.net
Not when it's MY pain, Bucko!
Lynn in Fargo
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> >> Not even if they see something wrong, It's standard to check for
> >> helicobacter pylori while they're there.
> >
> > Yes, and it was positive. But nowadays, there is a blood test for
> > that.
>
>
> Ahhh, that's probably quite new. Or at least I didn't know...
> --
> Shaun.
Here ya go:
H. pylori Antibody testing is more common now than ordering a biopsy.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> Opioids are about the most benign on drugs that we have in our arsenal
> against pain. The only side effects really are habituation (or addiction)
> and constipation (which can be largely handled by eating high fibre diets).
And extra magnesium supplements...
I don't care much for Opiods as they make one groggy and they also make
some people Nauseated.
But I guess it's better than living with so much pain that you cannot
function.
> Some of these new concoctions they've tried me on have all sorts of nasty
> side effects, some as bad as the pain they're treating. Yet because opioids
> have been demonised in the media and the public eye they are considered a
> drug of last resort. <shrug>
>
> It's really frustrating to have a really active mind but to be unable
> physically to do much... There's only so much 'mind control' I can exert
> over the pain before it exhausts me.
> --
> Cheers,
> Shaun.
I understand. It's why I'm so gung ho about physical therapy. My disk
degeneration is pretty advanced, especially in the Lumbar spine. If I
can stay more active and strengthen the muscles around the joints
(especially concentrating on core strength), I should be able to stay
more active.
A.R.T. therapy can be a little "uncomfortable" but it's mind over matter
with therapeutic pain. If I don't mind, it does not matter. <g> Dr.
Fluitt was pleased and surprised that he was actually able to help me
with the pain from the torn tendon in my right shoulder. He was hesitant
to try to treat it and only did it because I asked him nicely. <begged
actually <g>>.
It's working out. I'm only 47...
Active Release Technique is pretty much world wide. If you can find a
local practitioner, do look into it, then give it a little time to work.
:-)
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > They put
> > something up my backside, I want meds.
>
> Why just meds? Wouldn't money do? ;-)
> --
> Shaun.
<snicker>
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > Some Newsreaders do that.
> > I find it odd that you got chided for calling him a Wuss, and I did
> > not. ;-)
>
> Hehee! I thought that too.
>
> > Must be 'cause I'm a girl?
>
> Mmmm, that and probably 'cause you've been posting here longer than I have
> and are obviously a far nicer peron. ;-)
>
> > Women DO have a higher pain tolerance... but it honestly never did
> > hurt. It was unpleasant (endoscopy down the throat) but hardly
> > painful.
>
> Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and screams
> for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real pain.
> --
> Cheers,
> Shaun.
I think that was the part that got me. That he acted like a total baby
and threw a fit when there was no pain involved. It's people like him
that make nurse's lives a nightmare. Being uncooperative when YOU
consented to a procedure is just so immature.
Nobody was forcing him to have an endoscopy! All he had to do was say
"no" and not sign the paperwork.
garden-variety dick
> In article <heccd0$8j...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
> > > Some Newsreaders do that.
> > > I find it odd that you got chided for calling him a Wuss, and I did
> > > not. ;-)
>
> > Hehee! I thought that too.
>
> > > Must be 'cause I'm a girl?
>
> > Mmmm, that and probably 'cause you've been posting here longer than I have
> > and are obviously a far nicer peron. ;-)
>
> > > Women DO have a higher pain tolerance... but it honestly never did
> > > hurt. It was unpleasant (endoscopy down the throat) but hardly
> > > painful.
>
> > Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and screams
> > for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real pain.
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Shaun.
>
> I think that was the part that got me. That he acted like a total baby
> and threw a fit when there was no pain involved. It's people like him
> that make nurse's lives a nightmare. Being uncooperative when YOU
> consented to a procedure is just so immature.
>
Being uncooperative? I consented to have a procedure done with the
understanding that I would be given a short acting general
anesthetic. My you are an idiotic moron.
> Nobody was forcing him to have an endoscopy! All he had to do was say
> "no" and not sign the paperwork.
Your logic astounds me.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
You're not exactly peaceful.
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
> --Steve Rothstein
>
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garden-variety dick
It's very obvious that you are flaming for the sake of flaming. I
know you're full of shit, and you know you're full of shit. Even
omlete knows you're full of shit and she knows that she's full of
shit. And what's with the latin shit? You trying to impress me?
It's not working.
~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Opioids are about the most benign on drugs that we have in our
>> arsenal against pain. The only side effects really are habituation
>> (or addiction) and constipation (which can be largely handled by
>> eating high fibre diets).
>
> And extra magnesium supplements...
> I don't care much for Opiods as they make one groggy and they also
> make some people Nauseated.
>
> But I guess it's better than living with so much pain that you cannot
> function.
Yes, a two-edged sword. Some opiods are better than others when it comes to
inducing 'groggyness' but all do it to an extent. :-(
>> Some of these new concoctions they've tried me on have all sorts of
>> nasty side effects, some as bad as the pain they're treating. Yet
>> because opioids have been demonised in the media and the public eye
>> they are considered a drug of last resort. <shrug>
>>
>> It's really frustrating to have a really active mind but to be unable
>> physically to do much... There's only so much 'mind control' I can
>> exert over the pain before it exhausts me.
>
> I understand. It's why I'm so gung ho about physical therapy. My
> disk degeneration is pretty advanced, especially in the Lumbar spine.
> If I can stay more active and strengthen the muscles around the joints
> (especially concentrating on core strength), I should be able to stay
> more active.
Yup. When the pain allows (and sometimes when it doesn't) I excercise to
increase core strength.
> A.R.T. therapy can be a little "uncomfortable" but it's mind over
> matter with therapeutic pain.
Exactly. Similar to when I've had tattoos done. I've seen people getting
them who're wincing and squirming... I mean, really. How hard is it to
subliminate the pain for an hour or so?
> If I don't mind, it does not matter.
> <g> Dr. Fluitt was pleased and surprised that he was actually able to
> help me with the pain from the torn tendon in my right shoulder. He
> was hesitant to try to treat it and only did it because I asked him
> nicely. <begged actually <g>>.
>
> It's working out. I'm only 47...
Just a youngster then. <g>
> Active Release Technique is pretty much world wide. If you can find a
> local practitioner, do look into it, then give it a little time to
> work. :-)
I've just Googled and read a bit about it. I'd never heard of it before,
thanks for the heads-up. Probably out of my price range though.
~misfit~
Hi Lou. I was refered here by a regular actually. Once here I saw that OT
posts and threads are not only common but most every regular poster
contributes to them. Do you have a problem with my posts? I didn't start
this thread you know....
--
Cheers,
~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>> Not even if they see something wrong, It's standard to check for
>>>> helicobacter pylori while they're there.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it was positive. But nowadays, there is a blood test for
>>> that.
>>
>>
>> Ahhh, that's probably quite new. Or at least I didn't know...
>> --
>> Shaun.
>
> Here ya go:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ybyb28a
>
> H. pylori Antibody testing is more common now than ordering a biopsy.
Ya learn something new everyday! I guess they only did the biopsies with me
as they were there anyway for other reasons...
--
Cheers,
~misfit~
> <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>> And some people look for others to team up with on usenet so they
>> can attack another poster with back up.
>
> And some look for others to discuss food.
In a thread with the subject "Endoscopy's take 'em. You can have em"?
>> It's called the pack mentality and is a sure
>> sign of lack of moral fibre and weakness.
>
> Yep Some gravitate in a direction and it takes them over. You seem to
> fit in well with the pack that can't read the name of the group.
Lou, I understand your sentiment but not your contributing to this thread.
ie 'The Problem' as you see it.
I came here to discuss food but as everyone else seems to talk about
whatever talkes their fancy I joined in. However I notice that it's only me
that you seem to take issue with. Why didn't you berate the OP? What about
others who are contributing to the thread? You're being pretty selective,
chiding me twice but nobody else. <shrug>
~misfit~
> It's very obvious that you are flaming for the sake of flaming. I
> know you're full of shit, and you know you're full of shit. Even
> omlete knows you're full of shit and she knows that she's full of
> shit. And what's with the latin shit? You trying to impress me?
> It's not working.
Wow. Using the word 'shit' five times in one paragraph! I can see why you'd
resent my use of a Latin phrase, you're obviously barely literate.
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > If I don't mind, it does not matter.
> > <g> Dr. Fluitt was pleased and surprised that he was actually able to
> > help me with the pain from the torn tendon in my right shoulder. He
> > was hesitant to try to treat it and only did it because I asked him
> > nicely. <begged actually <g>>.
> >
> > It's working out. I'm only 47...
>
> Just a youngster then. <g>
Indeed. ;-) It's why I'm trying so hard.
I'm too young for this crap!
>
> > Active Release Technique is pretty much world wide. If you can find a
> > local practitioner, do look into it, then give it a little time to
> > work. :-)
>
> I've just Googled and read a bit about it. I'd never heard of it before,
> thanks for the heads-up. Probably out of my price range though.
> --
> Cheers,
> Shaun.
Doubtful. The Chiro's in my area only charge $80.00 per treatment and
many insurance plans now cover Chiropractic care.
Just be sure to hit the website and only use a _Certified_ ART provider!
That's important.
I discovered ART when I started studying up on Myofascial release
therapies. Soft tissue therapy really is good stuff... and I've been
pleasantly surprised by just how well (and how quickly) it has worked.
I'd been hurting from this for months, and the pain was only getting
worse. 3 weeks and 6 treatments later, I have a good 80% increase in
pain free range of motion, even in the shoulder with the complete tear.
Here is the main website:
They have a provider search engine on the site. ART is practiced world
wide.
~misfit~
>> In article heccd0$8j...@news.eternal-september.org,
>> "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>>> Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and
>>> screams for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real
>>> pain. --
>>
>> baby
>> and threw a fit when there was no pain involved. It's people like him
>> that make nurse's lives a nightmare. Being uncooperative when YOU
>> consented to a procedure is just so immature.
>
> Being uncooperative? I consented to have a procedure done with the
> understanding that I would be given a short acting general
> anesthetic. My you are an idiotic moron.
There you go again, attacking the person instead of just addressing the
subject.
>> Nobody was forcing him to have an endoscopy! All he had to do was say
>> "no" and not sign the paperwork.
>
> Your logic astounds me.
Perfectly understandable as you seem to lack the means to understand logic.
(That's observation, not ad hominem.)
>> Peace! Om
>
> You're not exactly peaceful.
Whereas you seem to be the type who would pick a fight with a Buddhist monk.
--
~misfit~
> In article <heccd0$8jq$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>> Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and
>> screams for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real
>> pain.
>
> There are things a lot worse than pain. 'Nuff said.
Heh! 'Nuff said indeed.
~misfit~
> "~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>> If I don't mind, it does not matter.
>>> <g> Dr. Fluitt was pleased and surprised that he was actually able
>>> to help me with the pain from the torn tendon in my right shoulder.
>>> He was hesitant to try to treat it and only did it because I asked
>>> him nicely. <begged actually <g>>.
>>>
>>> It's working out. I'm only 47...
>>
>> Just a youngster then. <g>
>
> Indeed. ;-) It's why I'm trying so hard.
> I'm too young for this crap!
Good attitude. I'm 48 and am also too young to be 'medically retired'.
>>> Active Release Technique is pretty much world wide. If you can find
>>> a local practitioner, do look into it, then give it a little time to
>>> work. :-)
>>
>> I've just Googled and read a bit about it. I'd never heard of it
>> before, thanks for the heads-up. Probably out of my price range
>> though. --
>
> Doubtful. The Chiro's in my area only charge $80.00 per treatment and
> many insurance plans now cover Chiropractic care.
Medical insurance I don't have. It isn't common in New Zealand (unless
you're 'rich') as we have a government funded health system. Alas, *they*
don't pay for anything outside of their own facilities. :-(
While I *could* swing the US$80 per visit for a few visits if I had to I
have lots of other things clamouring for any money I spend, such as dental
work etc.)
> Just be sure to hit the website and only use a _Certified_ ART
> provider! That's important.
>
> I discovered ART when I started studying up on Myofascial release
> therapies. Soft tissue therapy really is good stuff... and I've been
> pleasantly surprised by just how well (and how quickly) it has worked.
> I'd been hurting from this for months, and the pain was only getting
> worse. 3 weeks and 6 treatments later, I have a good 80% increase in
> pain free range of motion, even in the shoulder with the complete
> tear.
>
> Here is the main website:
>
> http://www.activerelease.com/
>
> They have a provider search engine on the site. ART is practiced world
> wide.
Cool, it's something to keep in mind, in case of a windfall. Thanks Om.
--
garden-variety dick
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs garden-variety dick wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > It's very obvious that you are flaming for the sake of flaming. I
> > know you're full of shit, and you know you're full of shit. Even
> > omlete knows you're full of shit and she knows that she's full of
> > shit. And what's with the latin shit? You trying to impress me?
> > It's not working.
>
> Wow. Using the word 'shit' five times in one paragraph! I can see why you'd
> resent my use of a Latin phrase, you're obviously barely literate.
> --
I'm glad you can count. You've proven it! Your use of latin
impresses me as well. You may at any time eat the peanuts out of my
shit. Consider yourself fortunate!
garden-variety dick
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs garden-variety dick wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 12:31 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> In article heccd0$8j...@news.eternal-september.org,
> >> "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> >>> Exactly. Uncomfortable yes. Painful? No way. If someone kicks and
> >>> screams for meds over that God alone knows how they'd handle real
> >>> pain. --
>
> >> I think that was the part that got me. That he acted like a total
> >> baby
> >> and threw a fit when there was no pain involved. It's people like him
> >> that make nurse's lives a nightmare. Being uncooperative when YOU
> >> consented to a procedure is just so immature.
>
> > Being uncooperative? I consented to have a procedure done with the
> > understanding that I would be given a short acting general
> > anesthetic. My you are an idiotic moron.
>
> There you go again, attacking the person instead of just addressing the
> subject.
>
You're a lying shitter misfit. And you know it, I know it and most
people here know it.
> >> Nobody was forcing him to have an endoscopy! All he had to do was say
> >> "no" and not sign the paperwork.
>
> > Your logic astounds me.
>
> Perfectly understandable as you seem to lack the means to understand logic.
> (That's observation, not ad hominem.)
>
> >> Peace! Om
>
> > You're not exactly peaceful.
>
> Whereas you seem to be the type who would pick a fight with a Buddhist monk.
> --
The shitting pig Omlete picked a fight with me, and so did you,
shitter.
Omelet
"~misfit~" <sore_n...@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
> > Indeed. ;-) It's why I'm trying so hard.
> > I'm too young for this crap!
>
>
> Good attitude. I'm 48 and am also too young to be 'medically retired'.
What happened to make you hurt so much Shaun?
I have a small excuse. Got clipped by a pickup truck in 1985 when I was
walking back to the student parking lot when I was a junior in college.
That was the start of all my problems. I walked away from it but two
hours later when I woke from a nap, I could hardly move.
I know how lucky I was. Hundreds are killed every year being hit by cars.
>
> Medical insurance I don't have. It isn't common in New Zealand (unless
> you're 'rich') as we have a government funded health system. Alas, *they*
> don't pay for anything outside of their own facilities. :-(
>
> While I *could* swing the US$80 per visit for a few visits if I had to I
> have lots of other things clamouring for any money I spend, such as dental
> work etc.)
Priorities I guess. I've not been to a dentist in well over 8 years, but
I'm blessed with good teeth. I still have all of them including the
wisdom teeth, but I've avoided sugar and soft drinks for years for a
start. Plus I think I got mom's genes. She still has most of her teeth
at 68 when she died. She'd lost two to badly done fillings. :-( I have
2 small fillings and 3 larger ones, 2 of those were done when I was 4
years old and got re-filled with gold when I was 21.
>
> > Just be sure to hit the website and only use a _Certified_ ART
> > provider! That's important.
> >
> > I discovered ART when I started studying up on Myofascial release
> > therapies. Soft tissue therapy really is good stuff... and I've been
> > pleasantly surprised by just how well (and how quickly) it has worked.
> > I'd been hurting from this for months, and the pain was only getting
> > worse. 3 weeks and 6 treatments later, I have a good 80% increase in
> > pain free range of motion, even in the shoulder with the complete
> > tear.
> >
> > Here is the main website:
> >
> > http://www.activerelease.com/
> >
> > They have a provider search engine on the site. ART is practiced world
> > wide.
>
> Cool, it's something to keep in mind, in case of a windfall. Thanks Om.
It's been more of a blessing for me than Airrosti was. While Airrosti
did help me a LOT, he did not finish the job. ART seems to be helping a
lot more, is less expensive and a LOT less painful.
I was doing home physical therapy using the exercises that the Ortho'
gave me to do and while I was getting some return of function, the pain
was only getting worse. 3 weeks and 6 ART treatments later, I've got
back about 80% more pain free range of motion than I had, but then those
damned bulging disks in my neck started acting up again and screwed up
my left arm.
Seems I just cannot win! :-(