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Christie  
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From: "Christie" <midnight@_nospam_comcen.com.au>
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: rice and milk
Does anyone else out there eat warm rice, covered in cold milk,
with a sprinkling of sugar and sometimes a dollop of cream? We
often eat our left over cooked rice in this way but I have never
come across anyone else who eats it in this way..anyone know
where it comes from?

Christie- President Mad Hatters Inc
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Lin Nah  
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From: l....@auckland.ac.nz (Lin Nah)
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: rice and milk
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:58:41 +1000, "Christie"

<midnight@_nospam_comcen.com.au> wrote:
>Does anyone else out there eat warm rice, covered in cold milk,
>with a sprinkling of sugar and sometimes a dollop of cream? We

sounds like rice pudding except done with cooked rice?

I also like rice cooked with coconut milk.  Nice with certain curries

Lin


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May's Pearls of Wisdom  
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From: May's Pearls of Wisdom <vecke...@kandinsky.hf.intel.com>
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: rice and milk
I use to eat it when I was a little kid in NYC but haven't had it
for years.  My mom would sprinkle cinnamon sugar on it.  Now that I
think of it, it was a comfort food.

May


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ann_onymous  
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From: "ann_onymous" <not_here@nor_there>
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Wow, I didn't think anyone else did this.  This is one of my comfort foods.
 You might want to try warming up the  milk first in the microwave, adding
some salt to the rice and milk mixture and even some sliced bananas.
Absolutely yummy.  I also like eating (on the side) some kind of sweet
sausage.

Christie <midnight@_nospam_comcen.com.au> wrote in article
<3619f07...@nexus.comcen.com.au>...
: Does anyone else out there eat warm rice, covered in cold milk,
: with a sprinkling of sugar and sometimes a dollop of cream? We
: often eat our left over cooked rice in this way but I have never
: come across anyone else who eats it in this way..anyone know
: where it comes from?
:
:
: Christie- President Mad Hatters Inc
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: "If you knew Time as well as I do," said the Hatter,
:  "you wouldn’t talk about wasting IT. It’s HIM."
:
:
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Nexis Robinson  
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From: "Nexis Robinson" <ne...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: rice and milk
I did...when I was a child...my mom used to make it with cinnamon and sugar
and the raisins we're in the rice. It was yummy!

kimberly


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A Boles  
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From: "A Boles" <bo...@escape.ca>
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Isn't this the same as rice pudding? Except the rice wouldn't be the type
used normally?

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May's Pearls of Wisdom  
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From: May's Pearls of Wisdom <vecke...@kandinsky.hf.intel.com>
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: rice and milk
No it's more like using the rice as a cereal with milk and sugar/cinnamon on
it.

May


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J&F Higham  
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From: "J&F Higham" <ma...@mak.com.au>
Date: 1998/10/07
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Yep.  Very common practice.  I suspect it originates from the good old
fashioned Rice Pudding which is probably British in origin.

1 oz rice, 9 tablespoons water, pinch salt, 1 and a half gills of milk (whic
roughly =3 oz or 3 tablespoons), 2 level tablespoons sugar, 1 egg, 3 drops
vanilla essence (the real stuff, not the artificial muck), 1 teaspoon
butter, nutmeg.

Rinse rice thoroughly in cold running water.  Put rice in boiling water,
cook gently till all water is absorbed.  Remove from heat, add sugar, milk
and vanilla.  Pour into a pie dish.  Grate nutmeg on top. place small dots
of the butter on top.  Stand pie dish in in a baking dish of cold water.
Bake in moderate oven about half an hour.  All measurements are Imperial.

--
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Stephen Brereton  
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From: "Stephen Brereton" <Twoho...@msn.com>
Date: 1998/10/07
Subject: Re: rice and milk

J&F Higham wrote in message <907690807.167...@genie.canberra.net.au>...
>Yep.  Very common practice.  I suspect it originates from the good old
>fashioned Rice Pudding which is probably British in origin.

<snip>

Many years ago my Welsh aunt used to make me rice pudding. She would cook it
on the stove instead of baking it in the usual way. She said it was an old
Welsh method of making rice pudding

 It was  approx 4 oz(UK) pudding rice (must be a short grained sticky type
rice, Arborio would do but pudding rice is better), about a pint of full fat
milk (UK), some raisins and currants, and a pinch of cinnamon. None of the
amounts are critical. The rice would be cooked in the milk for about 20 - 25
minutes, then the rest of the ingredients were added for another 5 - 10
minutes. Then it was ready.

The end result was a delicious and creamy moist pudding with sufficient
thick liquid left so that it was still just a bit runny. The final touch was
a big dollop of strawberry or blackcurrant jam placed on top of each pudding
which sank into the rice and only a small hint of what was there was
visible. It was always a huge hit.

Steve


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Christie  
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From: "Christie" <midnight@_nospam_comcen.com.au>
Date: 1998/10/07
Subject: Re: rice and milk
It was so cool to see all the responses..and no it isn't rice
pudding. We usually have this after we have cooked some plain
rice to have with a meal and find we have some left over. The
left over rice is then put into a bowl, you pour milk over it
like you would with cereal, sprinkle some sugar on it and then
sometimes a dollop of cream,  and eat it. You dont cook it any
further or anything like that..

Christie- President Mad Hatters Inc
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J&F Higham  
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From: "J&F Higham" <ma...@mak.com.au>
Date: 1998/10/07
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Christie

I know it isn't rice pud, but you asked where it came from.  As I said
before, my guess would be British cooking; cheap, filling, warming, comfort
food.  Shocking at its worst, wonderful at its best!

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C.L. Gifford  
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From: "C.L. Gifford" <sa...@concentric.net>
Date: 1998/10/07
Subject: Re: rice and milk

Christie wrote:

> Does anyone else out there eat warm rice, covered in cold milk,
> with a sprinkling of sugar and sometimes a dollop of cream? We
> often eat our left over cooked rice in this way but I have never
> come across anyone else who eats it in this way..anyone know
> where it comes from?

> Christie- President Mad Hatters Inc
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "If you knew Time as well as I do," said the Hatter,
>  "you wouldn’t talk about wasting IT. It’s HIM."

I used to eat this as a child. Except I had it with warm milk,
sugar and a pat of butter. It was a regular breakfast item - the
entire breadfast.

Liam

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A.Ferszt  
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From: "A.Ferszt" <a.fer...@nospam.ic.ac.uk>
Date: 1998/10/07
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Christie wrote:

> Does anyone else out there eat warm rice, covered in cold milk,
> with a sprinkling of sugar and sometimes a dollop of cream? We
> often eat our left over cooked rice in this way but I have never
> come across anyone else who eats it in this way..anyone know
> where it comes from?

> Christie- President Mad Hatters Inc

Absolutely! I also like it served with warm milk, sugar and a bit of
butter. I don't use cream, mostly 'cause I rarely have it in the house.
It's always been in our family, but I don't know the origins.

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ERay  
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From: ERay <ewors...@indy.net>
Date: 1998/10/08
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Add a whiff of cinnamon....


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Ayne St. Martin  
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From: "Ayne St. Martin" <o...@nsccux.sccd.ctc.edu>
Date: 1998/10/08
Subject: Re: rice and milk

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, J&F Higham wrote:
> Christie

> I know it isn't rice pud, but you asked where it came from.  As I said
> before, my guess would be British cooking; cheap, filling, warming, comfort
> food.  Shocking at its worst, wonderful at its best!

We ate this all the time as kids (I didn't have actual boxed cereal until
I was 12). My mom came here from Japan in her 20's, so although the
British may eat this, I would suspect the origins are from somewhere where
rice is cooked every night for dinner & the leftovers are used
up the next day in fried rice, rice balls and like this.

Ayne
o...@nsccux.sccd.ctc.edu


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G. M. Eckl  
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From: e...@isu.isunet.edu (G. M. Eckl)
Date: 1998/10/09
Subject: Re: rice and milk
And raisins


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 More options Oct 12 1998, 3:00 am
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From: Althea <alt...@naxs.com>
Date: 1998/10/12
Subject: Re: rice and milk
Nah, I prefer to cook the rice some more and turn it into pseudo-rice
pudding.  Too textured with just milk.  My stepdad used to eat it that
way, though.  He also ate cornbread with milk and sugar, and popcorn
with milk and sugar.  Talk about taking the term "cereals" literally!

When I have leftover plain rice, I usually melt in a little real butter
and put a tiny bit of Marmite in it.  Nice flavor.  And lots of B
vitamins.


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rhorn  
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From: rhor...@inreach.com (rhorn)
Date: 1998/10/12
Subject: Re: rice and milk
In article <362218E8.3...@naxs.com>, alt...@naxs.com says...

>Nah, I prefer to cook the rice some more and turn it into pseudo-rice
>pudding.  Too textured with just milk.  My stepdad used to eat it that
>way, though.  He also ate cornbread with milk and sugar, and popcorn
>with milk and sugar.  Talk about taking the term "cereals" literally!

I think this is a mid-western thang.
My mother, from Oklahoma, would crumble day old cornbread into a glass of
buttermilk. YUCK. Only thing buttermilk is good for is cooking

On the other hand I enjoy hot cooked rice w/butter, cream and a bit of sugar.
Do the same w/grits.
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S.Dunlap  
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From: "S.Dunlap" <malc...@gte.net>
Date: 1998/10/12
Subject: Re: rice and milk

rhorn wrote in message ...
>In article <362218E8.3...@naxs.com>, alt...@naxs.com says...
>>with milk and sugar.  Talk about taking the term "cereals" literally!

>I think this is a mid-western thang.
>My mother, from Oklahoma, would crumble day old cornbread into a glass of
>buttermilk. YUCK. Only thing buttermilk is good for is cooking

Cornbread crumbled into buttermilk is known as "Crumblin'" in Texas. I think
this is a southern thing more than a midwestern thing. I have friends for
Georgia who also use up their day old cornbread this way.

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Kat Tanaka  
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From: Kat Tanaka <"kat"@vincent(dash)tanaka.com>
Date: 1998/10/13
Subject: Re: rice and milk

I wasn't going to comment on this, but Ack.  Gack.  Pflegh.

(convulsing at the thought of Japanese rice and milk)

P'raps your mom is very unusual, if you got the recipe from her.

She would be the only Japanese person older than 20 or 30 that
I've ever heard of even thinking about mixing milk and rice in
that manner.  I'll put rice into a creamed soup (cream of mushroom
and rice, for example).  But with sugar?

I'm firmly in the "rice as a savory" camp, and the closest I'll
get to rice pudding is horchata, or tapioca pudding.

I'll let Steve (in Osaka) tell us if the shinjinrui (the young
and wacky) have decided that it's the next logical step to
cheese on your mochi (again, IMHO, blech)...

What a wonderful diverse world...(My mother puts fish flakes
in her oatmeal, just like she would in o-kayu (rice porridge)).

Kat Tanaka


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From: "Barry" <b....@bigfoot.munged.com>
Date: 1998/10/13
Subject: Re: rice and milk

>Does anyone else out there eat warm rice, covered in cold milk,
>with a sprinkling of sugar and sometimes a dollop of cream? We

Warm rice brown sugar, sprinkle of cinnamon and just enough milk to wet it.

barry


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From: "Alex" <MiraB...@msn.com>
Date: 1998/10/14
Subject: Re: rice and milk
My German relatives do this.  It is part of their main meal and done on
special occasions as it is quite fattening.


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Ayne St. Martin  
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From: "Ayne St. Martin" <o...@nsccux.sccd.ctc.edu>
Date: 1998/10/16
Subject: Re: rice and milk

Sorry, but you generalize too much. My Mom is 73. My grandmother is 96,
and she eats it too. Maybe it isn't
common in your famliy, but my numerous
relatives tend to enjoy lots of sweet thing like this. (My mom's
the only one in the US - the rest remain in Nagoya, Kyoto, Osaka & Tokyo.)
What they don't like at all is dairy products, especially cheese.

Ayne
o...@nsccux.sccd.ctc.edu


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Kat Tanaka  
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From: Kat Tanaka <"kat"@vincent(dash)tanaka.com>
Date: 1998/10/16
Subject: Re: rice and milk

"Ayne St. Martin" wrote:

> Sorry, but you generalize too much. My Mom is 73. My grandmother is 96,
> and she eats it too. Maybe it isn't
> common in your famliy, but my numerous
> relatives tend to enjoy lots of sweet thing like this. (My mom's
> the only one in the US - the rest remain in Nagoya, Kyoto, Osaka & Tokyo.)
> What they don't like at all is dairy products, especially cheese.

You're right, I did generalize.  A LOT.

But I'm a little confused by your comment about "sweet things".

My family loves pastries, etc. but NOT MIXED WITH RICE.

Now, there are lots of Japanese sweet rice recipes, but those are
not with milk.

Wagashi is an example of mochi-gome and sweetening, and o-hagi
does have plain rice with mochi-gome, but "milk + gohan" isn't all
that common, IMHO.

And the presence in your family of this dish only indicates that it's
common in your family.  I wasn't trying to insult your family, more
marvelling at the diversity that's out there.

My sample was taken from Japanese families in my acquaintance, not
only my own, and at least in the U.S., the "dis-preference" (coined
word) of Japanese for milk mixed with rice is documented.  See stories
in WWII internment camps.

What can I say, though, palates differ widely, and what's done to
Western cuisines in Japan evokes horror in others...Corn on Pizza,
for ex.  Fusion cooking can be fun.  Mentai-spaghetti.  Thai BBQ
pizza.

Sorry if I caused distress.  Wasn't my intention.

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From: btsl...@poboxes.com
Date: 1998/10/17
Subject: Re: rice and milk

Hi Ayne,
   I missed the original post from you.  From the edited pieces here
it sounds like leftover rice used as cereal with milk and sugar
for breakfast.  That was a staple when I was a child. I still
like it but seldom have the leftover rice as now I cook only
just enough.  If more to it than that, and I suspect there is,
would you repost it or email it to me?

Respectfully... The Paperboy


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