> On 7/9/2012 5:17 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2012-07-10, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>> much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl.
>>> Yikes! I can see why. Now I know why I've never been to Hawaii and
>>> why I'll die a happy man having never been. Screw that! 8|
>> Spiders are no big deal. It's the centipedes
>> you gotta watch out for. About a foot long,
>> run like the wind, and a very nasty bite.
> This place had an explosion in the chicken population about 5 years > age. There was buirds everywhere. Most folks don't like the males > making all that noise but chickens eat the centipedes. I hate > centipedes. I think the wild chicken population has caused a spike in > the births of wild cats and now the population is in equilibrium i.e., > there's a shit-load of cats around here. The other day, we saw a most > peculiar cat. It looked like it was angry. It was spooky but we all > laughed our guts out. That cat's gonna have a hard life.
Can you give a very general idea of whare you live in Hawaii?
On Jul 9, 5:41 am, dsi1 <d...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> I have never heard that these giant 747s, aka B-52s, aka American
> cockroaches was incapable of flight. These bugs have a nasty habit of
> flying overhead in our houses causing much yelling from the womenfolk
> and everyone ducking for cover. You haven't lived until you've felt the
> beating of giant roach wings as it buzzes by your ear or woken up by a
> giant bug walking on your legs in the middle of the night. I hate when
> that happens - nasty!
While not a cockroach expert I do know that the typical american
household cockroach is called the german cockroach, and the big low-to-
the-ground pus-bellied winged creepers are called american cockroaches
because they come from this hemisphere
I do not have a cockroach problem where I live now, but have
lived in rented apartments all my life and never till now did I know
what it is like to turn on the kitchen lights and not see a number of
roaches scatter for safety. But the big ones we're talking about - I
have never been inundated with those. I might see one here once a
year on average. I guess they come from outside, even though I live
on the 3rd floor. They may also come through the pipes. I would not
find it easy to live with those big boys.
Now please understand, I spent 3 months on two separate
occasions staying with my aunt in Jamaica in an 100 year old house
near an ocean cliff. Giant crabs (by my standards), would sometimes
be found in the tub, and insects of all kinds abounded. The huge
cockroaches were there to the point where you couldn't go a day
without seeing at least a few. I have never seen one take off to
fly. I have heard them buzz by me on the way to the floor, probably
after clinging and then falling from a wall or ceiling. I am not
arguing the case because as I said, I'm no expert - but I lived that
experience down there and have seen enough of the big boys on other
occasions to know that not once have I see one take up from a low spot
and go higher, I have only seen they "fly" from high to low. This
does not mean such creatures don't exist, but if we're talking about
the same creature, I'm sorry, I contend they can't fly any more than a
flying squirrel, which also cannot "take off" into flight, but are
able to fly on the way down to soften their landing.
On Jul 9, 8:52 pm, Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> That's what you need a cat for. Mine earn their keep best by keeping
> flying insects at bay. Though the only ones I get are moths that sneak
> in and the occasional house fly that ends up with a shorter than normal
> life span. I get more spiders in here than flying insects and my cats
> tire of them quickly because the spiders are mostly just seen on the
> ceilings and cats have quit trying to figure out how to get up there.
Put your cat in a sling shot and aim it to the ceiling, just
hard enough to get there, yet soft enough to snag the spider without
mashing it to the ceiling. Help your cat. There must be a way you
can help you cat get up there. Perhaps (since cockroaches fly), we
could build some kind of flying contraption out of them - some sort of
flying roach harness to put on your cat - then somehow teach your cat
on command to whip the flying roaches into flight - just high enough
to paw-snatch the spider off the ceiling. The cockroaches are then
unharnessed and placed in a nearby escape-free aquarium to be kept
until a need to put them to use arises.
>> I have never heard that these giant 747s, aka B-52s, aka American
>> cockroaches was incapable of flight. These bugs have a nasty habit of
>> flying overhead in our houses causing much yelling from the womenfolk
>> and everyone ducking for cover. You haven't lived until you've felt the
>> beating of giant roach wings as it buzzes by your ear or woken up by a
>> giant bug walking on your legs in the middle of the night. I hate when
>> that happens - nasty!
>That's what you need a cat for. Mine earn their keep best by keeping >flying insects at bay. Though the only ones I get are moths that sneak >in and the occasional house fly that ends up with a shorter than normal >life span. I get more spiders in here than flying insects and my cats >tire of them quickly because the spiders are mostly just seen on the >ceilings and cats have quit trying to figure out how to get up there.
You know... I never cared for cats..... but your having given another reason for
their existence, other than mousing. Kinda makes me feel a bit better of them.
>>> I have never heard that these giant 747s, aka B-52s, aka American
>>> cockroaches was incapable of flight. These bugs have a nasty habit of
>>> flying overhead in our houses causing much yelling from the womenfolk
>>> and everyone ducking for cover. You haven't lived until you've felt the
>>> beating of giant roach wings as it buzzes by your ear or woken up by a
>>> giant bug walking on your legs in the middle of the night. I hate when
>>> that happens - nasty!
>> That's what you need a cat for. Mine earn their keep best by keeping
>> flying insects at bay. Though the only ones I get are moths that sneak
>> in and the occasional house fly that ends up with a shorter than normal
>> life span. I get more spiders in here than flying insects and my cats
>> tire of them quickly because the spiders are mostly just seen on the
>> ceilings and cats have quit trying to figure out how to get up there.
>Cats are great. My cat would line up big roaches on the doorstep - >they're so freaking proud of their hunting skills that they just have to >show off. Too bad my wife is allergic to dander. We do have a dog >however. Cats will carefully plan their avenue of attack while our dog >just goes ape-shit all over the place. The real value of a dog is when >they kill big, hairy, cane spiders in our home. Roaches don't bug me too >much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl. All I >have to do is say "KILL KINA KILL!!!" and that spider is dead meat. Nice >work girl!
You lived in the big 'a city..... Yah needed a DOG in your apartment...
Thankfully, our temps are back to the 80's again-two days later the
indoors temp is down to 68. It is a blessing we had no humidity thru
this heat spell.
I saw my first roach when I was 21 sharing a summer sublet during
college-terrifying. I was already terrified of hornets and wasps.
This past week as I try to get in my car to go to work I am being buzzed
by an enormous dragonfly who is clearly protecting territory. I am sure
I look quite insane shrieking flapping my arms and running away from my
car :-)
> This past week as I try to get in my car to go to work I am being buzzed
> by an enormous dragonfly who is clearly protecting territory. I am sure
> I look quite insane shrieking flapping my arms and running away from my
> car :-)
lol!
Too bad no one was filming so it could be put on youtube.
> Cats are great. My cat would line up big roaches on the doorstep -
> they're so freaking proud of their hunting skills that they just have to
> show off. Too bad my wife is allergic to dander. We do have a dog
> however. Cats will carefully plan their avenue of attack while our dog
> just goes ape-shit all over the place. The real value of a dog is when
> they kill big, hairy, cane spiders in our home. Roaches don't bug me too
> much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl. All I
> have to do is say "KILL KINA KILL!!!" and that spider is dead meat. Nice
> work girl!
Aw, they don't look so hairy! I had to look them up and my first thought was they don't look scary, then I saw where it said they are 3-4" across. Ick! But it also says they rarely bite.
http://www.instanthawaii.com/cgi-bin/hawaii?Animals.cane
>> On 7/9/2012 5:17 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2012-07-10, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>> much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl.
>>>> Yikes! I can see why. Now I know why I've never been to Hawaii and
>>>> why I'll die a happy man having never been. Screw that! 8|
>>> Spiders are no big deal. It's the centipedes
>>> you gotta watch out for. About a foot long,
>>> run like the wind, and a very nasty bite.
>> This place had an explosion in the chicken population about 5 years
>> age. There was buirds everywhere. Most folks don't like the males
>> making all that noise but chickens eat the centipedes. I hate
>> centipedes. I think the wild chicken population has caused a spike in
>> the births of wild cats and now the population is in equilibrium i.e.,
>> there's a shit-load of cats around here. The other day, we saw a most
>> peculiar cat. It looked like it was angry. It was spooky but we all
>> laughed our guts out. That cat's gonna have a hard life.
> Can you give a very general idea of whare you live in Hawaii?
Kaneohe, on the windward side of the island of Oahu. It's kind of interesting geographically because on one side we live at the foot of a tall mountain range and on the other, a huge bay.
> On Jul 9, 5:41 am, dsi1 <d...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>> I have never heard that these giant 747s, aka B-52s, aka American
>> cockroaches was incapable of flight. These bugs have a nasty habit of
>> flying overhead in our houses causing much yelling from the womenfolk
>> and everyone ducking for cover. You haven't lived until you've felt the
>> beating of giant roach wings as it buzzes by your ear or woken up by a
>> giant bug walking on your legs in the middle of the night. I hate when
>> that happens - nasty!
> While not a cockroach expert I do know that the typical american
> household cockroach is called the german cockroach, and the big low-to-
> the-ground pus-bellied winged creepers are called american cockroaches
> because they come from this hemisphere
> I do not have a cockroach problem where I live now, but have
> lived in rented apartments all my life and never till now did I know
> what it is like to turn on the kitchen lights and not see a number of
> roaches scatter for safety. But the big ones we're talking about - I
> have never been inundated with those. I might see one here once a
> year on average. I guess they come from outside, even though I live
> on the 3rd floor. They may also come through the pipes. I would not
> find it easy to live with those big boys.
> Now please understand, I spent 3 months on two separate
> occasions staying with my aunt in Jamaica in an 100 year old house
> near an ocean cliff. Giant crabs (by my standards), would sometimes
> be found in the tub, and insects of all kinds abounded. The huge
> cockroaches were there to the point where you couldn't go a day
> without seeing at least a few. I have never seen one take off to
> fly. I have heard them buzz by me on the way to the floor, probably
> after clinging and then falling from a wall or ceiling. I am not
> arguing the case because as I said, I'm no expert - but I lived that
> experience down there and have seen enough of the big boys on other
> occasions to know that not once have I see one take up from a low spot
> and go higher, I have only seen they "fly" from high to low. This
> does not mean such creatures don't exist, but if we're talking about
> the same creature, I'm sorry, I contend they can't fly any more than a
> flying squirrel, which also cannot "take off" into flight, but are
> able to fly on the way down to soften their landing.
I assume that we're talking about different critters. These guys are from the outside. My guess is that when the time and temperature is right, they swarm. Typically what happens is that a family will be relaxing at home and one of these 747s will fly into the house completely disrupting the scene. All activities are stopped and not resumed until this big bug is either killed or captured. I used to flush them down the toilet but these days I'll just take them outside. You'd think we would be able to live with bugs after all these years. Nope.
On Jul 10, 3:23 am, dsi1 <d...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> Kaneohe, on the windward side of the island of Oahu. It's kind of
> interesting geographically because on one side we live at the foot of a
> tall mountain range and on the other, a huge bay.
Other than a rock avalanche or a tsunami it sounds like you've got
it made.
>> On 7/9/2012 2:52 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 7/9/2012 5:41 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> I have never heard that these giant 747s, aka B-52s, aka American
>>>> cockroaches was incapable of flight. These bugs have a nasty habit of
>>>> flying overhead in our houses causing much yelling from the womenfolk
>>>> and everyone ducking for cover. You haven't lived until you've felt the
>>>> beating of giant roach wings as it buzzes by your ear or woken up by a
>>>> giant bug walking on your legs in the middle of the night. I hate when
>>>> that happens - nasty!
>>> That's what you need a cat for. Mine earn their keep best by keeping
>>> flying insects at bay. Though the only ones I get are moths that sneak
>>> in and the occasional house fly that ends up with a shorter than normal
>>> life span. I get more spiders in here than flying insects and my cats
>>> tire of them quickly because the spiders are mostly just seen on the
>>> ceilings and cats have quit trying to figure out how to get up there.
>> Cats are great. My cat would line up big roaches on the doorstep -
>> they're so freaking proud of their hunting skills that they just have to
>> show off. Too bad my wife is allergic to dander. We do have a dog
>> however. Cats will carefully plan their avenue of attack while our dog
>> just goes ape-shit all over the place. The real value of a dog is when
>> they kill big, hairy, cane spiders in our home. Roaches don't bug me too
>> much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl. All I
>> have to do is say "KILL KINA KILL!!!" and that spider is dead meat. Nice
>> work girl!
> You lived in the big 'a city..... Yah needed a DOG in your apartment...
They sure are handy although I live in a medium sized town.
>> just goes ape-shit all over the place. The real value of a dog is when
>> they kill big, hairy, cane spiders in our home. Roaches don't bug me too
>> much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl. All I
>> have to do is say "KILL KINA KILL!!!" and that spider is dead meat. Nice
>> work girl!
> Are those the black ones with the bright yellow
> patch on the back? Those were the biggest spiders
> I saw in Hawaii. The second biggest were similar,
> but had a bright orange patch.
I can't say that I've ever seen one of those but that's a good thing. They sound like something you would see in a rainforest. The cane spider dwells in homes and is a most terrifying creature although, I've never heard that they're capable of even biting a human. The story is pretty much the same as for flying Hawaiian roaches. Hunt down and kill. Arachnophobia is strong in this state.
> On 7/9/2012 9:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Cats are great. My cat would line up big roaches on the doorstep -
>> they're so freaking proud of their hunting skills that they just have to
>> show off. Too bad my wife is allergic to dander. We do have a dog
>> however. Cats will carefully plan their avenue of attack while our dog
>> just goes ape-shit all over the place. The real value of a dog is when
>> they kill big, hairy, cane spiders in our home. Roaches don't bug me too
>> much but a cane spider will make me withdraw like a little girl. All I
>> have to do is say "KILL KINA KILL!!!" and that spider is dead meat. Nice
>> work girl!
> Aw, they don't look so hairy! I had to look them up and my first
> thought was they don't look scary, then I saw where it said they are
> 3-4" across. Ick! But it also says they rarely bite.
> http://www.instanthawaii.com/cgi-bin/hawaii?Animals.cane
You outta see one in person! I like the part where they say it's about the size of tuna. Hopefully, it ain't one of those Costco size cans. :-)
> On Jul 10, 3:23 am, dsi1 <d...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>> Kaneohe, on the windward side of the island of Oahu. It's kind of
>> interesting geographically because on one side we live at the foot of a
>> tall mountain range and on the other, a huge bay.
> Other than a rock avalanche or a tsunami it sounds like you've got
> it made.
> TJ
The mountain range is being eroded which is the reason the sides are so steep but I've never heard of the sides of the mountain coming down. Maybe it only happens every hundred thousand years or so. In about thirty million years, this island will just be an atoll or perhaps completely submerged beneath the sea.
If there's a big tsunami, I go to the state hospital which is about a mile and a half from here. From that elevated position, we'd get a view of a killer tsunami. Goodie!
> On Jul 10, 3:23 am, dsi1 <d...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> > Kaneohe, on the windward side of the island of Oahu. It's kind of
> > interesting geographically because on one side we live at the foot of a
> > tall mountain range and on the other, a huge bay.
> Other than a rock avalanche or a tsunami it sounds like you've got
> it made.
> TJ
LOL! Good one, TJ! ;)
I did a google image search for Kaneohe.
Looks like paradise on earth to me, except for the large roaches and giant spiders. heheh
On 2012-07-10, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> The best thing about this place is that it ain't got no snakes or > alligators. Thank ya Jesus!
I can take snakes n' gators, tigers and bears. Even rats and
cockroaches (ick), but spiders jes plain give me the heebee-jeebies.
Creep me out to no end. I can look and be scientifically fascinated
by them, but if one lands on me or gets near me, like you, I'll scream
like a little girl. I've actually had spider nightmares and won't
even watch movies with spiders in them. (shudder)
I once got in my car and was getting settled in for my morning 45 min
commute, when a little bitty spider dropped n' stopped right in front
of my face on a single web strand from the over-head sun visor. If
Ida been driving, I woulda no-doubt died in a flaming tangle of steel!
As it was I merely had a near coronary/stroke. ;)
> Other than a rock avalanche or a tsunami it sounds like you've got
> it made.
All of Hawaii is lava rock. Even what passes for soil
is ground-up lava rock, and there isn't very much of it.
You don't have landslides or avalanches in lava rock.
Nor sinkholes, mudslides, etc. You may as well be
living on concrete. (Lava tube collapses do occur,
but I believe that's only with recent lava, which is
only on the big island, not Oahu.)
> All of Hawaii is lava rock. Even what passes for soil
> is ground-up lava rock, and there isn't very much of it.
> You don't have landslides or avalanches in lava rock.
> Nor sinkholes, mudslides, etc. You may as well be
> living on concrete. (Lava tube collapses do occur,
> but I believe that's only with recent lava, which is
> only on the big island, not Oahu.)
Bike riding would probably be very interesting at first, but seem you would run out of places to go. I like to live somewhere I can explore new places on a bike.
>> .....you break into a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 A.M.
> That's happened to me each day for the last two weeks and I go out at 6am.
> This morning at 4am it was 86F and humid. I'm so over this nonsense.
I like to go for a 10-15 mile bicycle ride every day. Last week I had to get up early and get out on the bike before it got too hot. It has been a little cooler the last couple days. I was out twice this morning. Once just for the sake of riding and the second to get some milk. It was hot enough to work up a good sweat, but it is still under 80F.
