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Bryan

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May 18, 2013, 2:29:40 PM5/18/13
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So I did something different with seasoning the fried chicken.
3 T Penzey's Adobo seasoning
1 T Penzey's Northwoods seasoning.
1 T very finely ground salt
1/2 t MSG
about 2/3 cup of all purpose flour

My son said he liked it better than the way I usually make it.

--Bryan

sf

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May 18, 2013, 4:44:47 PM5/18/13
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Have you ever tried chilie lime seasoning? I think that would work
too. http://www.tajin.com/en-us/clasico-polvo


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Saltfatsugarxpert

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May 22, 2013, 10:07:40 PM5/22/13
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Is Tiger Woods coming for dinner?

gregz

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May 22, 2013, 11:40:50 PM5/22/13
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I have a giant jar of cayenne from local packer, sold at my grocery for
cheap
I used my last bit of Scotts BBQ sauce tonight. Just mixed up a batch, with
vinegar and water. Cayenne, black pepper. Mrs. Dash, paprika. I think I
need more vinegar, and probably some salt.

Greg

Brooklyn1

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May 23, 2013, 9:07:02 AM5/23/13
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>Bryan <bryanGAYsimmons> wrote:
>> So I did something different with seasoning the fried chicken.
>> 3 T Penzey's Adobo seasoning
>> 1 T Penzey's Northwoods seasoning.

>> 1 T very finely ground salt
>> 1/2 t MSG

>> about 2/3 cup of all purpose flour

That's an enormous quantity of sodium... and the first ingredient
listed in Northwoods Seasoning is flake salt.

Nunya Bidnits

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May 23, 2013, 1:01:19 PM5/23/13
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If you want to taste seasoning in a dry coating for frying, it takes a ton
to even taste it. Far better to season the meat before coating it.

MartyB

Colt T

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May 23, 2013, 1:41:20 PM5/23/13
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I empty a cayenne capsule into my 1/2 glass of tomato juice, the bottle
I opened a few days ago smells like cayenne but isn't hot at all.

bigwheel

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May 23, 2013, 6:07:40 PM5/23/13
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'Bryan[_6_ Wrote:
> ;1835080']So I did something different with seasoning the fried
All cayenne pepper has to offer is heat. So unless somebody likes hot
stuff should not hurt to omit it or sub it out for black pepper which is
packed with good flavor. Would also suggest omitting the Msg. Appears to
be highly dangerous stuff..ranks high on the killer scale right next to
high fructose corn syrup. Would suggest heading to the trash with it.

'Discovery Health \"The Dangers of Monosodium Glutamate\"'
(http://tinyurl.com/d8wl3g2)




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Nunya Bidnits

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May 24, 2013, 5:35:54 PM5/24/13
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jay <us...@example.net> wrote:
> In article <bigwheel.be...@foodbanter.com>,
> A salt injection. "Seasonings" are usually mostly salt and then SALT
> and then MSG. Congratulations you made some SALTY chicken.
>
> jay

In any case the hysteria over MSG is just that. You can find people with
just about any malady under the sun who have chosen to believe that MSG
caused it. I bet somewhere in this country is someone who got hit by a bus
and blamed MSG. No amount of evidence or statistical data will deter them
from their belief of choice. .

MartyB

Kalmia

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May 24, 2013, 5:36:20 PM5/24/13
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Ran OUT? I think I am probably on still my second container in over 40 years of housekeeping. Using it up, a dash at a time.

sf

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May 24, 2013, 5:49:20 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
<tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:

> Ran OUT? I think I am probably on still my second container in over 40 years of housekeeping. Using it up, a dash at a time.

I didn't buy cayenne for decades, but I finally did - I've already
gone through my first bottle and I'm on to the next.

Dave Smith

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May 24, 2013, 6:19:11 PM5/24/13
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On 24/05/2013 5:35 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:

>
> In any case the hysteria over MSG is just that. You can find people with
> just about any malady under the sun who have chosen to believe that MSG
> caused it. I bet somewhere in this country is someone who got hit by a
> bus and blamed MSG. No amount of evidence or statistical data will deter
> them from their belief of choice. .
>

My Sore Guts

When I was working we often went out for dinner, often to our favourite
Chinese restaurant. A couple times we went to it's cheaper competition.
They used a lot of MSG and they had a Thursday night special for $4.25
(this was a few years ago). There was a race back to our station. We
had only one toilet. I had that job for 18 years and we only went to
that place twice. The MSG reaction was fast and it hit all of us.


Dave Smith

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May 24, 2013, 6:22:02 PM5/24/13
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On 24/05/2013 5:49 PM, sf wrote:

> I didn't buy cayenne for decades, but I finally did - I've already
> gone through my first bottle and I'm on to the next.
>

I should get some fresher cayenne. Someone threw a kitchen shower for my
wife and one of the gifts was spices, including some cayenne. That was
40 years ago and we are still working on it. I should get some fresh
stuff but I will have to be careful. It will be a lot more pronounced
than the 40 year old stuff.

Nunya Bidnits

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May 24, 2013, 6:28:58 PM5/24/13
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But absent any analysis of the food at the cheap joint, the more likely
problem is that they wre serving old food under unsanitary conditions and
that's how they kept the price down. Happens a lot. Not sure how you know
exactly how much MSG was in the food because it tastes like salt. If you
base that analysis on the outcome then it's simply conjecture. There are
people with MSG sensitivity (not allergy) but that is far from universal so
the fact of everyone having the same symptoms at the same time logically
seems to have some other cause, or else you have a statstical anomaly going
on if there is 100% MSG sensitivity in your employee group.

MartyB

Bryan

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May 25, 2013, 6:43:56 AM5/25/13
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On Friday, May 24, 2013 4:36:20 PM UTC-5, Kalmia wrote:
> Ran OUT? I think I am probably on still my second container in over 40 years of housekeeping. Using it up, a dash at a time.

I bought a container of MSG that is about half the size of a Kraft Parmesan thing maybe 5 years ago, and don't expect to buy another for a long time, if ever. Now cayenne is the opposite. I use the shit out of that. I bought a pound at Penzey's yesterday, and figure that's going to last about a year or so. I like the way that they package in 4 oz bags, but give a discount if you buy two or four of them. Keeps fresher that way.

--Bryan

dsi1

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May 25, 2013, 7:45:43 AM5/25/13
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The thing is that Chinese food contains a bunch of things that people
don't usually eat. It's way too easy to blame the usual suspect that
everybody thinks is guilty. My guess is that your reaction could have
been from mycotoxins in the rice.

dsi1

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May 25, 2013, 7:50:21 AM5/25/13
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On 5/24/2013 11:49 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> Ran OUT? I think I am probably on still my second container in over 40 years of housekeeping. Using it up, a dash at a time.
>
> I didn't buy cayenne for decades, but I finally did - I've already
> gone through my first bottle and I'm on to the next.
>

You might like Korean chili pepper powder. I like it because of it's
beautiful deep red color and unusual fine grind. That stuff is almost as
fine as flour. Neat!

Dave Smith

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May 25, 2013, 8:29:15 AM5/25/13
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On 25/05/2013 7:45 AM, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> My Sore Guts
>>
>> When I was working we often went out for dinner, often to our favourite
>> Chinese restaurant. A couple times we went to it's cheaper competition.
>> They used a lot of MSG and they had a Thursday night special for $4.25
>> (this was a few years ago). There was a race back to our station. We
>> had only one toilet. I had that job for 18 years and we only went to
>> that place twice. The MSG reaction was fast and it hit all of us.
>>
>>
>
> The thing is that Chinese food contains a bunch of things that people
> don't usually eat. It's way too easy to blame the usual suspect that
> everybody thinks is guilty. My guess is that your reaction could have
> been from mycotoxins in the rice.

Yeahbut.... we used to eat Chinese food frequently. We used to eat at
the Chinese place across the road from that one a couple times a week.
It wasn't like we were were newly exposed to Chinese ingredients, and we
were eating standard Cantonese fair, nothing exotic. We all used
reactions to the high level of MSG they used.

sf

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May 25, 2013, 10:22:06 AM5/25/13
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I don't think I've ever noticed it, but I'll look for it now that I
know it exists. I have a huge tub of that Korean chili paste now, so
I won't be needing it any time soon. :)

sf

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May 25, 2013, 10:23:04 AM5/25/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 03:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I like the way that they package in 4 oz bags, but give a discount if you buy two or four of them. Keeps fresher that way.

Do you store them in the refrigerator or freezer? I would.

cshenk

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May 25, 2013, 2:38:33 PM5/25/13
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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Nope, the other places had MSG as well. Same levels.

You got some bad food is all.

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Dave Smith

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May 25, 2013, 3:35:38 PM5/25/13
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On 25/05/2013 2:38 PM, cshenk wrote:
reaction could have been from mycotoxins in the rice.
>>
>> Yeahbut.... we used to eat Chinese food frequently. We used to eat at
>> the Chinese place across the road from that one a couple times a
>> week. It wasn't like we were were newly exposed to Chinese
>> ingredients, and we were eating standard Cantonese fair, nothing
>> exotic. We all used reactions to the high level of MSG they used.
>
> Nope, the other places had MSG as well. Same levels.
>
> You got some bad food is all.
>

Oh? We ate there twice and the gastric effects were very quick, but,
thankfully, short lived.

dsi1

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May 25, 2013, 4:43:48 PM5/25/13
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On 5/25/2013 2:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Yeahbut.... we used to eat Chinese food frequently. We used to eat at
> the Chinese place across the road from that one a couple times a week.
> It wasn't like we were were newly exposed to Chinese ingredients, and we
> were eating standard Cantonese fair, nothing exotic. We all used
> reactions to the high level of MSG they used.
>

I understand what you're saying however, if I got sick after eating at a
Chinese restaurant, MSG would be the last thing that I'd consider being
the culprit. My number one rule of Chinese restaurant is to avoid
finding out what goes on in the kitchens at all cost.

dsi1

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May 25, 2013, 4:51:37 PM5/25/13
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On 5/25/2013 4:22 AM, sf wrote:
>
> I don't think I've ever noticed it, but I'll look for it now that I
> know it exists. I have a huge tub of that Korean chili paste now, so
> I won't be needing it any time soon. :)
>

It's sold in Korean markets in big bags and is relatively cheap. The
Koreans must eat a lot of it! Make sure you get the fine powder. I was
somewhat disappointed that it's not as hot as I though it would be but
you're just going to use more of the stuff. If you use it in bread
dough, it turns out a funky orange.

dsi1

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May 25, 2013, 4:52:35 PM5/25/13
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sf

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May 25, 2013, 5:40:22 PM5/25/13
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Thanks. I'm pretty sure I will find it. We have a couple of big
Asian groceries nearby and one is owned by Koreans. If it's not there
(the chili paste wasn't) I'll go back where I found the chili paste
and I'll probably find it there. :)

dsi1

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May 25, 2013, 7:19:37 PM5/25/13
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On 5/25/2013 11:40 AM, sf wrote:
>
> Thanks. I'm pretty sure I will find it. We have a couple of big
> Asian groceries nearby and one is owned by Koreans. If it's not there
> (the chili paste wasn't) I'll go back where I found the chili paste
> and I'll probably find it there. :)
>


I went a little nuts with the chili powder when I got it. I was putting
it in everything. I coated chicken and meatloaf with the stuff. It was a
lot of fun. Good luck.

gregz

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May 25, 2013, 9:34:19 PM5/25/13
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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 03:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like the way that they package in 4 oz bags, but give a discount if
>> you buy two or four of them. Keeps fresher that way.
>
> Do you store them in the refrigerator or freezer? I would.


I don't think the high wind is good for anything but glass jars.
Polyethylene is not good for keeping freshness. I store my homemade
habanero powder in bell jars, even so, it degenerates over a period of
years. I also add salt.

I get 6 oz containers at my grocery. It's packed by a local source, and
they sell for $4-5 . I can also buy any quantity from another Italian
store, which carries most spices in bulk.

Greg

sf

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May 26, 2013, 12:36:47 AM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:34:19 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 03:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> > <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like the way that they package in 4 oz bags, but give a discount if
> >> you buy two or four of them. Keeps fresher that way.
> >
> > Do you store them in the refrigerator or freezer? I would.
>
>
> I don't think the high wind is good for anything but glass jars.

I don't know what you mean by "high wind".

Nunya Bidnits

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May 28, 2013, 10:47:35 AM5/28/13
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If it has any heat left at all it would surprise me.

Bryan

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May 28, 2013, 4:31:53 PM5/28/13
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High wind is a belch, and low wind is a fart. And, no, I haven't started drinking at 3:30.

--Bryan

sf

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May 28, 2013, 5:29:06 PM5/28/13
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On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:31:53 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:36:47 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:34:19 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Sat, 25 May 2013 03:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> >
> > > > <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >> I like the way that they package in 4 oz bags, but give a discount if
> >
> > > >> you buy two or four of them. Keeps fresher that way.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Do you store them in the refrigerator or freezer? I would.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I don't think the high wind is good for anything but glass jars.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know what you mean by "high wind".
> >
> High wind is a belch, and low wind is a fart. And, no, I haven't started drinking at 3:30.
>

So you belch into glass jars? That makes absolutely no sense to me
when the topic at hand is storing 4 oz packages of cayenne.

gregz

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May 28, 2013, 11:15:33 PM5/28/13
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Frost free fan circulation.

Greg

gregz

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May 28, 2013, 11:18:10 PM5/28/13
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gregz <ze...@comcast.net> wrote:
> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:34:19 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 25 May 2013 03:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>>>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like the way that they package in 4 oz bags, but give a discount if
>>>>> you buy two or four of them. Keeps fresher that way.
>>>>
>>>> Do you store them in the refrigerator or freezer? I would.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think the high wind is good for anything but glass jars.
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by "high wind".
>>
>>
>
>
> Frost free fan circulation.
>
> Greg

That's what I always hated about frost free. Flavors intermingle or
dissipate, and things dry out. Not as much of a problem with old fashioned
boxes.

Greg
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