Evaporated Milk (in Germany)
ba...@altoetting-online.de
recipes and German products" questions? (I hope not... I'm sure there's
years and years of them yet to come...) ;-)
Here's the latest: evaporated milk. I can buy condensed milk, but I
thought I saw a post here saying that condensed milk in Germany isn't the
same as that in the US. I must admit to almost never using US condensed
milk, and never opening a can of the German product. I think people use it
here in their coffee...??? In any case, I'm pretty sure I can't use it
instead of evaporated milk in a recipe.
So, does anyone have any helpful tips about how to either find evaporated
milk in Germany, or create it myself, or produce some satisfactory
substitute? Specifically, I'd like to make the recipe below. (It's the one
my mom always used to make...)
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Barb
No-Bake Cookies
1 stick of margarine (1/2 cup)
2 cups sugar
3 tablespoons cocoa
1/2 cup evaporated milk
1/2 cup peanut butter
3 cups rolled oats
1 teaspoon vanilla
Combine sugar, margarine, cocoa and milk in a saucepan. Bring to a boil
and cook for one minute. Remove from heat and stir in peanut butter,
rolled oats, and vanilla. Beat until it loses its shine. Drop by
teaspoonfuls onto waxed paper. Let cool 10 minutes. Makes about two dozen.
from Meals For Thrifty Families, Lucy F. Sheive and Nellie Gushee.
Cooperative Extension Service, University of Maine at Orono*
*my alma mater -- Go Bears! :-)
Gernot Katzer
>
> Is everyone sick of my "I need help figuring out how to cook with American
> recipes and German products" questions? (I hope not... I'm sure there's
> years and years of them yet to come...) ;-)
>
> Here's the latest: evaporated milk.
What exactly are you searching for?
The stuff usually called "Kondensmilch" (condensed milk) is a
thick and very sweet concentrated milk. As you write, it's used
for coffee (shudder!), but it might be of value for cakes, creams
and ice.
"Trockenmilch" (dry milk) is a flaky powder that dissolves in
water to give something more or less reminiscent of milk.
It is not sweetened. It's not very common, but can usually be
located in larger supermarkets without any serious problems.
"Kaffesahne" lastly is a concentrated milk that contains no
additional suger and, thus, displays its natural sweetness.
It is also used for coffee.
Gernot
Ingeborg Moritzen
> Here's the latest: evaporated milk. I can buy condensed milk, but I
> thought I saw a post here saying that condensed milk in Germany isn't the
> same as that in the US. I must admit to almost never using US condensed
> milk, and never opening a can of the German product. I think people use it
> here in their coffee...??? In any case, I'm pretty sure I can't use it
> instead of evaporated milk in a recipe.
German condensed milk is your evaporated milk, and it is exactly what you
need for your recipe. Buy yourself one of the cans (or small bottle or
small glass) , open it and you will see and taste that it is just the milk
you need. And you are right, we use it to whiten our coffee or to make
sweets. But don't buy a tube of condensed milk for that is already
sweetened and would not be useful for your recipe.
Greetings, Ingeborg
ba...@altoetting-online.de
Moritzen) writes:
> Hello Barb,
> German condensed milk is your evaporated milk, and it is exactly what
> you need for your recipe. Buy yourself one of the cans (or small bottle
> or small glass) , open it and you will see and taste that it is just the
> milk you need. And you are right, we use it to whiten our coffee or to
> make sweets. But don't buy a tube of condensed milk for that is already
> sweetened and would not be useful for your recipe.
> Greetings, Ingeborg
Hi Ingeborg,
In the US there is condensed milk and evaporated milk... I'm not sure of
the difference, but I know they aren't interchangeable. Have you used
german condensed milk in recipes that call for evaporated milk?
Thanks...
ba...@altoetting-online.de
> ba...@altoetting-online.de wrote:
> >
> > Is everyone sick of my "I need help figuring out how to cook with
American
> > recipes and German products" questions? (I hope not... I'm sure
there's
> > years and years of them yet to come...) ;-)
> >
>
> What exactly are you searching for?
>
> The stuff usually called "Kondensmilch" (condensed milk) is a
> thick and very sweet concentrated milk. As you write, it's used
> for coffee (shudder!), but it might be of value for cakes, creams
> and ice.
>
> "Trockenmilch" (dry milk) is a flaky powder that dissolves in
> water to give something more or less reminiscent of milk.
> It is not sweetened. It's not very common, but can usually be
> located in larger supermarkets without any serious problems.
>
> "Kaffesahne" lastly is a concentrated milk that contains no
> additional suger and, thus, displays its natural sweetness.
> It is also used for coffee.
I'm searching for "evaporated milk", which isn't sweetened, as opposed to
condensed milk (Konsenmilch), but which also normally comes in a can in
the US and is thick.
Essentially, I know have to choose between either condensed milk or
Kaffeesahne for my recipe... should I use the condensed milk and omit some
(how much per can?) sugar?
Or is there some way for me to evaporate my own milk? If I reduce milk
over a low heat... have I created evaporated milk?
Or is Kaffeesahne the same as evaporated milk (condensed milk without the
sugar?)?
Ingeborg Moritzen
> the difference, but I know they aren't interchangeable. Have you used
> german condensed milk in recipes that call for evaporated milk?
> Thanks...
in Germany we have condensed milk and Kaffesahne and sweetened condensed
milk. Ordinary condensed milk (Kondenzmilch in German) has a fat
percentage of 7,5 % and is canned whole milk freed of some of its
moisture. This equals your evaporated milk. If it shows "leicht" on the
can then it is made of skimmed milk but is still evaporated milk.
Kaffeesahne is also US evaporated milk only with a higher fat percentage,
mostly 10 or 12%. So for your recipe you can take either German
Kondensmilch or Kaffeesahne depending on how much fat percentage you want.
And third we have sweetened condensed milk like you too. I believe the
only brand is here in Germany Nestle Milchmädchen and you can get it
either in a can or in a tube and this is not suitable for your cited
recipe.
Greetings, Ingeborg.
Tony Krch
> I'm searching for "evaporated milk", which isn't sweetened, as opposed
to
> condensed milk (Konsenmilch), but which also normally comes in a can in
> the US and is thick.
>
> Essentially, I know have to choose between either condensed milk or
> Kaffeesahne for my recipe... should I use the condensed milk and omit some
> (how much per can?) sugar?
>
> Or is there some way for me to evaporate my own milk? If I reduce milk
> over a low heat... have I created evaporated milk?
>
> Or is Kaffeesahne the same as evaporated milk (condensed milk without the
> sugar?)?
>
> --
> @}-->---
> Barb
>
>
Barb, In Austria they sell a product for use as a coffee "creamer" which
is called Maresi. I believe that this is actually evaporated milk. I don't
know if it is available where you are in Germany but if it is you could
give it a try. I actually tasted Maresi and U.S. evaporated milk side by
side because I wanted to find something that would give me the same taste
in coffee and found them to be virtually identical. Also, from my
recollection, at least in Austria I think you can find both sweetened and
unsweetened "Condensmilch". Depending on where you are in Germany, maybe
you just need to make a "milk run" to Austria. Hope something here helps
:)
-tony
TJ
> And third we have sweetened condensed milk like you too. I believe the
> only brand is here in Germany Nestle Milchmädchen and you can get it
Does madchen mean sweet? I seem to recall that name being tossed about
in a certain distant love affair.
tj
Petra Hildebrandt
TJ asked
>Ingeborg Moritzen wrote:
>> And third we have sweetened condensed milk like you too. I believe the
>> only brand is here in Germany Nestle Milchmädchen and you can get it
>
>Does madchen mean sweet?
Maedchen means girl
Petra
Petra Hildebrandt
Ingeborg Moritzen wrote
>in Germany we have condensed milk and Kaffesahne and sweetened condensed
>milk. Ordinary condensed milk (Kondenzmilch in German) has a fat
>percentage of 7,5 % and is canned whole milk freed of some of its
>moisture. This equals your evaporated milk.
snip
>So for your recipe you can take either German
>Kondensmilch or Kaffeesahne
I would try Kaffeesahne, since Kondensmilch has a very distinct flavor; or
milk
with added coffee creamer.
As for sweetended condensed milk, there is Milchmaedchen (milk maid, la
lechera) or
- in Asian shops - Longevity brand (cheaper and better)
HTH
Petra from Hamburg, Germany
Gernot Katzer
>
> Ingeborg Moritzen wrote:
>
> > And third we have sweetened condensed milk like you too. I believe the
> > only brand is here in Germany Nestle Milchmädchen and you can get it
>
> in a certain distant love affair.
No. Madchen = engl. maid = girl (not altogether surprising, given
the context you stumbled over it).
So, what does the brand name "milkmaid" mean? It's probably not more
than a reference to traditional milk production seen with the
romantic eyes of Rousseau; a kind of emotional message to distract
possible buyers from the reality of contemporary food production
methods. You know, showing grean meadows, pure lakes and great
mountains to make the custumer forget the poor conditions under which
cows are *really* brought up in our days.
Gernot
TJ
>
> TJ asked
>
> >Ingeborg Moritzen wrote:
> >> And third we have sweetened condensed milk like you too. I believe the
> >> only brand is here in Germany Nestle Milchmädchen and you can get it
> >
> >Does madchen mean sweet?
>
>
Well, this makes sense, as I was just over jailbait.
ObFood: The power was out recently, so I put the milk in an ice chest I
happened to have some ice and a bit of salt in, and the stuff came out
C-O-L-D and was a delight to drink. Heavenly!
tj
Victor Sack
> Ingeborg Moritzen wrote:
>
> > And third we have sweetened condensed milk like you too. I believe the
> > only brand is here in Germany Nestle Milchmädchen and you can get it
>
> Does madchen mean sweet?
It depends.
Victor
t r i l l i u m
~As for sweetended condensed milk, there is Milchmaedchen (milk maid, la
~lechera) or
~- in Asian shops - Longevity brand (cheaper and better)
The bf loves Longevity brand sweetened condensed milk for his coffee aka
rocket fuel (coming from an Italian family which drinks espresso, I didn't
think coffee could get thicker or sweeter...I was wrong). It's amazing to me
that we can buy it in an Asian shop for cheaper than Carnation (a US made and
made in the US brand <g>) and it's shipped all the way from Holland.
regards,
trillium
Guy & Tara
French Roast Espresso and Condensed Milk is only $1.50 per cup in
Chinatown in Philly! Costs more to make at home, otr the same.
Bye
Rodger Whitlock wrote:
>
> On Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:16:10 GMT, tbla...@nwu.edu (t r i l l i u m)
> wrote:
>
> >The bf loves Longevity brand sweetened condensed milk for his coffee aka
> >rocket fuel (coming from an Italian family which drinks espresso, I didn't
> >think coffee could get thicker or sweeter...I was wrong). It's amazing to me
> >that we can buy it in an Asian shop for cheaper than Carnation (a US made and
> >made in the US brand <g>) and it's shipped all the way from Holland.
>
> the label and it left me wondering "where is this stuff made?"
>
> OTOH, it may be that American labelling requirements mandate "made in
> X" and Canajun ones don't. We get a lot of imported stuff these days
> that just says "imported" and doesn't say where from.
>
> <makes mental note: visit Chinatown, peer at labels on canned milk>
>
> --
> Rodger Whitlock
> Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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tototot...@mail.pacificcoast.net (Rodger Whitlock) wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:16:10 GMT, tbla...@nwu.edu (t r i l l i u m)
> wrote:
>
> >The bf loves Longevity brand sweetened condensed milk for his coffee aka
> >rocket fuel (coming from an Italian family which drinks espresso, I didn't
> >think coffee could get thicker or sweeter...I was wrong). It's amazing
to me
> >that we can buy it in an Asian shop for cheaper than Carnation (a US
made and
> >made in the US brand <g>) and it's shipped all the way from Holland.
>
> I'm not sure Longevity is made in Holland. I've peered very closely at
> the label and it left me wondering "where is this stuff made?"<,
In Hawaii they sell a Longevity brand sweetened condensed milk, which is
cheaper than Carnation. I believe they make it somewhere in Asia. I don't
know if this is the same Longevity brand they sell in Holland.
Aloha from Hawaii
Rodger Whitlock
wrote:
>The bf loves Longevity brand sweetened condensed milk for his coffee aka
>rocket fuel (coming from an Italian family which drinks espresso, I didn't
>think coffee could get thicker or sweeter...I was wrong). It's amazing to me
>that we can buy it in an Asian shop for cheaper than Carnation (a US made and
>made in the US brand <g>) and it's shipped all the way from Holland.
I'm not sure Longevity is made in Holland. I've peered very closely at
the label and it left me wondering "where is this stuff made?"
OTOH, it may be that American labelling requirements mandate "made in