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Paul M. Cook

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Aug 27, 2008, 6:25:30 PM8/27/08
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Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now. Both
apparently are ear ototoxins. And I just bought a huge bottle of Boodles on
sale since the G&T is my summer drink. The ringing sound is supposed to go
away eventually but I think I'll pass on the stuff from now on.

Recipes anyone? Lots of limes on hand too.

Paul


Goomba

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:20:55 PM8/27/08
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Asprin can cause it too, and other drugs. What makes you think it was
the Gin?
I'd enjoy the gin but in moderation. I love me some Gin and Tonics!

Paul M. Cook

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:24:19 PM8/27/08
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"Goomba" <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I had an episode last year as well. I assumed it was something like sinus
congestion. So this time I did a little research. Gin has ototoxin
componds in it as does tonic water. Quinine is a known cause apparently. I
will switch to vodka gimlets. But might as well use up the gin.

Paul


Blinky the Shark

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Aug 27, 2008, 8:47:36 PM8/27/08
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Paul M. Cook wrote:

> Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now. Both
> apparently are ear ototoxins. And I just bought a huge bottle of Boodles on
> sale since the G&T is my summer drink. The ringing sound is supposed to go
> away eventually but I think I'll pass on the stuff from now on.

I didn't know that. While they are either-or for me, generally, I think
my tonics will now all use vodka rather than gin. Lately, most of them
have, anyway.


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Blinky the Shark

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Aug 27, 2008, 8:48:27 PM8/27/08
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Goomba wrote:

> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now. Both
>> apparently are ear ototoxins. And I just bought a huge bottle of Boodles on
>> sale since the G&T is my summer drink. The ringing sound is supposed to go
>> away eventually but I think I'll pass on the stuff from now on.
>>
>> Recipes anyone? Lots of limes on hand too.
>>
>> Paul
>
> Asprin can cause it too, and other drugs. What makes you think it was
> the Gin?

I'm sorry, what did you say? I just had a couple gin and aspirins.

> I'd enjoy the gin but in moderation. I love me some Gin and Tonics!

Good stuff.

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 27, 2008, 8:49:42 PM8/27/08
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Paul M. Cook wrote:

Well, shit. I guess staying with vodka tonics won't help. Hell,
sometimes I drink tonic water straight if I'm out of soda (in the "pop"
sense).

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Wayne Boatwright

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Aug 27, 2008, 9:08:44 PM8/27/08
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On Wed 27 Aug 2008 03:25:30p, Paul M. Cook told us...

Fresh lime gin gimlets...so much better than vodka and Rose's Lime Juice.
"Gin and It", a martini of sorts, made with gin and sweet vermouth.

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:12:56 PM8/27/08
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"Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote in message

> I had an episode last year as well. I assumed it was something like sinus
> congestion. So this time I did a little research. Gin has ototoxin
> componds in it as does tonic water. Quinine is a known cause apparently.
> I will switch to vodka gimlets. But might as well use up the gin.
>
> Paul

Why take the chance? Send me the Boodles and I'll assume the risk for you.
I only have two or three a week and no effect so far.


Bob Terwilliger

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:58:18 PM8/27/08
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Paul wrote:

Since the primary flavor in gin is juniper berries, you could try cooking
game with it. (Next week I'll be cooking elk tenderloin with juniper berries
and orange peel.) Try just mixing a tablespoon of gin and a tablespoon of
butter into a pound of ground bison (if you can find it) and making burgers
with it.

Bob

Miche

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Aug 28, 2008, 12:44:52 AM8/28/08
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In article <g94k8s$6em$1...@registered.motzarella.org>,

"Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

> Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now. Both
> apparently are ear ototoxins.

I solve that problem by drinking it rather than pouring it down my ears.
;)

Miche

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Graham

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Aug 28, 2008, 12:54:44 AM8/28/08
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Flambéed kidneys (AKA Rognons liégeois)

Devein and slice some veal or lamb's kidneys. Sauté in butter for a couple
of minutes then add some crushed juniper berries. Add a good glug of gin
and flambé. Serve over rice.

Graham

sf

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Aug 28, 2008, 2:53:14 AM8/28/08
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:08:42 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" <fo...@good.hot>
wrote:

>I can not drink gin. I haven't been able to since that unfortunate
>incident I had in Daytona Beach my sophomore year in college. I don't
>know what we were drinking. Maybe it was Mai Tais (sp). Whatever it was
>it had a pink color and lots of gin. I got sick to my stomach that
>night. Real sick. Projectile vomiting sick. When I woke up the next day
>I thought someone had been murdered in the room.

That reminds me of the time in college when I drank bloody marys along
with lots of other stuff and of course got throwing up sick.
Fortunately it was my dorm, so getting to bed was easy. The next
morning I saw red spots on my pillow (oh, my gawd I have an ULCER!)
and almost swore off booze until my roommate reminded me about what
I'd had to drink the night before.


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Giusi

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Aug 28, 2008, 4:36:54 AM8/28/08
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Change to Campari with soda and lemon or with cheap champers for a while.
Then yu could use the gin to make cloe gin, which I hear is good for what
ails you.


stark

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:02:55 AM8/28/08
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On Aug 27, 5:25 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus?  Me either until now.  Both
> apparently are ear ototoxins.  And I just bought a huge bottle of Boodles on
> sale since the G&T is my summer drink.  The ringing sound is supposed to go
> away eventually but I think I'll pass on the stuff from now on.
>

Do you mean that constant ringng in your ears? I've had it for twenty
years, but it was much easier getting used to it than giving up my
G&Ts. Sometimes I get a perfect high C which is pretty nice.

Wayne Boatwright

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:30:20 AM8/28/08
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On Thu 28 Aug 2008 05:02:55a, stark told us...

There are many causes of tinitus. It may very well not be gin. It's
caused by damage to one of the auditory nerves. Gin is a nice excuse. :-)

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blake murphy

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Aug 28, 2008, 11:07:42 AM8/28/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:25:30 -0700, Paul M. Cook wrote:

i have seen it recommended as a substitute for shaoxing wine in chinese
cooking:

Gin – While Shaoxing rice wine is commonly recommended because of its
consistent high quality, there are many types of rice wines in China. Gin
comes closer in flavor to the white rice wines than dry sherry. Feel free
to give it a try if you like.

<http://chinesefood.about.com/od/cookingfaqs/qt/rice_wine_sub.htm>

...but can't say i have tried it myself.

your pal,
blake

Giusi

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Aug 28, 2008, 11:22:40 AM8/28/08
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I actually did once, decades ago. It was put into a heatproof bowl and that
inside the duck which was steamed on a rack for some time. It was very ugly
looking when done, I recall, and I quickly daubed it with soy sauce so it
wouldn't look so much like Nero Wolfe.


Lou Decruss

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Aug 28, 2008, 11:22:31 AM8/28/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:25:30 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
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Bob mentioned the juniper berries. I made Choucroute garnie with gin
and it was very good.

Lou

notbob

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Aug 28, 2008, 11:35:16 AM8/28/08
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On 2008-08-27, Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now. Both
> apparently are ear ototoxins. And I just bought a huge bottle of Boodles on

I'll be glad to save you from the evils of Boodles. It's hard to find in my
neck of the woods.

nb

notbob

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Aug 28, 2008, 11:37:36 AM8/28/08
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On 2008-08-28, Miche <mich...@gee-mail.com> wrote:
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> I solve that problem by drinking it rather than pouring it down my ears.

LOL!.....

Paul M. Cook

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"Wayne Boatwright" <waynebo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu 28 Aug 2008 05:02:55a, stark told us...
>
>> On Aug 27, 5:25 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>> Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now.
>> Both
>>> apparently are ear ototoxins. And I just bought a huge bottle of Boodl
>> es on
>>> sale since the G&T is my summer drink. The ringing sound is supposed t
>> o go
>>> away eventually but I think I'll pass on the stuff from now on.
>>>
>>
>> Do you mean that constant ringng in your ears? I've had it for twenty
>> years, but it was much easier getting used to it than giving up my
>> G&Ts. Sometimes I get a perfect high C which is pretty nice.
>>
>
> There are many causes of tinitus. It may very well not be gin. It's
> caused by damage to one of the auditory nerves. Gin is a nice excuse. :-)
>

Quinine is the most likely culprit but gin is definitely a factor. Quinine
in large doses can cause permanent deafness. It was very common in he days
they used the stuff to treat malaria.

Paul


notbob

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Aug 28, 2008, 7:43:05 PM8/28/08
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On 2008-08-28, Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

> Quinine is the most likely culprit but gin is definitely a factor. Quinine
> in large doses can cause permanent deafness. It was very common in he days
> they used the stuff to treat malaria.
>

Say what?

Paul M. Cook

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Aug 28, 2008, 7:55:39 PM8/28/08
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"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
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We don't use it in that concentration but the fact is quinine is an
ototoxin. I really don't like gin any other way so I am screwed.

Paul


Bob Terwilliger

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Aug 28, 2008, 9:35:10 PM8/28/08
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Paul wrote:

> We don't use it in that concentration but the fact is quinine is an
> ototoxin. I really don't like gin any other way so I am screwed.

Ever had a gin gimlet? It's one of my favorite gin drinks, along with the
Ramos gin fizz.

Bob

ryannosaurus

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Aug 29, 2008, 7:58:17 PM8/29/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:25:30 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
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>Did you know gin and tonics can cause tinitus? Me either until now. Both

Quick fruit salad with a twist:

1 15oz can Grapefruit segments
2 small cans mandarin orange segments
gin

Drain most of the syrup off the fruit, mix, dress with gin. wheeeee.

stark

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Aug 30, 2008, 10:15:13 AM8/30/08
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On Aug 28, 5:20 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwri...@gmail.com> wrote in message

By the time you've had sufficient quinine or juniper from G&Ts to
experience tintinnitis, you'd already be deaf and blind from the
alcohol.

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