Re: Answer my question or I'll keep pestering -- WTF does cream in the local store contain carrageenan, polysorbate, preservatives, and mono/di- glycerides when milk doesn't?!

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

On Nov 22, 4:40 pm, dank <d...@nugget.org> wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/2de4253a3f4708cc :

> What's really annoying is when they
> add these ingredients to sour cream
> and even buttermilk. The neat thing about buttermilk is that you add
> a few drops of active culture to regular milk or even skim milk, and
> after a few days it turns so thick and rich and creamy. But the
> customer would much prefer the
> same skim milk with some carrageenan and
> xanthan gum added to make it thick, and a few drops of acetic acid to
> make it tangy.
>
> It is always important to read the ingredient list, but also be on the
> lookout for deceptive labeling that says something similar to:
>
> "SOUR CREAM ...................................................
> ..............................................................
> .....with other natural flavors..............Net Wt. 16oz/455g"

The only good sour cream is the sour cream made from real-cream* and
free of any and all xanthum gums, thickneners, annatto, preservatives,
carrageenan, polysorbate, nonfat milk solids, added mono/di- glycerides,
cellulose gum and other crap often added by sick lazy @$$holes who have
no concern for anyone other than their own phukking selves.

*Real cream = "sweet" [i.e. unsalted and non-soured], annatto-free,
preservative-free, carrageen-free, carrageenan-free, polysorbate-free,
purely-natural, completely-organic cream made from the milk of healthy
Jersey cows [who graze solely on natural pasture], free of nonfat milk
solids, free of added mono/di- glyceridesm and free of any other crap
often added by sick lazy @$$holes who have no concern for anyone other
than their own phukking selves.

"Thick and low/nonfat"? Thats disgusting!!!!!!!!!!

If you really want to torture me, then make me drink some nonfat,
non-soured, boiled milk that has enough water removed to give it the
thick viscosity of human-spit-foam. Oh and be sure to to mix it up with
a power blender to give it a foamy consistency -- which I truly hate
beyond description!!!! This milk would really stink like the morning
breath of a human who never clean the back of his/her tongue!!!!
Combined with that, it would remind me of a perverse human foaming at
the mouth -- EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mike Avery]

On Nov 26, 2007 9:28 AM, Green Xenon [Radium] <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

> If you really want to torture me, ...

Oh yes. Definitely. And passionately. Your unending abusive drivel
has definitely aroused that sort of sentiment. And I am quite sure
that I am far from the only one who feels that way.

However, to torture you, I'd have to know where you are and then I'd
have to actually be near you.

Quite frankly, that is more distasteful than I could stand. We all
have our limits, and actually meeting you would be well beyond mine.
You are spared torture, but you continue to be the object of disdain
and contempt. Now then, do you think you could go and pollute some
other news group?

[TC]

On Nov 26, 10:28 am, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 22, 4:40 pm, dank <d...@nugget.org> wrote inhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/2de4253a3f4708cc:

WTF do you not contact the milk manufacturer or the milk processors or
the milk marketing boards or somebody who would know this answer?

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

TC wrote:

>
> WTF do you not contact the milk manufacturer or the milk processors or
> the milk marketing boards or somebody who would know this answer?

I did contact them. I've contacted many of them for a long time. No
results. They simply don't want to talk about it.

[zxcvbob]

Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
[snip]

You think you are pestering us, but actually we know the answers and are
just stringing you along... It's a control thing. HTH ;-)

Bob

[rev....@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 8:56 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:

No, they simply don't want to talk to *you*, you little troll.

[Eric Jorgensen]

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:56:03 -0800

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

As someone who's never worked in manufacturing, sales, or anything
vaguely like dairy, I'll go ahead and tell you the obvious truth:

It increases what the average customer perceives as quality without
significantly increasing the cost of production vs. attempting to
achieve the same quality by some other method, such as more selective
purchasing.

That's why they do it. Guaranteed.

You're not the average customer. You are not their target market. Go
forth and buy other products. Vote with your wallet.

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

Eric Jorgensen wrote:

> It increases what the average customer perceives as quality without
> significantly increasing the cost of production vs. attempting to
> achieve the same quality by some other method, such as more selective
> purchasing.

Wait till I educate the "average customer" about the stink of
nonfat/lowfat, non-soured milk boiled until it as thick as a
human-spit-foam. Wait till I educate them about the stink of annato,

xanthum gums, thickneners, annatto, preservatives, carrageenan,
polysorbate, nonfat milk solids, added mono/di- glycerides, cellulose
gum and other crap often added by sick lazy @$$holes who have no concern
for anyone other than their own phukking selves.

Then those lazy sickos will be forced to either change their ways or
live out on the streets -- disheveled and begging for cash.

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

rev....@gmail.com wrote:

> No, they simply don't want to talk to *you*

Not to worry. I've got some of their contact info. I'll spam the phukk
outta them so they know how I feel.

[Mike Avery]

That does seem to work so well for you. It's such a wonderfully
educational strategy.

I wonder if a second email from you will make it to anyone inside of any
company?

[Eric Jorgensen]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:08:37 -0800

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

> Eric Jorgensen wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > It increases what the average customer perceives as quality without
> > significantly increasing the cost of production vs. attempting to
> > achieve the same quality by some other method, such as more
> > selective purchasing.
>
> Wait till I educate the "average customer"

They're not going to listen.

[joanne]

On Nov 29, 2:48 pm, Eric Jorgensen <al...@xmission.com> wrote:
> I'll go ahead and tell you the obvious truth:

> cost

> That's why they do it. Guaranteed.

A bit of editing there, but the $ is always the bottom line.

> Go forth and buy other products

You'd think he would be more concerned about the rbst in regular milk/
products than some thickening/preservative add ins.
Go organic ...never look back.

joanne

[Eric Jorgensen]

Personally i think the organic movement goes too far. Having heard
about the realities of raising organic beef cattle, I'd rather not eat
organic beef, thankyouverymuch. I just wish this country wasn't so
stupid that there's no demand for a logical middle path - I'd prefer
judicious use of antibiotics, for example, coupled with subtle changes
in the bovine diet - such as no rich starchy grains for a week before
slaughter.

I wonder how much synthetic growth hormone is really out there. Even
Monsanto says that 2/3rds of all dairy cattle aren't ever injected with
it, and it's only used during a short duration of the lactation cycle.
It's not like they're rinsing the milking equipment with it.

[limey]

I agree. If he bought the real stuff he wouldn't have to worry about
all the junk put into the imitation, fat-free product.

[Doug Irv]

THEN WHAT makes you think WE do? As Mike so aptly put it, but not in
these words, YOU Sir, are a pain in the butt! Old Doug in BC