Haflinger Dressage Prospects
Tara
next dressage horse. Trainer would like to see us get a young & green wb/tb
cross like the 5yo Donnerhall cross a client just bought for her to
campaign. Lack of finances means we're horse shopping frugally. Rebel will
probably end up selling for aroudn 10k to an eventing home so that's about
the extent of my budget. Due to Amie's tiny size (probably won't grow taller
than 5'5 as an adult) we can potentially take advantage of the cheaper
prices on large pony/small horse dressage prospects. Haflingers are
beautiful, smart, sturdy and, from what I've been reading, more than capable
of doing mid-level dressage. Trainer hasn't gotten back to me on the breed
yet. Opinions?
Tara
Nancy DeMarco
all about the individual.
Ten K will buy a lot of horse in this market. I wouldn't be limiting
myself to one breed. There are many talented small horses out there.
Just start looking and see what strikes your fancy. You might end up
with a nice Haflinger, or a nice Welsh Cobb, or a nice Arabian, or a
nice Tb, or a nice Appy or a nice Wb/Tb cross. :)
Horse hunting is an opportunity to expand your horizons.
Nancy
Tara
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Thanks Nancy. I'm not limiting, just adding a breed to the mix that was
previously unthought-of.
Tara
Cricket
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My sister's half Haflinger stallion (she was into breeding an American
version of trekking ponies for a while, until she got thoroughy sick of
dealing with idiots) was responding like he was well into training level on
his third ride. She wasn't pushing him, just playing with him, and he loved
it. I think he was showing off...
Cricket
Cricket
I know some grass green Percherons you can get half a dozen of for that
money - nice horses, just no market.
Cricket
Tara
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>
> I know some grass green Percherons you can get half a dozen of for that
> money - nice horses, just no market.
>
> Cricket
I want a Percheron for myself! The breed is definitely on the list for Amie
though. Basically every warmblood breed is on it and if they're mixed with
TB that's good too. If time weren't an issue I'd just foster OTTBs for
Canter until we found one the trainer fell in love with. Cash, my OTTB,
showed potential but he's starting to go more like a hunter now and then
there's the whole wiggle-worm thing he's got down to a science. Our two
horses are almost polar opposites. Rebel is only just starting to realize
that he can move his various parts independently of each other (we used to
call him a surfboard...where the nose went everything followed in a rigid
line). Cash has a problem with coordinating all of his parts into doing the
same thing or going in the same direction :)
Tara
Sue Leopold
I have a friend with a super nice WB/TB cross - very, very fancy, lovely
mover and level-headed as can be - but he's small (a "hony") and
probably won't be much over 15'1" at maturity, maybe 15'2". He's
pea green though. He's nice and she will probably let him go well
within your budget.
Sorrento: http://www.sue-marwarmbloods.com/spigot.html
There is some under-saddle video - if you are interested she can
get it online.
I've been around this guy quite a bit and he is a sweetheart.
Dawn J-L
Not a Halflinger, but I do have a flaxen chestnut three year old that
might fit your requirements. Elastic gaits, quiet mind, sweet
personality, excellent manners. Robin is one of my homebreds.
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/FCF_Robin_Goodfellow_pedigree.html
He's currently about 14.2, but is likely to grow more. He comes from
bloodlines that have produced mid-upper level dressage horses. After a
few months of training, he is w/t/c, hacks, and is a favorite at the
open dressage/eventing barn where he is currently in residence.
--Dawn
betsey
> Not a Halflinger, but I do have a flaxen chestnut three year old that
> might fit your requirements. Elastic gaits, quiet mind, sweet
> He's currently about 14.2, but is likely to grow more. He comes from
> bloodlines that have produced mid-upper level dressage horses. After a
> few months of training, he is w/t/c, hacks, and is a favorite at the
> open dressage/eventing barn where he is currently in residence.
>
> --Dawn
You know, as I was reading Tara's originall post...I was thinking
"where is Dawn in all this"....but have no idea of the fair market
value for your stock!!
Tara-Dawn breeds absolutely gorgeous horses. I'd bee looking
there......
betsey
Jane Saranac
Haflingers are awesome horses but they are as individual as any horses.
They are definitely includable in the "potential for dressage" category and
they can be very flashy.
We have 2 at our barn, a mare and a gelding. The mare was doing eventing,
she is a short stout thing but she can jump. She belongs to the barn owers.
The gelding is just 5 and came to us green as grass, gorgeous and well
conformed; when my trainer got him he was doing lead line stuff and pony
parties but not being really ridden, and within a year his 7 year old owner
can sit his trot bareback and ride him all over the place w/t/c. They can
have a stubborn "make me" streak but I've seen ones on videos that were
dressage stars. I'm sure if you Google Haflinger dressage you can find
stuff.
Tara
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Not a Halflinger, but I do have a flaxen chestnut three year old that
might fit your requirements. Elastic gaits, quiet mind, sweet
personality, excellent manners. Robin is one of my homebreds.
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/FCF_Robin_Goodfellow_pedigree.html
He's currently about 14.2, but is likely to grow more. He comes from
bloodlines that have produced mid-upper level dressage horses. After a
few months of training, he is w/t/c, hacks, and is a favorite at the
open dressage/eventing barn where he is currently in residence.
--Dawn
Dawn he's cute as a button!!! Thanks for letting me know about him, I'll
pass him onto my daughter's trainer. Unfortunately I'd have to actually sell
Rebel first and I'm having a *really* hard time with the idea now that its
actually time to do so. I've known, logically & realistically, that the time
would come if Amie really gave her all to dressage and I was fine with it.
However, now that he was evaluated this weekend, had a price put on him and
I have two potential buyer prospects I'm getting cold feet.
--
Tara
(who keeps telling herself that she cannot afford to keep 3 horses even if
there is an available stall right now)
Tara
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>
> Sorrento: http://www.sue-marwarmbloods.com/spigot.html
>
> There is some under-saddle video - if you are interested she can
> get it online.
>
> I've been around this guy quite a bit and he is a sweetheart.
Thanks for the recommendation Sue. I'm sending this link and Dawn's on to
Amie's trainer.
--
Tara
Dawn J-L
> "Dawn J-L" <tjone...@together.net> wrote in message
>
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>
> Not a Halflinger, but I do have a flaxen chestnut three year old that
> might fit your requirements. Elastic gaits, quiet mind, sweet
> He's currently about 14.2, but is likely to grow more. He comes from
> bloodlines that have produced mid-upper level dressage horses. After a
> few months of training, he is w/t/c, hacks, and is a favorite at the
> open dressage/eventing barn where he is currently in residence.
>
> --Dawn
>
> Dawn he's cute as a button!!! Thanks for letting me know about him, I'll
> pass him onto my daughter's trainer. Unfortunately I'd have to actually sell
> Rebel first and I'm having a *really* hard time with the idea now that its
> actually time to do so. I've known, logically & realistically, that the time
> would come if Amie really gave her all to dressage and I was fine with it.
I understand completely. The bonds we form with these horses are
deep. As a breeder who is bringing these horses into the world, I
feel an additional sense of responsibility.
Here's Robin when he was brand new:
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/photos/Rieba_06colt.jpg
> However, now that he was evaluated this weekend, had a price put on him and
> I have two potential buyer prospects I'm getting cold feet.
>
> --
> Tara
> (who keeps telling herself that she cannot afford to keep 3 horses even if
> there is an available stall right now)
I am dealing with my own cold feet by reminding myself that these
horses depend on us for their well-being which includes matching them
with someone who can best give them what they need now.
Once I finish wrangling Adobe Premiere I will have video footage of
Robin under saddle to upload.
--Dawn JL
Sue Leopold
> I am dealing with my own cold feet by reminding myself that these
> horses depend on us for their well-being which includes matching them
> with someone who can best give them what they need now.
As are we with The Nose.
A friend of Jeff's who has ridden to Grand Prix and who totally "gets"
the whole Galoubet thing (he had a Galoubet son of whom he says
"That little horse took me places I'd never thought I'd go.") has had
a few rides on The Nose over some big courses. Of The Nose he
says "Totally not complicated, easy to get to the jumps." Jeff just
shakes his head and says "Does he ever come out different?" Uh,
no, he *is* after all The Nose. :-) Jeff never gushes, except over
his dogs, he is effusive in his praise of The Nose. Because, well,
he's The Nose. They don't come much nicer.
My feeling is this - they all have a gift. Up to us to figure out where
it is best given. It's never easy. But sometimes it is just right.
There are bad apples in every discipline, we all know that. But there
are good eggs as well, people like our friend Jerry who will not
pound his horses, who wants the best for them - and whom I
caught giving a quick hug to Cruiser saying "You are such a nice
horse." :-) Yup, that's who we want to sell to. And believe me, he
is more the rule than the exception.
> Once I finish wrangling Adobe Premiere I will have video footage of
> Robin under saddle to upload.
Ouch. My sympathies. ;-)
Catja Pafort
> I find myself looking hard at Haflingers as a potential breed for Amie's
> next dressage horse.
Why?
If you want a dressage horse, go for something that has the conformation
and aptitude. If you love Haflingers, then by all means train yours in
dressage as well - but it's a very rare one that goes well beyond the
basics.
The old style are sturdy chaps, mostly with a stubborn streak - placid
and reliable and great trecking horses. The newer style have a lot of
arab blood crossed into them, and not always wisely - they can have the
arab ability to startle with the Haflinger inability to calm down once
they're upset, which is a pretty lethal combination - I'd go for a
purebred of either type any day.
In the current climate, 10K will buy you a fair amount of horse; and
Haflingers in the US are still a relatively rare breed and thus carry a
higher price tag.
I think Dawn's arabs would fit your bill much better.
Catja
--
writing blog @ http://beyond-elechan.livejournal.com
Tara
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> Tara wrote:
>
>> I find myself looking hard at Haflingers as a potential breed for Amie's
>> next dressage horse.
>
> Why?
Its a moot point now
> If you want a dressage horse, go for something that has the conformation
> and aptitude. If you love Haflingers, then by all means train yours in
> dressage as well - but it's a very rare one that goes well beyond the
> basics.
I had read several things that indicated that Haflingers *are* well-suited
to dressage which is why I asked about them. I
> The old style are sturdy chaps, mostly with a stubborn streak - placid
> and reliable and great trecking horses. The newer style have a lot of
> arab blood crossed into them, and not always wisely - they can have the
> arab ability to startle with the Haflinger inability to calm down once
> they're upset, which is a pretty lethal combination - I'd go for a
> purebred of either type any day.
> In the current climate, 10K will buy you a fair amount of horse; and
> Haflingers in the US are still a relatively rare breed and thus carry a
> higher price tag.
Thanks for the info. I can get my hands on a byb Haflinger locally without
problem, they're not terribly rare here.
> I think Dawn's arabs would fit your bill much better.
Her horses are beautiful. Trainer is kinda hung up on warmbloods
(particularly Donnerhall lines) and wb/tb crosses. She wasn't in favor of
Haflingers.
Tara
Sue Leopold
> > I think Dawn's arabs would fit your bill much better.
>
> Her horses are beautiful. Trainer is kinda hung up on warmbloods
> (particularly Donnerhall lines) and wb/tb crosses. She wasn't in favor of
> Haflingers.
Donnerhalls' are noted for rideabilty - that's their hallmark and
really it is a well-earned trait. Can be a bit well, err old-fashioned
and not the flashiest movers. Still.. They are nice horses.
The RubensteinxDonnerhall works because Rubenstein brings
in more length of leg and a more modern movement while
retaining the fabled Donnerhall mind.
Your trainer might be swayed when she sees how Dawn's
Arabs move. I mean, they are good. Really, really good.
Add in home-raised, handled and trained from the get go.
Doesn't get much better than that.
Sue, Faerie Court Arabians Fan :-)
svle...@earthlink.net
Cricket
"Catja Pafort" <green_...@greenknight.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>> I find myself looking hard at Haflingers as a potential breed for Amie's
>> next dressage horse.
>
> Why?
>
> If you want a dressage horse, go for something that has the conformation
> and aptitude. If you love Haflingers, then by all means train yours in
> dressage as well - but it's a very rare one that goes well beyond the
> basics.
>
> The old style are sturdy chaps, mostly with a stubborn streak - placid
> and reliable and great trecking horses. The newer style have a lot of
> arab blood crossed into them, and not always wisely - they can have the
> arab ability to startle with the Haflinger inability to calm down once
> they're upset, which is a pretty lethal combination - I'd go for a
> purebred of either type any day.
>
> In the current climate, 10K will buy you a fair amount of horse; and
> Haflingers in the US are still a relatively rare breed and thus carry a
> higher price tag.
Um, say what?
There's half a dozen Haflingers per block around here. Rather thick on the
ground - and fairly cheap. And half the fair sized ponies/small horses
around here are part Haf.
Cricket
Tara
>
> Donnerhalls' are noted for rideabilty - that's their hallmark and
> really it is a well-earned trait. Can be a bit well, err old-fashioned
> and not the flashiest movers. Still.. They are nice horses.
>
> The RubensteinxDonnerhall works because Rubenstein brings
> in more length of leg and a more modern movement while
> retaining the fabled Donnerhall mind.
A friend has an imported Donnerhall mare who was doing PSG without blinking
(according to what I've been told...owner wasn't the one competing her). Our
trainer just got an Oldenburg/TB youngster who is also Donnerhall bred but I
don't know any more about which specific lines from Donnerhall they were.
The TB mare is a byb with nice conformation and movement. She wants me to
send her the link to Sorrento after I told her about him.
> Your trainer might be swayed when she sees how Dawn's
> Arabs move. I mean, they are good. Really, really good.
Might work. Arabians around here are typically owned by spoiled h/j kids
with rude trainers so there's a little stigma to them.
> Add in home-raised, handled and trained from the get go.
> Doesn't get much better than that.
I really like the home-raised & handled part. Rebel is a local byb that
we've brought along and kept at the same stable, with mostly the same herd
and mostly the same instructors for 2-1/2 years. I think that stability has
helped him to focus on his training and be such a confident horse. That's
something I would be impressed by as a buyer and certainly a wonderful
selling point for Dawn.
Tara
Poplar Flats Farm
I've seen a few Halflingers and they've all be quite nice little
horses. We have a half Halflinger and she's strictly walk-trot--
absolutely will not canter under saddle--with that wonderful steady-
eddie personality.
If you want something in the baroque style without the baroque price
tag, look at the old style Morgans. Very versatile horses, Morgans,
and not too horribly large.
--Karen Smith
Dawn J-L
> "Sue Leopold" <svleop...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > Donnerhalls' are noted for rideabilty - that's their hallmark and
> > really it is a well-earned trait. Can be a bit well, err old-fashioned
> > and not the flashiest movers. Still.. They are nice horses.
>
> > The RubensteinxDonnerhall works because Rubenstein brings
> > in more length of leg and a more modern movement while
> > retaining the fabled Donnerhall mind.
>
> A friend has an imported Donnerhall mare who was doing PSG without blinking
> (according to what I've been told...owner wasn't the one competing her). Our
> trainer just got an Oldenburg/TB youngster who is also Donnerhall bred but I
> don't know any more about which specific lines from Donnerhall they were.
> The TB mare is a byb with nice conformation and movement. She wants me to
> send her the link to Sorrento after I told her about him.
Sorrento looked like a very nice youngster. Sue knows her stuff. ;-)
>
> > Your trainer might be swayed when she sees how Dawn's
> > Arabs move. I mean, they are good. Really, really good.
>
> Might work. Arabians around here are typically owned by spoiled h/j kids
> with rude trainers so there's a little stigma to them.
There IS a lot of stigma around the breed due to all kinds of
factors. Within the breed, my horses are considered "old fashioned"
by many. I don't worry about what any of those folks think. ;-)
Different strokes. I like what I've got here; I figure there must be
others like me somewhere out there. :-)
For anyone who might be interested in how my horses are connected to
the tradition of using Arabians for sport horse breeding and
performance, I wrote/assembled this for my website:
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/Proven_Sport_Horse_Bloodlines.html
>
> > Add in home-raised, handled and trained from the get go.
> > Doesn't get much better than that.
>
> I really like the home-raised & handled part. Rebel is a local byb that
> we've brought along and kept at the same stable, with mostly the same herd
> and mostly the same instructors for 2-1/2 years. I think that stability has
> helped him to focus on his training and be such a confident horse. That's
> something I would be impressed by as a buyer and certainly a wonderful
> selling point for Dawn.
>
> Tara
Thanks for the kind comments. The Arab mare that first led me to the
breed's "buried treasure" was such a joy to handle and an easy horse
to train. She was a 15 years old pasture pet. Once I started working
with her, she started looking down the road every day for my arrival.
She just blossomed as I taught her to lunge and then be ridden. I
sold my uber talented KWPN gelding and bought my first Arabian. I have
never regretted it.
The horses that I've raised from foals are a pleasure to handle and
train. They deeply trust people and enjoy learning. My instructor
thought that Legend was probably the easiest horse she had ever
started. Two years later, she asserts that Robin is the easiest and
most laid back horse anyone has started. I'm currently rendering a
rough cut of the video footage of Robin that I shot a week ago. I'll
post a link once I get it rendered and uploaded.
FWIW, Robin is "sorta kinda like a WB". <wink> He has the same
pedigree elements as Aul Magic, an ATA approved Arab stallion.
http://www.legendaryarabians.com/trakehner.htm My friend Sandy Warren
bred Aul Magic --and Robin's mother. Aul Magic is by Aulrab and out
of Lewisfield Magic daughter. My Robin is by a Lewisfield Magic son
out of a mare that is the result of breeding Aulrab to his full
sister. Here's Rieba, Robin's dam and lead mare of my herd:
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/Rieba_pedigree.html
Here's Aul Magic's web site. http://legendaryarabians.com/legend.htm
Aul Magic wasn't started under saddle until he was 15 years old. He
was shown for two years, presented to the ATA and approved and was
"retired" to breeding. My 2009 filly, Gem, is by Aul Magic. The
Warren park lines are known for solid big bodied horses with powerful
and elastic movement and high trainability/rideability. At three,
Robin is physically immature right now, but he looks to be on track
for being a good representative of these lines. I like these lines so
much that --in addition to the two home-bred fillies from these lines
that I am keeping-- I am now leasing a young stallion from my friend
Sandy.
my two fillies with some Warren Park breeding:
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/FCF_As_You_Wish_pedigree.html and
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/FCF_MagicAul_Gem_pedigree.html
the leased Warren Park stallion: http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/Aur_Mystic_Heir_pedigree.html
These are solidly built, free moving horses with great minds.
I am definitely rambling now (all the better to distract me from
worrying about Legend who I left contentedly munching hay at the
equine surgical hospital), but I am off to check the status of my &*$#
videos. (I do think I have finally solved the export resolution/
compression issues.)
I hope that your daughter finds a heart horse that will be the equine
partner she desires. :-) There are so many good horses out there of
all kinds of breeds--TB's, Morgans, WB's, etc. One of the most
valuable things I've learned from being around horses is that the
breed is ultimately the least important consideration for most riders.
Finding a horse with the right temperament, athleticism, and
trainability for the rider's needs is the key to a good partnership.
(Breed is only important for breed restricted events.) That's my bit
of wisdom for the day. ;-)
Dawn JL
JC Dill
> "Nancy DeMarco" <nancy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I've known some lovely Haflingers, and many very ordinary ones. It's
>> all about the individual.
>>
>> Ten K will buy a lot of horse in this market. I wouldn't be limiting
>> myself to one breed. There are many talented small horses out there.
>> Just start looking and see what strikes your fancy. You might end up
>> with a nice Haflinger, or a nice Welsh Cobb, or a nice Arabian, or a
>> nice Tb, or a nice Appy or a nice Wb/Tb cross. :)
>>
>> Horse hunting is an opportunity to expand your horizons.
> Thanks Nancy. I'm not limiting, just adding a breed to the mix that was
> previously unthought-of.
IMHO, if you are looking for a mount with specific training (e.g.
dressage, jumping, eventing) it's rarely a good idea to pick or limit
the search based on breed. Set the search to look at *every* animal
that meets the criteria that affect teh animal's ability to do the job -
e.g. if you need a certain size, or don't want an aged horse, or need a
certain gender (e.g. if you need a gelding because you keep your horses
at home and have another gelding who loses his brain if you stable him
with a mare).
You may find all sorts of previously unthought-of breeds or crosses that
meet your search criteria.
jc
Dawn J-L
> IMHO, if you are looking for a mount with specific training (e.g.
> dressage, jumping, eventing) it's rarely a good idea to pick or limit
> the search based on breed. Set the search to look at *every* animal
> that meets the criteria that affect the animal's ability to do the job -
> e.g. if you need a certain size, or don't want an aged horse, or need a
> certain gender (e.g. if you need a gelding because you keep your horses
> at home and have another gelding who loses his brain if you stable him
> with a mare).
>
> You may find all sorts of previously unthought-of breeds or crosses that
> meet your search criteria.
>
> jc
Absolutely the truth!
--Dawn JL
Dawn J-L
> Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
> > I am dealing with my own cold feet by reminding myself that these
> > horses depend on us for their well-being which includes matching them
> > with someone who can best give them what they need now.
>
> As are we with The Nose.
>
> a few rides on The Nose over some big courses. Of The Nose he
> says "Totally not complicated, easy to get to the jumps." Jeff just
> shakes his head and says "Does he ever come out different?" Uh,
> no, he *is* after all The Nose. :-) Jeff never gushes, except over
> his dogs, he is effusive in his praise of The Nose. Because, well,
> he's The Nose. They don't come much nicer.
No. They don't. He is extraordinary. :-)
>
> My feeling is this - they all have a gift. Up to us to figure out where
> it is best given. It's never easy. But sometimes it is just right.
>
> There are bad apples in every discipline, we all know that. But there
> are good eggs as well, people like our friend Jerry who will not
> pound his horses, who wants the best for them - and whom I
> caught giving a quick hug to Cruiser saying "You are such a nice
> horse." :-) Yup, that's who we want to sell to. And believe me, he
> is more the rule than the exception.
>
> > Once I finish wrangling Adobe Premiere I will have video footage of
> > Robin under saddle to upload.
>
> Ouch. My sympathies. ;-)
Hah! I have triumphed over the software and uploaded a very rough cut
of some video footage of Robin. He is three years old and very, very
green under saddle. He had just started cantering 3-4 few rides prior
to this particular day. Although he needs time to develop strength
and balance, I believe his incredible mind and innate athleticism are
evident even at this early point in his training. But, I'm totally
biased. I wuv this youngster. ;-)
http://www.vimeo.com/7788084 password: robin
Feedback is welcome from anyone who cares to comment.
Dawn JL
(totally responsible for the crappy camera work
I hadn't used the darn video camera in 4 years
I apologize for any motion sickness caused by my poor camera handling)
Grizzly
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/7788084 password: robin
>
> Feedback is welcome from anyone who cares to comment.
>
> Dawn JL
> (totally responsible for the crappy camera work
> I hadn't used the darn video camera in 4 years
> I apologize for any motion sickness caused by my poor camera handling)
>
Well done. It is nicely videotaped. Not too long. It shows what he is
capable of. It shows a pliable, good moving young horse will a good
disposition, no spook and a good start for a youngster. I hope the
surgery goes well with no complications and you find him a wonderful
home where he will be loved and doted upon.
Jane Saranac
http://www.vimeo.com/7788084 password: robin
Feedback is welcome from anyone who cares to comment.
-------- He is amazing!
Dawn JL
(totally responsible for the crappy camera work
--------Oh, c'mon -- you are not even a distant cousin to my crappy camera
work. I can't even keep the chosen image in the viewfinder. Nicely done.
It shows all the right things.
Dawn J-L
Thanks. :-)
This is Robin the three year old who was gelded in April. Legend, my
seven year old breeding stallion, is the one who is getting castrated
today. *His* video is still in progress because I have more footage.
Dawn JL
Grizzly
Oops, I got them crossed up. Both are chestnuts and similar in
appearance /conformation. You really should break them to drive as a
pair and take them on the combined driving circuit..
Tom & Win
Winnie
Nina
Ahmour - Ahmeetz ox x Khemoxandria ox v Khemo Bay ox.
Final testing is December 10-12 and there will be a live video feed.
Link: <http://www.silvercreeksporthorses.com/
70DayStallionTest2009.htm>.
Dawn, your horses are awesome.
Nina
Dawn J-L
> There is an Arab stallion participating in the 70-Day stallion test.
> Ahmour - Ahmeetz ox x Khemoxandria ox v Khemo Bay ox.
Awesome. I actually know of his sire, Ahmeetz. I have a fellow
Crabbet/CMK breeder who has used Ahmeetz quite a few times; his family
co-owned Ahmeetz for a while. I actually considered using Ahmeetz for
one of my mares, but transported semen was not offered. Ahmeetz is a
representative of the same breeding group that I utilize. These lines
really *DO* produce sport horses. :-)
> Final testing is December 10-12 and there will be a live video feed.
>
> Link: <http://www.silvercreeksporthorses.com/
> 70DayStallionTest2009.htm>.
I hope I can manage to watch.
>
> Dawn, your horses are awesome.
>
> Nina
Thanks, Nina. You'll have to come meet them when you come to the VT
Summer Festival H/J show. Thom and I will be coming down to see the
Nose when he shows there again.
--Dawn
Nina
>
> Awesome. I actually know of his sire, Ahmeetz. I have a fellow
> Crabbet/CMK breeder who has used Ahmeetz quite a few times; his family
> co-owned Ahmeetz for a while. I actually considered using Ahmeetz for
> one of my mares, but transported semen was not offered. Ahmeetz is a
> representative of the same breeding group that I utilize. These lines
> really *DO* produce sport horses. :-)
>
probably a sporthorse but was not sure. I know the Traks accept
Arabs into their registry. Are there any other warmblood registries
that do? I know \Selle Francais (but they are not active in this
country). How about the Belgian group - I know they do a lot with
Selle Francais.
> > Final testing is December 10-12 and there will be a live video feed.
>
> > Link: <http://www.silvercreeksporthorses.com/
> > 70DayStallionTest2009.htm>.
>
> I hope I can manage to watch.
Me, too.
> Thanks, Nina. You'll have to come meet them when you come to the VT
> Summer Festival H/J show. Thom and I will be coming down to see the
> Nose when he shows there again.
>
Yeah, if we do it this year (Jeff usually does Vermont, last year was
the
first year he did Saugerties instead) I am sure it will be less
chaotic so
that Sue and I can pay a visit.
Nina
Dawn J-L
> On Nov 24, 7:51 pm, Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
>
> > Awesome. I actually know of his sire, Ahmeetz. I have a fellow
> > Crabbet/CMK breeder who has used Ahmeetz quite a few times; his family
> > co-owned Ahmeetz for a while. I actually considered using Ahmeetz for
> > one of my mares, but transported semen was not offered. Ahmeetz is a
> > representative of the same breeding group that I utilize. These lines
> > really *DO* produce sport horses. :-)
Here's a shot of a 2001 Ahmeetz daughter, FFC Ahrare (Ahmeetz x FFC
Raritee), in a Training Level test at the 2007 Arabian Sport Horse
Nationals.
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/photos/webexamples/SHN2007/FFCAHRARE_SHN2007-010.jpg
This is Ahmeetz:
http://www.rhpsi.com/images/stallions/StudBookIRoster/Ahmeetz.gif
This is Ahmour:
http://www.silvercreeksporthorses.com/IMG_3010%5B1%5D.JPG
Ahmeetz (book I) and Ahmour (book II) are both approved RPSI
>
> I was hoping you would chime in on the breeding. I figured he was
> probably a sporthorse but was not sure. I know the Traks accept
> Arabs into their registry. Are there any other warmblood registries
> that do? I know \Selle Francais (but they are not active in this
> country). How about the Belgian group - I know they do a lot with
> Selle Francais.
More Euro WB registries allow Arabians for inspection for breeding
approval than don't. I am aware that OLD/GOV, RPSI, the Traks
(particularly prevalent in the Russian Traks), SWB, S, and Hano all
have rules that allow purebred Arabians to be presented. KWPN,
Holsteiner, and Westphalian do not. I am not sure about the others.
>
> > > Final testing is December 10-12 and there will be a live video feed.
>
> > > Link: <http://www.silvercreeksporthorses.com/
> > > 70DayStallionTest2009.htm>.
>
> > You'll have to come meet them when you come to the VT
> > Summer Festival H/J show. Thom and I will be coming down to see the
> > Nose when he shows there again.
>
> Yeah, if we do it this year (Jeff usually does Vermont, last year was
> the
> first year he did Saugerties instead) I am sure it will be less
> chaotic so
> that Sue and I can pay a visit.
We would be delighted to have you visit. The horses (and the dogs and
cats--you've met the dogs) would also be happy to see you. We have
exceedingly friendly critters.
--Dawn JL