Remember Spice?
AKogler
with her. They trail ride, do dressage, and Spice lives in a beautiful
private estate. Lots of pasture, 14x18 stalls, lovely big ring, trails
right out the property. She is a couple of miles from me.
Spice got cast badly several months ago and got pretty beat up. She
apparantly hit her left hind ankle and caused some real scarring/
calcification; and tore/sprained/strained her left hip/SI/pelvis. She
has been on and off lame since.
So Deb is going to give her to me for several months to see if we can
get her sound. Whee! I love Spice. We will pull her shoes, put her in
the Revitavet, try the Feld body work, the deep tissue, etc etc etc. I
will take vids of her progress and start a soundness blog or put her
on FB or something.
She'll come over in a couple of weeks. She looks good, but is lame in
her right front with to me pretty acceptable age related ringbone;
left hind with the scarring/calcification of her ligament attachments
from her cast episode; and her pelvis is held to the left and you can
feel the shortened muscle on the left.
Wish us luck! She is such great mare. If I get her sound, Deb will
give her to me. If not, she will breed her to one of the wonderful
stallions we have in this area.
Abby
Tamara in TN
> Wish us luck! She is such great mare. If I get her sound, Deb will
> give her to me. If not, she will breed her to one of the wonderful
> stallions we have in this area.
>
> Abby
Spice ?? Robin's Spice??
Tamara in TN
Cricket
"AKogler" <ako...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> My friend Debbie bought Spice and has been having a wonderful time
> with her. They trail ride, do dressage, and Spice lives in a beautiful
> private estate. Lots of pasture, 14x18 stalls, lovely big ring, trails
> right out the property. She is a couple of miles from me.
>
> Spice got cast badly several months ago and got pretty beat up. She
> apparantly hit her left hind ankle and caused some real scarring/
> calcification; and tore/sprained/strained her left hip/SI/pelvis. She
> has been on and off lame since.
> Abby
Geez, did all the horses get together and declare this "let's get ourselves
cast" week???
I haven't had a horse get cast in...ever...until Scout last week (in a
freakin' feed bunk, fercrissakes), and now this one...okay, she did it
first, but still...
Cricket
AKogler
Yep!
Abby
Nancy DeMarco
> Geez, did all the horses get together and declare this "let's get ourselves
> cast" week???
Shut the f... too late. That which has been said cannot be un-said.
Might as well set up a cot in the barn and put the vet on speed dial.
> I haven't had a horse get cast in...ever...until Scout last week (in a
> freakin' feed bunk, fercrissakes), and now this one...okay, she did it
> first, but still...
My horses are wild today, what with the wind and sun-after-rain and
new sounds and "Youth Weekend" filling the New Hampshire woods with
well-supervised kids and firearms. The girls have been galloping from
one end of the woods to the other since dawn.
We have three new guinea hens, the result of a divorce. (Who gets the
guineas? Not me!) :) They are shut in a run complaining and scared
out of their tiny little minds. They are completely un-handled, wild
things. It's all I can do to put fresh food and water in there
without them beating themselves to death.
Two weeks. I'll let them out in two weeks. And the banties will have
their hawk alarm.
Good luck with Spice, Abby! Sounds do-able.
Nancy
Grizzly
> "Cricket" <cricketc...@wmis.net> wrote:
>
>
> We have three new guinea hens, the result of a divorce. (Who gets the
> guineas? Not me!) :) They are shut in a run complaining and scared
> out of their tiny little minds. They are completely un-handled, wild
> things. It's all I can do to put fresh food and water in there
> without them beating themselves to death.
>
> Two weeks. I'll let them out in two weeks. And the banties will have
> their hawk alarm.
Or the Raccoons/ foxes, bear and whatever else roams will have a nice
Guinea hen dinner. Did I mention that they taste just like pheasant?
Cleaned, dressed, slathered with olive oil and basil, then slow roasted
in an aluminum foil tent in an oven with a side order of lemon and wild
rice stuffing with pecans in it?? That is if the coons don't get them
first and after you get sick of the racket they make at all hours of the
day and night..
How do I know this? Several of mine volunteered for hit and run on the
road in broad daylight in front of me one day. A neighbor hit them mid
flight and they weren't badly damaged, so I retrieved them and dressed
them out just after they breathed their last. They had volunteered to
come to dinner that night. How nice.
The other 40 or so of them wound up in the bellies of various
predators over a one year span, and several of them got chopped with the
hay by the farmer who was doing my field back then. We do our own hay
now and the death rate for my cats and birds is much lower as a result.
We don't run over birds or kitties, but my back, shoulders, knees and
the rest are pretty well done in after baling and stacking 2200 bales
off the field this season..
>
BUCKWHEAT BUCKWHEAT BUCKWHEAT..PUT-ROCK PUT-ROCK-PUT-ROCK!!! I only
miss that noise a little bit. Some nights it was beyond tolerable,
especially when they chose to roost under the eaves next to my bedroom
window..The coons would visit the deck at 3 AM and they wouldn't let up
on the noise until the whole house was alerted to that fact..
>
> Nancy
>
>
Nancy DeMarco
> Or the Raccoons/ foxes, bear and whatever else roams will have a nice
> Guinea hen dinner. Did I mention that they taste just like pheasant?
> Cleaned, dressed, slathered with olive oil and basil, then slow roasted
> in an aluminum foil tent in an oven with a side order of lemon and wild
> rice stuffing with pecans in it??
Sounds yummy!
> That is if the coons don't get them
> first and after you get sick of the racket they make at all hours of the
> day and night..
I'm hoping they'll roost in the coop at night. The darn foxes have
been getting an occasional bird. And a hawk nearly got one last week,
while I was maybe 100' away. She (the hawk) was still on the ground
when I got there - could have given her a good kick. But she was
*beautiful*, and the hen was only a little bruised.
> How do I know this? Several of mine volunteered for hit and run on the
> road in broad daylight in front of me one day. A neighbor hit them mid
> flight and they weren't badly damaged, so I retrieved them and dressed
> them out just after they breathed their last. They had volunteered to
> come to dinner that night. How nice.
So far they do seem to be much stupider than the chickens. But they
sure are alert, in a panicky way.
Any recommendations for something they'll eat? They've only been here
since last night, and they are pretty scared. I have layer pellets
and wild game bird crumbles and mashed apples (which might even
attract a few flies). I'm heading to the feed store in a little
while... So far they haven't even touched the water.
> The other 40 or so of them wound up in the bellies of various
> predators over a one year span, and several of them got chopped with the
> hay by the farmer who was doing my field back then.
Great. I thought they were supposed to be good at predator avoidance.
> We do our own hay
> now and the death rate for my cats and birds is much lower as a result.
> We don't run over birds or kitties, but my back, shoulders, knees and
> the rest are pretty well done in after baling and stacking 2200 bales
> off the field this season..
Ouch. I just got 150 yesterday, and the delivery guy wouldn't let me
help stack. He's a tad OCD and can't stand to have anyone else stack
it.
> BUCKWHEAT BUCKWHEAT BUCKWHEAT..PUT-ROCK PUT-ROCK-PUT-ROCK!!! I only
> miss that noise a little bit. Some nights it was beyond tolerable,
> especially when they chose to roost under the eaves next to my bedroom
> window..The coons would visit the deck at 3 AM and they wouldn't let up
> on the noise until the whole house was alerted to that fact..
We have nothing near the house for them to roost on. They'll be
closer to the neighbors. ;)
Nancy
Tara
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So far they do seem to be much stupider than the chickens. But they
sure are alert, in a panicky way.
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Huh. I didn't think there was anything/one stupider than a chicken.
Tara
Mary McHugh
> Any recommendations for something they'll eat?
Ticks? :)
They've only been here
> since last night, and they are pretty scared. I have layer pellets
> and wild game bird crumbles and mashed apples (which might even
> attract a few flies). I'm heading to the feed store in a little
> while... So far they haven't even touched the water.
"Our" (the neighbor's, really) guinea hen, the lone survivor of a flock
of 10, lurved cutworms and grubs from the garden. She was always
totally pissed if I were in the garden digging without her. I could
toss her grubs and she'd catch them in mid-air.
I hated them when they first arrived, the this last lone one I got
attached to. But, then the hawk found her. :(
Mary
cindi
> So far they haven't even touched the water.
I remember reading somewhere about chicken babies, I think it was, and
that they often don't know about drinking, so you're supposed to push
their little beaks in the water a few times - have you read that?
good luck with them!
cindi
Grizzly
>
> So far they do seem to be much stupider than the chickens. But they
> sure are alert, in a panicky way.
>
> Any recommendations for something they'll eat? They've only been here
> since last night,
like between 30 and 40% protein feed(cheap cat food) Ticks are a
favorite snack thats near 100% protein. They will also take cracked
corn.. No medicated feed though.
and they are pretty scared. I have layer pellets
> and wild game bird crumbles and mashed apples (which might even
> attract a few flies). I'm heading to the feed store in a little
> while... So far they haven't even touched the water.
Go ahead and stress them out a bit, snag them and dip their beaks in the
water dish. If you want you can add a couple of tablespoons of sugar to
the water the first day or two to get them to drink more.. birds like
sweet tasting things. Cats don't have receptors for sweets on their
tongues,they just taste protein peptides. Raccoons love sweets and
protein as they are omnivores. Much like we are.. I know this
because..I've owned many species of critters thus far and know what it
takes to get them to eat when I've taken over where mother nature has
failed them.. I've raised and rehabbed quite a few wild critters. Gotten
advice from vets who worked at various zoos as well as people who ran
game farms.
>
>> The other 40 or so of them wound up in the bellies of various
>> predators over a one year span, and several of them got chopped with the
>> hay by the farmer who was doing my field back then.
>
> Great. I thought they were supposed to be good at predator avoidance.
>
Not so good at that in my opinion. If they make it past six months they
usually are good until they start to lay, then the coons get that meat
and egg meal...If you want to propagate them you have to cage them in a
predator proof cage/ environ. No chicken wire as the coons will
disassemble them piecemeal through the wire and you will find their
beaks, feet and sternums..You should use fine mesh hardware cloth for
their housing.. above ground is good.. or if they can be convince to
come into the chicken house to roost and locked up you might be
sucessful..but they are flighty, and tend to hide their nests, which the
coons generally find. I have this same problem with my peahens..they are
related as are pheasants and quail.
son..
>
> Ouch. I just got 150 yesterday, and the delivery guy wouldn't let me
> help stack. He's a tad OCD and can't stand to have anyone else stack
> it.
Lucky you!
>
>dn't let up
>> on the noise until the whole house was alerted to that fact..
>
> We have nothing near the house for them to roost on. They'll be
> closer to the neighbors. ;)
I hope your neighbors have hearing protectors.. The metallic shrieking
will drive them nutz otherwis..
>
> Nancy
As for resident hawks and the occasional young bald eaglets.. I love
them, they hunt the rodents, snakes and occasionally take my ducks,
goslings, peachicks and small cats/ kittens.. I don't blame them for
this as they are just doing as nature intended. They nest in the pines
behind my barn along with great horned owls, and I enjoy watching them
through my binoculars while they are nestlings and starting to fledge.
The deer and wild turkeys here will come within 20 feet of you without
turning tail and running because for the past 10 years we've been here
nobody has shot at them or chased them. I don't allow hunting on my 32
acres and during hunting season they all come here as they know that no
shooting goes on here..animals don't naturally fear man, it is acquired
distrust because they recognize danger, have been shot at. My husband
and I generally pose them no threat and they seem to know this.. I can
drive up to them in my truck without an exhaust without them taking
flight. It's deafeningly loud and they don't run. They know the truck
and the noise. I don't feed them or leave out salt licks for them, but
they do stay here and not leave the property. I make a point to let the
troughs over run so that they have a water source in some of the
puddles. During the winter the deer jump the fences and eat hay with the
horses, and drink out of the troughs. I've seen their tracks in the snow
and verify it that way.